Comments on: The aftermath http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/ News and insight about the New York Rangers by Rick Carpiniello Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:40:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Izzy Mandlebaum http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-290204 Izzy Mandlebaum Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:58:10 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-290204 last last

]]> By: NewYorqker http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-289025 NewYorqker Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:08:04 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-289025 Some of the goals were scored from the outside... Some of the goals were scored from the outside…

]]> By: Doodie Machetto http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288798 Doodie Machetto Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:52:42 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288798 CT, actually, I think the Kings would jump at a deal for Lundqvist. Bernier and Quick are both OK, but neither of them is or will be a world beater. But it's for that same reason a trade to LA wouldn't work. It's not worth trading LQ unless you are getting a blue chip goaltending prospect as part of the return. Really, the only teams I think a deal might work with are the Blues, the Caps, the Bruins, the Blackhawks, and the Predators. Not that one would ever be made. Just saying those are the only possible dance partners. Detroit, Ottawa, and Montreal seem to have the goaltending chops, but don't have the prospects to make the deal work. Minnesota has Harding, but they wouldn't want Henrik since they have Backstrom too. CT, actually, I think the Kings would jump at a deal for Lundqvist. Bernier and Quick are both OK, but neither of them is or will be a world beater. But it’s for that same reason a trade to LA wouldn’t work. It’s not worth trading LQ unless you are getting a blue chip goaltending prospect as part of the return.

Really, the only teams I think a deal might work with are the Blues, the Caps, the Bruins, the Blackhawks, and the Predators.

Not that one would ever be made. Just saying those are the only possible dance partners. Detroit, Ottawa, and Montreal seem to have the goaltending chops, but don’t have the prospects to make the deal work. Minnesota has Harding, but they wouldn’t want Henrik since they have Backstrom too.

]]> By: scott http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288797 scott Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:51:46 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288797 Doodie - Absolutely right, bad teams do not win the Cup and this is a bad team. Greg - You are misunderstanding the point. This team can't win and hoping to improve for the future is not a bad thing or make anyone a fair weather fan. I would rather move up a few spots in the draft than fantasize on how we can avoid a whipping from the Caps in the first round. There is too much anything that needs to happen in the playoffs to reasonably think that anything can happen for this team. And that much anything can happen has never happened for the Rangers in the 40+ years I have been following them. Doodie – Absolutely right, bad teams do not win the Cup and this is a bad team.

Greg – You are misunderstanding the point. This team can’t win and hoping to improve for the future is not a bad thing or make anyone a fair weather fan. I would rather move up a few spots in the draft than fantasize on how we can avoid a whipping from the Caps in the first round.

There is too much anything that needs to happen in the playoffs to reasonably think that anything can happen for this team. And that much anything can happen has never happened for the Rangers in the 40+ years I have been following them.

]]> By: Carp http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288795 Carp Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:49:57 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288795 new post. new post.

]]> By: ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Tank Hank?!!! " … says Greg L. http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288794 ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Tank Hank?!!! " … says Greg L. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:47:53 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288794 BTW the Devils suck , we had won the cup in '94 and if it wasnt for that stuiped shorten season , we would have captured it again , even with out Keenen . Rangers got shafted in 1995. BTW the Devils suck , we had won the cup in ‘94 and if it wasnt for that stuiped shorten season , we would have captured it again , even with out Keenen . Rangers got shafted in 1995.

]]> By: ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Tank Hank?!!! " … says Greg L. http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288793 ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Tank Hank?!!! " … says Greg L. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:45:45 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288793 Doodie, What is the main ingredient for winning the stanley Cup? What position has carried his team and won the CONN SMYTHE even when his team has lost the cup ? Doodie,
What is the main ingredient for winning the stanley Cup? What position has carried his team and won the CONN SMYTHE even when his team has lost the cup ?

]]> By: Doodie Machetto http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288792 Doodie Machetto Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:40:12 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288792 Greg: there is something that can't happen. They can't win the cup. Worst team that ever won the cup was the 9th over Devils in 95. That was a team that had missed the cup finals the past year by two double OT losses. Bottom line is bad teams don't win the cup. Period. And make no mistakes about it: this is a bad team. Greg: there is something that can’t happen. They can’t win the cup. Worst team that ever won the cup was the 9th over Devils in 95. That was a team that had missed the cup finals the past year by two double OT losses.

Bottom line is bad teams don’t win the cup. Period. And make no mistakes about it: this is a bad team.

]]> By: CTBlueshirt http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288791 CTBlueshirt Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:38:13 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288791 Greg, the Kings have two decent goalies on their team already in Quick and Bernier. They don't need Lundqvist. If anything they're in a better position to trade on their goalies than almost any other team in the NHL. I don't think they need a whole lot to start challenging the heavyweights in the West for years to come. The entire league knows that Lundqvist is the biggest reason why the Rangers aren't dead last in the league. His stock would drop if his GAA shot up by 0.50 GAA or his save percentage dropped a number of points. Any GM would realize that the Rangers record is indicative of the team that plays in front of Lundqvist, not the player himself. Greg, the Kings have two decent goalies on their team already in Quick and Bernier. They don’t need Lundqvist. If anything they’re in a better position to trade on their goalies than almost any other team in the NHL. I don’t think they need a whole lot to start challenging the heavyweights in the West for years to come.

The entire league knows that Lundqvist is the biggest reason why the Rangers aren’t dead last in the league. His stock would drop if his GAA shot up by 0.50 GAA or his save percentage dropped a number of points.

Any GM would realize that the Rangers record is indicative of the team that plays in front of Lundqvist, not the player himself.

]]> By: Doodie Machetto http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2010/03/11/the-aftermath/#comment-288790 Doodie Machetto Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:35:22 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=6907#comment-288790 No, I'm putting in my two weeks. But it's awfully hard to be motivated to do work when there's no fear of being fired. Grabachev, that's why I said Varlamov had to be included in those deals. He's about as solid as a goaltending prospect can be. He should pan out to be a very good goaltender. Trades 2 and 3 basically have the blueprint to rebuild our defensive corps very quickly while giving us a boost at forward. I should have been clear that the Morrison I was talking about was Shoane, not Brendan. Trade 2 brings Fehr, a solid, young, power forward, Morrison, a steady 2nd pairing defenseman with good size, Carlson/Alzner, blue chip defensive prospects who are almost NHL ready, and a first rounder. Trade 3 brings Laich or Fleishman, a quick offensive boost, Schultz, who is huge and could be a monster, the first rounder, and either the top defensive prospects, or a solid offensive prospect and another pick. Trade 1 is a straight up: better goaltender-lesser center for better center-lesser goaltender. No, I’m putting in my two weeks. But it’s awfully hard to be motivated to do work when there’s no fear of being fired.

Grabachev, that’s why I said Varlamov had to be included in those deals. He’s about as solid as a goaltending prospect can be. He should pan out to be a very good goaltender.

Trades 2 and 3 basically have the blueprint to rebuild our defensive corps very quickly while giving us a boost at forward.

I should have been clear that the Morrison I was talking about was Shoane, not Brendan.

Trade 2 brings Fehr, a solid, young, power forward, Morrison, a steady 2nd pairing defenseman with good size, Carlson/Alzner, blue chip defensive prospects who are almost NHL ready, and a first rounder.

Trade 3 brings Laich or Fleishman, a quick offensive boost, Schultz, who is huge and could be a monster, the first rounder, and either the top defensive prospects, or a solid offensive prospect and another pick.

Trade 1 is a straight up: better goaltender-lesser center for better center-lesser goaltender.

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