The System (updated)

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The Rangers practiced today in Greenburgh, in preparation for back-to-back games this weekend. It was pretty intense, a lot of sprinting and pushups, with some line work at the end. That kind of workout seems to be assistant coach Jim Schoenfeld’s specialty.

Coach John Tortorella said having three days between the win in Montreal and Buffalo gives the team some time to work on film and continue getting into his “system,” which is I believe coach-speak for doing some kind of Vulcan-mind meld. It’s definitely code.

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Paul Mara said he has gotten a lot of feedback from people about the tempo of the games before the change in coaches. “It’s funny… there are some descriptions of it being pretty boring.” Mara said the team can feel the difference and it extends off the ice. He is very diplomatic, in his own words click below.

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The lines: Naslund-Drury-Antropov; Avery-Gomez-Zherdev, Sjostom-Dubinsky-Callahan, Korpikoski-Betts-Orr. Defensive pairings Morris-Redden, Mara-Rozsival, Girardi-Staal.

The win in Montreal seems to have energized the Rangers and, although Torts wouldn’t cop to looking beyond Saturday’s game, a few of the players said it was good to have those two points in hand with three home games coming up.

Carp is on his way to beautiful Troy, NY. He will be checking in from time to time, but I will be taking you through practice tomorrow and the weekend games.

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Don’t know what this means, if anything other than the Hartford Wolfpack has a new player, but the Rangers just signed an undrafted free agent:

Here’s the official release:

RANGERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH FORWARD PAUL CROWDER

       New York, March 19, 2009 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has agreed to terms with free agent forward Paul Crowder.

            Crowder, 24, skated in 35 games with the University of Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves of the Western Collegiate Hockey Association (WCHA) this season, registering 14 goals and 19 assists for 33 points, along with 44 penalty minutes.  He established career highs in goals (14), assists (19), points (33), and penalty minutes (44).  Crowder led the team in assists, points and shorthanded goals (two), tied for second on the club in goals and finished fourth in penalty minutes.  In addition, the Victoria, British Columbia native tied for first on the Seawolves with six power play goals, two game-winning goals and a plus-11 rating.

The 6-3, 202-pounder has skated in 107 career WCHA games with the University of Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves, recording 32 goals and 48 assists for 80 points, along with 80 penalty minutes.  In 2006-07, he tied for the team lead in goals (11), ranked second in points (24) and tied for third in assists (13) as a first-year player.  Prior to attending the University of Alaska-Anchorage, Crowder appeared in 119 British Columbia Hockey League (BCHL) contests over three seasons with the Powell River Kings, Coquitlam Express and Burnaby Express, registering 36 goals and 83 assists for 119 points, along with 122 penalty minutes.  He established BCHL career highs in games played (58), goals (19), assists (39), points (58), and penalty minutes (57) while skating with the Kings during the 2003-04 season.  Crowder also recorded one goal and three assists for four points, along with two penalty minutes in seven BCHL playoff contests with Powell River in 2003-04.

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  1. “Paul Mara said he has gotten a lot of feedback from people about the tempo of the games before the change in tempo.”

    I think you meant change in coaches, Jane.

    bottom line=Renney bad, Torts good

  2. The change was obvious to everyone. I think Renney is best served as a coach who helps build a foundation for a team that has a lack of control. However, I don’t see him as the guy who takes a team all the way in North America. I think his coaching style fits a larger, European, ice rink. You have to be much more aggressive on a smaller surface.

  3. Zherdev13 (formerly Prucha25) on

    Mara is 100% right! The team is a lot more fun to watch. Falling asleep during Ranger games wasn’t fun.

  4. Rick, Beer Me! was chased away by the I told ya so’s. He was good for this board and should come back. After all, we’re all here because of the Rangers.

  5. Renney’s system was panned by the players in the mid 90’s in Vancouver and he was fired because of it there too. so it is no surprise that he is not popular among the players as a coach. notice that I did not say they did not like him personally. I said they don’t like his coaching. more proof is the poll a year ago among NHL players that gave Renney zero votes as best coach. NOT ONE VOTE, even from his own players !

    that says it all.

  6. WTF is Carp doing in Troy-lette? Is he covering RPI or something? I can only think of a few reasons to enter that city and one of them is the Engineers.

  7. LOL on the Uncle Daddy news. I think he got off easy considering he was sleeping with his sister in law before the divorce! Over-rated POS!

  8. I hate Fatso, but I can’t get excited over any guy getting screwed by a family court for alimony. 2020?? The amount won’t even go down after he retires and isn’t making millions anymore? I’m never getting married. Ever.

  9. I disagreed with a lot with Beer Me! but it was mostly in good fun or..like 22figure8 says we’re all here to be Ranger fans but I must say; I dont know when or who the hitting below the belt started with but it was happening alot during the end of the Renny-land era…I’m not sure if its correct that he was “chased away”…some of the other guys are still here

    I mean we get into vicious arguments here about who floats more Kovalev or Zherdev…that Renny saga was brutal…I’m still tired from it

  10. This is not going to be an easy weekend for our boys in RW&B and I hope they do not take it lightly (I doubt it since Torts will not allow it). They cannot worry too much about what the other teams are doing in the standing and just grab the four points this weekend.

    I think some are forgetting that Renney is not a bad coach, it was just his style was no longer working. IMO, his approach is more for a team with veteran players (Straka, Jagr, Shanny, etc) that can lead themselves.

    This team makeup needed a Coach who will light a fire under their arse. Tort brings that and a more aggressive offensive game. I really wish more coaches follow Torts style and open up the game.

  11. darnit NO COUNTRY FOR OLD RANGERS
    beat me to it.

    gee, i wonder when brodeur will have to attend some sort of NHL related reprogramming classes ala Avery’s anger management.

    how nice that he doesn’t want to pay for his kids.

    that’s what you get marty when you sleep with your wife’s sister.

    btw, unfortunately now we know that he plans to stick around til 2012.
    ugh!!

  12. I think Callahan gets the extra effort award this year. The guy is simply a hard working soldier who does everything that he can. I love having him on this team. There are players like him on every team, but you need that kind of a player to win a championship. I am not saying we are winning even a beer pong tournament this year, but you know what I mean. The kid is a class act, has some fire in his veins, and is exactly the definition of a gritty, hard nosed player. I am sure Torts holds him in a very high regard.

  13. TSN GM Poll

    apparently Don Cherry must have helped sway the voting in a recent poll among 28 GMs around the league as far as who they would designate a Franchise Player.

    sidney was voted first. not surprising since it seems as if all his whining faults and suckerpunches are overlooked.

    Ovechkin took second, about 30 points behind
    with Luongo receiving more first place votes than the complete package Ovechkin.

    i guess, when they talk about it being OUR GAME
    they don’t want to give credit to those who aren’t OUR players.

