Guest blogger: Paul (updated: Traverse City)


There has been a lot of talk this off season about the need for scoring. One of the biggest oversights has been the addition of Mats Zuccarello Aasen. Along with the New York Rangers, the Toronto Maple Leafs, Dallas Stars, Chicago Blackhawks, Colorado Avalanche, Atlanta Thrashers, Boston Bruins and Detroit Red Wings were all keeping an eye on this kid while he played for Frisk, MODO or for his country in various tournaments. Scouts were flying over to Stockholm just to convince him that their club was a perfect fit for him.

By the end of March the news had leaked. It was made official after the IIHF World Championships. The New York Rangers had won this year’s “Fabian Brunnstrom” as some people call it, signing him to a two-way ELC for 2 years at $900,000 a year plus bonuses (mandatory two-way contract). So what can we as Rangers’ fans expect from Aasen? Anders Hedberg, who is the Rangers’ head professional European scout, has some pretty high expectations for Aasen saying, “We did not recruit him because he will play on our fourth line or on our farm team, but we expect him to fit in in one of our top five.”

The scouting report on Aasen states he has fantastic technical skills, great passing ability, and is a magician who can do spectacular things with the puck. He has great vision and can man the power play point, is defensively responsible and doesn’t mind heavy traffic. He is gritty for his size and shows a lot of heart, creating scoring chances by himself, while a player like Brunnstrom would be more dependent on his environment.

Mats started out his professional career in the GET league, a Norwegian ice hockey league, playing for the Frisk Asker Tigers. During his time there he played 98 games over 4 seasons with 63 goals and 68 assists. His role started out on the 3rd line and over the next couple of seasons he was given more ice time and more responsibility. In his last campaign with Frisk he was named the Norwegian Player of the Year while his team finished first overall, winning the regular season, but losing in the finals 4 games to 2 to the Storhamar Dragons.

After losing in the finals, Mats signed a two-year contract with MODO Hockey in the Swedish Elite Leage. When he first showed up on the scene he was considered to be a 3rd or 4th liner who had potential. After some pre-season games that changed. In his first season, an ankle injury kept him sidelined for 10 to 15 games, yet he still managed to notch 40 points while playing on a line with ex-ranger Niklas Sundstrom and fellow Norwegian Per-Age Skroder. They were considered the top line in the league that year.

In his second year with MODO he continued to develop in all areas, throwing the team on his shoulders when key players fell to injury. Just as with Frisk, with great play came more ice time and more responsibility. He led all forwards in ice time averaging 22 minutes a game and at one point led the league in hits. In 55 games he scored 23 goals and had 41 helpers. This season was among his most successful. He was awarded Most Valuable Player as voted by the players.

Qualifying for the Olympics for the first time since they hosted it back in 1994, Norway was back in the spotlight. Aasen may have only had 1 goal and 2 assists but it was more his ability to play on a smaller ice surface against the “world’s best” that opened up a lot of scouts’ eyes.

Recently it was the World Championships where Rangers’ fans may have seen Aasen play. Before the tournament opened, rumors started to swirl about him signing, or reaching an agreement with the Rangers. In the 6 games Norway played he had 3 goals and 1 assist. Norway beat the Czech Republic for the first time in 70+ years and Aasen, along with his linemates, had a lot to do with it. They made it to the qualification round but ended up finishing 5th.

This all sounds great doesn’t it? With all the positives come negatives. Aasen tends to carry the puck too much at times. In the NHL he will need to adjust to carrying the puck less. Then there’s his size, and that seems to worry a lot of fans.

The jury is still out on Mats Zuccarrello Aasen, and his talent transferring from the SEL to the NHL. Some players leave the SEL with much fanfare and don’t always live up to the hype. One thing I am certain of, Mats Zuccarello Aasen is offensively gifted, has vision, and can make plays. He has the best opportunity for a top 6 role by coming to New York and I expect nothing less than that.


Evening update

I’m late, sorry, but have been out of pocket for a bit. Thanks nyrguy for the link earlier. Here is from the team:

New York, July 26, 2010 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today the preliminary roster for the 2010 Traverse City Tournament in Traverse City, Michigan. The annual prospect tournament is scheduled to begin on September 11 when the Rangers’ prospects face-off against the Columbus Blue Jackets’ prospects. This marks the fifth consecutive year that a team of Rangers prospects will be going to Traverse City for the eight-team tournament.

A group of 22 prospects will represent the Rangers next month at the annual Traverse City Prospects Tournament, which the Blueshirts won in 2007. Nineteen of the 22 members of the 2010 roster are players whose NHL rights are currently owned by the Rangers. Eleven players are Rangers draftees from the past two years, while eight others have already signed their first NHL contracts with the team.

Seventeen of the 22 players participated in the Rangers’ annual Prospect Development Camp earlier this summer. This includes 2010 draft picks Dylan McIlrath, Christian Thomas, Andrew Yogan, Jason Wilson and Randy McNaught.

Forward Evgeny Grachev, the Rangers’ 2008 third round selection, will be returning to the tournament for the third straight season. He will be joined by fellow 2008 third round draft pick, defenseman Tomas Kundratek, who was a member of the Rangers’ Traverse City team last summer. Five players from the 2009 draft class – forwards Ryan Bourque, Ethan Werek and Roman Horak, defenseman Daniel Maggio and goaltender Scott Stajcer – are also back from the 2009 team, as is defenseman Sam Klassen.

Competing in the tournament’s “Gretzky Division”, the Rangers will play round-robin games against Carolina, Columbus and Minnesota, beginning with a September 11 tilt against Columbus’ prospects. Their placement in the round-robin will determine who they face in the championship round that concludes the tournament.

2010 Traverse City Prospects Tournament


Day Date Opponent Time

Saturday Sept. 11 Rangers vs. Columbus 3:30 p.m.

Sunday Sept. 12 Rangers vs. Carolina 5:30 p.m.

Tuesday Sept. 14 Rangers vs. Minnesota 3:30 p.m.

Wednesday Sept. 15 Placement Game TBD



Player Pos. Ht. Wt. Age 2009-10 Team (League)

Ryan Bourque LW 5-9 171 19 Quebec (QMJHL)

Evgeny Grachev RW 6-4 222 20 Hartford (AHL)

Roman Horak C 6-0 171 19 Chilliwack (WHL)

Colin Martin LW 6-2 206 19 London (OHL)

Chris McKelvie RW 6-1 195 25 Bemidji State Univ. (WCHA); Hartford (AHL)

Randy McNaught RW 6-4 220 19 Saskatoon (WHL)

Brendan Shinnimin C 5-10 176 19 Tri-City (WHL)

Derek Stepan C 6-0 187 20 Univ. of Wisconsin (WCHA)

Christian Thomas RW 5-9 164 18 Oshawa (OHL)

Ethan Werek C 6-1 195 19 Kingston (OHL)

Jason Wilson LW 6-2 206 20 Owen Sound (OHL)

Andrew Yogan LW 6-3 203 18 Erie (OHL)


Lee Baldwin D 6-4 205 21 Univ. of Alaska Anchorage (WCHA)

Sam Klassen D 6-2 199 21 Saskatoon (WHL)

Tomas Kundratek D 6-2 200 20 Medicine Hat (WHL)

Daniel Maggio D 6-3 202 19 Sudbury (OHL)

Brandon Manning D 6-1 195 20 Chilliwack (WHL)

Ryan McDonagh D 6-1 222 21 Univ. of Wisconsin (WCHA)

Dylan McIlrath D 6-4 218 18 Moose Jaw (WHL)

Jyri Niemi D 6-2 208 20 Saskatoon (WHL)


Scott Stajcer G 6-3 200 19 Owen Sound (OHL)

Cameron Talbot G 6-4 205 23 Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville (CHA)

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  1. nyrangersfan on

    I agree, a lot of people do not include this guy in their vision of next season. It’ll be great if he can be a solid top 6 forward and provide offense but I won’t get my hopes up for this guy just yet. Hopefully he is given a legit shot to make it.

  2. “The jury is still out on Mats Zuccarrello Aasen, and his talent transferring from the SEL to the NHL.”…………….

  3. Great post. Love the insight to the prospects. Hey, it’s certainly worth a shot.

  4. Paul,
    Good read and I love the inclusion of the videos. You mention MZA’s size and the doubt this raises in predicting his success in the NHL but you don’t include his stats. Height, weight, age?? You also mention Brunnstrom but I have no idea who he is. Would someone fill me in?

