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The team avoided arbitration and signed the restricted free agent, for a reported four years, $3.325M per.

From the NYR:

RANGERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH DEFENSEMAN DAN GIRARDI

New York, July 9, 2010 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has agreed to terms with defenseman Dan Girardi on a new contract.

Girardi, 26, skated in 82 games with the Rangers this season, registering six goals and 18 assists for 24 points, along with 53 penalty minutes.  He was one of four Rangers to skate in all 82 games, and has played in 280 consecutive games, ranking ninth in the NHL among active streaks.  He led the team and ranked sixth in the NHL with 180 blocked shots, tied for second on the Rangers with 178 hits, ranked second in average icetime (21:29) and third with a plus-nine rating at home.  Girardi ranked second among team defensemen and ninth on the Rangers overall in even strength scoring, registering 19 of his 24 points at even strength, and he ranked third among club blueliners in goals and points, and fourth in assists.  The Rangers posted a record of 4-1-0 when he tallied a goal.  Girardi tied his career-high with a three-game assist/point streak from December 16 vs. the NY Islanders to December 19 at Philadelphia (three assists), and he recorded his first career multi-goal game with two goals on October 12 vs. Toronto.  On October 3, Girardi skated in his 200th career NHL game, registering one assist and a plus-three rating vs. Ottawa at Madison Square Garden.

A veteran of four NHL seasons, Girardi posted his finest offensive output during the 2007-08 season, establishing career-highs in goals (10), assists (18), points (28), power play goals (five) and shots (147).  His 10 goals tied for 20th in the NHL among defensemen, and he ranked second among team blueliners in goals, assists, points and power play goals.  Girardi also tallied a career-high, three playoff assists in 10 contests, recording his first NHL post-season point with a shorthanded assist on the game-winning goal in Game One of their Eastern Conference Quarterfinal matchup vs. New Jersey on April 9 at Prudential Center.  Earlier that season, Girardi notched his first career NHL goal with a power play tally on October 18 at Atlanta.

The 6-2, 215-pounder has skated in 280 career NHL games with the Rangers, registering 20 goals and 60 assists for 80 points, along with 128 penalty minutes.  As a rookie in 2006-07, he tied for ninth in the NHL among first-year players with a plus-seven rating, having posted a plus or even rating in 28 of 34 games following his recall from Hartford (AHL) on January 25, 2007.  The Rangers completed their 2006-07 campaign registering a 19-9-6 record with Girardi in the lineup.  Girardi tallied his first career point with a two-assist performance on February 17, 2007 vs. Philadelphia, and made his NHL debut on January 27, 2007 at Philadelphia.  In addition, Girardi has recorded three assists and 16 penalty minutes in 27 career playoff contests.

The Welland, Ontario native signed as a free agent with the Rangers on July 1, 2006.

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  1. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m sure whatever these terms are, they will go a long way in determining what Staal’s terms will be.

  2. Girardi signed after reading himself’s post where at Arbitration:

    Girardi’s agent makes a multi media presentation along with highlight footage, powerpoint, and presentation of comparable salaries for defensemen who played in all 82 games.

    Sather was silent and simply rolled the video clip of Girardi watching Gabby get punched out while Giradi stood frozen.

    Upon reading this post, Girardi told his agent,

    “No arbitration. Just settle, idiot!” and did not fire his agent.

  3. >>Wow! We’re back to talking hockey!!!!

    Not a moment too soon! I had refused to participate in discussions revolving around that other sport and its clowns.

  4. although terms were not disclosed, it is believed that this single incident cost Dan Girardi more than $3,000,000 dollars over the course of the new contract.

  5. Ryan from NJ on

    Two years ago Girardi took 2 steps forward but I thought last year year he took 3 steps back. He is not physical enough, not a puck moving defense-man.

    I understand he just does all the little things right, but last year he could barely do that. And when he stood tere and watched Gaborik drop the gloves with Carcillo, I lost more respect for him.

    I think he’s too soft and I think this will only be a good signing if he is making $2 mill or less.

  6. Wouldn’t it be great to see Girardi’s contract at a low base with incentives added for ‘blocked shots’, ‘hits’ and ‘knockdowns of players standing in the crease’?? For a guy 6’2″ and 215 lbs. he should be playing a more physical style.

  7. enough with Girardi and Gaborik. if he steps in and we give up the GWG on that poweplay, Girardi gets killed also.

    he’s a very solid 2nd pair d-man who for that cap hit, is better than anyone on the market.