  14. UESBlueshirt on

    Nasty,

    I think with Aaron Voros on the team there’s a good chance they can win some sort of eating or drinking competition.

  15. “Beautiful Troy, NY”. Sarcasm or not, that’s the first time I’ve ever heard those words put together. Why the trip up here, Carp? I’m in Albany, by the way…

  16. Going to state basketball final fours in Troy and Glens Falls, as I always do.

    Glens Falls Civic Center was the Rangers’ training camp site for years, so I’ve spent a lot of time there.

    I’m staying in Albany and Saratoga Springs. Beats Edmonton and Calgary. Not to mention Uniondale.

  17. God Bless for this new post, I was going through withdrawl.

    YAY to not falling asleep or changing the channel to a different hockey game to watch some entertaining play.

  18. Torts has only been the coach for like two weeks but words like “Renney'” and “Voros” and “appropriate” seem like ten years ago!!

  19. Rick, Beer Me! was chased away by the I told ya so’s. He was good for this board and should come back. After all, we’re all here because of the Rangers.

    Did I miss something? Did beer me return?

  20. Good deal Carp. Saratoga’s my town. Fun place to be. Let me know if you need a good watering hole(try the Tin n’ Lint…where else can you swill cheap beers in a bar that Don McLean wrote American Pie?)…definitely beats Uniondale.

    And Glens Falls…they’re still pissed the Red Wings bailed…I was hoping a while back they’d land the Wolf Pack up there. Still not a bad place…not as fun as Toga though… Enjoy your stay in the Cap Region, man. You’re coming just in time for the thaw!

  21. Kaspar
    March 19th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Torts has only been the coach for like two weeks but words like “Renney’” and “Voros” and “appropriate” seem like ten years ago!!

    *****************************

    Amen to that!

  22. Was I dreaming or was Dubinksky Callahan Avery a line on Tuesday night? Very effective too. Why weren’t they together in practice?

  23. tdchi, there’s a thaw? I was up there this same weekend two years ago and we got 26 inches of snow on the ride up. PS, the Stadium pub in downtown Saratoga has the best calamari — instead of dipping it in sauce, they put it in a bowl and mix the marinara sauce and some red peppers and the calamari all together. My mouth is watering already, and I’m not in the car yet.

    Salty, I wanted to find out if there’s anything we can do to bring back Beer Me and any others who have strayed away from this (Festivus) blog.

    Just put up something about the Rangers signing undrafted Paul Crowder. I think it’s a move for Hartford only at this point.

  24. How ’bout those Blue Jackets???

    Mason=Calder Trophy
    Nash=Hart trophy
    Tyutin=Norris Trophy
    Hitchcock=biggest chin(s) since Alfred Hitch…..woe!

  25. if the SJO fits on

    Can’t wait to go to the game Saturday. I wonder if Kaleta will try anything smart that night. Looking foward to it.

  26. ESPN put up a good article about the shootout, which has been discussed a lot here lately. It has a lot of Rangers talk in it, including quotes from Renney.

    Like it or not, the Rangers have certainly benefitted from the skills competition. Over the past 4 years, we’re #3 in win %, and have won the most overall shootouts (34 total). And with these TIGHT playoff races every year, you can’t tell me that those 34 extra points didn’t give us a boost.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=lebrun_pierre&id=3996052

  27. onecupin69years on

    crowder doesn’t that rhyme with chowder, I guess when you run out of cap money, you go to the cupboard.

  28. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules the First line!! says Greg L. on

    Yeah Rick , 26 inches of snow… yeah I geuss thats alot but around here thats a sprinkle …

    Beer me left because alot of people on here , not most but alot , have no class…Zero class and no respect for thier fellow Ranger. Beer me was here way before I was but is now gone because some people on here are jerks. I have seen some posers on here with no class and to name a few….well Prucha25 shows no class or respect for me and gave me some bull crap sorry…but still does it…Salty says rude and over obnoxious stuff and I sure liking the Rangers now after he BAILED out on them early in the season ,as bad a he can be I do read his comments and give him respect even though he doesn’t to me…NEW NEWMAN has really rubbed me wrong to much but he is another example of classlessness.(HAHA)Yeah but he does say stuff that is spot on too.

    Rangers let the habs steal a point from us , we dominated them and showed them who the boss!!! Beware NHL …Rangers are back , better than ever!!!

  29. Hopefully Beer Me! comes back. He knew what he was talking about when it came to hockey. Just because he liked a particular coach doesn’t mean he is stupid or deserved to be made fun of the way he was. I personally hope he comes back, this blog is certainly in need of people who know what they are talking about, trust me.

  30. It is really easy to come on here after a loss and just crap all over anyone who has a difference of opinion than you. I have seen it happen on here many times. Beer Me is a good guy, and he respected Renney, and I have to say that I respected Renney for a long time too. I didn’t have a problem with anyone who didn’t, but I think the straw that broke the camel’s back for me, was the game against Dallas. Yeah, that game. I am more than happy that Torts is here now. I didn’t think we would have been able to land Torts, and that is why I was nervous to just fire Renney. But when all was said and done, it was the right move for now and the future of this team.

    Anyway, we all post here because we love the Rangers. Sure, we are going to not agree on everything, but it doesn’t mean we should dump all over each other for having differing opinions.

    There are many people on here that bring a lot to the blog, and have great perspective on things. It is pretty easy to see who knows what they are talking about on here and who doesn’t.

  31. GardenFaithfulinFLA on

    Beer Me, along with a few other people, were here when I started in the early summer and helped me get through the off-season withdrawal. I enjoyed his posts whether I agreed or not. Beer Me = Come Back! You are missed! ;)

  32. Rick I think Beer Me took on a new job and doesn’t have as much time -waste- -kill- SPEND on the blog anymore.

    That said I know Beer Me was literally addicted to the site, just as many of us are. I can’t even count how many times he would be in an argument and say “OKAY that’s it, I’m done for the day, gotta get back to work” and he’d be back in action 10 minutes later responding to something!

    Beer is/was a good guy, well spoken/written, had the numbers game and knack for spinning stats in his favor.

    The only thing we ever agreed on was getting Jagr out of town and most people would still argue that we we’re both wrong about that.

    If Beer Me came back I can’t say I wouldn’t give him a good ribbing about Renney from time to time, but I don’t think it’s me he’s avoiding, if anyone.

    Although I just had the epiphany that my posting has really dropped without Beer Me around to argue with…

  33. GardenFaithfulinFLA on

    Salty, I do remember him saying he was starting a new job and wouldn’t be able to be around as much.

  34. Salty!

    I’ll argue with you!

    Do you prefer Latvian Schnitzels or Estonian Bratwursts?
    You pick first..I’ll take the other one

    Hey
    Did you guys hear about Guy Carbo throwin the habs under the bus yesterday?

