Four down, at least two to go


So anybody who picked Flyers in 4 or 5, or Chicago in 4 or 5, is out of the inaugural Boneheads Stanley Cup Finals Extravaganza Contest (and picnic) No. 1.

You can identify yourselves if you’re out or in, if you choose to do so.

I’m off for a lacrosse triple-header.

Here are some post-Game 4 notes from the NHL:

The Flyers ran their home winning streak at Wachovia Center to seven games and improved their League-best home record in the 2010 playoffs to 9-1. They went 2-0 against New Jersey in the Eastern Conference Quarterfinal, 2-1 vs. Boston in the Conference Semifinal, 3-0 vs. Montreal in the Conference Final and are 2-0 against Chicago in the Stanley Cup Final.

In six home starts, Flyers goaltender Michael Leighton is 6-0 with two shutouts, a 1.48 goals-against average and .949 save percentage, stopping 169 of 178 shots.

There have been 29 goals scored in this series (Philadelphia 15, Chicago 14), the most through the first four games of the Stanley Cup Final since 1981 when the New York Islanders and Minnesota North Stars combined for 36 in the first four games of the Isles’ five-game series win.

Home clubs are 4-0 in the Stanley Cup Final for the second consecutive season. In 2009, the home teams won the first six games before the visiting Pittsburgh Penguins defeated the Detroit Red Wings in Game 7. In the 20 years prior to 2009, the home team won the first four games just once, in 2003 (New Jersey Devils, Anaheim Ducks).

Flyers defenseman Chris Pronger did not record any points in Game 4 but was on the ice for all five Flyer goals and finished the game with a +4 rating, six hits and three blocked shots in 27:51 of ice time. It marked the third time this series that Pronger has registered a +2 rating or better. He was +2 in Game 1 (6-5 loss) and +2 in Game 3 (4-3 OT win).

The Blackhawks have lost consecutive games for the first time in the 2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs. They had been 4-0 and outscored their opponents 14-3 following a loss entering Game 4 of the Final.

The Flyers scored their fifth power-play goal of the series on Mike Richards’ unassisted tally at 4:35 of the first period. They have scored at least one goal with the man advantage in each of the four Stanley Cup Final games and are 5 for 16 (31.3%).

Highest Power-Play Percentage in Final Since 1988

Team        Year        PPG        PPA        PCT
Edmonton Oilers        1988        8        25        32.0
Pittsburgh Penguins        2009        4        14        28.6
Calgary Flames        2004        6        24        25.0
Pittsburgh Penguins        1992        4        16        25.0
Colorado Avalanche        1996        4        16        25.0

The attendance at Game 4 was 20,304, the largest hockey crowd ever at the Wachovia Center and the largest crowd in the state of Pennsylvania to see an NHL game. The Flyers also surpassed the 1-million mark in attendance for just the second time in franchise history. During the regular season, 800,966 fans attended 41 home games (an average of 19,536 per game), while 199,406 fans have attended 10 home games during the Stanley Cup Playoffs, bringing the total to 1,000,372.

Ed. Note: That Pa. record will be broken next Jan.1 when Sidney Crosby (featuring the Pittsburgh Penguins) plays Alex Ovechkin.

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  1. wicky (ILB says stay thirsty my friends!!) on

    Of course!!! No worries carp, i still love ya!

    Here are all of my CARPED reposts:

    morning folks!!
    at least one one game respite from that dumbass song!!!
    Once again, I agree with you on the R and R/Volchenkov debate.
    Hey, speaking of Disney, did you guys hear that mickey and minnie mouse were getting a divorce?? yep, mickey said she was Byfugliening goofy!!!

    man, can’t under estimate the value of pronger, he is shutting the monster down!

    Tarasenko seems like a pretty decent prospect.

  2. Nobody had the first tiebreaker.

    2nd tiebreaker is Clinching game score.

    3rd tiebreaker is Stanley Cup winning goal.

  3. I have a great question for anybody willing to do the research. I would love to know the answer.

    Does any player in NHL history have more than 1 Stanley Cup winning goal?

    If so, who has the most Stanley Cup winning goals in their career?

    I know Mess got the 1994 SCW goal and has 4 other Cups, IIRC.

