No shootouts in new tiebreaker


From the NHL:

Board Joins Competition Committee In Supporting The Change  

        NEW YORK (Sept. 14, 2010) — The National Hockey League’s Board of Governors today approved a By-Law revision that would use a team’s total of victories in regulation time and overtime to break ties among teams with the same number of points at the conclusion of a season. The number of shootout victories would not be included for the purposes of breaking ties in the standings, according to the new wording of By-Law 27.3(c). 

The By-Law change was proposed by the League’s 30 Club General Managers following their March meeting and was endorsed Saturday by the National Hockey League Players’ Association representatives on the Competition Committee. 

NHL By-Law 27.3 now reads as follows (with the approved revision in underlined italics): 

        At the conclusion of the regular Schedule of Championship Games the standing of the teams in each Conference shall be determined in accordance with the following priorities in the order listed: 

a)        First place in each of the three divisions seeded 1, 2 and 3. 

b)        The higher number of points earned by the Club. 

c)        The greater number of games won by the Club (excluding games won in the Shootout). 

d)        The higher number of points earned in games against each other among two or more Clubs having equal standing under priorities (b) and (c). 

e)        The greater differential between goals scored for and against by clubs having equal standing under priority (d). 


Twenty-five days until the Opener in Buffalo.

25: Alexander Karpovtsev.

25: Joe Pepitone.

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  1. Izzy Mandlebaum on


    Petr Pruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucha

    Mario Marois Rangers 1979 trip to the finals…

    John Ogrodnick

  2. I dont get it? Its like the league are admitting the shootout is just a gimmick!?
    Its still a complete contradiction though, as they are allowing the extra points to count in the total. Why not just say, we’re dropping the shootout and teams will play 5 minutes of 4-on-4 and at the end it will be a tie, 1 point each.

    They should adopt the 3 points for a win and no overtime – teams who play not to lose will be left behind by the teams earning 3 points for a victory.

  3. 25, Peter Sundstrom (Rangers), Mark Collins (Giants), Doc Rivers (Knicks), and Don Hahn of the Mets.

  4. I was in the pool! on

    At least this rule change gives teams more of an incentive to WIN in overtime rather than play Devils hockey to get to the shoot out.

  5. 25 – a pony!
    25 – Thome, Giambi, McGwire, Bonds, Andruw Jones
    25 – number of goals we’d like to see Frolov, Prospal, Dubi and Cally score this season…

  6. So the league is pretty much just going to go ahead and acknowledge the shoot is a total goof? That’s a step in the right direction at least.

  7. No they’re keeping the shootout mama. The wins will count in the standings, except when they don’t when it comes to determining tie breakers in the standings.

    Please NHL, simply revalue the point system for wins/OT&SO wins/losses/OT&SO losses and you won’t have this anymore. Make it a 3-2-0-1 points system if you insist of having OT and the shootout.

  8. heard a funny interview this morning with The King. He was on the Boomer and Carton show 660 the Fan WFAN

    normally Carton is very annoying during hockey stuff but he was funny and asked some good questions.

  9. Oy vey. I take back my yahoo from yesterday. This seems even more convoluted and ridiculous then. They’re keeping a stupid way to end a game that may or may not count depending on this that and the other. Blech!

  10. Ron Francis always wore # 10 as a Whaler and Cane…

    Amusing little side line about Francis..I recall him coming to the Whale as an 18 year old from the Soo, and Whalers top sniper was Blaine Stoughton one of the truly great scorers, rarely missing no matter the angle or the situation…only problem, he made Redden look like Spider Man when it came to skating hard. They centered Francis on a line with Stoughton, and as he recalls their initial meeting, young Ronnie came eagerly up to the vet and asked him which corner he ( Stoughton) wanted him to go into for the puck. Stoughton said that he told Francis that he, would hang out at the center ice and wait for a breakaway pass, and Ronnie would go into BOTH corners. Ronnie said “OK”, and Stoughton recalled laughingly being amazed that he did indeed, and they formed a very potent duo.
    I also recall one of the Canadian broadcasters, saying early on, that he was waiting to see how Ron Francis would handle himself in the bigs. Ronnie arrived with big credentials, and many in Canada were rooting for his
    success. And did he ever acquire it.