    I’m paraphrasing from radio guys but it went something like this:

    There were a few guys on the team that didnt like him and are holding the habs back…because he still considers himself a Hab and wants them to do well he would recommend to the current staff that if these same players remained with the team next year then the Canadiens would not win next year…”either”…

    as if they have no chance this year ( this last bit are my words not his)

  35. BLOG DRAMA!

    Wow that Beer Me! guy must feel really special right about now. All day long nothing but him! Who wants beer? Im buying… Sunday at the Garden…

  36. wow!!
    that’s a totally different take on the former Montreal coach
    Guy Carboneau.
    i read something earlier today that gave the impression he wasn’t going to diss anyone.

    i thought it was at http://www.tsn.ca
    but now i can’t find it.

  37. I’m going to the game with my fiancé… she thinks Torts is hot! And she drools over Dubi… I’m going to have to keep her close or she’ll charge straight to the bench with players LOL

  38. Enjoy Troy, Sam. I just graduated from RPI a year and a half ago. I hope I never see that place again….

    Although I do miss Brown’s, head down there for some great beer and good food.

  39. Beer Me was incorrect or misinformed almost every time he posted. A brief sampler off the top of my head: Renney was not responsible for the team’s lifeless play. Renney had zero influence on the make-up of the roster last July. Tortorella would never replace Renney as coach because they were bestest of friends. The Devils were a low-scoring hockey team in their Cup years. All of the above have been shown to be completely brain-dead beliefs.

    But worse he never had the grace to admit when he was wrong and instead hightailed it when the facts on the ground became too much to deny. He took off not because he was “bullied” off the site, but because he as a self-appointed expert observer lacked the stones to face up to his lack of knowledge relative to others. He was shown up, and he couldn’t stand it, so he quit.

  40. On Carbo’s press conference:

    Here is a snippet from the Globe and Mail that doent appear to be on the major hockey sites

    “When asked whether there are any bad apples in the dressing room, he said: “It’s up to Bob and the organization to find them,” and that with 11 pending free agents, “now might be the time to get rid [of some players].”

    The rest of my paraphrase came from this guy Francios(sp?) Gangnon from Le Presse…he is a known muckraker

    I’ll try to find more

  41. Apparently, did a little detective work, and both LI Joe and Beer Me have made their way over to Zipay’s blog…

    * Posted by Beer Me | March 18, 2009 14:19 Lucas was banned from the Lohud site, and a few others, wonder why.

    Posted by Lucas | March 18, 2009 14:22 I was? NOBODY TOLD ME!!!

    Posted by LI Joe | March 18, 2009 14:26 is this the infamous beerme from lohud – you know you are still a legend and frequently talked about although i too don’t post there anymore

  42. I’m not sure if Beer Me! reads here anymore. I think both Salty and Gunnar are right. Beer Me disagreed with me on almost everything. I think this blog misses his presence, not necessarily the insight he shared because he was wrong more often than not. But he does understand the game and have an average ability to assess hockey play.

    LI Joe still reads/posts here as “carp whats the deal here” when he’s trying to get me banned. LoL

  43. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    I think Beer Me! is a fan who thinks his hockey knowledge was superior to others. To me, reading some of his posts struck me that he was arrogant. His leaving of this blog proves this. He did not want to stick around and have to admit that some of his points were wrong. No one here chased him away,he is just too thin skinned to except some ribbing that he most certainly would have taken from some of the posters here. That being said,so what! if he left,who cares.this blog has been reinvigorated since Carp and Jane took over. I used to post alot over at BB for about a season and it was like being on an island by myself arguing with all the polyanas on that site. But when I left,I let the owners and the jackasses of the blog really have it for being such scumbags for criticzing and ripping me for having an opinion different from the rose colored glasses opinions they have. Anyway,sorry for the rant.

    Carp and Jane,you guys are doing a fantastick job here,keep it up!!

  44. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    true fans-

    As for Li joe,I don’t know what happened to him. He used to be a fun poster on here and BB for a while and than he kind of became another one of these so called “level headed” posters and sort of played both sides of the fence on all issues. As for his dislike for Dubi,it comes from the time the Rangers traded Matt Cullen and replaced him with Dubi. He and I argued that issue for a little bit over on BB,but in a cordial way. I think he’s still bitter at Dubinsky for some reason for that.

  45. Their are many different personalities here….The NY Rangers organization has put us through many years of torment and pain. We are repressed fans.

    This leads to difference of opinion and hard feelings amongst us fans.

    I do not take anything personal from anyone here. I enjoy reading/posting and hope for the best for the team and fellow Rangers fans.

    If the Rangers do not go far this year, I am not gonna start cutting myself. Life goes on.

  46. I wish snow could kill my lawn…the snow melted away last week; and for the first time in 4 months I saw my lawn…the sh** is still 12″ tall!!…there’s still ice floats in the lake and I already need to cut the lawn

  47. Ottawa has whiffed on three breakaways in the game against Habs and still lead 4-2….and chased Price

  48. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules the First line!! says Greg L. on

    Liquid , good point about us fans being repressed , yeah we all have different opinions which is good . Living the pain we all have from cheering on a losing team . Having Jagr made us good again( if we ever were ) and now with Hank ,Dubinsky,Staalsie and our young russians …we will be fun to watch and will enjoy watching these younsters grow up.

    I ment to say NEW NEWMAN hasn’t really rubbed me wrong…i put has , oops…and I ment to say Salty is sure liking the Rangers now that they are winning (fair weather fan)

  49. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    i hear that liquid. i love bloggin hre and talkin to you guys. i used to talk to beer me but if anyone takes this stuff that seriously that they have to leave because they feel ganged up on, then theyre takin it way tooo seriously. i dont agree with some things people say here but i am not angry towards anyone here. i’ll talk with anyone plus i think we have all sort of funny, witty remarks and also some interesting stuff to talk about to take my mind off my crazy life. rangers rule!!! lohud rfules!!! ranger fans unite to destroy anyone who oppses us!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. …and the BEER saga continues. Talking about messy divorce between Beer Me! and the BLOG! Thank god there is no kids from that marriage…they would’ve been scarred for life!

  51. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    damnit i logged off to watch the habs game and then came back but clicked on the had to hab it post and started talkin and couldnt figure out why nobody was posting! wow. anyway price sucks!!! halaks in net now. but now hamrlik scored its 5-4

  52. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    pavel- lol. emo. thats sick dude. just be happy you have an excuse to leave the house. sometimes when me and the wifey were brawlin, id say screw you im outta here and then id go drive around like a madman in my car for like 5 minutes and then go cut grass!! well now im divorced and live in an apartment. unless you got crazy russian grass that only grows if u spray vodka on it like kaspar does, be happy its just 1 more thing you can rely on when youre wifes gettin on ya nerves. that and workin on cars!!!!!!

