Life without Drury, Dubinsky

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So the Rangers think they’ve got enough NHL players to play without two of their top three centers? We’ll see. This is the first game without Chris Drury and Brandon Dubinsky, and I want to see how this is going to work.

That will probably be the column I write after the game.

Here’s your game thread. I’ll see you in the comments.

Please don’t feed the trolls. Have fun.

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Oh, my bad. Looks like Kovalchuk’s in.

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282 Comments

  1. Almost impossible to score against Lundqvist? Challenging his pads on the ice, yes; high glove side, not quite.

  2. It’s nice to finally be able to sit down for 2 1/2 hours and watch our Rangers…hopefully it will be an enjoyable 2 1/2 hrs

  3. Man, first time ever I got Carped! Probably just as well. I can’t seem to type today….listen to blogfather. Make like you’re at the zoo (which you kind of are :) and pay attention to the signs: “Please don’t feed the animals.”

    And I’ve never said this before, but yay Izzy! You’ve been dragging man….:)

  4. I love listening to the radio broadcasts. They keep saying it like it is. Calling out the Refs, calling out Rosi for being a statue…

  5. Ok, how the heck was that not a penalty? The NHL seriously needs to get their act together, the refs have been missing some seriously dangerous plays like that a lot lately.

  6. i like that response. thought it was funny that he checked if there was a penalty called first

  7. How the hell did Avery get a penalty for a slight hit from behind but that wasn’t a penalty against Cally?
    These officials SUCK!

  8. Was there a pre-game ceremony for Brashear’s 1000th game? I’m guessing it might not have gone down too well with the crowd if they attempted it…

  9. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    I think opposing teams have hit Lundqvist about 8 times and Higgins has demolished him about 4 or 5 now. Must stop them both.

  10. HockeymanRangers on

    These guys have to learn when Aves is working the bds behind the net, they need to be ready out in front. He gets the puck out in front A LOT. sticks down boyz, sticks down.

  11. HockeyMan,id like to see Avery saucer some of those passes,but yeah he does find that gap,just bulletpasses it a little

  12. I just got in… first thing I saw was that call on Staal. WTF the ref was right there, how was that hooking when Kovy purposely turned himself around. GRRRRR

  13. why was kovalchuk left alone on that wide open slapshot from the circle? nice stickhandling by gabby.

  14. I missed the first goal but Henrik is on FIRE. Boyle has no discipline with his stick. cheap ass penalty.

    Thrashers could’ve had a lot more goals that I saw.

    We’re gonna need a few more goals to win this game.

  15. Brashear did ok with the helmet, I thought. He is out for 8 games or so… Good for Cally. The guy was much bigger.

  16. TR and ilb, I learned a long time ago, at least from my perspective, that 100 section seats aren’t always great for hockey. I’m going old school here, so maybe everyone won’t get this, but in my day, the green seats were best. Low greens, of course….man, I had center-ice low greens with a friend a long time ago. Sweet days!

    P.S. I forget who, but someone here remembers the colors cause he referred to blue seats, but then agaim that’s just classic. Back to TV…

  17. IMO…best seats at MSG are directly behind the goal NYR shoot twice at in the 400s, either Row A or B. You can lean forward to see behind the net, you have a whole view of the ice and its high enough where you can see everything at the other end

  18. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's go Ranger's Powerplay!!!!"... says Greg L. on

    Great skating ,awsome chances on both ends and wide open plays …great hockey !!! Hank is playing like a star , Gaborik is flying ….even Atlanta’s Kovachuk ,Antro and Afinagenov are exciting to watch as well. Teams like New Jersey should take note…this is how you get fans !!! Playing exciting hockey , get fans outta there seats !!!

  19. Laurel,

    Yep, my father had season tickets for a loooooooooooong time section 318, Row A, seat 4 & 5 for the longest time…Until Messier wasnt re-signed. Crazy though, in 94 – the tickets that were available were for Game 5 & 7 because we shared them with one other person. I said to him (& I remember it like it was yesterday) “this series isnt gonna go 7 games, game 5 they are winning it” DOH!!!! LOL

  20. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's go Ranger's Powerplay!!!!"... says Greg L. on

    RANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Go boys go get ’em!!!