    Actually Whalers made some very astute drafting moves but were unable to retain the players. Too bad…they were a fun team to watch.

  11. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    good night ILB!!

    the skills competition still sucks!!!

    According to sather, semenov already has a contract… long as he makes the team. A step in the right direction for our d corps!

  12. I was going to mention Prucha … but then I decided to scratch him for no good reason.

    I thought Bonds wore 24 in honor of his godfather, Willie Mays.

    Brass Bonanza. Now I’m going to have that clanging around in my head all day. I probably told you that one time Messier came out of the Civic Center humming that song … after a loss … because it was stuck in his head.

    Good morning, Sally!

  13. Sort of like when Elaine’s dad was singing the song from Les Miserables because George kept singing the first verse?

  14. I think with that rule change, that they might as well do away with the shootout entirely. If those wins no longer matter in the grand scheme, then why bother? If it purely for entertainment value that is not a good enough reason.

  15. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    here you go folks

    I expect Marc Staal to agree to terms today with the NY Rangers.

  16. Gravey (Formerly known as jor71) on

    Master of the house.. doling out the charm, ready with a handshake and an open palm. Tells a saucy talke, loves to make a stir everyone appreciates a…

  17. We had a funny guy with us in Korea. A tailgunner. They blew his brains out all over the Pacific. There’s nothing funny about that!

  18. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    Marc Staal new contract with NY has been agreed to in principle. Last talks I heard had him signing a 5 year deal.

  19. >>…teams who play not to lose will be left behind by the
    >>teams earning 3 points for a victory.

    This is exactly what the league doesn’t want because it would do away with their “parity”. Teams would fall out of the playoff race a lot sooner and fans of those teams would quickly lose interest.

  20. Gravey (Formerly known as jor71) on

    Here is some more for you blogmama…

    Master of the house
    Doling out the charm
    Ready with a handshake
    And an open palm
    Tells a saucy tale
    Makes a little stir
    Customers appreciate a bon-viveur
    Glad to do a friend a favor
    Doesn’t cost me to be nice
    But nothing gets you nothing
    Everything has got a little price!

    Master of the house
    Keeper of the zoo
    Ready to relieve ’em
    Of a sou or two
    Watering the wine
    Making up the weight
    Pickin’ up their knick-knacks
    When they can’t see straight
    Everybody loves a landlord
    Everybody’s bosom friend
    I do whatever pleases
    Jesus! Won’t I bleed ’em in the end!

  21. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    Marc Staal has agreed to terms with NYR. Five years, $3.975M per year. Done deal.

  22. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    that is a fair amount, at least we did not over pay for him…..shows me one thing though, we overpaid for girardi!!

  23. Good job by Staal. Glad he didn’t take the bouchey Dublowsky route. That shows how much he wants to be here, and improve even more.

    Hopefully he has an even better season. I’m not expecting much offense form him as I used to be. He just needs to be consistent.

  24. Gravey

    Imagine anyone knowing the entire score of that…( a really great opera, and another one was Camelot.) We have a little performing theater here in the town of Cocoa inthe “Village section) and the performers are all amateurs who have local roots and are really very fine singers and dancers and actors. They contribute to the social life here, and it ain’t Broadway, but we enjoy it because the tix are well within reason, and you have great seats in the entire house. tbw and I go to many of their performances.

    There are teachers, bankers, attorneys and many different
    performers all volunteer, and they also reach into the local schools and get talented youngsters and give them their performing arts, opportunities to “trod the boards” as the saying goes. Saw Don Quixote last season, and it’s on tap for this season also, so well received. They did
    Shakespeare’s “Midsummer Night’s Dream”.