  53. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    wow vermonts nice man. new hampshire too. good fishin up there i bet. i miss the northeast. midwest sucks!! its so boring and flat. corn and hogfarms and the sweet smell of shat in the air!!

  54. Kaspar im going skiing in vermont this weekend can i come to ur house to watch the rangers game on sat night

  55. I admit it; Carey Price is on my fantasy team which explains his year. I had Leetch the year he was like -28 and Crosby last year when he hurt his ankle. I always finish top 4 yet find some way to have star players have off years.

    And Liquid-Yes, the many years of bad management and horrible trades have made Rangers fans very reactionary and a little bitter. It’s true things aren’t as bad as they say (once again I use the stat that I was born in 1981 and I’ve seen one Championship, two President’s Trophies, three division titles, four trips to the Conference Finals..well, I only remember two of those) but I fully admit I’m one of those fans who remembers the Zubov, Norstrom/Laperreire, Knuble, and even Zidlicky trades and wants to NEVER give up youth for anything even one day older.

    I also am much tougher on free agents then on home growns, but that’s how I roll.

  56. I tell you what, if I ever take my ball and go home, I hope I am talked about as much as the others that have left. Ha.

  57. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    mikeA- i was born in 81 too. i started watchin them with my dad back in 86-87. before that i wasnt interested. but i went to a game with my dad and his friends from work when i was about 7 and immediately loved it. i said hey dad this is the best sport ever!!!!!! it was fun back then. i didnt care about how much a player made or if a guy was slumpin or how good or bad the coach was and the gm. and i didnt get so nervous and were watchin what other teams did to improve the rangers chance of the playoffs. ahh ignorance is bliss. but yea it was so great watchin them win the cup in 94. i was old enough to sort of understand and appreciate how important it was. and i said hey, i lived to see the rangers win a cup, im happy. so fast doesthat thought escape you after a few years. you want another so bad!!!

  58. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    oh yea ottawa held on to win 5-4 in regulation. a whole period of no scoring. man i wish the rangers could accomplish that and hold a team down. i guess thats why im so nervous about games because it seems that the other team can just score at will if they are trailing and really need a goal. i think henrik gets nervous towards the end too. its happened alot to us this year

  59. Matt
    I’m actually in NY on the weekend

    where do you go to ski??

    CCCP

    Lawns are a PIA!! now matter how hard I try to kill ine it grows back

  60. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    nasty- your legacy will live on forever in our minds and in our hearts!

  61. I don’t konw what this Beer Me or any other poster thought about Renney, or if he was wrong or right. All I know is that I noticed several posters ( who I’ve not taken the trouble to recall), had glowing things to say about Renney all during his position with Rangers. Those who thought of him as a viable coach, I strongly disagreed with ( but I never put anyone down for their beliefs,) after all they are just our opinions, and they are welcome to them. But I stand firm in my disagreement and I have done so since the earliest observations of Renney handling this team.
    I thought that he was always a step or so behind just about every coach he faced, and always behind the power curve on his tactical moves. His so called system of believing that he could “defend” his way into the playooffs, and the absolute destruction he wrought with players who had to revamp their entire style of play that they grew up with, and in many instances,made their bones with other teams with, into skittish players who hesitated to attack lest they get caught in an odd man rush, or in no position to defend their own zone.
    Sure they put up impressive defensive stats ( most of which when properly analyzed were the result of a spectacular goal tender who bailed hem out most nights and kept them close in games that they were being slaughtered in, and would have been without him.) I was turned off by him by his slavish deference to Jagr whom he allowed to set a horrible example of “me first ism} throughout his entire tenure here. How many of you recall the great Jagr’s casual stroll to the bench after tiring himself out circling the net circle after idiotic circle without ever getting a shot off, and running out of gas. He never hustled to get off, and allow his coach to put on a replcement in time to prevent the opponent from bombarding the goal, beyond all reason. His insistence in using the “Sentinel” Malik, game after game despite him often deflecting pucks into his own cage, and refusing to take the body. His ridiculous instence on using the same lousy PP night after stinking night, despite their total incompetence at exercising a PP at all, never mind by NHL standards. He was a prep shcool coach who was in way over his head, and he may have been a nice guy – but he sure as hell wasn’t a major league coach.

  62. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    jeez guys lawncare is so fun!!!!! lol j/k. but it did help relieve stress from fightin with the old b!@#$. beer works too!

  63. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    pavel- good man. i got married at 23. very stupid move. after the birth of my daughter she turned into nurse ratchett.actually more like madam zena.

  64. Marriage is tricky. You have to make sure you marry the right person. There is one person and one person only that can put up with me, and that is the one and only Mrs. Nasty 1. I honestly don’t know how she does it. I can’t even put up with myself.

  65. jerkins-I hear that. I remember being excited about getting Bernie Nicholls back in the day but now I’d probably be like “stupid #@#%! traded homegrown Sandstrom and Granato’ (I was a big fan of those guys too but whatever made the team beeter). I went nuts when Miro Horova scored that goal to tie the Devils that led to the 1989-90 Patrick Division. It was a different era. No cap. And the Rangers didn’t have any stars from like 85-90 unless you count Beezer or a very young Leetch. Sandstrom was great but not someone who could carry a team.

    It’s funny, I love 94 but I want more. I wanna see guys like Henrik/Dubi/Cally/Staal and some of those young prospects like AA and Grachev make a real dent and go for some Cups.

    Pavel-Right on brother. I used to be all about finding a cool girl and settling down but it’s too much drama. I’ve been through enough looney relationships I’m cool just working, watching hockey, listening to music, and having fun with my friends….traveling too. Don’t settle. Enjoy the rest of your 20s, set yourself up with a good career and something you love, hang out, and if something cool comes along the way awesome, if not, it will when you’re career set.

  66. Really off topic but did anyone here see Watchmen? I REALLY enjoyed it. Can’t stop thinking about it. The guy who wrote it is great and also did V For Vendetta although he was opposed to both movie versions and wants nothing to do with them. He’s a very weird dude that Alan Moore but a great writer.

    Jane and Rick-In regards to this Crowder prospect, Greg Moore got hurt real bad last night in the Hartford/Lowell game, got hit into the boards and they brought the stretcher out. He got up on his own though but suffered what is probably a concussion. So Hartford is a little thin with Moore and Soryal out and Zaborsky out for season and Byers who may come back in round 2 should the Pack get that far.

    They’re a little thing up front so this guy will probably jump in and help the top 5 of Anisimov/Paranteau/Bell/Rissmiller/Dupont.

  67. MikeA

    My girlfriend’s daughter went to see Watchmen last sat’day…said it was great…watched V for Vendetta with her last month..loved that….was Watchmen better?