  5. Theo Flurey, Marty St. Louis, Daniel Briere. . . .it’s noy the size of the dog in the fight.

  6. Doodie Machetto on

    Been away this weekend. Great post by Joekuh yesterday. My only gripe is that he says he was playing NHL ‘94 on Genesis when #11 got into a fight with the Penguins… but there was no fighting in NHL ‘94. This was famously documented in the movie Swingers in the attached clip:

    You must have been playing either ‘92 or ‘93. 93 was actually known as NHLPA ‘93, as the NHL did not sign off on the licensing of their team names or logos, and teams were only known by their city names. If you pay attention to the game being played in the clip, that was also NHLPA ‘93, despite their discussion about the removal of fighting.

    If you were playing NHL Hockey (aka NHL ‘92), there would have been team names and logos, but no player names, as the NHLPA did not sign off on the game. So teams had full rosters with the numbers of all the players, but no names. You also couldn’t edit lines as a result.

  7. Doodie Machetto on

    Paul, this was easily the best post of the guest blogging thus far. Kudos.

  8. Wow, great post, Paul! Thanks for the insight. I didn’t know more than half of what you mentioned about him. Thanks for the videos, too.

    We can only hope that it works out.

    DanielJ- He is listed as 5-7, 165 lbs and is 22.

    Fabian Brunnstrom was signed by Dallas a couple of years ago from Sweden with a lot of hype. He didn’t do as well as he was expected to. I believe he just signed one year deal with them for a little above the league minimum.

    Good morning, boneheads!

  9. thank god i dont go tomorrow following this guest piece up. whew!

    superb post, paul.

  10. very good post paul. it made me more of a proponent for this kid because watching those clips really showed me how he plays. i didnt even rememebr him scoring any goals in teh olympics. i probably had missed that game. i noticed the announcers saying hes norways best player, and he uses a real long stick. do you or anybody know if the length of stick he uses is legal in the nhl or is it just a regular sized one but because hes so small, it looks much bigger lol. ok whatever i dont wanna talk about stick sizes too much. cr9 might come out of his cave. but yes, great post. i was sort of down on him a bit and maybe too biased based on his size. i can just see teams sending their goons and hard hitters out against him just to deal some punishment especially if hes successful in the long till glencross or carcillo or those types try anything? if he does hold the puck too long like you say, then hes gonna get hit and hit hard!!!. he better pass it!!

  11. Hey, Daniel J.

    Mats Zuccarrello Aasen is listed at 5 ft 7 161 pounds. He is a right winger, I didn’t know much about him either until I read this. Seems hopeful, possible someone who may surprise a lot of fans this year.

    Fabian Brunnstrom was a similar story of a forward coming out of another league with a lot of hype. Dallas picked him up and he hasn’t really turned into what they were expecting. I also feel that there was more media hype around him which may have lead to his setbacks.

  12. wick- im doing good bro. hangin in there. need some hockey bad though. as the summer goes my withdrawals get worse. i wish i was back home, i’d go to the beach or the city. six flags or somethin theres just not much to do here.

    ilb- what up doc!

  13. Hey mike I’m not to sure he has to worry about carcillo, not with the boogy man in the line up. lol

  14. brunnstrom was decent his first season with the stars. we used to have the dallas stars farm team in des moines. the iowa stars they were called before the iowa chops took over(ducks farm team). i remember joel lundqvist playing here a few times. he was good too. he looks like hank alot but hes not like an identical twin. or doesnt look liek it anyway. but i think brunnstrom was only playing for dallas. i think he had 17 goals and maybe 10-11 assists. not that bad but i dont remember him being talked about at all after his first season.

  15. i dont think mza will be on a line with boogeyman. unless it gets so bad that they have to put him on the 4th line with booger and prust just to keep any guys from trying anything. i know that he may be a hard target to hit if he keeps his head up unlike AA and can maneuver out of teh way. im just hoping our team can rely on some different players than gabby this time. he and mza will be targets, and the better mza does, he becomes noticed, the more likely he becomes frodo running from the cavetroll in the mines of moria

  16. Joekuh - I made it outta Blog Training Camp! on

    LOL Doodie I apologize for getting the game wrong. Like I said, I wasn’t much of a hockey game fan until I started playing it!

    Good guest post Paul. I’d been looking on Youtube for more “Hobbit Wizard” videos, but couldn’t find any. These guest posts aren’t required to use video, are they?

  17. 1 more day till kovalchunk becomes a ufa??? ohhh holy crcillo when will it end?????? id be happy if sather signed him just so i dont have to hear anymore of this crap. just think though. if we did sign him, no matter what we would have to dump redden and rozy. so at least we get another 40 goal scorer an minus 2 bad horrible contracts. but hes probably gonna sign with jersey. after what he said and how long this is taking, i think many teams who were interested in him will not be now, and plus they dont want a guy who just signed with a team, then saying hes a devil 4 life. and having that player leave to go to a new team right after. it would make kovy look bad. cant wait till its over. forget kovy. lets go assen!!!!

  18. I would have to say that this is by far the most well informed and well written post of the guest bloggers. Job well done. I have high hopes that MZA will be a player for us. Maybe not right away, but I think he will net some goals for us this year, and probably a few of the highlight reel type.

  19. joekuh- its cool man. i played all those games growin up an i cant remember every detail from each game. i rememebr little things like when you shot the puck and it went in, the puck would change trajectory quick like there was a big magnet in the net and every puck that went in would always go for that same part of the net every time!!

  20. Leethhalloffame on

    I just want to know how they are going to fit his name on the back of his jersey.

  21. NYRanger4Life on

    Morning all. How many days until hockey and football starts again??

    Agree with the rest of the boneheads – great blog today, Paul. I’m holding out hope that he becomes the top 6 forward scouts envision…but with our luck…well, you know the drill.

    Also, just checked out (which btw has become the go to for up to the minute Ranger’s news) and it appears the Rangers are hot for Frolov. Not sure how he would work in our lineup / cap, and who would have to be traded / waived etc….

  22. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    See, all the guests posts we have had have been good. This is why I won’t do one of these things, all you wankers do such wonderful work and I would just look bad!!!!

    well done (loved the vids BTW)!!!

    morning (and to the rest of you as well)

    good deal (loved the Bugs Bunny line… appropriate with ILB)

    great video game history, loved it!

  23. Doodie Machetto on

    Joekuh, I played those games so much, it’s no coincidence that I IMMEDIATELY recognized the problem. Don’t worry about it. Fighting was still removed in ’95, but by ’96 it had returned. Now the advanced fighting systems are a point of pride for the series.

  24. Paul,
    You took guest blogging to a whole new level. Not only the best guest blog yet, but dare I say the best blog yet period. Not to slight Carp who has to do it everyday, but man. I have really enjoyed the guys making the prospects a focus of summer new. I learned so much about this guy.
    I have to give Sather credit. This is the kind of signing that the NYR need to make.

  25. If they are going after Frolov, they must not think that Grachev or Stepan are ready. Personally, I am cool with them not being ready. I am all for letting them season a bit more. I am not too sure about Frolov, but if it doesn’t cost the Rangers that much, then I am cool with it. They need goals from somewhere. Other than Gabby, they need to do scoring by committee. If they can get a bunch of guys who score around 20, that could make a big difference. Cally, Vinny, Dubi should be good for 20. Avery and Christensen will probably be good for around 15. MZA and AA will be the wildcards as for what to expect.

  26. Zuccarrello Aasen…It’s going to cost a small fortune just for the lettering alone if you want one of his jerseys.

  27. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    I still think they need to add some grit on the blueline!

    Again, nice job paul.

    Off to work, later assens!!!!

  28. Paul, you went above and beyond. Awesome post …

    I might add, good thing I was on vacation because I don’t think I have the tech expertise to have imbedded all those videos. TGIM (thank God it’s Mama).

    Good morning, Sally!

  29. i see everyone else is hearing the Frolov rumors. would like to sign Staalzy first but whatever.

  30. Doodie Machetto on

    Point is, if you are going to dole out the cash on Frolov, why didn’t you spend a little extra and get Kovalchuck instead? It makes no sense.

  31. I don’t know what to think about Aasen yet but…I do know that there is lots of space on the ice and little contact in the leagues that he’s played in.

  32. Couple things…I understand why Brunnstrom and MZA are being mentioned in the same breath, but seriously, there’s NO comparison. Brunn was touted as the ‘best undrafted player not in the NHL’ when he was picked up, which might have been the case. But at that point, he wasn’t exactly ripping up SEL. Scouts said he had all the tools to be an NHLer and had elite skill. But in his best season over there, he scored only 37 points in 54 games…he also happened to be on a pretty strong team with this year’s Swedish sensation, Gustavsson. Bottom line, there was a degree of overhyping with Brunn, which was in part because his agent was trying to get the best contract he could. In the end, he ended up with something like $2.25 million, which was mind-blowing for an undrafted untested rookie. Then he was rushed to the NHL, when he probably should have spent a year in the minors.