  21. NYR, that’s the key though, seeing from both ends, and in the corners…I always thought the reds had the best deal until I sat in them….definitely an experience, but can suck in the corner.

    As for 400s…been there too. Too far away for me, but nuthin beats being in the building!

  22. they(msg) try to make it seem like not having true centers matters little,we need someone that can win faceoffs well, BADLY.

  23. Laurel…corners do suck…the 300s in MSG are probably the best bet economically because they’re not even that much higher than the 100s

  24. this is exactly what i’ve been saying since July 1. Boulton hits Gaborik. Prospal answers to whatever degree. Next time Boulton’s on the ice, Brashear is out there too. Nothing. Not a peep.

    His presence prevents nothing.

  25. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “Great play by Rozival”

    You don’t hear that very often…

    Yeah, like “Hand me that piano” or “Please saw my legs off”.

  26. Olga Folkyerself on

    Carp- If Boulton goes after Gaborik, the response should be for Brashear to go after Kovalchuk. Brashear going after Boulton solves nothing except to get Brashear an extra 2.

    If you want to worry an opposing coach, have him watch Brashear crush his top scorer.

  27. Boulton was doing his “other” job by bumping Gabby,and yeah they cancel each other out,Brash and him,
    depending on who out goons the other.

  28. wicky229(take the "A" from cally and give it to sally!) on

    So I just got home and the game is on the dvr so I am not reding any provious quotes (no spoilers for me), but I would like to say that i still think hedberg should be hank’s back up and i like the way colby armstrong plays.

    LGR!!!!

  29. Boyle with more undisciplined play. Hebelongs on the fifth line.

    Henrik should fined every time he leaves the crease or does something besides freeze the puck

  30. Olga Folkyerself on

    Boobirds at MSG. I wouldn’t do it, but can you blame them? They can’t beat a 12th place team…

  31. What happened? Atlanta is playing like the Rangers used to play at the beginning of the season.

  32. Well it seems like we know where this team is going to be hurt with Dru and Dubi out of the lineup…defense

  33. hey can the rangers get a few more stupid penalties!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    most penalized team in the league..

    avery has been invisible this year.. had a breakaway in the first did not even get a shot off…

    ugly ugly performance again… ride gaborik until he gets hurt, he is the only legit scorer on the team…

    again give avery some grief knowitalls… he has done squat this year………yea, boyle is better then drury i can see it with all you talent evaluators……

  34. This has been an awful game all around to watch. Atlanta may be winning, but they are not playing that much better than us. It has been a slop fest since the first drop of the puck. Really ugly ugly hockey tonight folks. It will be interesting to see what happens in the 3rd. I have my barf bag ready though.

  35. stuart

    You CANT blame Avery. Torts holds his strings it was said publicly…

    “ride gaborik until he gets hurt” Yes, because THAT makes complete, logical sense.

    The refs SUCK this game 2 HORRIBLE calls.

  36. You could see glimpses of the old Avery in the early parts of the 1st period but after he had that penalty he went back to the Avery of this season…he’s just not effective if he’s not himself

  37. HockeymanRangers on

    This is where Henrik needs to step it up, if there is another notch. But I mean with so many break aways this is where he could be better. Not sure if anyone noticed but this is not Tom Renny hockey LOL.

  38. They are talking JD with Sam,i was to young to watch him play,but i grew up loving his color work,he was the real voice of the rangers for me.

  39. carp
    i see you down there!
    turn around and say hello.
    2nd row in 118.

    ily
    i would say scream or something. im not wearin a blue jays hat this time, lol.

    and wow does the 3g coverage suck here.

  40. Could you imagine if Sather was not able to move Gomez to bring in Gaborik? I think they would average about 0.5 goals per game, no maybe 0.7…lol. Seriously, it would be brutal to watch.

  41. Henrik has made some great saves, but he gets beat easy high, and he should have let the D man have the puck, big mistake caused a goal.

  42. Oh come ON. That’s such carp, there wasn’t any embellishment on that at all. Garbage. These refs are just awful.

  43. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's go Ranger's Powerplay!!!!"... says Greg L. on

    absolute garbage call on Delzotto!!!!!!!!!! sickens my stomach!!!!

  44. Love Tort’s response on the Del Zotto call – lip reading: “You made it?(the call) That’s an awful f’ing call.”

  45. I cannot believe that the sick scumbag refs just cheated us.

    I never understand why I am surprised, yet, here again, I find myself surprised.