    If you ever get down here for a visit to the Space Coast, drop in to the Village and it’s shops…you’ll love it.

    And if you decide to spend any time, bring your ice skates and visit our HOckey complex ( Olympic size rink surface)

  25. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    this is for you orr off of twitter

    Good, smart deal on both sides, plus Staal will be in for start of training camp unlike Brandon Dubinsky a year ago; a win for Staal & #NYR

  26. Good contract for Staal. He’s worth $4 million now. He’ll be worth at least a million more in a year or two.

    But to the beat writers out there…someone PLEASE ask how the F___ the rangers are going to fit this team under the cap?

    I guess if you demote Christensen, White and Eminger, you’ve can do it. At least those are the guys I’d demote…

  27. I agree that Girardi is overpaid considering what Staal got. I think if they weren’t already so young on defense outside of the R&R boys, Girardi may not have been back.

  28. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    again from twitter

    Here’s a lock: With Staal signing, trades, waivers coming during NYR camp, which opens Friday

  29. forget the money, signing Staal to a 5 year contract was a smart move. Staal gives up two free agent years in which he probably would be worth a lot more on the open market.

  30. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    I think the d comes down to staal, mcdonut, mdz, as definites, girardi, one of xlb/semenov as probables, and then valentenko, the other xlb/semenov, eminger, gilroy, rozy/souray (still think slats wants him) for the last couple of spots.

  31. Phil,

    It certainly means one of the R&R boys are gone. Redden can be waived. I still think Rozi has some value for teams that need to hit the cap floor since his actual salary is less than his cap hit.

    Between the two if they’re playing for the Rangers, Rozi still can provide some value (not as much as his cap hit). But even with waiving Redden you still will have the issue of his cap hit on the books during the summer every year.

  32. CT – As much as I don’t like Redden and have a hearty ambivalence toward Rozsival, I think they both actually serve a purpose on the team…Redden as a 6-7 defenseman. Rozsival as a 4-5 defenseman. Their contracts are both way out of whack, with Redden’s obviously being the worse of the two. Now here’s the issue: If you remove one, who takes their place?

    Some discussion. Switching McDonagh in for Redden is the most logical option, since they both shoot lefty and it would bring the Rangers about $1.2 million beneath the cap(given that they’re $4 million over, McD makes $1.7 million and Redden makes $6.5 million). Or you can trade Rozsival(I agree he still has value), ditch one of the marginal $500,000-per players, and then shift in Eminger into the spot(they’re both righties). That brings them imperceptibly close to the cap, given that McD is sent down, Feds, Exelby and Semenov are jettisoned and all the other contract players are kept.

    Damn..there are just too many possibilities.

  33. he held out as much as he could…but made a right choice.

    how will some people deal with his “softness” for the next five years? :)

  34. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    I think he is a 98% lock, but not 100% so I put him as probable. next to the staal, mdz, and mcdonut (unless he falls apart in camp), girardi is the most of a “lock”

  35. If Gilroy got moved in a package with say Rozi and Cally or Dubi for a top line center then I’d be ok with it.

    If Gilroy gets moved and both the R&R boys stay then any small amount of goodwill that Sather has built this off-season will revert back to boiling rage.

  36. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    if he is put with a real physical player as a partner, a player that makes him more involved just by being on the ice, he will be less soft!

  37. From SNY Ranger Blog:

    EJ Hradek tweets that the salary breakdown is like this:

    Year 1: $3.1 million

    Year 2: $3.675 million

    Year 3: $3.775 million

    Year 4: $3.875 million

    Year 5: $5.45 million

    Hradek also says that there isn’t a No-Move or No-Trade clause in the contract

  38. Carp

    That break down provided by Chuck Woolery: That’s not the cap hit, correct?

    The cap hit is just the AAV of the contract, right?