  8. HI STAAL!!!

    this is the only rumor i’ve seen on the terms for girardi

    PuckCentral

    If that’s accurate, great numbers. Expect near $3M per RT @Jay_Gold_: New York #Rangers – (D) Dan Girardi – Guess: 2 years – $4 M. total.

  9. TheREALMikeyNJ on

    Hoping his contract is for 2-3 years at under 3 mil. That would be a fair price right?

    Over 3 mil, too much IMHO

  10. Daniel J

    Girardi led all Rangers defenseman in blocked shots and hits last season. Girardi finished for, dmen 6th in the hits and 12th in blocked shots in the ENTIRE NHL.

  11. Hartford Whalerpack on

    I heard there was a signing clause in his contract that forces him to attend a week of Boogie’s fighting camp.

  12. oleosmirf

    I did not know that. However, my impression of his play is that he could bring a tougher, more physical aspect to his game.

  13. oleo – the Rangers stats for hits (and probably blocked shots too) are pretty inflated year after year compared to other teams. I wouldn’t read too much into that.

  14. Ryan from NJ on

    Its funny how we all blame Rozy for giveaways when he ranked 4th out of our defensive core, lol

  15. Its not about laying people out on the ice with every hit, though. Because for every time you get that huge hit, 2 times the guy you’re trying to lay out leaves you choking on his snowshower. I’d rather him make the solid hit, seperate the man from the puck, and let Redden……do whatever it is he does when he’s on the ice.

  16. Ryan,
    I think Girardi is great when standing next to Dredden but average when standing next to anyone else.

    If his salary isn’t too much, it aint that bad.

    I agree he needs to start playing a meaner tougher game.

    Overall, we gain if we drop Redden to Hartford.

  17. Ryan

    the big hit is overrated as more often than not it takes you out of the play. he is consistent and solid and fairly young.

    what FA D-man could you get instead for that cap hit, that few years and is better?

  18. Ryan,

    Thanks for saving me from typing that. Girardi’s hiits and more like rubs or polite angling of opponents.

    That said, rangers could do worse and glad he signed.

  19. You guys talk about Girardi like he’s the worst player on the team. Far from it.

  20. Ryan from NJ on

    I’m not looking for Girardi to be the A-Train (killing me that he plays in my backyard now), but someone mentioned his size, for his size, he can and should be expected to play a more uptempo physical game. Just get downright nastier when playing. He looks so polite and never gets mad, lol.

  21. Doodie-
    For what it’s worth:

    Staal played just 12 post season games for Hartford in 05-06 after playing the season in Sudbury.

    06-07 season back in Sudbury
    07-08 NHL

  22. Ryan from NJ on

    oleosmirf,

    good point, no other FA dmen out there, I’m glad we resigned him, but I think he needs to bounce back from last season. Playing with Redden can drag anyone down, and playing with Staal and can make you a whole lot better.

    My buddy is a Devils fan and wishes to god they were able to get Girardi, he believes he’s the perfect devils’ type defenseman.

  23. “back to talking hockey!”

    who ever said Girardi wasn’t clutch!?

    he signed with 7.7 seconds left before we lost it due to all the Lebron talk

  24. Ryan from NJ on

    It makes me sick everytime I look at our roster and the payrolls that go with it.

    I just can imagine the possibilities if we didn’t have Drury at $7 mill, Redden at $6.5 mill, Rozsival at $5 mill, Avery at $4 mill, and Brashear at $1.4 mill.

    Teams laugh at our management, as do we. I really won’t EVER EVER EVER understand how Glen Sather has kept his job this long. I hope the Dolans and Sather write a book one day explaining his tenure here.

  25. Like it or not, he still brings much more to the table than R & R! And at a cheaper price too! Now lets get Staal re-signed and lets see what happens!

  26. Ryan from NJ on

    Community Question:

    Who is your favorite ACTIVE defense man not on the NY Rangers roster?

  27. Ryan

    Avery does not get 4 mil in the cap…the Rangers cap hit for him is 1.9 mil which is below market value for Avery.

  28. Jeff S From DE on

    According to Chris Botta, the Rangers deal for Girardi is FOUR years and a total of $13.3 million.

  29. Jeff S From DE on

    Girardi was reportedly seeking four years, $3 million. And it seems as though he may have gotten more.