    This is when American sports fans needs to be like European Football fans. Rick, can you manage to get the home addresses of these refs? Just some nice harassment or empty threats. Love to strike fear in these scumbags for their corrupt practices.

  46. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

  47. Olga Folkyerself on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

  48. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

  49. Is Hedberg even any good? I’d like to see this bum Hedberg even try against the Bruins. I’m pretty sure I might be waiting an eternity to see that, though.

  50. Atlanta is better than the Rangers. Younger players are better, and vets are better. Bogasian is what we all hoped Marc( Mr, Whipple) Staal would be.

  51. Olga Folkyerself on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

  52. Wow, the Panthers actually won in SO over the Bruins.

    Nice effort by the Penguins the other night getting shut out.

    I guess the Penguins were not motivated, as the Bruins were not wearing Rangers jerseys.

  53. I hate to insult our players, but Marc Staal is just not even worth a spittle, offensively.

    Maybe he can get better both def. and off. Only time will tell.

    Maybe we can dump him for Koval. if our salary cap could somehow allow it.

  54. the only positive is that we know if dreary or dubinsky were on the ice the game probably wouldnt have ended up different

    can we please dump rosival and drury and pay the 1/3 of their combined salaries? It is so much better than watching them dog it for full price

  55. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

  56. Wow. Penalties and turnovers will lead to goals scored. Lundqvist is worse at playing the puck than Richter. At least they made a game out of it Hedberg stood on his head and got some lucky bounces. That’s the game of hockey.

    Carp, Tampa is listing Hedman’s injury as:

    Injury note Day-to-Day as of Nov 5, 2009 (Undisclosed injury)

    WE KNOW IT’S HIS BRAIN THAT IS INJURED! WHY MISLEAD US FANS THOSE MONSTERS!

  57. I would take Kovalchuk every time over Dubinsky, Callahan, Animismov, Kotallik, etc.etc etc…did I forget someone..

    shed, Drurys, Redden, Roszival salaries, and acquire him

  58. Lundqvist got outplayed in Vancouver and he got outplayed by Hedberg. And Avery is playing poorly. And so is Higgins. Why are they on the ice at the end of the game?

  59. I seriously get sick to my stomach every time I hear that stupid Blues Traveler song following a Rangers or Giants lose.

  60. Even with Drury, and Dubinsky, the Rangers badly need a number 1 center. That and a defencemen who is willing to hit somebody with anger.

  61. I thought Avery was better than he has been. None of his passes connected but his forecheck looked okay.

  62. “That and a defencemen who is willing to hit somebody with anger.”

    DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!

  63. kc,
    you are right on about Avery, and Higgins. They have given nothing this season. I’m not ready to run Hank out of town yet, though.

  64. When Gaborik or Prospal are not involved, nothing happens on the ice..

    Cant even rember the last time time when Avery, Callahan, Lisin had a goal..

  65. It is time to see what you can get for Staal. There is no softer number 1 Dmen in the league. Trade him before the rest of the league realizes.

  66. Tortorella transformed Avery in a useless weapons..

    He is not able to spark the Rangers anymore because he is not allowed to do it any more, what he did before his agitatong something extrordinary to bring opponents out of their rhytm..

  67. The fact is, this team has some talent, but unfortunately, some of the others just take so much away from the rest of the team.

    I cant believe we’d rather have signed Rozi and Redden than Jaromir. NO SENSE..

  68. koala

    Last time I checked, it wasnt Torts that prevented Avery, it was the corrupt NHL and their corrupt anti-NY referees.

    They instituted a rule during the playoffs, just like that, a snap of the fingers, and the message “screw new york as we please” came shining through.

    Avery is a product of getting cheated by referees.

  69. CR9,
    Avery created his own mess. does he have calls go against him , that other guys don’t, yes. but he caused that himself.