  39. ANDRASCIK, Steve RW Nov 6, 1948 Sherridon, Manitoba
    BANDURA, Jeff D Feb 4, 1957 White Rock, British Columbia
    BEVERLEY, Nick D Apr 21, 1947 Toronto, Ontario
    DOIG, Jason D Jan 29, 1977 Montreal, Quebec
    DUPONT, Andre D Jul 27, 1949 Trois Rivieres, Quebec
    ERIKSSON, Anders D Jan 9, 1975 Bollnas, Sweden
    GUSAROV, Alexei D Jul 8, 1964 Moscow, Russia
    HEALEY, Paul LW Mar 20, 1975 Edmonton, Alberta
    HURAS, Larry D Jul 8, 1955 Listowel, Ontario
    KARPOVTSEV, Alexander D Apr 7, 1970 Moscow, Russia
    KING, Steven RW Jul 22, 1969 Greenwich, Rhode Island
    KURTENBACH, Orland C Sep 7, 1936 Cudworth, Saskatchewan
    LORENTZ, Jim C May 1, 1947 Waterloo, Ontario
    MAROIS, Mario D Dec 15, 1957 Ancienne Lorette, Quebec
    MCKEGNEY, Tony LW Feb 15, 1958 Montreal, Quebec
    NICOLSON, Graeme D Jan 13, 1958 North Bay, Ontario
    OGRODNICK, John LW Jun 20, 1959 Ottawa, Ontario
    PLAGER, Bob D Mar 11, 1943 Kirkland Lake, Ontario
    PRUCHA, Petr RW Sep 14, 1982 Chrudim, Czech Republic
    ROBITAILLE, Mike D Feb 12, 1948 Midland, Ontario
    SMREK, Peter D Feb 16, 1979 Martin, Slovakia
    SUNDSTROM, Peter LW Dec 14, 1961 Skelleftea, Sweden
    TATARYN, Dave G Jul 17, 1950 Sudbury, Ontario
    WALLIN, Peter

  40. Classy move by Staal. The kid isn’t married with or without children, so he has no right to ask for a NTC or NMC.

    I hate it when guys ask for that because they’re basically telling you that they’re not confident that they’ll play up to the expectations. It bugs the brash*t out of me.

    Staal is really making Dublowsky look bad. Lets see what he does after this season is over. He better not pull the same carp as last summer.

  41. It’s a pathetic move for a young player to ask for a NTC. They should have enough confidence to do their job without worrying that they wont play good enough to stick around. Hate it!

    Players with a family have an excuse. You wouldn’t want to constantly move your family around once they’re getting settled down.

  42. Mama, lol! What grown man doesn’t like Gossip Girl! XOXO !!! Althought I havent seen anything beyond season 1 at this point.

  43. did we really just sign Staal for the next 5 years for under 4 million??

    He’s worth 4 million now – In 3-5 years worth more – nice deal

  44. As a RFA, Staal really didn’t have the leverage to ask for a no-trade or no-movement clause. That is why Staal didn’t get as much as he thought he would have – especially in light of the contract that Girardi got. It is good to see that his priority is to get into camp rather than squeeze the last dollar out of the Rangers.

    An UFA, like Drury, has more bargaining power and can get a weak-livered GM like Sather to cave in to one.

  45. Orr, I wont judge ya! I just havent had the time to watch seasons 2 and 3 yet. XOXO Gossip Girl! There’s a few great ABC Family shows that might interest you…. Pretty Little Liars, Huge, and Greek.

  46. Lol, I try to stay away from those ABC Family shows.

    The only way I get into any shows like that is if they have a girl that drives me nuts. I used to hate GG for the last four years, but that Blake Lively is too much to handle, so I had to check it out. Turns out it’s not bad.

    She’s such a babe!