  30. Just to be fair, Girardi isn’t the only D-man who needs to play a meaner game. I agree that every check doesn’t need to be a teeth jarring hit but it would be good to instill a little fear in fore-checking forwards who don’t feel any need to move a puck any quicker than they want to.

  31. he is getting pretty much the same deal as Seidenberg and Tallinder did.

    I would put Girardi ahead of both of them because of age…

  32. Nik Kronwall, Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook (some one we could have had but we wanted Jessiman) James Wysniewski to name a few. I also could live with Kevin Bieksa who might be available…

  33. ….or a newspaper….:)

    Jab, getting carp’d means carp puts up a new post right when you’ve posted your last comment on the previous thread, thus your brilliance gets ignored on next thread. it’s bonehead lingo.

  34. TheREALMikeyNJ on

    so 4 years @ $3.325 per year

    Mroe than I wanted to pay for him, but at least he’s solid

    Jstu add some snarl to your game, and dotn get paired with Redden and he should have a bounce back year

    Girardi Def woul dhave gotten that from another team if we didnt re-sing him

  35. assuming Redden and Brashear’s cap hits are still on the team, we have roughly 5.5 mil for 3 spots.

    i assume Staal will get 4 mil and that leaves 2-3 spots for guys like Wiese, Byers and/or a 7th d-man

  36. Doodie Machetto on

    “the Rangers cap hit for him is 1.9 mil which is below market value for Avery.”

    No, it’s over market value. That’s why we were the only team interested in scooping him up on reentry waivers. The market doesn’t want him, just stupid Rangers.

    As for Girardi’s numbers, man, did Slats overpay.

    I might even be inclined to say he blew it, because Staal is definitely getting over 4 million now.

  37. I don’t think that its overpaying for Girardi. You have to remember it goes out 4 years into years when he could be a UFA, in which case he might be worth a lot more than 3.3 per year.

  38. this is a good contract b/c if Girardi continues to improve he will be worth much more than 3.35 mil in 2 years when cap space is at a premium

  39. Gift of GAB-orik( proceeds to go to charity) on

    At a 1.9 Million cap hit, Avery is/was a solid move. Nobody else jumped because of his locker room antics, though, the Rangers are a better team with him in the lineup, and when he’s on his game.

    Avery scored more goals than our 1st line center (E.C.)
    and scored just one less than Artie. His 31 points put him one point behind Chris Drury in total production.

    So you want to tell me again that 1.9 is too much?

  40. girardi is a very solid dman, who seems to have a bad rap around here. this is a good move for our team. i hadnt seen nhl.com stats for our dmen from last year. a few things – girardi also led them in takeaways, and shots. i thought del would have had the most shots. i was surprised he led them in giveaways, and that redden had the LEAST of any of our 6. how is that possible? i feel like at least once a game someone would lightly bump into him, he would collapse onto the ice and give the puck up. this would usually be followed by me cursing his name. if hes on our opening night roster i will cry

  41. I’d like to see what Weise can do. Maybe he can give Drury some relief on the PK, keeping him a little fresher. Weise did have 5 shorties last year.

    And of course Stepan as soon as he’s ready.

  42. Gift of Gab

    people often forget what Avery is capable of doing to the opposition. What he did to Brodeur, Kovalchuk etc. is absolutely outstanding and if he actually had a good PP, all those penalties he draws would actually mean something

  43. I was thinking 3 year at $11 mil. So it’s within the same numbers. Probably more than he should get, but not by much. At least we know what we have. Keep your own, especially if they are young.

  44. Gift of GAB-orik( proceeds to go to charity) on

    Oleo,

    great point, couldn’t have said it better myself. He has those intangibles that make him an effective player, and a greatly effective antagonizer. He gets people thinking about where he is on the ice, rather than just playing.

  45. I think most people got po’d at Girardi after the Carcillo-Gabby incident! The fact of the matter is he still is better than R & R and cheaper! If someone better was available for cheaper, maybe he would be with us now (although I forget who is running this show from time to time).

  46. Gift of GAB-orik ( Proudly re-signing with Boneheads! ) on

    Boogaard 1.6, zero offense, Avery 1.9, can skate, hit, score, fight, and knock people off their game. NO BRAINER.
    AVERY > $1.9

  47. I believe Avery could be an important and vital part of this team. I think there are issues between Avery and some teammates and possibly Torts as well.