    MZA, on the other hand, LEAD SEL in scoring! He was third in goals and third in assists. Still, scouts weren’t really paying attention to him because of the weak SEL competition(the top goal scorer was none other than Jan Hlavac) and the combination of his size with the large ice surface. The Olympics changed all that. Now, I’m not going to freak out about the guy quite yet -he’s got a lot of adjusting to do. But he’s already well beyond where Brunnstrom was when he came to the NHL in 2008.

    Also, about his size. IMO, size isn’t a big deal as long as the player lacking it has superior vision. If you’re a small guy on the wing, it’s easy to use your speed and vision to duck checks. You’ve got to realize it’s tough for a 6’4 guy to hit a midget like MZA without taking a boarding penalty in the first place. The problem is, if a shrimp player isn’t scoring, he isn’t doing much. Now, I’ve heard that’s simply not the case with this kid. I hear he LIKES to hit.

    Greg – Bet’s on, dude. Three it is.

    Cynar – I wouldn’t mind Modano as a supporting cast-type player. And I think you’re right: He probably could help guys like Stepan and AA out. But the question is, who do you bench to ensure him a roster space? And then do you undermine Drury by bringing in a guy like Modano? Too many questions for my liking.

  33. Doodie Machetto on

    “Brunn was touted as the ‘best undrafted player not in the NHL’ when he was picked up, which might have been the case.”

    I think he was touted as the best undrafted PROSPECT, not the best undrafted player.

  34. Please say no to Frolov. Let our lower priced youth develop.

    Great post & vids about the Norwegian Hobbit. Yeah, he’s puny but he can shoot & score quickly. Plenty of great puny players in the league have killed us. He fills a desperate need & deserves a very long look to adapt & succeed because of his incredible skill. We finally have added guys to our team who will stand up for our skill guys if too many liberties are taken. This guy, while having no guaranty of absolute success at the NHL level, has a tremendous upside, plays with great enthusiasm, is not afraid to get in the dirty areas, & wow, can he snipe. I’m stoked about his chances. He has what they can’t teach & appears to play with great heart & effort.

  35. ilb, Scott a and Mike in ia…

    Thanks for the info. Hopefully, the kid turns into something. Looks like he could be an exciting player. It would be great to have a player who doesn’t need to be encouraged to go to the net and shoot the puck!

    I propose just putting MZA on his jersey.

  36. On second thought, I’d like to see this on the back of his jersey… “He shoots. He scores!” … it’s still shorter than his full name.

  37. “How many games until Orr starts calling him Suckarello-Assen?”

    I wont call him names, because unlike every NYR fan, I’m not expecting anything from this kid.

    Everyone is ready to call him Gabby’s wingman, but I’m not buying any of the hype until he plays a month or two.

    And I have no expectations for him. I’ll call him Suckarello if he plays like a poos.

  38. Coach Beeblebrox on

    FWIW – MZA did weigh in last season at 178 pounds. So he has put on some weight since his 161 pound rookie days. So in reality he is not that much smaller than Fleury who was around 5-6/185, or St. Louis who is around 175-180. Pat Kane was 167 pounds his rookie year. So Aaesen might not be so small where he cannot get it done.

  39. Dde- lmao @ Afinogenov’s name interpretation! Was great.

    They need to be careful not to overpay for Frolov. But at 28, with good size, he can make them more competitive. He made $4M last season.

  40. According to SNYRblog, NYR are talking to Ponikarovski’s agent.

    Frolov, Poni, Modano, ugh!

    By the way, I’m not buying that whole carp aboot “not signing him to play in the 4th line, or the Wolf Pack”

    These guys are such liars. Why did they give him a 2 way deal if there was no way he’s playing on the Pack? They’ll do anything to sign someone. Nobody expected Artie to be on the 4th line, some of us thought he could even end up on the first line, which he did on some nights.

  41. Hey, “guest bloggers schmuck”, we don’t poke eyes out, we just mail people their shineboxes. I thought you had one a few days ago.

  42. ORR- two way deal was obligatory signing in his case. The agreement between NHL and IIHF is such that any player from Europe below 23 years of age must sign a two way deal with NHL.

  43. OFF TOPIC:

    Is anyone looking for a job? Or maybe you know someone who is?

    A car repair mechanic is needed for a full time position in Brooklyn. Must have own tools. Family owned car repair shop and gas station.

    Email me for details please!

  44. Coach Beeblebrox on

    Frolov looks like Kotalik Part Deux! Or Higgins Part Doh! Whichever your prefer. Just another guy who will be asked to regain a former (and seemingly lost) scoring touch in order to make the Rangers better. This formula has pretty much always failed the Rangers. The question is, do they pay the 6-4/220 Frolov, $3 million or more a year for the 15-19 goals he might score, or do they throw the 6-4/230 pound Grachev into the same role for $850,000, and hope for 12-16 goal from the kid?

    It becomes a question of good economics and your investment in the future. Sather always fails in this area, always. So getting Frolov would be exactly his MO.

  45. Tank The Season on

    Frolov is a player whose stats have went down in each of the past 4 seasons. There’s a place for players like that. It’s called the KHL.

    Don’t want Poni either. Ask any Leafs fan how they feel about him.

  46. Yanno how bad it is .. I’m watching ..devils – carolina game 3 playoff game. Terrible .. Signing off now — afiniaganhovinganov.

  47. Doodie Machetto on

    Orr, they DIDN’T sign him to play in the 4th line or in Hartford, but if that’s all he’s capable of, that’s where he’ll end up. I really think they hope that this guy can deliver. Maybe the thinking is if you play him with Gaborik, Gaborik will draw enough coverage to open up space for MZA to operate.

    If not, what’s the worst that happens? He lights up the AHL?

  48. Nicely done, Paul! And I’m not saying that to be polite.

    Cwgatti: Theo Fleury and Martin St. Louis immediately came to mind also as I read Paul’s post.

  49. DarrenDreger -tweet-

    NHLPA just filed grievance on Kovalchuk contract rejection

  50. CCCP, hmmm. don’t recall being asked, but no prob :)

    As Carp would say, to our friend above, thanks for helping with our numbers.

  51. From the NHLPA site:

    The National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) released the following statement today:

    “The NHLPA has filed a grievance disputing the NHL’s rejection of the Standard Player Contract between the New Jersey Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk. Under the terms of the CBA, the NHLPA and Mr. Kovalchuk are entitled to an expedited resolution of this matter. The NHLPA will have no further comment until this matter has been resolved by an Arbitrator.”

  52. Tank The Season on

    Now they will spend the next 2 months fighting over who the “system arbitrator” will be.


  53. Nice post. But amusing how Jagr was scoring goals as well, yet he’s considered too old. It remains to be seen how the young Norwegian does — highlight reels can certainly show potential, but are not really evidence of success. Look at Zherdev’s highlight tapes, for example.

  54. That’s what I’m saying, Doodie. It’s not like he’s automatically going to end up in the top six in the first game of the season.

    I’m already sick of hearing aboot the kid. Like I’ve said plenty of times, if this kid doesn’t turn out to be what everyone thinks he’ll be, a lot of people here will probably be depressed.

  55. The expectations people have for this kid are ridiculous. If you watch his highlight reels from the SEL, MZA gets time, space and respect from defenseman that he absolutely won’t get in the NHL. I’m not saying he doesn’t have great hands, but on half of those goals he floats right up the middle and scores. If he does that on a smaller ice surface against much larger, stronger and faster players, he’s going to get creamed. The fact that he went undrafted also says something: that taking a player that small, no matter how much skill he has, is a risk that has a good chance of not paying off.

  56. Doodie Machetto on

    Sorry, misread. Once appointed, arbitrator makes decision within 48 hours.

  57. if we sign Ponikorovsky then i guess they haven’t learned our lesson over the past 15 years. Frolov at least is a 2 time 30 goal scorer so at least him i can understand. Ponikarovsky is just a waste.

    I would rather them not sign Frolov either but a line of Frolov-Prospal-Gaborik is pretty good. I would rather they fill that spot internally though but then again Dolan wants a big player so Sather but oblige…

  58. Coach Beeblebrox on

    RE: MZA

    What are people expecting of MZA? I keep reading here how people are going to be so disappointed, but I’ve yet to read a single person say “oh man this kid will light up NHL goalies for 40 goals”. I see nothing of the sort.

    Comparisons to Fleury, Kane etc. are done to show small size can succeed. I don’t think anyone expects MZA to be the next Kane. LOL. I certainly don’t.

    I think realistically, the best we can hope for is a 20-25 goal guy who might score 50 points. That’s about the best we can hope for.