  47. I think its a good idea to keep most of these young players around the same ballpark in salary.

    Cally got about 500k more than Dubi for his intangibles

    Staal got about 700k more than Girardi for his intangibles

    All 4 players are very solid and should be kept together and built upon

    Depending on this year, I can see AA and Tim Kennedy being on the same pay scale since they had similar numbers to each other last season.

  48. Orr, Huge is just a fun show with a Hairspray singer and the daughter of Hasselhoff. Greek is a great show with the hottie daughter of Kelsey Grammer. And Pretty Little Liars has four hot chicks (I hope they’re all over 18. If not, my comment would be AWKWARD!) but is a great show!

  49. I am enjoying NHL 11, but waaaaaay too often people shut down before the game ends when I am winning. I don’t know why, but it makes me so over the top angry.

  50. HAHA, I coined a new phrase today at work, and everyone LOVES it here. When I get mad, or someone annoys me, and someone will ask me, “Hey, Nasty, did he just get on your nerves like he did mine?” I reply, “As far as I am concerned he gets four fingers off the chin.” Meaning I take four finger under my own chin and flick them all off of my chin at the same time. If you are Italian, or have Italian friends, or a wily Italian grandmother like I did, you know exactly what I mean.

  51. Good morning, boneheads!

    It’s 7 am on Thursday in NZ. Which means, as far as I’m concerned, the training camp starts tomorrow. Take that, Linda and JBytes! :-)

    Very good deal for Staal and the Rangers! Solid and well thought through. He wants to be here.

    LMAO at Slats already having a contract with Semenov. Did he talk to his wife first?

  52. Not that you have to be Italian to do it, but in my experience, most of the people I have seen do that motion, have been Italian.

    Man, I am just ready for some hockey.

  53. Hi ilb! How are the kiwis???

    OK, all, I need your help. A while ago I mentioned these awesome seats given to me as a gift. well now I have to pick which game I want and I’m torn!!!!

    which one: Oct v. Devils or Feb v. Philly

  54. October versus Devils. Early in the season, there’s always more hope.

    In February, we may be out of it, and then the game will not be as fun if we are out of it.

  55. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    girardi at this point to me is worth about 1.5 to 2 mil per season. He makes like half a mil less a season than staal. If you think talent and ability wise, they are about even as players then girardi is not overpaid. I think they are considerably different and staal was paid appropriately, subsequently I think girardi was very overpaid!

  56. By the way, the NZ is really beautiful..We’ve seen a few places already where “Lord of the Rings” was filmed. Moving out of Queenstown area today. Tomorrow we will be in Christchurch. I’ll let you all know what it looks like after the quake.

  57. “I am enjoying NHL 11, but waaaaaay too often people shut down before the game ends when I am winning. I don’t know why, but it makes me so over the top angry”

    Welcome to my world!

    CR, those chicks are cute, but they don’t stand out for me. They’re just random cute chicks. Besides, that show seems a little too girly for my liking.

  58. Nasty 1

    if people disconnect before game ends you still get the win. I assume you have X-sux, right?

    I like the new NHL 11 but some kids piss me off so much that i almost ready to break my PS3! They start to cycle with the puck like idiots trying to get behind the net and score on wrap-around. It drives me insane!!

  59. Kiwis are genuinely nice people. I only understand about 70% of what they say though.

    Will be driving today. God help me. How many time will I end up on the right side of the road today, what do you think?

    “You are on the wrong side of the road, you hooligans!” What movie is that from, ‘heads?

  60. “They start to cycle with the puck like idiots trying to get behind the net and score on wrap-around. It drives me insane!!”

    I can’t belive that stupid cheat is still in the game. One time I beat this kid 15-14 in OT. He scored all 14 of his goals on that wrap around. It was literally the only way he can score. And my defense is too dumb to go over on the other side of the net to help me out.

    EA bastards!