    Probably go check it out in NY with my son this weekend

  68. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    mikeA- i forgot about zaborsky. what happened to him? and what ever happend to jarko immonen? did he go to europe?

    oh i wanna see watchmen too. it looks great. i liked v for vendetta too. cool plot to it. i didnt realize at first but the guy who played smith in matrix and the elf king in lord of the rings, played the part of V.

  69. since this topic came up… is anyone watching the TV series “Breaking Bad” on AMC? Man… I absolutely love it! It’s a brilliant crime drama about a high school chemistry teacher who’s suffering from the world’s worst case of mid-life crisis and becomes a criminal.

  70. *Greg L you know nothing about this sport and you just like the Rangers cause you WISH you were an American and you like their uniform colors. FACT. And a HYSTERICAL fact at that. You would be a bum on the street if you weren’t taken care of like a child by Canadian resources for the mentally challenged.*

    I haven’t even been around here much at all since they’ve been winning. I actually haven’t even seen most of the games since the deadline. I finally *got what I was hoping for* from the organization… in a way I feel like my work here is done. (Although that will not be true until Chris Drury is either stripped of the C and/or his contract, or moved…THAT will never happen.)

    Repeat of painful truth:

    *Greg L you know nothing about this sport and you just like the Rangers because you solemnly WISH you were an American and you like their uniform colors.*

  71. Nigel Dawes is already a healthy scratch. ha.

    Sather did a GREAT job at the deadline !!!!

  72. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    yea i remeber a few seasons ago immonen and dawes were both comin up from hartford and gettin some games in. immonen was ok, he scored a few, and i thought hed be in the lineup before the midget was. he was gettin too old for the minors though wasnt he? hes gotta be like 27 or 28 by now

  73. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    somerset-yea i watched the coyotes-sharks game a few days ago and dawes was scratched for that one too. prucha got hooked or somethin and drew the penalty that doan eventually got the game winner with only like 20 seconds left or somethin. didnt watch the whole game but it was good seein prucha play and probably be able to play every game now. hes a good guy, very likeable guy and hope he comes back one day. hes just one of those guys you love rooting for. well i do anyway,.

  74. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    k guys, have agood night, im off to watch the blues- nucks game on tv. one of the few perks of living in the midwest, lol.

  75. fran

    That it took forever for most people around here to realize that Renny was way over his head as you say does them no credit. Because the fact that a “defensive-minded” coach presided over a team that gave up 15-20 scoring chances against ——- while getting three on offense during the same time frame ——- was somehow seen as competent is embarrassing to those fans who thought that way and still even now see themselves as hockey-wise. Hah!

  76. wd40 & Fran,
    I don’t know how people here could not have seen the difference in the team. When they started the season (and winning) they hard a surprisingly hard fore-check and played a pretty strong puck possession game. That lasted about 10-12 games. After that, you could tell Tom the-Turtle Renney wanted to pull his offense back to defense. There was a huge shift in scoring, but not immediately in wins (because Hank was playing absolutely out of his mind). Several of us here forecasted a downwards turn. It’s pretty crazy because we (and the main 4 of us know who we are) fought tooth and nail with Beer Me! and several other posters while the Rangers were number 1 in the East and then number one in the division and then… nothing. And then Renney got fired (the one whom Beer Me! loved dearly). And Beer Me! basically handed in his resignation too at the same time.

    It was very easy for the others to argue with us, because they sat atop the standings preaching Renney logic. But that only lasted so long and while vindication is sweet, they are still spewing their “level-headed” nonsense elsewhere. I hope they’re wrong, yet again, and have to find themselves another new home soon.

  77. I almost went to RPI in Troy, decided to go to U of DE instead. Good decision there.

    Can someone explain to me why Mara doesn’t have a letter on his chest?

  78. Ovechkin scores #50, lays his stick on the ice, and warms his hands by it like a camp fire…. priceless.

    That dude slays me. The NHL needs more of him

  79. Since the trade deadline, the spotlight has been on Sean Avery & Nik Antropov, which is due to their excellent play and timely goal scoring.

    The 3rd guy who is less talked about, Derek Morris, deserves some recognition in the Rangers recent turn around.

    Morris was on NHL live yesterday (via phone) with Don LeGreca & Bill Clement and he is a classy dedicated guy. I would compare him to Paul Mara in that respect. You can tell he wants to succeed here and go far in the playoffs.

    Plus the fact he is the replacement and huge upgrade to Dmitri Kalinin, who was a little bit of a softee on the blueline and prone to making some bad decisions with the puck.

    Due to work and family obligations, I did not watch much hockey when Wade Redden was considered an above average dman in this league, but if he can some how flick a switch come playoff time, and regain some of the form that encouraged Sather to throw a blank check at him for 6 years, then we would have a great chance to go far in the Eastern conference.

  80. deja fitzpatrick on

    I love how whenever beer me! is brought up names youve rarely seen post here start popping up lol

  81. jerkins-Yeah Hugo Weaving i believe is his name. He was great as V and Agent Smith. The guy who plays Rorschach in Watchman played Kelly Leak in the original Bad News Bears movies. That guy can act. He was great in Watchmen.

    Zaborsky hurt his shoulder and is done for the year as per Mitch Beck at Howlings.

    Kaspar-Tough to say which one is better. Watchmen is still too new for me to really rate it in the Mike A Hall of Fame LOL. I saw V with no hype and it blew me away and Watchmen had a lot of hype and actually lived up to it.

    I love how both have a lot of thought provoking political questions; If you’re not familiar with the graphic novel, Watchmen takes a lot of history (WW II, Vietnam, JFK, Nixon, Cold War) and puts a real twist on it. I’ll leave it at that.

    If anyone wants to see a great movie, watch Strange Days with Ralph Fiennes, Angella Bassett, and Julliane Moore. That was one of the most underated movies I’ve ever seen. James Cameron produced it and his then wife (forgot her name) directed it. It came out in late 94 during lockout #1.

  82. MikeA
    Thanks…same thing happened to me with V
    I was talked into watching it one sat’day night when we let the kids pick the movie…I thought it was a kiddie movie…so I sauced up on the Crown Royal and what’ya know…like you said..blown away!!

    What did you think of In Bruges?? Fiennes, Farrell and Midgets

  83. jerkins MCperkins(mike in ia) on

    kaspar- lol i just watched in bruges. its really funny but kinda sick with the whole kid thing. not gonna spoil it for mike or anybody but you know what i mean. but my favorite part is when they tell the american tourists not to go up the tower cuz theyre too fat and the part with the midget and 2 stripptrs was hilarious. i love movies like that. you know the onesthat you dont hear about and alot of independant movies are like that too. where you dont know anything about it, so you dont have certain expectations when you see it. strange movie but funny and kinda dark too

  84. Jerkins
    I love how Farrell was so hurt that the Midget didnt wave back at him…he couldn’t let it go

  85. kaspar im going to mt snow. this is actually my first time really skiing cause my dad used to take me when im younger but i never listened to the instructor.