    Worst case MZA stays in the AHL for two years and goes back to Europe a failure to make the NHL. No harm no foul.

    Wanting 20+ goals out of Higgins and Kotalik was a lot more damaging. Because they were supposed to be two of the top 9 forwards. MZA is a total wildcard.

  59. From what I read, the process of selecting an arbitrator may take weeks. Both NHLPA and NHL has to agree on that person since there is none in place.

  60. Orr-

    Regardless of the level of competition you’d have to admit MZA’s fun to watch, no?
    As a Rangers fan, if you can’t have hope -what is there?

    Don’t paint yourself in a corner regarding your opinion of the kid. Next thing you’ll feel like you ‘have’ to call him Suckarello-Assen.

  61. let’s hope he is another Marty St Louis. if he is then he will be called MZ Awesome

  62. if he is a bust, then I will blame Hedberg for this one. this is his boy. this one is on him. I hope he makes it, but if not, I won’t blame Sather on this one as much as Hedberg

  63. “let’s hope he is another Marty St Louis. if he is then he will be called MZ Awesome”

    I’d settle for hoping he’s a Brian Gionta.

    Dd, anyone who competes with 100% and has a heart the size of Barry Bonds head will be fun to watch. I wont deny that.

    All you can do with this kid is hope. Nothing he’s done in any other league proves he’ll be more or less than a 10 goal scorer in the NHL, the best fuggin hockey league in the world.

    I hope none of the NYR prospects read this blog, or else they’re probably going to bully him in training camp, hahaha.

  64. Gionta is a completely different style player. he is more of a sniper who sets up in the slot and waits for passes and one times the puck

    this kid is apparently more of a puck carrier

  65. Joekuh - I made it outta Blog Training Camp! on

    I just realized somethin about MZA’s highlight tapes: never saw him shoot backhand before.

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    I’ll say this from what I saw on the highlight reels: he has a quick release and can shoot well off of the pass. I know these reels can make a lot guys look like superstars, but you either have a quick release or you don’t, and he does.

  67. Coach Beeblebrox on


    Also take a look at his stick. My friend pointed it out to me one day, he said “look at how long that stick is” and it is ridiculous. MZA must use a stick made for a guy who is 6’3″.

    What this does to his shot, is something very tricky for goalies to pick up. It makes the angle way off compared to his body, and it gives him a lot of extra reach a guy who is 5’6″ would not otherwise have. His hands are so close together its very hard for goalies and defenders to be at the right angle to stop him. You can close off his body and he still has the reach to change the angle.

  68. one trick poni on

    Poni is a phony. he couldn’t score with 2 of the top centers in the league. so he is a complete flop.

  69. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    on lunch, not sure how legit this is, but:

    Frolov to Rangers extremely close to being done, sources claiming in process of being finalized now

    just off of twitter

  70. Blue Seat Horror on

    Great Post Paul!

    A few things I’ve noticed from the MZA videos.

    1. Wasn’t he on a line with Forsberg and Markus Naslund last season? That’s like a skating/passing trifecta. Easy to get space with those skills. Just sayin’.

    2. Good to see him chasing the puck into the corners, even though someone twice his size is right behind him. Looks like he has alot of heart.

    3. Not only is the ice surface monumentally larger in the SEL, but holy carcillo those penalty boxes are absolutely luxurious compared to the NHL.

  71. Blue Seat Horror on

    If signing Frolov facilitates getting rid of R1 or R2 I’m all for it.

  72. Coach – just seeing that long-ass stick reminds me of another midget that played with the Rangers…guy named Corey Locke…but you’re right…just watching some of those goals it seems like he catches goaltenders looking…combo of quick release and deceptive shooting technique.

    So you guys think the Kovalsaga could go on for another ‘couple of weeks’?!? Please no…I just want the bum to sign somewhere so I can at least have the rest of August to not here his goddamn name in the news.

  73. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    latest tweet:

    Okay so on frolov, He hasn’t officially signed a deal, rangers have given an offer, he’s looking for final bids from other teams

  74. Doodie Machetto on

    Is Frolov really that much better than Zherdev? If this deal goes down, Sather will have officialy blown it.

  75. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    who the hell knows what slatipuss is up to!

    later assens, back to work!!

  76. Has anyone watched enough LAK games to give more insight on Frolov?

    Phil- since there is no arbitrator in place, it may take 2-3 weeks to choose one since both NHL and NHLPA have to agree. After that, the arbitrator has to come up with the decision 48 hrs after the hearing.

    On MZA- that long stick doesn’t prevent him from handling it very well- see one on one and shootouts.

  77. Frolov is better than Zherdev. Frolov has 2 30 goal seasons and doesn’t have the attitude problems that Zherdev has.

    his dropoff in goals last season worries me but it could be a result of not being the featured guy on the PP. Eeports say the contract offered is 2 years at something less than 4 mil. At that price, 20-25 goals 35-40 assists is pretty good.

  78. how do young players get a spot if he keeps adding high-salary vets?

    i see higgins and kotalik every time i read this stuff

  79. disagree on the attitude. Frolov was benched last season by Murray for lack of intensity. he is not a disrupter, but he is an enigma. he will disappear effort-wise at times and have no explanantion for it, and will not speak about it either. he is hard to figure.

    talent, yes, but not a fast skater or tough guy either.

  80. The Rangers are around $9.7M under the summer cap at the moment. It’ll take around half of that to sign Staal. Therefore, any significant signing will require some salary to be moved.

  81. ilb

    i watch a lot of kings games from the center ice package. frolov is an enigma. he his slightly better then zherdev. at 2.75 or below i would sign him for one yr.

    if he comes one less forward spot for a kid.

    again mcdonagh and mza mark my words only young players who may get a shot. this team FREAKING SUCKS

  82. kings view- thanks. Unfortunately, that means that Sather is probably offering $5.5M per as we speak.

  83. Doodie Machetto on

    I’ve actually heard Frolov has attitude problems, just like Zherdev.

    Yes, Frolov has two 30 goal seasons, but both came with Anze Kopitar feeding him the puck. Last year, once he was removed from Kopitar’s wing, the production disappeared.

    Who has Zherdev had to pass to him? Washed up Peca or Federov? Manny Malhotra? A half season of Scott Gomez?

  84. the kings need scoring , and it says plenty that they are not frantic to re-sign Frolov

  85. Doodie Machetto on

    wlm, I agree it sends a message, but at the same time, they were big players for Kovalchuk and hopeful with Gagne. I’ve actually seen them mentioned pretty frequently with Frolov ever since Kovalchuk signed and Gagne was traded.

    I don’t think anyone can begrudge Frolov for being a third option behind those two guys.

  86. I have actually seen similar tidbits over the internet of Kings starting to talk to Frolov after those two were gone.

  87. kuklaskorner?: RT @Jay_Gold_: Agent: Alex Frolov has decided to sign with the New York Rangers. He seriously considered the KHL. (Soviesky Sport)

  88. re: Traverse City

    Looks as though Evgeny “Battleship” Grachev will be playing on the right side.

    looking at this line-up compared to what other teams put on the ice last year…they should win the tournament.

  89. Well Slats just got us a useless 20 goals.

    I guess he doesn’t have much confidence in our prospects since he’s so quick to re-sign a nobody like Christensen, and a guy like Frolov who we’ve seen countless times before.

  90. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's get the season started!!! " … says Greg L. on



    We might wanna start calling you “PUMP US UP PAUL!!!! Great little tidbit on MZA , wev’e been urning for it!!!! The guest post keep getting better and im feeling a little nervous for Cr9. Way to set the bar high Paul , Im impressed.


    Phil , bets on!!! Once Boogy hits 3 goals , I win…sweeet!!!


    Doodie , very well done on the NHLPA information. You are correct. I remember playing with Messier on NY but The NHL didn’t liecence it. I can’t believe ya remeber that.

  91. Massachusetts

    Fenway Park
    Boston Red Sox
    Vendors with critical violations: 4%

    Inspection report excerpt: Inspectors found raw steak that had warmed to almost 60 degrees, which was above safe temperatures.

    Gillette Stadium
    New England Patriots
    Vendors with critical violations: 0%

    Inspection report excerpt: No critical or major violations.

    TD Garden
    Boston Celtics, Boston Bruins
    Vendors with critical violations: 21%

    Inspection report excerpt: Storing dishwashing chemicals on top of an ice machine resulted in a critical violation for one location.


    Giants Stadium
    New York Giants, New York Jets (former)
    Vendors with critical violations: 20%

    Inspection report excerpt: Managers tossed 20 pounds of ground beef after inspectors cited them for letting partially grilled burgers with raw centers sit at unsafe temperatures for three hours before final cooking.