    He’s a tremendous skater, physical and energentic. When fully engaged he can be a game changer, whether it’s getting an opponent off his game or creating open ice and scoring opportunities in the offensive zone. I think he disappeared last year when he saw this team going nowhere because of a lack of consistent effort from teammates. I think there are issues in the Ranger locker room that remain unresolved. This is the cause of lack of team chemistry, sticking up for each other and the inconsistent team play. Avery strikes me as a heart and soul guy who’s a better player when he’s part of a TEAM, something sorely lacking with the Rangers.

  48. Tank The Season on

    Avery is our Tikkanen, for better or worse.
    Granted Tikkanen was a universally beloved Ranger.

    If Girardi got what he got, and Staal gets the same or more, Redden is undoubtedly getting buried because we can’t go into next season with less offense than just kept us out of the playoffs (Jokinen was not replaced).

  49. Not to sound like I’m trying to push Girardi out the door.

    But he’d be very movable at that number 3 years down the line if McIlrath or someone else is ready. Maybe a bargain.

  50. I still dont see the Rangers waiving Redden before the season starts, unless he comes to camp in terrible shape.

    I just dont see them starting the season with 6 mil in cap space and now that we surely cant afford Kovalchuk, there is no FA available at all that we should even consider right now.

    i predict McDonagh starts the season in HFD and if we fall out of the playoff race, Redden finally gets waived…

  51. NorthCountryRanger on

    wow overpaying Girardi before we sign our real target defenseman will only make Staal want even more $…great job slats.

  52. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Thanks, Sather! Another waste!
    Girardi at 1 year, $3million’ish is bad (but not dreadful). This is a 13.5million contract given to a slouch who has gotten worse every single year! AWFUL! Who is making these decisions, is Greg actually running this team?!

  53. wicky (Stick checkers R Us!!!!) on

    I don’t think avery has a lot of problems with his teammates, his coach is a moron when it comes to using him effectively.

    Girardi got waaaay too much money. He deserves stuart money that boston dished out. Is he better than R or R, yep! But that isn’t saying much. They probably won;t do it, but they should trade him!

    Any one see the offer sheet that SJ put out on the hawks d man??

  54. That number is fine for Girardi, now give Staal $4mill and we have around $8 mill to play with once Redden is in Hartford.
    Maloney was saying Girardi would probably get around $4mil but I knew that couldnt be true, glad it wasnt

  55. I love Girardi and will be glad to have him in Ranger blue for the next four years but $3.25/per year is too much. What the hell does Staal expect to get?

    And they gave him four years.. since that money is guaranteed there’s no way he should be making that much for 4 years. Maybe two or three but 4? Come on Sather.

  56. i dont think you can say Henrik Tallinder (who got the same deal from NJ) is more worthy than Girardi.

    ill overpay him now when we are rebuilding to have him cheaper down the road where we actually need that cap space.

  57. Chicago will match that somehow I believe. No way they let Hjalmarsson walk…

  58. I’ve had some doubt whether Redden will really be sent to Hartford. Looking at the Capgeek numbers, it shows us as having around $4.5 mil in space after the Girardi signing. If that is true, it would seem that we’d HAVE to send him down. It looks like that $4.5 space is including the $1.75 mil for MZA. If he doesn’t make the Rangers and starts in Hartford, I am assuming that doesn’t count against the cap correct?

  59. Doodie Machetto on

    Tikkanen could also score. Number of 20 goal seasons for Tikk: 6 (5 of which were consecutive, 3 being 30+). Number of 20 goal seasons for Avery: 0.

    I hate how everyone has a mancrush on Avery for his 10 goals and 30 points.

    Someone compared him to Christensen. First, Christensen makes half as much money. Second, Christensen was not exclusively on the first line. he spent more than his fair share playing on really por 3rd and 4th lines. Third, Avery scored 3 more goals and had 2 more assists in TWENTY more games. He also took a ton of stupid penalties and is a turnover machine, two things which you can’t say about Christensen.

    Someone said Avery can fight. No, he cannot. Jumping Ruslan Fedotenko? Getting pounded by Hartnell? Beating up Bruno “My second career fight” Gervais or Josh “I fight once a year” Gorges? OK, sure, he fought Carcillo and got the W. All that shows me is he fights better than Gaborik. 6 Fights a year does not make a guy a fighter. Dubinsky fought 6 times two years ago and 7 the year before that, and I don’t think anyone would call him a fighter or a guy capable of fighting. “I paint my nails black because its my fighting hand!” Please. Be lamer.

    Avery IS Carcillo, both literally and figuratively. I can’t believe he is still riding a good 20 game stretch 4 years later.