  86. Michael Sauer is plus 19 at Hartford. But we just had to sign crap like Kalinin and Redden. And keep Rozsival. Sickening that Sauer doesn’t even rate the patented Sather “one game tryout and then back to Purgatory” try-out.

  87. Derek Morris VoteWatch 2009 on

    anyone catch torts on WFAN? Boomer said it was coming up shortly, but my damn job politely requests that I get out of my car and into the office by 9.

  88. Derek Morris VoteWatch 2009 on

    Stick to the facts VoteWatch

    antropov 43
    Morris 42

    last week

    antropov 33
    morris 0

    hooray for merit-blind lobbying!

  89. wd40
    March 19th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
    fran

    That it took forever for most people around here to realize that Renny was way over his head as you say does them no credit. Because the fact that a “defensive-minded” coach presided over a team that gave up 15-20 scoring chances against ———- while getting three on offense during the same time frame ———- was somehow seen as competent is embarrassing to those fans who thought that way and still even now see themselves as hockey-wise. Hah!
    ******************************************************

    WD

    Do you remember right before the Dallas game all the hype was “We have to play our “SYSTEM”” Gomez said “the system we play will give us our wins. Defense will win us the games” right before they were blown away by Dallas 10-2 LOL

  90. MattR

    Enjoy…thats down in the southern part of the state
    I’m a little nortwest of Burlington

  91. Mac attack

    Not only cant I spell (and neither can you)
    but I cant tell directions!! (you can)

    NORTH EAST…..

    Thanks god this is a GPS world or I’d drown every night!!

  92. MAKO, it woulda been one thing if RennyBall had in fact done what it was touted to do —– shut down other teams scoring chances. Then you have a legit argument for fans to chew on. But of course it did not do that. It did nothing even close to that. And today we have a coach whose motto is “Safe is Death” who has cut those scoring chances against in HALF. Why? Because he believes in playing the game in the other team’s end. What a concept!

  93. wd40 and MAKO
    It says something about being in motion for starters…you’re moving, your in the game not waiting back to defend

    Then of course there is confidence factors…Renney would do everything he could to get to the shoot out and then once there he turned away from watching Hank get shot on….
    and constantly repeating “we need to win a lot of 2-1 games”…what a dibilitating thing to say…to the fans, the players and the goaltenders….

    he may have been a “nice guy” but the further emoved from him I get the less I respect his coaching abailities or record

  94. question… as far as points in the standings… i remember last year and the year before we kind of knew what the least amount of points were needed to clinch… does anyone know what that number might be?? 95 or something?

  95. WD

    LOL I know. No matter how much he “preached” defense, they would give up scoring chance after scoring chance, after odd man rushes. Huge FLAW in his “defensive” concept. Like you said – if they didnt give up so much then we would have believed in his “system” more. But QUITE HONESTLY Kaspar – its all going to feel like a distant memory and the more successful they are with Torts the more Renney looks like a liar and a hack.

  96. More reasons to like Mike Green: (On Ovechkin’s planned celebration,from tsn)

    Green knew what to expect when Ovechkin reached the milestone, but he preferred to admire it from a distance.
    “He told me he was going to do it,” Green said. “He wanted me to join in, but there was no way I’d join in on that. I just kind of stood back and let him do what he does.”

    -I always defend Ovie, but not on this one. It’s not like there haven’t been planned celebrations — I think it was Selanne who tossed up his glove and shot it with his stick, all the stick riders, etc. — but Ovie has already garnered negative attention with his enthusiasm. Those who love him defended it as just that, sheer joy for the game, but this was something entirely different…vintage ocho cinco.

    Carp was right, and it didn’t take long for it to happen.

  97. re:my post above

    green’s comments end after quotes. the rest is me. sorry for ambiguity.

  98. Nasty 1 7 and 4 gets the job done.

    Kaspar thanks enjoy ny. u and me r switching states im going from ny to vt and ur doing the opposite

  99. Ovechkin is one of the greats and he enjoys the hell out of playing and performing. The NHL needs more of him and I’ll take his celebrations over Cindy’s diving any day.

    Also — think Nylander’s enjoying playing with #8? Good move, Mrs. Nylander.

  100. So stoked for this weekend. 4 points to be had…I’ll be at the Garden on Saturday night.

    In terms of the Ovechkin celebration: I think it’s lame. I don’t mind the jumping into the glass, or anything that looks like raw emotion. The stick on the ice/hands over the fire thing was clearly premeditated, and I just think that’s ridiculous.

    I hope Ovechkin pays for stuff like that via a clean, hard hit on the ice. Someone is going to catch him…that’s how hockey works. But when he gets clocked, he deserves it.

  101. OMG big deal. He warmed his hands over his stick. J*sus – a once in a generation player gets negative attention because how he celebrates his MILESTONE goals. I can see if he did something conceited or out of place ever time he scores. Who cares, he’s 22-23 years old and he loves the game. Its not like he’s brake dancing on the ice. If its planned and THAT’s what he does, then is not big deal. He isnt going center ice on the TB logo and taking curtain calls bowing….

  102. With the “new” NHL being so p.c., how long does it take them to follow the NFL and penalize celebrations like that?
    If Buttman gave Avery the business over a stupid comment, it wouldn’t surprise me.

  103. Oh no, no, no. I’m not like that. I think he’s an awesome player, and I think guys need to show emotion when they score. I agree that I’d rather see something like what Ovechkin did as opposed to the stonefaced Jagr non-celebraion (even though that was cool in its own, silent-assassin type way).

    It’s just that hockey is a bit of a different sport in that it is intended to be policed by the players. And I do think that if someone takes umbridge with that sort of thing, then that player should feel free to cleanly let AO know about it…if they can catch him.

    For the record, I think Sean Avery’s goal celebration is the best in hockey…but I might be biased :-)

  104. HEHEHEHEH OK Rob. I used to like Jagr’s celebration when he was younger. #1 the Salute and #2 kissing his first two fingers ala Sammy Sosa without the chest pound. But after he “grew – up” he didnt celebrate his goals like that anymore. I guess when you are the best player in the world and have the attitude AO does then you understand him and his love for the game. Im sure it was meant to be innocent and not in a “rub it in TB’s face way” Im sure he meant no disrespect by it. He’s not that type of player or guy.

    :)

    LET GO RANGERS!!!!

  105. Also, I think Cherry is a xenophobic idiot. But that’s neither here nor there.

    LET’S GO RANGERS indeed!