  4. wicky (ILB says stay thirsty my friends!!) on

    actually, I’m not sure if it is or not, I was just guessing!

  5. overtime gwg in playoffs
    sakic had 8
    richard had 6
    mr clutch had 5

    our own captain clutch has 17 playoff gwg. he is tied with mr clutch atm.
    brett hull and gretzky have 24

  6. that’s right! it was brian noonan. I would love to see someone attempt to confront messier about that!

    Also: Flyers in 7! I had hawks winning game one 5-2 (which they won 6-5) I also have the flyers winning game 7 5-3 (Which they did last night. That should count for something right?!)

    The last time I checked, am I one of a few people who picked this? Did anyone make a list of the picks?! I would love to see it!

  7. it was noonan. but mess was close enough, and his stick was in the general vicinity of the puck. it shouldve been changed, but its like one of those goals that players deserve. i forgot who said it, maybe edzo, but they said “this guy really deserves a goal”. its carcillo but its messier

  8. meant to say, it was brian noonan who DESERVED that goal, not messier. mtteau had his glory, and mess would still be just as big a hero so to me it doesnt make sense to cheat noonan but its messier, he’ll kick your ass if u confront him about it, even if its 16 years later, . although without everyone on that ranger team playing so well, we wouldnt have won squat. noonan did deserve the glory though.

  9. Hey Heads!
    Just stopping in to say hello. Watched the game for a little while and had to turn it off. What happened to the Hawks??? Hopefully they can turn it around.
    Free ice cream at Friendly’s today!

  10. Game 7 vs Canucks … Messier, Noonan and Graves all swiped at the loose puck and it went in. Lots of people think it was Noonan. Some think it was Graves — who won’t ever take credit for it. Officially it was credited to Messier.

    Those are two different contests, ‘Heads. one, series prediction, with clinching game score and first game score as tiebreakers. two, Cup-winning goal. Geez, short memories. You guys are getting like me.

  11. does anyone think this series feels like the devils vs ducks series? I mean, the momentum shifted just as much in that series as it is now in this series. Wasn’t it like 2 days ago everyone was praising the hawks?! I am sure on Sunday we will be hearing the praise tune after they win game 5!

  12. don’t have time to do the complete research … I’ll post the whole list later or tomorrow … but Bossy had two Cup-winning goals; Bobby Orr had two; Jacques Lemaire had two; Henri Richard had at least two. I think Jean Beliveau had at least two.

    Pretty sure Bossy was the last.

  13. john mcintyre (vancouver #15) swipes @ it w/ his hand
    graves is swinging his stick towards the net
    messier is swinging his stick towards center ice

  14. Had Hawks in 6 – still in there!

    Also had Ladd scoring the series clenching goal, he came back from injury yesterday and looked good!

  15. I’m outer than CR9’s more flamboyant brother. I have more confidence in my pick of Hossa for the Cup-winning goal though – he’s playing better than any of the Hawks’ top line.

  16. CR9
    June 5th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
    I have a great question for anybody willing to do the research. I would love to know the answer.

    Does any player in NHL history have more than 1 Stanley Cup winning goal?

    If so, who has the most Stanley Cup winning goals in their career?

    I know Mess got the 1994 SCW goal and has 4 other Cups, IIRC.

    TRY 5 OTHER CUPS not 4

  17. but anyway, holy cow, whats your real name on here? i got a trivia questionb for ya. wait for it, here it comes. ready? ok? who gives a byfuglien?

  18. unfortunately i was not in the contest to begin with. But I like grabbys idea!

  19. I’m still in it. Hawks in 7, but my first game score was way off. We’ll see.

    Why do you think Pronger has no playoff beard? Maybe it would come in gray or maybe it’s creepy and flesh colored?

  20. Thanks mike! Sorry, holy cow. My mistake!

    For those of you looking to get their minds off the game (and the lineup) for a bit, check out this video of a 8-month-old baby born deaf hearing his mother’s voice for the first time:

    Caution: watching this video is guaranteed to put you in a better mood.

  21. Linda

    You automatically win the contest for being so AWESOME! And Clinton wins too for being AWESOME as well! You both win!

  22. i hate when posters come on here and change their names especially to prove a point that nobody really gives a carcillo about. wow, cr was 1 off. who cares, i hate that.