    The definition of “market value” is what the market is willing to pay for something. The entire market (save our Rangers) decided 1.9 was too much for Avery. Hence, he is being paid more than his market value. The guy is a jerk. end of story.

  60. Seems like he cashed in. At that price, I imagine he has no NTC. . . . .because he IS gonna get traded.

  61. Doodie Machetto on

    If I could get rid of one guy from the team, regardless of contract, I would pick Avery in a heartbeat. He’s a cancer.

  62. I think it’s too early to make a call on where Redden is on opening day. I think it largely depends on what our kids show in camp. Understandably, the organization is hesitant to eat Redden’s contract but keeping him here on the downside of his career while at the same time preventing a youngster from gaining valuable experience is hurting the team now and in the future. If any of our prospects impress the staff enough to make them believe they are ready to step in and give the team at least what Redden does then Redden will be sent down with the message that he needs to earn his spot back, which is doubtful.

  63. Yes if Redden goes to Hartford his salary doesn’t count against the cap. Dolan has to eat it. Unless another team picks him up then we pay half, right?

    “Seems like he cashed in. At that price, I imagine he has no NTC. . . . .because he IS gonna get traded.”

    He is probably the Rangers best all-around defenseman. What the hell are you talking about?

  64. Doodie,
    Didn’t you see him fight Carcillo after that coward Girardi didn’t? Haven’t you seen him fight Darcy Tucker? Mike Richards? He CAN fight. He is no Probert or McSorely, but he can handle himself fine.

    Avery was signed by the Rangers because he is such an a**hole that no one wanted any part of him. But when he is where he wants to be, he is worth every penny. He deserves a lot of credit for getting the NYR over the hump the last few years. Funny how NYR miss the playoffs the year Avery isn’t in the lineup down the stretch.

  65. Best all around defenseman? Staal and DelZotto may have something to say aboot that. I bet McDonough is better than soft Danny right now.

  66. LOL @ calling Girardi a coward. It was a mental lapse. He was trying to keep the faceoff away from the circles in his zone. Given a second chance he’d whoop Carcillo’s ass.

    And now we have Boogaard. Oh man these games against Philly are going to be fun.

  67. “Best all around defenseman? Staal and DelZotto may have something to say aboot that. I bet McDonough is better than soft Danny right now.”

    DelZ has one whole season under his belt. Easy, Francis.

    And if Staal’s last name wasn’t Staal he’d be getting the same $ as Girardi.

  68. Gift of GAB-orik ( Proudly re-signing with Boneheads! ) on

    Doodie,

    Don’t bash Avery’s 1.9, without talking about Boogey’s 1.6. Avery drew alot of powerplays, and took some stupid penalties, that’s the tradeoff. Nobody chases EC around the rink trying to kill him, Avery makes a difference. You don’t hear people chanting ER-IC at the garden, or cheers for Danny boy, or Redden, or alot of others. AV-ERY chants rain down almost as much as HEN-RIK.

    He energizes the garden, works hard, and does what he’s told, even when he’s told to tone down. He plays with HEART, which is alot more than i can say for over half this roster.

    If his passion leads him to take a dumb penalty here or there, i’ll take it, cuz like someone said earler, if we had a halfway decent PP, Avery would be earning every bit of that 1.9, and we’d have more W’s on the stat sheets.

  69. Wow Doodie, I was really enjoying things for a while til you came along with that post….LW’s right, why are are sugar coating your feelings? :)

  70. Gift of GAB-orik ( Proudly re-signing with Boneheads! ) on

    Plus, if Avery made the same money as EC, you’d still hate him, so call it what it is.

  71. Gift of GAB-orik ( Proudly re-signing with Boneheads! ) on

    Orr,

    i thought we wanted to join Kovy on the Heat?

  72. Gift of GAB-orik ( Proudly re-signing with Boneheads! ) on

    NYP_Brooksie
    .4 at $3.325 fair deal for both parties.Staal 6 at 4.5 or so would be same.

  73. since he was becoming a UFA next season and I see Girardi getting better, i agree fair deal for both sides.

  74. Doodie Machetto on

    “Don’t bash Avery’s 1.9, without talking about Boogey’s 1.6. Avery drew alot of powerplays, and took some stupid penalties, that’s the tradeoff. Nobody chases EC around the rink trying to kill him, Avery makes a difference. You don’t hear people chanting ER-IC at the garden, or cheers for Danny boy, or Redden, or alot of others. AV-ERY chants rain down almost as much as HEN-RIK. ”

    Just because Boogaard makes an even more ridiculous 1.6, it doesn’t justify Avery getting 1.9.