    New York

    Citi Field
    New York Mets
    Vendors with critical violations: 45%

    Inspection report excerpt: Inspectors found 20 pounds of grilled chicken registered at 70 degrees in a refrigerator, about 30 degrees warmer than allowed.

    Madison Square Garden
    New York Knicks, New York Rangers
    Vendors with critical violations: 61%

    Inspection report excerpt: At one stand, inspectors found “53 mouse excreta” (38 on top of a metal box underneath the cash registers in the front food-prep/service area and 15 on top of a carbonated-beverage dispensing unit).

    Yankee Stadium
    New York Yankees
    Vendors with critical violations: 48%

    Inspection report excerpt: Five hot dogs registered 91 degrees in a hot-holding unit when they were supposed to be no cooler than 140. Inspectors also had a vendor dump a bottle of Chivas Regal whiskey containing dead fruit flies.

    From I think it’s pretty obvious that the inspectors were Boston fans!

  92. Doodie Machetto on

    Orr, I understand the difficult situation Sather is in. Our prospects are probably not legitimately NHL ready. Sure, we could throw them all out on the ice and have them take their lumps like the Islanders have, but Sather has a mandate to try and make the playoffs. I don’t think a year in the AHL kills Stepan, Grachev probably needs another year to improve at the pro game, and all of the other forward prospects don’t project as superstars, but just solid NHLers. I’m not crushed by this unless the deal is more than 2 years.

  93. Doodie Machetto on

    Then I’m OK with it. I’d rather the team take the lumps, get a high draft pick, and give some prospects NHL time, but I know that Dolan wants the team to compete every year, so one year isn’t the worst thing in the world.

    If we suck this year, maybe we can deal him at the deadline.

  94. as long as it is a 1 year deal i could care less how much money it is. If Redden is getting waived that means for this season we have more cap space than we could possibly need.

    1 year 3 mil and 1 year 5.5 mil really is the same thing in the long run…

  95. For 1 year no problem. Could be a high reward type of guy who seems like he has a chip on his shoulder now to prove the type of player he is. Becomes the 2nd most talented forward on our team.

  96. bull dog line on

    just took a look at Frolov’s stats. he has a 35 goal season, and a 32 goal season, and i believe he is a plus 25 for his career(meaningless stat I know). he seems to worth a shot to me.

  97. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Boogaard on the PP??!!! " … says Greg L. on

    If Boogaard scores I win cash!!!!

    ORR owes me $20 if Boogaard scores 5 or more this year.

    LW3H owes me $10 if Boogaard scores 5 or more this year.

    Cr9 owes me $20 if Boogaard scored 1 or more this year.

    Phil owes me $10 if Boogaard scores 3 or more this year.

    Playoffs included in all bets.

    Let’s get this party Started!!!!!!!!!!


  98. bull dog line on

    also Andrew Gross said he was choosing between a 4 year offer in the KHL, and the Ranger offer, believed to be a 2 year offer.

  99. CR9

    i would never eat stadium food. Why would i get food at the Garden, when i can get food before and after the game for the same price…

  100. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Boogaard on the PP??!!! " … says Greg L. on

    Doodie …$1000 – 1 odds?

    Alex Frolov a Ranger? Very Euro . Ilb , I ‘ll take anutha stab at it…Yurnin..yerning? Geeze thank goodness I ditched that chance to be on ” Are you smarter then a 5th grader”

  101. Wait a minute, Greg. You never mentioned playoffs.

    Ah, who am I kidding? As if that’ll make any difference…

  102. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Boogaard on the PP??!!! " … says Greg L. on

    Thats funny LW3H , maybe there is no playoffs? If Prust is with Boogaard , I can see some goals going in …

    1)Tip in from infront of the net.
    2)on a 2 on 1
    3)dirty rebound
    4)dirty rebound
    5)Weak slapshot from the side
    6)a beuty pass from GABORIK!!!!

    ChA cHa ChInG!!!

  103. From Sovetskiy Sport

    Did “Los Angeles” wish to keep Frolov? He has played seven seasons for this team.

    Frolov’s Agent – “Kings” have again begun slow negotiations with Alexander. I think that “Los Angeles” main focus is on signing Kovalchuk. The chance is great that Ilja becomes UFA again. Also it turned out that Frolov’s destiny in “Los Angeles” depended on someone else (Kovalchuk). And it is unpleasant.


    Especially “kings” openly spoilt last season for Alexander rigidly criticising him, demoting him from the first line to the third, or sratching him. A player cannot show a good game like this.

    Frolov’s Agent – Dont you know, how NHL treats people? If the player is playing in the last year of the contract, they want to impair a season so that in the future, the player wont able to sign for big money. That is what happened to Frolov.

  104. if frolov signs here maybe we trade dubinsky. maybe. that would be great news

  105. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Boogaard on the PP??!!! " … says Greg L. on

    Dubinsky is gritty ,fast ,creative,smart ,durable,teach-able, young ,aggresive,vocal and is perty good dangler.

    Why would you trade good home-grown for fake primo?

  106. Frolov had his best years in an offensive-minded system under Crawford. His stats took a beating under Terry Murray. In the last 2 years…the Kings system drifted to the defensive side. Mainly limiting shots on goal and taking care of business in their own end. In Murray’s first year as coach of the Kings…I believe they were giving up an astronomical amount of shots per game. Goalies were taking a beating on a nightly basis. The Kings have addressed that issue head-on the last 2 years.

  107. Hey all….nyrguy, thanks for the link earlier. I’ve been out of pocket for a a bit (and this is even close to being my “real” job!). For those who missed, Traverse City update above.

    For Greg, urning is yearning :)

    speaking of yer…..hey yergs, you blogging on Friday??? Still waiting to hear from you…

  108. The nose picker needs to be traded to an Islander blog. She’s becoming seriously redundant, and quite predictable. enough already.

  109. nose picker that’snot right. you’re just green with envy now that Booger is a Ranger

  110. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Boogaard on the PP??!!! " … says Greg L. on

    The Rangers have played 6147 games including the playoffs . Thats alot of games starting from 1926 !!!

    We have won a whopping 2,637 games!!! Losing 2,619 !!! and um…816 Ties . So we are actually over 500 , playing as long as we have.

    We win more than we lose thus is why we never get a #1 draft pick . I’d rather win and keep our record over 500 . I do not wanna sacrifice this teams history just for a lotto chance at a high end pick!!?? NO WAY!! Our next few regular season win are gonna be needed to keep this run from becoming a disaster and dropping below 500 over all of all time.

  111. blaze – but its ok for others to pick on different players and management types. you are the definition of hypocrite

    trade dubinsky now with frolov coming on the scene. no better time to do so

  112. greg what about overtime losses where do they fit in. the record is below 500 my friend.

  113. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Boogaard on the PP??!!! " … says Greg L. on

    Im perty sure the OT losses are stated as a tie.

    We are 18 games over 500 over all of all time.

  114. Frolov has hardly played with Kopitar for those who were talking about that before…

    Frolov played a bunch with Avery in 06-07… when he scored his career high 71 points… But his best linemates in career were Mike Cammalleri and Patrick O’Sullivan… all three players had their best seasons playing together in 07-08….

    I think Frolov with Gaborik could be sick!!


  115. Revelation: nose picker is really Sally in disguise, but doesn’t want to admit that she’s changed her mind. That must be it! (Sally, I kid….:)

    Sigh, move on….

    has Kovalpaychuk signed for $1 billion for 30 years somewhere yet?

  116. Blue Seat Horror on

    Alright, so if they sign Frolov to a 1 yr deal, that will mean that Frolov, Prospal, Donnie Brashco, Eminger, and Boyle will all be free agents at year’s end (These being players they may not want to resign).

    Callahan, Dubinsky, Gilroy, and Anisimov will be RFAs at season’s end (Players I’d like to see resigned with an asterik on Gilroy based on this season).

    If it means giving untested prospects one more full year in Hartford, I wouldn’t be broken up about it.

  117. I think any combination of this would be the favorite to start going into camp.

    Alexander Frolov ($4.500m) / Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
    Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
    Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
    Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
    Donald Brashear ($1.400m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m) / Dale Weise ($0.700m)

    Marc Staal ($4.250m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
    Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m) / Michal Rozsival ($5.000m)
    Matt Gilroy ($1.750m) / Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m)
    Steve Eminger ($1.125m)

    Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,371,667; BONUSES: $2,667,500
    CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $695,833

  118. Greg – You do know these bets go both ways right? I mean, if Boo gets only one goal, you’re gonna be paying out like a cash machine at happy hour…

  119. As long as it’s no more than 2 year deal, it’s a good signing.

    Kyle Calder? I thought they had enough experience in Hartford already.