  61. CCCP,
    I am guessing that may be the some people you were referring to regarding Staal. I will deal with his softness the way I always have, I will complain about it. I think his softness is what keeps him from being a true shutdown Dman. but he is a solid Dman who the Rangers have locked up for 5 years. they could certainly do a lot worse than Staal. I am happy they locked him up with a good (for the Rangers) contract.

  62. Plenty of pics, Wicky, yes.

    By the way, on Staal. First, his brother was instrumental in Pittsburg’s SC run. And he makes $4M per year. I believe that was one of the reasons Marc signed the contract the way it is. Second, we mow have first pair of D-men making just above $7M combined. Maybe Sather is starting to get it?

  63. The onyl people locked in for the team are as follows:

    Hank – Biron

    Gabby, Frolov, Drury, Cally, Prospal.
    Staal, Girardi, Del Z

    Seriously, think about it.

    There nto changin any of the captains, so there all in the line-up and secure

    Frolov is def making the team

    Those 3 D are the onyl one assured of a spot

    And Hank & Biron is the goalie Tandem

    After these 10 players its anybody’s guess who else is making the roster on opening night

    There are 49 players coming to training camp.
    22-23 are making the roster
    10 spots are DEFINITELY gone already

    Fill in the remaing 12-13

  64. wicky, nah, that’s not it, at least I don’t think so. But I’m at a loss otherwise.

    Real, you forgot one who’s gonna make it…hee hee.

  65. Mrs woke up. Talking breakfast already. See you all later.

    “Cricodile Dundee”, wicky. Hug the wicksters, will you?

  66. Great deal for both sides. We get 1 year of UFA status and he gets a rising salary which will make him $5.45m in the final year – i’m guessing thats his starting point when negotiating his first deal as a UFA, if it all works out as we expect.

    Good day all around, 2 more days till camp!!

  67. A customer by the name of Alex Cherepanov from Krasnoyarks just called me!

    He was like “Halo ser, my name is Alex Cherepanov and i wunt to buy bateree”

    My hands started to shake! So freaking weird!

  68. Hey CCCP, did you know some guy that has 2 brothers in the NHL and plays on the blueline for the New York Rangers hockey club will be employed for 5 more years with the team?

  69. awww, i get sad thinking about alexei. he was going to be a super star, a league changer, an ovechkin or a crosby. i have no doubt of that, even though i cant ever be proved right or wrong. :cry:

  70. TheREALMikeyNJ -I agree with all of those…Hank – Biron
    Gabby, Frolov, Drury, Cally, Prospal, Staal, Girardi, Del Z…

    ..but think you need to add Prust, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Boogaard and Avery. I include Aves simply because I don’t think there’s a team out there that will trade for him(if I’m not mistaken, the Stars portion of his contract won’t follow him with a trade).

    I also think MZA will be on the opening night roster. I doubt he would have signed otherwise.

  71. I think staal has a lot of room left on his frame to add some “man muscle”. He seems like a late bloomer as far as physical maturity, like pronger was early in his career. If staal can add 20lbs of pure muscle in the next year or two then he will truely be that shut down beast we need on the blueline. Then in comes mcklraith and mcdonough ain’t so tiny. That’s a solid d corps right there. I think our color man will have a lot if thick wristed young men to salivate over.

    Awesome contract!!!!

  72. What’s really interesting in Staal contract is the way how it is structured – in opposite of this mega deals with pennies payed on the final years: total worth $19.875 mill, with a breakdown of: $3.1 million this season; $3.675 mill. in 2011-12; $3.775 mill. in 2012-13; $3.875 mill. in 2013-14; and $5.45 mill. in the final year.
    So,annual salary cap hit will be $3.975 million, and the contract does not contain a no-trade or no-move clause.

  73. I think Slats was worried the league wouldnt approve of the contract so he put the “bonus year” at the end of the contract .. ha

  74. wicky (Our D is SOFT and give Prust an A!!!!) on

    anyone have the rangers pre season schedule or know where I can find it??

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