    As for the avery chant, I went to more games this season than I have in the past 4, and I heard the Avery chant MAYBE twice. HEN-RIK is twice a game, at least. And just becuase buffoons in the Garden are fooled by his antics, doesn’t mean that I am.

    “He deserves a lot of credit for getting the NYR over the hump the last few years.”

    It’s drivel like this that angers me.

    “Plus, if Avery made the same money as EC, you’d still hate him, so call it what it is.”

    Yes, I would hate Avery if he played for free. I’ve already said that without considering contracts, he is the first player I would want off the team. He is a cancer. I can’t stand the guy. No class. No thank you.

  75. 3.3 mill for DanGina? What in holly hell?

    We probably could’ve had Willie Mitchell for extra couple hundred dollars… and DanGina is no Willie!

  76. Peter, not happening.

    The thing you all fail to notice with Girardi is that the team — coaches, management, and especially network — think he’s really good.

    And I agree, the thing with Carcillo was more a bad decision than a cowardly one.

  77. Has Willie Mitchell even been cleared to play? He missed about 40 games at the end due to a bad concussion…

  78. Doodie, I agree with most of your Avery points…but…I’d stiil rather have Avery than Redden…

  79. some of you guys need to understand the Rangers couldnt sign him for any more than 2 years and not pay him this much.

    the Rangers are overpaying him now and next season in order to get him for below market value for the final 2 seasons. If the Rangers signed him for 2.25 mil for 2 years then when he becomes a UFA, they will have to pay him or some other UFA 4+ mil for 4 years.

    considering the Rangers are in no way shape or form in need of that cap space for the next 2 seasons, it is a very good signing

  80. avery is a disgrace. do you honestly think hes the difference between the rangers being a playoff team or not? what does he do well? i was ecstatic when dallas signed him away, only to have my heart sink when we picked him back up 6 months later. terrible

  81. Daniel, MSG Network … where they were saying at the end of last season that Staal-Girardi might be the best shutdown pair in the NHL.

    What in holy hell?

  82. wicky (Stick checkers R Us!!!!) on

    doodie
    like it or not, we were not making the playoffs the year we first acquired him. If not for that deal to get him, we would have missed out.

    Avery has shown, if he gets first or second line minutes, he can produce 15 to 20 goals. He is effective if he is allowed to play his game, if he isn’t (what torts does), then he is not as effective, it is simple really!

  83. wicky (Stick checkers R Us!!!!) on

    yes, I know he has never produce “20” goals. I am speculating on his 15 goal season!

  84. wicky (Stick checkers R Us!!!!) on

    I think girardi made out like a bandit, I wonder what color ski mask he wore???

  85. light at the end of the tunnel on

    Compare Volchenkov’s age, size, #’s, $’s to Girardi. Girardi is not as overpaid as Volchenkov.

    There were far worse contracts signed recently.

  86. wicky (Stick checkers R Us!!!!) on

    light
    that’s a train bro……look at the two playing styles…marshmallow vs steamroller. No comparison. That is like comparing joe thornton’s offencive skills and high jessiman’s because they are the same size!!!!!!!

  87. Doodie Machetto on

    “doodie
    like it or not, we were not making the playoffs the year we first acquired him. If not for that deal to get him, we would have missed out. ”

    I openly admit that he definitely sparked our play late that year, but we were going to make the playoffs without him. There were other factors of why our play improved (dumping Aaron Ward), but Avery was great, no question. I actually expected him to play center that year, to center Shanahan and Prucha and let Cullen center the third line. He was great though, and into the playoffs as well. No question about it.

    But that was 20 games 4 seasons ago. Time to show something new.

    And no, he has not shown that he can score 15-20. He has never scored 20. Therefore, 20 is above the range he has shown that he can score.

  88. bull dog line on

    wow, thats the going rate for soft Dmen, I can’t wait to see what poke check Staal gets. probably more the Kovalchuk is asking, because no Dman is softer that Staal.

  89. “…MSG Network … where they were saying at the end of last season that Staal-Girardi might be the best shutdown pair in the NHL.”

    I expect some home team bias but that seems to be a stretch. So who would the top shutdown pairs be?