  23. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Im still in!!!! Of course I am. I picked Philly in 7 with Claude Giroix sealing the deal.

    Fran..Fran , Fran. I ment that the Flyers and us were BOTH underdogs to even make the playoffs. You can easily say they have better players ,coaches ,gm,la la la dee da . You saying we arent like the Flyers cuz they are way better talented or whatever..the Flyer have Firetrucking carp!! The Flyer Gm is just as lousy and dont you forget Fran that they were sucking off the bottom scum from the league a few years ago. To say the Flyer are way better than the Rangers is dumb because we all know it took 82 games and a shootout to eliminate us..the Flyers had 1 extra goal , big deal. All the New Jersey loving going on saying ” OHH the Rangers would have been swept by the Devils” THAT IS GARBAGE TALK too ( not you) but others defended NJ saying how “good” they are. When is our turn to get RESPECT.!!????

    Anyone who cant respect our boys for what they did never saw all 82 game like I did.

  24. mike – i really don’t care what you hate. i hate wrong information. since nobody corrected it by several hours later i did. this way others would know the truth.

    now go get ya shinebox

  25. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Saying NJ Devils would have beat us Rangers anyways is talk I never wanna hear again. Ive heard that last month and it still burns me.

  26. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Even better , yeah good call someone said Wash would beat us anyways. Yeah the moron who said that should go to the Golf course and get autographs from the Caps.

  27. shinebox? ouch that hurt. u got me man. im sure everyone on this blog is so happy for u correcting cr. what would we do without u. thanks holy cow. im sure messier is gonna call u personally to thank u for confirming the facts about his winning 6 instead of 5 stanley cups.

  28. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Oh btw Hi guysMike ,Linda,cr9….Tony ,GOOD JOB on being first!!! Yer dam shirt !!!!

  29. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Oh yeah Olga , Ya looked like a tool saying that garbage about Messier the other day. Have some respect. Carp , I know its a free blog and such but to have this guy named Olga telling us how bald and old Messier is and basicly called him down on this blog!!! Messier lead us to a cup , what the ‘el have you ever done Olga?

  30. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Not too well Mike ty. Im really sick of the non loyalty on here and im looking to rip a new arseinial hall at the next goof who talks trash on here.

  31. mike

    also theres a really good movie on msg right now.
    the boys on the bus
    check it out

  32. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Yeah TR , I have that movie on Beta !!! Boys on the bus was a must see when I was younger!!!

  33. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Yeah Mike , He did get 6 cups. Two as a captain. I just didnt like the refrence regarding him thats all. Its a frickin Rangers blog , since when is it cool to berate yer past stars?

  34. its not cool. but whats even worse is when u start to idolize players. hyes old, and bald. nothin wrong with that. my dads old, kinda bald. but hes still the best!!

  35. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Id cry too if I was him. The guy is so passionate he oozes Pride ,Loyaty and dedication. He crys alot ,yeah ..he does but he also has the biggest heart . He cares so much . He would do anything to win . Mark Messier could also kick the snot outta have the players he played with. You tell Messier he cries too much , I bet no one has the courage. We NEED Mark Messier . Period.

  36. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Good point , Old bald guys cant be that bad…

  37. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Like in a Rocky Movie , The Flyers (Rocky Balboa) go up against an unbeatable Russian in Ivan Drago (Chicago).

    I feel like im the Russian fans in Moscow rooting on Ivan Drago to beat the hated American ( Rocky/Chicago). As I see Rocky get pounded I cheer loud and I am ready to see the Flyers get beat up and fall down. The Flyers Fall ( so did Rocky) but they get back up!!! Pounding back!!!! Rocky ,Striking back , The Flyers scoring!!! How can this mear underdog even compete? I watch as the much hated Rocky (Flyers) fight back and never give up. The woman singing with Kate Smith on the screen and the tides have turned…Like the Russian fans that day I too started too , to cheer for the hated. How can this sad sack team over come such an obstacle? As the Flyers come back and win as Rocky did , we appreciate the passion and sheer determinating in beating such a foe. Wasnt Chicago suspose to cake walk the Flyers? Yeah so Was Ivan Drago!!

  38. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Thought Id pan out a senerio for ya mikey!!!

  39. im speechless greg. that was… that was so touching!!. it moved me. it made me move from the computer to the bathroom to relieve myself!! how can u cher on the philthy?????