  106. NystromisaSTIFF on

    Ovie’s celebration was great but you don’t show up a team that is in the bottom 5 of the league.That’s why Tocchet got upset about it. Ovechkins comment was funny during the post game interview,”Me, José Theodore, [Nicklas] Backstrom and [Mike Green] said if I score goal, José tell me just put the stick on the ice and try like it’s so hot. Backie stopped and Greenie stopped, so I have to do it myself.”

    This is the reason why the NHL sucks (Tocchets response) – “He came down a notch in my book after that. I grew up in the old days in the Spectrum where that first period, after that happened, it might have been a three-hour first period,” Tocchet said. “It’s not something I like [and] it’s hard for me to see that in our building.”

  107. I love Ovechkin’s celebrations. Hockey is an emotional, exciting sport, it’s only natural that goal celebrations are exciting too. This isn’t golf. And I sure as hell hope this doesn’t turn into the NFL (No Fun League).

    People are just in an uproar because OV is bucking the system. Everything in hockey is team. OV’s celebrations are celebrating the individual. So what? The dude scores like a machine, he should be proud of himself. Not to mention he’s carrying his team to home ice advantage in the playoffs.

    Another point: his excitement puts people in the seats, and gets people pumped during the game. When the crowd is involved, it really makes it a home ice advantage. Remember the 5-0 lead we blew against Montreal last year at the Bell Centre? I wonder how that game would have turned out if the crowd was silent and left after 3-0.

    Anybody who is bashing OV is a jealous hater. The guy is a bonafide superstar. The only thing that could make his goal celebrations better is if he’s doing them in a Rangers sweater.

  108. Good weekend for NYR hockey. Two night games against opponents we should beat. Let’s hope we win them both.

  109. NystromisaSTIFF on

    Joe in DE March 20th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    I love Ovechkin’s celebrations. Hockey is an emotional, exciting sport, it’s only natural that goal celebrations are exciting too. This isn’t golf. And I sure as hell hope this doesn’t turn into the NFL (No Fun League).

    People are just in an uproar because OV is bucking the system. Everything in hockey is team. OV’s celebrations are celebrating the individual. So what? The dude scores like a machine, he should be proud of himself. Not to mention he’s carrying his team to home ice advantage in the playoffs.

    Another point: his excitement puts people in the seats, and gets people pumped during the game. When the crowd is involved, it really makes it a home ice advantage. Remember the 5-0 lead we blew against Montreal last year at the Bell Centre? I wonder how that game would have turned out if the crowd was silent and left after 3-0.

    Anybody who is bashing OV is a jealous hater. The guy is a bonafide superstar. The only thing that could make his goal celebrations better is if he’s doing them in a Rangers sweater.

    In old time videos, you never saw Bobby Orr, Ted Lindsay, Gordie Howe, the Richards celebrate as an individual or certainly trying to show up their opponent.

  110. So my question is: If Tocchet felt so strongly against what AO did, then why wasn’t there a 3 hour first period? Would the league have punished Tocchet and all players involved, including AO???

    Tocchet needs to grow a pair then.

  111. NystromisaSTIFF on

    Rob C March 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Also, I think Cherry is a xenophobic idiot. But that’s neither here nor there.

    LET’S GO RANGERS indeed!

    What don’t you like about Cherry?

  112. NystromisaSTIFF on

    ctrain016 March 20th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    So my question is: If Tocchet felt so strongly against what AO did, then why wasn’t there a 3 hour first period? Would the league have punished Tocchet and all players involved, including AO???

    Tocchet needs to grow a pair then.

    You guys want fighting out of the game and with the instigator penalty it makes it hard to engage in an all out brawl. If I were Paul Ranger I would have taken a run at Ovie kind of like Hunter on Turgeon.

  113. If they did fight after that celebration, would AO be slammed with an instigator penalty and a 10 min game?? HaHa this league is becoming a joke under Buttman.

  114. NystromisaSTIFF March 20th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    In old time videos, you never saw Bobby Orr, Ted Lindsay, Gordie Howe, the Richards celebrate as an individual or certainly trying to show up their opponent.

    Agreed, but this isn’t old time hockey. It’s 2009. I love old stuff too. Old cars, old music, etc. But hockey? the game evolves. Carbon fiber skates, composite sticks, everything faster, stronger… the new NHL is exciting.

    I wish the Rangers were having this much fun:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0dZR7G4Gs

    If TB didn’t want to get shown up, they shouldn’t suck as bad.

  115. Personally, I think it will only take 6 more wins for the NY Rangers to clinch a playoff spot.

    So figure 6-5 record rest of the way…will do it.

    Henrik has 32 totals wins, so maybe he go for 40, giving us 8-3 : )

  116. It didn’t matter who AO scored his 50th against, a bottom feeder or Detroit, he was still going to do the celebration

  117. NystromisaSTIFF on

    March 20th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    NystromisaSTIFF March 20th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    In old time videos, you never saw Bobby Orr, Ted Lindsay, Gordie Howe, the Richards celebrate as an individual or certainly trying to show up their opponent.

    Agreed, but this isn’t old time hockey. It’s 2009. I love old stuff too. Old cars, old music, etc. But hockey? the game evolves. Carbon fiber skates, composite sticks, everything faster, stronger… the new NHL is exciting.

    I wish the Rangers were having this much fun:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0dZR7G4Gs

    If TB didn’t want to get shown up, they shouldn’t suck as bad.

    I love the move Ovie pulled on Pettinger in the neutral zone.

  118. AO’s english is definitely improving….Pretty amazing when athletes come into NHL barely speaking a lick of our language and then start talking like its nothing.

    I took 5 years of Spanish in high school, if you dropped me off in Spain, I would talk like a textbook idiot.

  119. NystromisaSTIFF on

    ctrain016 March 20th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    If they did fight after that celebration, would AO be slammed with an instigator penalty and a 10 min game?? HaHa this league is becoming a joke under Buttman.

    Ovie wouldn’t probably draw a fighting major if a brawl did ensue. I wonder why?

  120. I get the Ovechkin energy, awesomeness, best player of his generation thing. I get that he fills the stands and is an incredible specimen, both talentwise and physically.

    I get the bashing into the boards and jumping 4 feet in the air when either he or a teammate scores. I absolutely love it.

    I think I get why Backstrom and Green didn’t join in the celebration. Sure, they wanted to give him his spotlight… but also I think they felt a little awkward. Choreographed group celebrations? In hockey? I don’t think their hockey conscience would let them.

    “Anybody who is bashing OV is a jealous hater”– Joe in DE

    I kinda agree. But if he keeps testing the boundaries of the hockey code, then I think you’ll see a true anti-ovie fanbase emerge. One that seperates his talents from his antics. Acknowledges that he’s the best player in the world and because of his status as the games greatest player, demand that he stay away from NFL-esque egoism. It’s his duty to set an example.