  90. checking in from turks and caicos on anniversary trip with wife and i see that girardi gets 3.3 over 4 years . thats overpaying again. im sorry he should get 2.8 at most. but its glen being glen so not surprised.

    check back in later boneheads. back to the beach.

    whens the kovy special on versus?

  91. for what its worth:

    “Update..Out with a source…I am told…”If the Rangers make a trade today, you’ll know the Kovalchuk domino about to fall…but that doesn’t 100% mean Ilya is heading to NY.””

    – eklund

  92. Doodie Machetto on

    “for what its worth:”

    You might as well have left it blank underneath and it would have been worth more than reading that jerk’s drivel.

  93. Kovalchuk is not coming to the Rangers, waiving Redden and trading Brashear isnt even enough.

  94. And This One Will Last A Lifetime on

    Girardi was worth $2.? mio per year, not $3.? mio per year.

    Once again, we (the NYR) throw away $1 mio a year like its chump change.

    Rismiller, Voros, Brashear….those three guys alone would buy a better D man than Girardi. Now Staal has to get $4.?

  95. Daniel, any pair with Pronger on it. Any pair with Chara on it. Any pair with Lidstrom on it. You name it. Almost every team has two more legit first-pair defensemen than those two. And I like Staal.

  96. And This One Will Last A Lifetime

    the Rangers couldnt sign him for 2 mil for 4 years. it was 2 mil for 2 years or 3 mil and change mil for 4.

    the Rangers are rebuilding and they dont need the extra cap space so in order to get him for cheaper 3-4 years from now, they are paying extra now.

    its a simple concept really…

  97. Girardi, or anyone paired with Redden was left with “one foot in the bucket” or having to “babysit” and play a cautious game knowing that Redden’s confidence was shot.

    I do wish we had a Scott Stevens kind of hitter, but I don’t doubt that Staal is going to rattle some fillings this season. He seems to have gotten meaner each year.

    He and Girardi may have better shifts with Redden in Hartford, overall, and solid years. I am expecting Staal to become a league standout this year.

    I am optimistic about our year to come.

  98. Carp, if you ever decide to ban posters who paste Eklund comments, I’ll be fully supportive – and I bet a lot of others would be as well.

  99. For those of you who hate Glen Sather:

    do you wish he was your boss?

    :)

    I sure as heck do!

  100. hey all i know its been a bit. carp i just emailed you. make sure you check it out to make sure its legit.

    hope everyone is doing well and enjoying their summer.

  101. I am optimistic about our year to come.

    —–

    I wish i had a $1 for every time i hear this about Rangers upcoming season… i would be here!

  102. i would *NOT* be here!

    or maybe I would be here but posting from somewhere in Europe or some small Island and NOT from my Brooklyn apartment!

  103. Doodie Machetto on

    “the Rangers are rebuilding and they dont need the extra cap space so in order to get him for cheaper 3-4 years from now, they are paying extra now.

    its a simple concept really…”

    You’re oversimplifying. You’re assuming that in 3-4 years he is going to be worth more than 3.325 million a year. I disagree. I think that as his responsibilities and role on the team has expanded, he has become increasingly exposed as just a soft, mediocre defenseman who would be nothing more than a solid 3rd pairing guy on a good team.

    By locking him in for 4 years, we’re stuck with him for better or worse, and I happen to believe it will be worse. At best he will earn the dollar amount. I would have gladly taken 2 years at 2.5.

  104. “Update..Out with a source…I am told…”If the Rangers make a trade today, you’ll know the Kovalchuk domino about to fall…but that doesn’t 100% mean Ilya is heading to NY.”

    So…if the Rangers make a trade today, it has little or nothing to do with Kovalchuk?

  105. there is a trade i believe. i emailed carp. hopefully he can find out if its legit.

  106. CCCP – I am posting from a small island in Europe. It doesn’t make things appear any better, believe me.

  107. carp
    ive been laying low since the draft
    i would have probably been outnumbered w/ the viewpoints i would have had w/ how that went. lol.

  108. Carp

    “…any pair with Pronger on it. Any pair with Chara on it. Any pair with Lidstrom on it.”

    I wonder how effective Pronger would be if the refs called all the cross-checks, elbows and shots to the head he doles out. He’s good, but I think he’s over-rated because he’s allowed to get away with so much. Can’t argue with Chara who’s big, mean, skates well and has a cannon of a shot. Lidstrom is cream of the crop. Skates effortlessly, is perfectly positioned at all times and rarely takes penalties.