  40. caus he doesn’t live in new york so philthy fans won’t bug him like they will those who live much closer

  41. caus(e)- thats a very good reason. but greg has been a ranger fan for quite awhile. u shouldve seen his reaction after we lost to them in the SO. he was still goin about it 2-3 weelks after!! i know greg hates philly just as much as i, or most ranger fans. but yes, ur right in teh sense that he doesnt live near ny or philly, so he dosnt get the rivalry on the same level as others

  42. wicky (ILB says stay thirsty my friends!!) on

    I agree with zzzzzzz and his post at around 1900. This team at the end of the year was what it needed to be all season. The rangers at the end of the season would have done well had they made the playoffs. For the majority of the season this team lacked GUTS!!!!! Slats figured it out at the end of the season and added the right players in shelley and prust. If he continues to add guts and character in the positions we still need it at over the off season, this team will do well next year!

  43. You’re too right Wicky. I just hope that Shelley, Prust and AA aren’t our best line next season. Those cats played out of their mind and well above their pay grade to close the season out.

  44. Silent darkness creeps into your butt-hole
    and removes the poop and self-control
    the game that holds you captive has no doors
    burnin’ with determination
    to even up the score

    hearts on fire
    strong desire
    rages deep within
    hearts on fire
    fever’s rising high
    the moment of truth draws near

    time will not allow you to stand still, no
    only Redden breaks the heart and bends the will
    and things that give deep passions are your sword
    rules and regulations have no meaning anymore

    hearts on fire
    strong desire
    rages deep within
    hearts on fire
    fever’s rising high
    the moment of truth is here
    is here

    hearts on fire
    strong desire
    rages deep within
    hearts on fire
    fever’s rising high
    hearts on fire
    strong desire
    rages deep within

  45. ummumermmm…No..ummerm, maybe we can’t win..ummerum, maybe the only thing we can do is just take everything da Hawks got. ummerum..But to beat da Flyers, da Hawks gonna have to kill da Flyers, ummermm.. and to kill da Flyers..ummerum, he’s gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of da Flyers, and to do that, da Hawks gotta be willing to die themselveses, umerumm.. and I don’t know if da Hawks ready to do that. I don’t know..ummerum, I don’t know

    YO! Adrian!! Bake my jerkey pot pie!

  46. ZzZz NYR ZzZzllo " Flyers Suck !!! " … says Greg L. on

    Do I hate the Philthy Philadecrapia Flyers..yes. I really do.
    I may not live in NY but I have witnessed the hate . I talk to other people that live in Philadephia ( I dont really really know them but I always proudly say Im a Ranger fan, Always) Philadelphia has NOT won me over as a fan but I do believe Hockey is history ,Hockey is fate . Teams like Chicago will always have next year. The Flyers are never gonna get this far again. I cheer on the Flyers now cuz I want to see the team that took us out win it all and then I can say , we lost to the Stanley Cup champs..not that bad of a team were we? I cant handle losing game 82 in a shoot out …Ill never forget that , ever. Flyers better win cuz I want the memory to be worth it. If the Flyers lost out in the first round then all would have been for not . The winner or that game 82 wins the cup, would you have believed it a few months ago? I am PROUD to be a Ranger fan so what ever success the Flyers achieve doesnt bug me at all. I know us Rangers are a better team ,just on that day ( gm 82) the Flyers were.

  47. Once again we reflect on the longest day. As ever my heart goes out to the families of those who stormed those beaches..and remained there. What they did for us then, and what these pols are doing TO us now..which is the saddest?

    cccp…did you really sit with a dictionary and glean all that info word by word? If so, you must have long pointy eyeballs by now. It’s funny that English is a language that incorporates several other languages into it’s structure, effortlessly. We casually accept several Spanish words, and
    it’s loaded with French words ( which are promptly murdered in pronunciation.. Chase Lounge for Chaisse Longue chez long ( long chair) for example, also quite a few German words are very similar to the English. Latin too. Any Slavic words? Gawumpkie and Pierogy don’t count. btw the word that Dog sledders use to get their teams started “MUSH” is simply the way English speaking sledders heard the French Voyageurs yell MARCHE.