  120. According to tsn, frolov’s agent said It will be a one year deal like his other client afiniginov had last year. Affiniginov was paid $800,000 last year. If sather just signed frolov for $800k for one year then I would amazed. What do u all think is a reasonable 1 year contract for frolov? I’m thinking lowball would be $2.5 and highest I would go would b 3.25 so 800k would be ridiculous for possible top line winger.

  121. Montreal fansbelieve it will be a one year deal because frolov is waiting for montreal to have cap space so he can play with cammalari again. Makes sense, hopefully he has a killer year for us first.

  122. Fugg that! If that’s true then let him go fugg himself!

    Sign players that *WANT* to play for NYR.

    That’s BS though. Habs fans are just idiots. But, I’m just making a point. Sign players that want to play and win here.

    Like Calder ;)

  123. Frolov will sign for 2-3 million. There is NO WAY he signs or less than that.

    Afinoganov was used as an example because he was another client of that specific agent, Not a comparison of money

  124. The Rangers can afford to give him basically any 1 year deal worth 5 mil or less. I think 1 year 4 mil is what we will see.

  125. oleo, it’s not you. As I’ve said a zillion times, sports salaries are just a burr under my saddle, and seeing it broken down that way….there are just so many awful disparities…don’t want to go into a whole rant player by player (though some are obvious!)just let your info speak for itself.

    However, we’re talking Frolov for 1 year, just one, at maybe 2.5 to 3 mil???? Hey, it’s just my opinion…but geez!

    afiniginov…say it 10 ten times fast. You know you can’t.

  126. ilb…love the theme music on that video :) what are they singing?

    hey, I’ll give you this…with MZA and Frolov, the Rangers cute factor remains well over the bar, even if Shelley were with us :)

  127. I think that if signing a 1 year deal it will be closer to 4 mil per…have to pay a premium, but worth it to have the flexibility YOY.

    does anyone know if we send redden down to hartford, does his cap hit come back in the offseason for our “summer cap”

  128. hey, I’ll give you this…with MZA and Frolov, the Rangers cute factor remains well over the bar, even if Shelley were with us :)

    Did someone mention the cute factor. If you all would like, I will rank all the NHL teams in terms of cuteness/hotness.


  129. I think if Redden is sent down this year and spends the whole year down there. He doesnt count towards the cap ever again as long as they send him down there every summer.

    Like Rissmiller, spent the whole year in the AHL, had to be demoted again but we didnt have to wait til September for the Cap hit to clear.

  130. side show sean on

    blogmama – what do you think of averys real salary of 4 million. i think that is well beyond what he is worth

    fly — i think all nhl salaries count during summer unless the guy has 2 way deal like most young guys do

  131. My roommate never shut up about how ugly the Panthers were a few years ago with Horton and Olli on the same team.

    Kennedy, Crosby, and Malkin make a pretty butt-ugly squad – A pig, a horse, and a ogre

  132. Olga Folkyerself on

    Frolov made $4 Mil last year. don’t expect it to go down. That’s one less Yute in the line-up come opening night.

  133. Im shocked, no takers. Well, needless to say, but I’ll say it anyway, the Rangers top the list with Henrik ‘Qvist! :)

  134. I see the lineup shakin out like this:

    Vaclav Prospal ($2.100m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
    Alexander Frolov ($3.000m) / Artem Anisimov ($0.821m) / Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m)
    Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($1.850m) / Ryan Callahan ($2.300m)
    Derek Boogaard ($1.625m) / Chris Drury ($7.050m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
    Dale Weise ($0.700m) / Brian Boyle ($0.525m) / Donald Brashear ($1.400m)

    Daniel Girardi ($3.325m) / Marc Staal ($4.000m)
    Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
    Michal Rozsival ($5.000m) / Steve Eminger ($1.125m)
    Matt Gilroy ($1.750m)

    Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) /Martin Biron ($0.875m)

    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)

    SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,621,667; BONUSES: $2,667,500

    *CAP SPACE (24-man roster including Brashear): $2,445,833*

  135. Olga Folkyerself on

    MSG+ showing Rangers-Ottawa ’09 home opener.

    Dubinsky just scored. Trade him.

  136. Who knows, maybe signing Frolov lights a fire under a guy like Stepan’s ass during training camp, and he forces Slats to get rid of Christensen or Boyle.

    I don’t care, as long as Dredden is in Hartford teaching Byers, and Dupont how to snort cocaine and tape up your sticks at the same time.

  137. side show…good question, and obviously fraught for mama, given her bias against many sports salaries and her, um, thoughts for Aves…

    But you asked so….yes, his money is still split so it doesn’t hurt us capwise, yet he’s still making a lot more. and it’s the total at issue you raise.

    I think it’s fair. Sorry Aves haters, but I do. Compared to what others make, and what he brings to our team, relatively speaking I have no argument with his deal.
    There, I said it. Bash away if you will….

  138. Olga Folkyerself on

    You might as well drop Brashear from the list. He is nothing but a bad memory in NY.

    Isn’t 24 too many players?

  139. According to the CBA, any player on one way contract counts against the cap, regardless where they were playing the previous year.

  140. Thats a pretty good lineup AND it still features 3 rookies.

    I think that is a perfect example of consistently building with youth, while resigning your own players and plugging in the necessary UFA”s to be competitive

  141. Olga Folkyerself on

    I’m not sure that roster is “competitive”. It has ninth place written all over it.

  142. somerset-don’t forget that if any of possible candidates (Grachev, Stepan etc.) show they are ready, EC and Boyle can be sent down. Signing of the 28 year old Frolov doesn’t interfere with anyone’s development. And it makes the team more competitive. I don’t mind the signing at all. But I’d like to see the terms of that deal before judging it.

  143. Olga Folkyerself on

    I was using Sather’s average as Rangers GM. Not good enough, and not bad enough…

  144. ilb, je sais, je sais…merde!

    side show, see you and raise you: a good man is hard to find


  145. leetchhalloffame on

    What’s with the trade Dubinsky nonsense. I know he hasn’t quite lived up to expectations yet, but he’s still very young and one of the few Rangers to willingly play with reckless abandon. Don’t you think he still has some upside?

  146. Olga Folkyerself on

    leetchhalloffame- It’s all sarcasm on my part. I like Dubinsky.

    Nosepicker has been at it so long, that his head has collapsed.

  147. leetchhalloffame- no one is trading Dubinsky. Just because one of the blog visitors has tics, it doesn’t mean it is going to happen.

  148. somerset
    “– A pig, a horse, and a ogre”
    I just felt down from my chair, so wright…ha-ha.

  149. Gift of GAB-orik ( Kovalchuk is the new Favre ) on

    Anyone else think that the Traverse city team could beat the current roster in a scrimmage??

    It’s funny because it’s possible.

  150. i will lmfao if he is traded. the crying here would be worth the price of admission

  151. Honestly, I like Dubinsky and dont want to see him traded but I could absolutely see him traded to a cost-cutting team like Dallas for Ribero

    I could see a Gilroy and Dubinsky for Ribero trade happening

  152. Olga
    “With all honesty”.(by DM), I believe you and nose… are in the same old repeated, obsessed category – you with Slats, he with Dublo. If anyone would care to count “fire Sather” you would definitely be ahead by far. However for fairness – picker is just plainly much more obnoxious. Your posts at least have plenty of real hockey substance.

  153. Olga Folkyerself on

    No one is saying Dubi is untouchable. Anyone can be traded. IF the right deal came along, then so be it. But, Sather rarely makes the “right deal” and Nose Picker never suggests who to trade Dubi for- he just wants him gone…

    As for “FIRE SATHER” he has proven his ineptitude, and yes, I just want him gone.

  154. I’m calling Frolov signs for 2.5 Million !!!!

    Although, his salary was 4 million last year – his Cap Hit was only 2.9 million – His agent said he is being paid under value …. 2.5 Million seems right

  155. Just like last year with Vinny Prospal, I think we get the steal of summer again this year

  156. Hey all,

    Mama, that wasn’t me that gave you that link, don’t want to take credit away from anyone. Unless it was someone else using the same name!

    Sorry I haven’t been posting as much, been busy with the new job and the nice weather and all. I’ll try to pop in more often to post. But yeah, def wasn’t me with that link haha.

  157. Olga Folkyerself on

    Frolov made 4 mil last year, I don’t think he’d take a big cut to 2.5 mil. Frolov was also negotiating with KHL, who spends pretty well and is tax free, so NHL has to overpay to be even with them, and Lastly, Sather (yes, Sather again) always overpays for UFA’s at the expense of his own RFA’s. So I’m thinking it’s still going to be close to $4 mil.

    Then he will lowball Staal.