  70. Grab, after my mind you dont need to watch the replay..
    for the most part Rangers got outplayed especially during the first two periods by a young motivated Thrashers team led by Kovalchuk…

    Only in the final period the Rangers poured it on a little by the total of shots but overall you can recognize, that the fire that Tortorella set up on under the butts of the Rangers is just barely burning now…

  71. Olga Folkyerself on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

  72. I think Avery had a better game today. He was trying to make things happen, though bounces aren’t going his way, passes aren’t connecting, puck is on edge with him, etc. Still, he isn’t doing the trash-talking and agitating that we came to love him for and that made him so effective. I hope that that Avery comes back…

  73. bull dog line

    you’re right. he caused calls to go against him, therefore changing his style of play, because “referees have the right to cheat whomever they choose to cheat”. Bite me.

    And, what nobody is aware of, his problems rose exponentially when he came to the Rangers. If he had gone to the Bruins, he would be hailed by the NHL as a God. He just happened to come to New York, wear the wrong jersey, and proclaim to love NY too much.

    I bet if Avery goes out for the rest of the season wearing a Bruins jersey, he might be revered by the referees as opposed to being cr*pped on.

  74. The first 2 periods were the worst defensively I think since last year in Dallas. Atlanta could have had 8 or 9 goals. This safe is death crap isn’t gonna work with this bunch.

    Send Rozsival to Hartford. Or better yet, Siberia. Why the hell is he out there on the PP or late on when we need a goal? He handles the puck like it’s a hand grenade.

  75. torts sucks. sry to say id rather score less goals and win than get beat all the damn time. torts got his game breaker in gabby. hes got hank!!! well, hanks been cruddy lately but, hes still one of the best. hes got his 2 offensively gifted d men. hes got the big point shot and qb for the pp. what does torts need to get this team to play hard all 3 effin periods and win???? freakin fire him sather,sully, whatever he does besides watch red sox baseball with torts. bring keenan back. anybody that can utilize the one of the best forwards in the game and one of the best goalies. it is sooo frustrating being a ranger fan.

  76. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

  77. I say instead of our guys wearing Rangers jerseys, we go out there and wear Bruins jerseys.

    We’re sure not to get screwed on diving penalties. We’re sure to get the benefit of referee calls.

  78. Avery has always had a problem with bringing a play offsides. So now he seems to be slowing down and still ruins the play. Higgins just seems to have no idea what to do.
    Lundqvist will be fine, but he definitely seemed rusty tonight — he usually waits until mid-December for his annual 6 week doldrums.
    But Anisimov was good.

  79. Olga Folkyerself on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

    blow doughnuts

  80. CR9, come on get real man. We lost because we played pee-wee defense in the first 2. Not because of…well I have no idea what the Bruins have to do with anything. I’ve never seen them get any more calls than we do in all honesty.

  81. erysucks worse than srury. if hes not runnin his mouth hes freakin useless. at least drury has some redeeming qualities. yes they are few, but what has avery done for this team this year?? scored 2 goals in his 1st game and thats it. at least voros will fight and stick up for his team. is torts too hard on these guys or they dont respect him? just cuz youre a loudmouth and
    “tough guy” with the big mean reporters like giannone. ohh wow torts, u really scare those diminutive reporters. just cuz u talk big, doesnt mean squat. ok im done ranting. im guessing stal did one of his patented neutral zone turnovers? hes a big puss. have him work on hitting and being a crease clearer. if torts is gonna rely on marc staal for offense, whats that say about the rest of the team

  82. onecupin69yearsand counting on

    yeah Drury and duninski would have a made a huge difference, the score would have been the same.

  83. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

    blow doughnuts

    technicolor yawn.

  84. Shoryuken on Wade Redden

    Of course we lost tonight because our loser Dmen are just that, losers.

    But, lest you not forget, we got cheated at least twice in the 3rd period, cheated blatantly by the referees, and also cheated on that illegal hit on Callahan in the first period.

    Defense + anti-NY referees = loss tonight vs. Thrashers.

    I was just talking about the lack of edge shown by Avery and the lack of Avery-like play this season. Torts has to keep Avery in line because the NHL is out to screw him. They are out to screw him because he dared to wear the Rangers jersey a few years ago and seemed to love wearing it.

  85. kc- hank has no excuse to go thru his annual slump midway thru the season. hes been average at best for his standards and if he cant play 65 games then he needs to start hittin the gym. i never heard of a goalie who goes thru a huge slump at the same time every year. hes got no excuse for that anymore. hes been in the league 4 years now and is in his prime. he isnt old enough to get that tired and worn out

  86. I guess sather had it right when he said Avery was a detriment to the team!!! haha sucks for you thats the only thing Sather managed to get right.