  48. Our wonderful GM finally broke his silence today and spoke to our uncle Larry. I can sum up the interview like this “we want to improve the team but I screwed up the cap so much I’m just going to bring back last years team and hope and pray someone from Hartford saves my ass” we do you all think of my assessment of the article!!

  49. onecupin70years on

    Why does larry brooks have to spoil the day and remind me that sather and dolan are still in charge ?
    The coming season will be no different than the past .

  50. Hawks in 5 i’m out. I want to puke but the series is dead even coinflip. Can u believe thoses sc*mbags in orange are 2 wins away. Blows my mind

  51. A quote from the Larry Brooks article that I find amusing: ”
    “A player’s contract isn’t going to get him a spot on the team if he doesn’t earn it, and that goes for everyone.”

    Didn’t he say something similar to that years ago? Wasn’t it something like if players didn’t perform that Hartford would have the highest paying roster in the AHL?

  52. Every summer Sather makes comments that are the complete rejection of his actions the summer before. Every summer he pretends that his signings had nothing to do with the problems. Don’t blame him for anything — that’s his mantra.

  53. carp

    i had flyers in 6 i might be the only one alive with that.

    i forgot what the score i had in game 6 was. how do i go back and look.

    however go hawks as no ranger fan can root for the flyers even it means losing out on the book.

  54. fran,
    it has been a while since we had this discussion, but I see that you just can’t get over it… are you OKAAYY?? Since you want to keep going, I have more to say too.

    For your information, the intelligentsia (do you have this concept in America? lol) & aristocrats of Russia have always intermingled closely with the Europeans; therefore, Russian language has adopted words from the numerous languages of the world (including the dead language of Latin), perhaps even more so than English did. I can think of hundreds French and Spanish words incorporated into Russian language effortlessly. Food staples like “olivie” and “bulyon” are French words just like your “chez long”. And chez long was a chair one would rent at the beach.

    I personally come from a diverse sea port (Black Sea) city, conquered by Turks at one point, settled by the French, and taken over by the Soviets. My city, Odessa, where travelers and merchants have come through and left their cultural influences behind, has a far more diverse and creative jargon than any of the Russian-speaking cities. The Odessa jargon, utilizes the rich Russian language laced with Ukrainian, Polish, Moldavian and very heavily influenced by Yiddish (due to a huge population of Jewish settlers).

    My city is similar to NYC. So at this of my life I have mastered the English language, sprinkled with Odessa jargon, which is a language in itself. Do you speak more than one language? Words incorporated in English from other languages don’t count! lol

    Btw, “pierogi” is not a Russian word. That is all I have for you for now. Feel free to get back to me anytime.

  55. “I can tell you one thing — we are certainly not going to overpay for free agents.” Glen Sather

    of course not, Glen… all of the overpaid free agents are on your team already!

  56. Good Late Sunday Morning Boneheads and others. I guess i should go and read the carp flying outta sathers piehole just to be up to date eh.

  57. sigh, more of the same bs lines from Yeti that we’ve been getting for the past 10 years. And oooooh he got tough with the puddin! WOW!

  58. LMAO, Linda.. I didn’t know who it was until I used my own link..I’m still learning iPad’s “copy and paste” feature

  59. Slats is such a bouche. You know that if he finds a way to get rid of one of Dreary, Blowzy, or Dredden, that money will go to the next big free agent who will not live up to the contract…Marleau, maybe???

    I seriously hate that guy. Rangers hockey will always be the same.

    Poor Hank. Getting older by years end. Soon, he will be as good as Theodure, and we’ll need a new goalie because he’s just too old, and depressed to stop the puck.


  60. Just skimming the posts after a while away…Sather has signed 5-time Stanley Cup winner Justin Bieber?!

  61. wicky (ILB says stay thirsty my friends!!) on

    I have two things to say.

    re the brooks article…Shelley is a very important part to this club, just like prust is. His attitude and character is exactly what this team needs. He is the anti-redden/jagr in the attitude and character department.

    Slats is an idiot if he does not trade for volchenkov’s rights prior to 01 July.

    Off to work….later folks!!

  62. Slats would be smart to not trade for his rights. There’s no way he’s signing here anyway. The guy wants to win a Cup, ha.

    I don’t want him here anyway. I don’t want anyone here except prospects.

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