  158. SIDE NOTE: Minnesota is beating Kansas City 19-0 right now in the 8th inning ….. those fans need a Hockey team to root for

  159. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    watch your mouth!!!!!

    It still would not shock me to see a trade of a roster forward and d man or two.

    Are we talking to frolov about signing him or something??

  160. Zherdev tried to hardball, no one wanted him, he went to Russia, came back with his tail between his legs and took a 2 million dollar offer from the Flyers

    Frolov knows this, he also knows that it’s July 26th and no one has been knocking down his door except us. Everyone knows he doesnt want to play in the KHL because he would have signed there already just like Nabakov did.

    How long was Nabokov a UFA ??? a week or so, then he jumped ship.

    2.9 Cap Hit last year – 2.5 Cap Hit this year

  161. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    latest from twitter

    Source: “Frolov signing to be made official tomorrow.” 1 year deal at upwards of $3 million is what I am being told.

  162. IMO, if Slats will sign Frodo for 2-3 mil. 1-2 years, it will be very solid, good move. Everything we know about this guy he had a strokes of brilliance in his play as well as inconsistence. Going first time to another team, he has a lot to prove in this league, considering bullcrap with his former coach, stupid agent and temptation of bigger money in KHL. Having Avery is a plus – helps his adaptation, I read they had a good time and fun back in LA. Torts is a different story, may go both ways, but he is mature player and have to be prepared for Torts demanding style and show max. every night, which is good.

  163. I heard on the HF boards from a Kings fan that he went thru a divorce last year as well causing his play to obviously dip

    Steal of the Summer !!!!

  164. The White Plains Batman on

    A one year deal for Frolov is great. Takes less pressure of the kids. Hopefully it doesn’t force Weise to start the season in Hartford is he impresses.

    I think Alex will do well in NY.

  165. ORR,
    He is in St.Petersburg,regreting only about hookers and bear – he liked it better in US.

  166. I was pulling for Kaspar to get his act together, but he didn’t look good in that pre-season which was his last few games in a Ranger jersey.

    I’ll always remember that classic hip check on Tim Connolly that pretty much ended his season with Buffalo. Classic. I was at that game.

  167. There are thousands of fans in Rangers land who want Sather gone (for obvious reasons) opposed to those or should i say the ONE who want dubi gone.

    So, i say it out loud..


  168. Simply astonishing… great signing if it’s official, no other way to look at it.

    Now LA misses out on both Russians, and one they already had that I think one day they will really be sorry about…

    They seemed to understand that today also.

    Naysayers bemoan to your like, this will be a positive for Sather’s legacy… at least have some faith in those bones…


  169. Olga Folkyerself on

    If there was a Plus/Minus stat for Sather, he’d be close to absolute zero.

  170. 1 year 3 mil is a great deal and considering Stepan and Grachev are most likely not ready to start, he is a nice stop gap.

    not to mention the fact that he could net us a nice 2nd round pick should we feel the need to trade him at the deadline

  171. probably some internet tough guy who uses a tough handle thinking people will be afraid of him. i go by the motto nothing to fear but fear itself

    and trade dubinsky

  172. Or on every 10 good signing or drafts – 27 bad.
    Good night everyone with hope of better next ofseason day.

  173. Olga Folkyerself on

    If quitters never win, and winners never quit, what about someone who never wins and never quits?

    They keep buying lottery tickets.

  174. I live in LA and I see a few Kings games a year. I think Frolov is better than the other shady Ruskies Slats has signed. Needs some consistency, sure, but has skills and doesn’t necessarily seem like he’s on the severe downhill of his career.

    Not great, but probably gets some goals this team needs.

  175. Two cups of coffee, and I still haven’t found any glowing comments of Frolov’s brilliance. Chris F. is the most positive review of Frolov yet. Sounds like Kotalik all over again.

  176. ThisYearsModel on

    Living in CA, I have seen Frolov play many times. He is a good player, and would be a nice pick up for the Rangers. Once he gets the puck along the boards, it is very difficult to get it away from him.


    Now I’ve heard everything.
    This summer has gone on way too long.
    What has this blog deteriorated to?
    Scooping up crumbs from the bakery floor.
    Next someone will start flipping their lower lip with their forefinger, while uttering deep sounds.
    I need a stiff drink – and even that might not help.

  178. Fran, you need a drink? Talk to me, buddy, talk to me..
    Where is Josh? Celebrating his 26th again?

    Good morning, boneheads!

  179. Very good read, thanks CW.

    Have they made the Frolov announcement yet – i’m curious to see what the agent means when he says “below market value”?

    Does he mean less than last year’s salary? ($4m)
    Less than last year’s cap hit? ($2.9m)
    or less than you’d have expected Slats to overpay for him? ($5m)

  180. I keep reading words like “gifted”, “enigmatic”, “talented”, “inconsistent” does this mean we have Nik Zherdev mkII or is the guy going to play his butt off to get a better contract next year?

    We’re still short a true first line center, so i’m guessing they expect Vinny, Christy or Anisimov to step up.

    I suppose the one immediate positive is that the signing of Frolov and the re-signing of Staal will necessitate the removal of one of the big contracts at the start of the season and more and more talk is of Redden being waived and sent to the AHL.

  181. Tank The Season on

    Anyone hear that Frolov went through a divorce last season?
    I can only wonder why a guy originally from Russia in that situation would want to come to NY.

    Hope he doesn’t party like Higgins did…

  182. there is one important thing with the signing

    whether its 3.5 or 2.5 mil thats irrelevant.


  183. even if Frolov is only slightly better than Zherdev we still get a steal. a 60 point player for 1 year 3 mil is absolutely great even if he has his mental lapses. No matter how you slice it Frolov > Christensen.

    Grachev is not making the team. He was one of the worst players in HFD down the stretch and he struggled big time. They need to see lots of improvements in HFD before we see him in the NHL…

  184. eric

    you are right on. as long as it is 1 year i could care less how much the cap hit is 1 mil, 2 mil, 3 mil, 4 mil. It makes no difference.

    Im kind of hoping that it is of the 3.5-4.0 variety which means goodbye Redden and no more signings…

  185. Doodie Machetto on

    If it’s a one year deal and we suck this year, maybe we can deal him at the deadline!

  186. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    Morning ILB and all!!

    I think the contract is around 2.5 to 3 mil (I hope). I agree with oleo, grachev was bad in htfd and I don’t think he is ready yet (just a guess). I think weise has the best chance at the roster of the rangers with stepan a marginal shot at this point. That’s it for the forwards. Mcdonut better make it on D!

  187. He seems tradable with a one year deal. But are the Rangers thinking he may be a complememnt to Grachev. . . . eventually?

    I wish I knew more about the kids. The little info I have is that Grachev may not be a great as everyone is hoping.

  188. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    I guess the flyers are going to be playing in the wells fargo centre now instead of the wachovia according to this tweet:

    L’aréna des Flyers change de nom: (CKAC Sports) L’édifice qui héberge les Flyers de Philadelphie et l’équipe de..

    not that it really matters just passing along hockey tidbits….some chic wants to set the stanley cup on fire over at puck daddy and apparently 2 teams are interested in signing andy sutton (no idea who the teams are).

  189. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    yes, I know how you feel about the kids, the only one I really did any info digging on was mcilrath prior to the draft. Other than that, I just pretty much get my info from what is said here.

  190. matt moulson avoids arbitration


    1 yr 2.45 mil. does frolov get more or less. moulson had 30 goals but also consider isles need to get to cap floor.

    i say frolov gets 3 mil

  191. wicky

    Del Zotto-Rozsival

    dont really see any room for another especially since Redden is still on the active roster…

  192. Doodie Machetto on

    They made their deal on D: Eminger. Other than him, expect any of our defenseman to already be a part of our system.

    Up front, it is unlikely for any prospects to end up in the top 9 forwards. As of now, the only 3 pure wingers we have among our top 3 lines are Gaborik, Callahan, and Avery. We have 5 guys in those positions that can play center: Prospal, Christensen, Drury, Dubinsky, Anisimov. Figure that two of Dubinsky, Prospal, Christensen, and Drury end up on the wing. That leaves only one spot on the wing to be filled, and the Frolov signing fills it.

    The only way a forward cracks our top 9 this year is if they either dump EC or have AA continue centering the fourth line. I’d be OK with moving EC to Hartford in light of the Frolov signing.

  193. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    I honestly agree with you. I figure with the guys you posted above, gilroy is probably 7th at this point (yes redden in htfd). I was hoping that we would make a deal that moved either girardi or rozy along with a roster forward for a centre. We then would have more of a number one centre and could add a bit more grit on the blueline.

    It is just what I would like to see, not really what I expect to see.