    1994 forever and ever and ever
    Pathetic organization forever and ever and ever!!!

  87. Izzy

    Hopefully, by blaming these putred corrupt referees. They screwed us out of what could have been a 5 minute major, what should have been a 5 on 3. These referees go about their business efficiently. They always pick key spots to cheat us, to “just miss that call”. Same ****, Different year.

  88. onecupin69yearsand counting on

    I don’t know why so many of you doubt the genius of sather and Dolan,look at the knicks.
    let’s be patient!
    It took 54 years to break the curse , we have time.

  89. Maybe I can’t relate since I’ve never traveled like these players do…but it seems like a lot of carp to use the coming off a long road trip excuse for this one, which torts did.

  90. should have stayed in bed at 1.17 local time instead of hanging around…

    That sums everything..now i cant sleep any more before going to work…

    Rangers make me sleepless..:)

  91. Olga Folkyerself on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

    blow doughnuts

    technicolor yawn.

    liquidate your assets

  92. Izzy Mandlebaum on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

    blow doughnuts

    technicolor yawn.

    liquidate your assets

    OK stringbean, it’s go time…

    Barf, earl, chunder, Buick, puke , retch, power boot, woof, spew.

  93. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    I could only watch half the game and the half I watched, Lundqvist stood on his head. He was great. The officiating, i’ll never figure out (someone posted a suspension flow chart here today and it’s pretty much dead on). Oh well… Later guys/gals/carps.

  94. Olga Folkyerself on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

    blow doughnuts

    technicolor yawn.

    liquidate your assets

    OK stringbean, it’s go time…

    Barf, earl, chunder, Buick, puke , retch, power boot, woof, spew.

    Lets take it up a notch… Hurl, Yuke, Vomit, puke your guts up, blow chunks, erupted, heave, regurgitate, upchuck, nauseous.

  95. Saw Duby at the game tonight. Tried to get an autograph but my pen didn’t have any ink. We both plain faced so I told him to feel better and walked away.

  96. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's go Ranger's Powerplay!!!!"... says Greg L. on

    “sickens my stomach!!!!”

    You gonna talk on the big white telephone?

    Drive the porcelain bus?

    Hugging John and Calling for Ralph?

    Screaming with Chunks?

    pray to the porcelain god.

    laugh at the carpet…

    Shout at your shoes.

    calling dragons.

    blow doughnuts

    technicolor yawn.

    liquidate your assets

    OK stringbean, it’s go time…

    Barf, earl, chunder, Buick, puke , retch, power boot, woof, spew.

    Talking to Ralphh!!!

  97. Lundqvist’s main problem is his concentration, not his talent. The goal at 7 seconds should have been stopped. He can make great saves, but so did Hedberg. Is Hedberg really better than Lundqvist? Don’t think so, but he outplayed him tonight.

  98. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's go Ranger's Powerplay!!!!"... says Greg L. on

    HAHAHAHA Thanks Olga and Izzy , I do feel better now :)

  99. ZzZz NYR ZzZz " Let's go Ranger's Powerplay!!!!"... says Greg L. on

    Mike in ia ,Grabs , Grabachev ..ease up , Don’t take the loss so hard…I know the team sucks at time and it is all Tort’s fault.

  100. Olga Folkyerself on

    Toss your cookies
    Blow foam
    Bulimic
    Disgorge
    Jettison Lunch

    Let’s call the whole thing off.

  101. I’m staying home next time. Our defense looks much better on DVR. Did anybody count odd- man situation they allowed tonight?

  102. Nessier
    November 12th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
    Maybe I can’t relate since I’ve never traveled like these players do…but it seems like a lot of carp to use the coming off a long road trip excuse for this one, which torts did
    *************************************

    ARE YOU SERIOUS!? did he really say that? After 4 days without a freakin game he complained about a long road trip? WOW, JUST WOW

  103. Yeah Linda he said it in the post game…Carp posted the quote on the new entry. He said it’s no excuse, but shouldn’t have even brought it up.

  104. Duh Hedberg outplayed him tonight it was a crazy game cuz Rangers did have mad penalties and turnovers but it came down to the D and goaltending.

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