  109. the only reason you think he’s soft is b/c of one game where he didnt take a 3rd man in penalty for Gaborik and b/c he doesnt hit like Scott Stevens.

    12th in hits and 6th in blocked shots in only his 4th season in the NHL. He also puts up good offensive numbers. I’ll take the risk that he will only go up from here.

    remember 2.5 mil or 3.35 mil doesnt make any difference this season as we arent signing anyone of major importance other Staal.

  110. The best D man NOT on the Rangers? Well I have to pass on Lidstrom solely due to the age factor, but it’s tough to [ick from those three Chicago guys.

    Chara is still scary, but he’s shown that he can be had.

    I tell you, there are a whole raft of really good D men in central and far west, whose names don’t readily pop up in my mind…and i don’t like to let personal feelings influence my consideration of Pronger.

  111. Daniel, I don’t doubt he’s dirty and even overrated, and that he gets away with murder … but he is effective.

  112. Doodie Machetto on

    “Everlast is gone”

    If that comment means what I think it means, it is the most subtle and excellent joke I have seen in a long time. Well done.

  113. So, we have Staal (most likely), Girardi, Del Z, Gilroy, Dredden, Blowzival, Eminger, and most likely McDonut will make the team.

    Eight D-men, and Dredden will definitely be gone. Maybe Blowzy too??

    Slats would show some serious ball power if he sent both of those clowns to Hartford.

    But, why the fugg do we get Eminger? He’s nobody special.

    And I’m sure Butt-Chin Gabby will pull a groin from all the tossing and turning he’ll be doing now that his BFF is gone.

    Goodbye Voros! Have all the “muscles” you can possibly eat in Anaheim!

  114. uckCentral

    That’s NYR 7th dman RT @StapeNewsday: Eminger signed through next season, $1.125m cap hit.

  115. thenyrangers

    #NYR Breaking News: #NYRangers trade Aaron Voros & Ryan Hillier to @AnaheimDucks for Steve Eminger. Stay tuned for official press release

  116. Doodie Machetto on

    Maybe he can paint the nails on his other hand black because that’s the hand he used when he and Voros would have circle jerks

  117. the writing was on the wall with those Memorial Day pics he posted up on twitter… he got Hank mad ;-)

  118. CCCP, keep yo’ shirt on bro! I’m sure there may be other things in the works

  119. LW3H

    That’s funny! But when i said Europe or a small Island I meant my own city in Europe or my own little island! sorry for not being specific! lol

  120. Doodie Machetto on

    I really like this trade. Trading spare parts for a serviceable defenseman. Hell, his numbers remind me of Girardi.

    72 gp, 5 goals, 12 assists, +2. 6’1, 201 lbs, 26 going on 27

    82 gp, 6 goals, 18 assists, -2. 6’2, 208 lbs, 26.

    I know hockey isn’t purely a numbers game, but based on his contract and the deal he’s on, this was a great trade.

  121. Carp

    Yes, Pronger’s effective. But, I can’t help but wonder how effective he’d be if he played the clean game that Lidstrom plays. Also, like Fran, I am biased by an extreme dislike of him which started the year Anaheim won the Cup. I have to admit that I got a warm fuzzy because he was on the losing side of the Cup finals this year. One of the dirtiest players in the entire league.

  122. cwgatti-

    “Funny how NYR miss the playoffs the year Avery isn’t in the lineup down the stretch.”

    The Rangers went 5-2 down the stretch once Avery went out.

  123. side show sean on

    sean had a terrible season and it was solely his own fault. selfish and focus is on off ice activities. the sooner his contract ends the better

    Daniel J.
    July 9th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
    I believe Avery could be an important and vital part of this team. I think there are issues between Avery and some teammates and possibly Torts as well.

    He’s a tremendous skater, physical and energentic. When fully engaged he can be a game changer, whether it’s getting an opponent off his game or creating open ice and scoring opportunities in the offensive zone. I think he disappeared last year when he saw this team going nowhere because of a lack of consistent effort from teammates. I think there are issues in the Ranger locker room that remain unresolved. This is the cause of lack of team chemistry, sticking up for each other and the inconsistent team play. Avery strikes me as a heart and soul guy who’s a better player when he’s part of a TEAM, something sorely lacking with the Rangers.

  124. side show sean on

    and they had a great record down the stretch without sideshow sean

    cwgatti
    July 9th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
    Doodie,

    Funny how NYR miss the playoffs the year Avery isn’t in the lineup down the stretch

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