  194. there is no way Anisimov will be on the 4th line. I think Christensen can very well be centering the 4th line with Boyle and Byers being the healthy scratches. (remember Boogaard will not be playing every game)


  195. wicky, posted the traverse link before I had a chance to get to it.

    is it too early to say welcome to NY Frolov? I want to say it first….:)

  196. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    Is it bad that I was hoping prospal wouldn’t resign just so I could see who was going to get his letter?

  197. wicky (Give Prust the "C") on

    I think MZA gets 2nd line and cally gets 3rd. I really think prust needs to get 3rd line minutes. I hope byers stays in htfd.

    Off to work, later assens!!!!

  198. I just spoke to Josh. He did in fact turn 26 yesterday…Happy Birthday Josh!!!…and assures me that will be posting soon.

  199. why do you hope Byers stays in HFD? He has nothing more to gain by playing in HFD. He’s tough, he can fight and adds some offense to the 4th line. I think him and Boyle with split time with Boogaard and possibly Christensen on the 4th line.

  200. I could see:

    Frolov – Christensen – Gabby

    Prospal – AA – MZA – Vinny being the Veteran leader of the line

    Avery – Dubi – Callahan

    Prust – Drury – Boogaard/Boyle/Weise

  201. somerest

    thats ridiculous. the captain of the NY rangers and best defensive forward is not playing on the 4th line. Dubinsky is not going on the 3rd line either. Callahan maybe but not Dubi.

  202. Doodie Machetto on

    Dubinsky has hit his limit. 20 goals, 40-45 points. The guy has never been a big scorer, not even in juniors. It’s not awful, but he isn’t leading us to a cup anytime soon. He was our 2nd round pick in 2004. We can rely on our two first round picks from 2004 to carry us instead! Oh wait.. What about our first round pick from 2003 then? Oh… 2002? ETC., ETC.

  203. Oleo – its not so ridiculous if the guy is not contributing offensively 5 on 5. Look at Dave Andreychuk when the Lightning won the cup, he was 4th line center and played on the PP.
    I could see Drury manning the 4th line and taking a few shifts on the top lines here and there, plus playing PP and PK minutes, he’d still get 15-16 mins a night. I am thinking similarly to Somerset apart from Dubi on LW (torts quoted last seasons as saying he doesnt think Dubi sees the ice well enough to be a C), Prospal 1st line C and Christy on 3rd/4th line C.

    Granted, Drury would be the highest paid 4th liner in the league!

  204. Chris
    Not sure how much more you expect from Dubinski. He missed camp so may not have been the sharpest day 1. He also missed several weeks with the hand injury (10-12 games I think). Still scored 20 goals. Assume with a full year and in shape from the get go, he’s a 20+ goal guy. At a $1.850m cap hit, I’d say that’s pretty respectable.

    If you expect a 40 goal scorer, he aint that! He may not be an all-star, but he’s a solid young player. I think he gets too much of a bad rap because he plays on the top line by default, which is not necessarily his fault.

  205. I highly doubt Dubinsky has hit his limit after just his 3rd season in the NHL. I just don’t understand why him being JUST a 25 goal scorer is a bad thing?

  206. TheREALMikeyNJ on

    Since were all throwing out line ideas and roster projections, here’s my two cents:

    This is our current roster (Adding Frolov as the deal seems to be closing today)

    Gabby, Dubi, Cally, Avery, Drury, Artie, Boogaard, EC, Prospal, Stepan, Prust, Boyle, MZ Ansen, Frolov, Weise, Byers, Grachev.

    17 forwards – out of which 4 (Weise, Byers, Grachev, Stephan) are not assured to make the team

    MZA – Sather has said they didnt get him to play in the minors, so lets assume he makes the team.

    Tha leaves 13 forwards – so someone has to go. so for arguments sake, if Frolov is indeed signed today one player aint making the team.

    Question is who is losing there spot to a new player?

    D & Goal is easier:

    Del Z, Girardi, Staal (once resinged) Gilroy, Rosival, McDonough (if he makes the team, Eminger (7th) Redden (?)

    I think the job is McDonough’s to lose. If he impresses in camp, he makes the team, Redden gets sent down. I fnot, Eminger is there for Insurance and Redden becomes the most expensive thir pair/7th Dman in the league.

    But I’m hoping McD takes his job away.

    Goal – Hank & Biron – DONE


  207. UK Ranger

    Dave Andreychuk was also 40 years old and on a Stanley Cup contender. He wasn’t on the 4th line (if that’s even accurate) in favor of Erik Christensen. They had a damn good team.

    There is no way that Drury plays on the 4th line for a borderline playoff team…

  208. TheREALMikeyNJ

    ever heard of a healthy scratch? just because you aren’t in the lineup on said day doesn’t mean you don’t make the team.

  209. Coach Beeblebrox on


    I’m not sure why people think Dubinsky is worthless if he’s not a superstar. As you said, he’s a 20-25 goal guy, what is wrong with that? And who ever said Dubinsky was going to be some 40 goal 90 point guy? Or even a 30 goal 70 point guy? Who is it exactly that is saying he has not lived up to his “potential” when no one has said he has such high potential?

    Seriously, I don’t get what people want from the kid. I read things like “he’s not leading us to a cup”. Well, no kidding Sherlock, he’s not freaking Messier, he’s not even Graves. But why do we have to trade him because he’s not?

    I don’t even understand the argument for trading him. I read people want to trade him just to dump Redden or Rozsival, in essence wasting him. I see people wanting to trade him for Richards, a pending UFA who we cannot afford, again wasting Dubinsky on a rental?

    I don’t understand some of you fans at all. You sound like you’ve all been brainwashed by the WIN NOW New York mentality that Sather used as an excuse to pilfer us to nothing for a decade.

  210. Oleo …

    There were times last year that Drury played 4th line Center, so its not so ridiculous.

    Christensen wasnt re-signed to play on the 4th line, and Boyle didnt do anything last year to guarantee himself a roster spot, other than sign a one way contract.

    AA either takes over the 2nd line Center position or he could be back to the 4th line where he himself said he felt more comfortable last year.

    Depending on AA, I see the Roster like this:

    Frolov – Christensen – Gabby
    Prospal – AA – MZA – Vinny being the Veteran leader of the line
    Avery – Dubi – Callahan
    Prust – Drury – Boogaard/Boyle/Weise


    Frolov – Christensen – Gabby
    Prospal – Dubi – MZA
    Avery – Drury – Callahan
    Prust – AA – Boogaard/Boyle/Weise

  211. Coach Beeblebrox

    what’s funny is its those same people complaining about not having a top line or Dubinsky being no good that whine and whine every time Sather overpays for a free agent or trades a good young player.

    I just don’t understand what some of these people expect. I think they expect a prospect to just come straight from the AHL or CHL and just come in score 30 goals right away.

  212. Coach Beeblebrox on


    Problem is that Tortorella likes Dubinsky on the LW, so chances are we see something like this:


    Avery has played center often enougb, he could center the 4th unit if Boyle does not. And Prospal and Drury could always slip down to the 4th unit too. Since Tortorella showed he has changed his MO and will use a 4th unit, the 3rd and 4th units could interchange.

  213. Doodie Machetto on

    “I just don’t understand why him being JUST a 25 goal scorer is a bad thing?”

    I didn’t say it was. In fact, I said specifically after I said he was topping out around 20-25 goals, 40-50 points that it wasn’t a bad thing.

    ” I read things like “he’s not leading us to a cup”. Well, no kidding Sherlock, he’s not freaking Messier, he’s not even Graves. But why do we have to trade him because he’s not?”

    I said he wasn’t leading us to a Cup, but I never suggested trading him. I think players like Dubinsky are crucial to winning the Stanley Cup. But some people expect him to eventually be a #1 center and it’s just not in the cards. The only guys we have in the organization that have that kind of potential are Stepan and Kreider, and even then, it’s mostly just wishful thinking and is years away even if they DO pan out.

  214. ilb2001

    Would that you could.

    My wife came in earlier and said ” what’s the matter with you gurgling at the computer”?
    I was forced to explain that I was not gurgling, but was in the first stage of strangulation. And she then said what’s this about you needing a strong drink…my coffee isn';t good enough?” (she hoped it wasn’t alcoholic, because she then said, “you haven’t been looking for any hard stuff I’ve been off that since l968″ Ahhhh..true.

    So I had to tell her that my pet blog has gone TA, and there is a strange force taking over here, and we,ve come full circle. I mentioned the “cuteness factor”

    She brightened up at that…”what a terrific idea!”

    That did it. She blanched at the sight of me coming in with a six pack of Bud. It never went down so good.
    Dark muttering in the background I can live with, but “cuteness” ???

    What would y’all recommend? (separation is out of the question.)

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