    Who wants to see a lineman celebrate when he tackles a RB after a gain of 9 on 2nd and 15….when his team is down by 21 in the 4th quarter?

    This is what all the hockey purists fear. Currently Ovie’s NOT EVEN IN THE SAME UNIVERSE OF DOUCHEBAGGERY as the afformentioned lineman, but the purists are too afraid of the implications of Ovie’s acts to cut him any slack.

  121. Any of you guys remember Billy “white shoes” Johnson?

    He was one of the first NHL players to do a crazy dannce (he did the rubber legs dance) after scoring a TD…it was hysterical at the time.

    Problem: There are now 5,000 copycats…its not funny anymore; in fact its become a symptom of “look at me, look at me” generation that took over sports…especially basketball and Football

    I dont like Cherry ( I think he hates foreigners more than celebrations to be honset)

    But I agree with this stance

  122. Part of me thinks “it ain’t bragging if you can back it up”. But at some point you have to show some respect to your opponent. I suppose the big difference between what AO does in goal celebrations and what happens with routine tackles in the NFL is that at least a goal is something to celebrate.

    But yeah, I’m all for letting the game police itself and I’m dreading the day when they decide to assess penalties for goal celebrations.

  123. StockSlaughtersCzerkawski on

    UESBlueshirt March 20th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Part of me thinks “it ain’t bragging if you can back it up”. But at some point you have to show some respect to your opponent. I suppose the big difference between what AO does in goal celebrations and what happens with routine tackles in the NFL is that at least a goal is something to celebrate.

    But yeah, I’m all for letting the game police itself and I’m dreading the day when they decide to assess penalties for goal celebrations.

    The players don’t police, that’s why there are referees and rules to follow. If you let the players act as referees the game would take 5 hours longer to finish. It bothers me when people say let the players police.

  124. Didn’t everyone turn on Renney after the Dallas game? I remember thinking “He’s lost them… he’s lost this team.” Sather knew it too.

    Firing him was the right thing to do… he just waited too long.

    That being said if you asked me before the season started I would have said “Renney’s fine”. Looking back though… I can see how he coached scared. I could see how we would lose 6-5 after being up 5-0, or 4-3 after being up 3-0.

    The game he lost me was the only game at the Garden I saw this year… Dec. 23rd against Washington… Cally with two goals and the Rangers are up 4-0 and lose. I was crushed and it killed my Christmas cheer!

  125. AO went over the line with that one. the proof is the fact that his teammates bailed out on it after seeing how contrived and hokey it was.

    whether you are a fan of his or not, be honest and admit that on this occasion he went over the line.

    jumping for joy spontaneously is fine. pre-arranged Turd Owens style self-aggrandizement is not fine.

  126. brodeurstillsucks on

    I not 100% positive, but I think I remeber Glenn Sather being at the Dallas game too.

  127. CARP

    Is it possible to get one of those “Audio Previews” on this site, like Youtube has ? I love those things, at least the immature part of me does.

    Anyway, that was dumb and lame, what OV did last night, just like the All Star game thing with Malkin, but even so at least he’s having fun. Id rather see that than Crosby kicking his leg back in the air like a pillow biter. Hate that guy.

    As for Cherry, one day OV will get destroyed by a “big guy”, but Cherry probably wont be alive around that time, so he should just leave it alone. He’s a racist scum bag. He only cares aboot Canadians, everyone else doesn’t matter to him. Pretty pathetic.

    Go Rangers !

  128. Yeah Sather was at that Dallas game. Im gonna agree with you Riche’ I really think the team did a big “fu” to him with that loss in Dallas.

  129. PAVEL

    27 i think, but same thing i guess.

    Souray has 20, it’s a real shame Slats didn’t get him two seasons ago, instead he waited for good ol Redden.

    But he has kind of owned up just a little bit for those mistakes with Antro, Morris, and Aves. Hopefully Antro re signs, and i wouldn’t mind Morris as well, he’s looking pretty good, but i think he’s gonna be a rental.

  130. And here we go again… Alex Ovechkin and anti-celebration riot! I don’t see a big deal here at all. The kid is a superstar… Hockey should be fun and exciting and this is what Alex brings! The NHL has never seen a player like him…NEVER! I bet if he was playing in Russia or elsewhere the NHL would love his celebrations and they be talking about how great that would be for the league and for the fans! Well, he is in the NHL and he is the best thing they got right now, there is no reason get on him just because he loves the game and wants to entertain the fans. Isn’t that what we all want, to be entertained? I think the fact that he is European (im not even going to say Russian) has a lot to do with all this bullsh!t that he gets for celebrating goals, because “quite honestly”(remember that one?) what else is there to dog Alex about? NOTHING! So all the conservative fans need to get off his nutz and let the game evolve! The kid scored at least 50 goals in 3 of the four seasons in the NHL, OK? Our beloved “pink underwear” moody girl Cindy never got more than 39 goals, OK? OK…

  131. Re: my comment about Cherry.

    I don’t like Cherry because he is prejudiced towards European players. “Let’s play the game the Canadian way.” All that garbage.

    I agree with everyone above who basically said that spontaneity is okay, pre-planned theatrics are not. Ovechkin is the best, that’s fine, like I said, I generally like him. I wish he was a Ranger. But that stuff just isn’t cool…I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel right.

  132. I dont mind the jumping into the glass ‘spur of the moment’ type celebrations. I think that is GREAT for the sport for someone to show so much enthusiasm… But the premeditated NFL dancing crap can not continue.

    That being said… i’d LOVE to see his reaction to winning the cup.

  133. Nick

    Like I said before. Its not like he premeditated skating to center ice, stood on the Tampa Bay logo and took curtain calls. Or did some retarded break dance. When its an intention “rub it in your face” THAT is when it draws the line. And it clearly wasnt.

  134. bklynblue – thanks for the post from the fan. Sounds like the coach likes Freddie and he is getting time on the third line.

  135. HEY everyone Jimmy here in Florida now I’v been a Ranger fan since 1967 thats right Long time but there are fans around alot longer, was lucky when i was in the hill country in Texas, I also followed the Srars from 1988 to the present and the moved here in 2000 and followed the Lightning also but neither could ever replace My NY Rangers 2 great teams when they one the Cup very much like the 94 Rangers, but my beloved Rangers are the Best. Torts is the Best Couch in the NHL!! Why because he lites fires under his Players Arses Some players really get to hateing Him I seen it here When he coached the Lightining, and tell’s the player’s and Mangement just how he feel’s thats why its him and Shouenfeild sorry for the spelling.But everybody overlookes maybe the best dman in the NHL and that is Dan Gardie Steps up all the time bangs and makes great little plays that if you look back later they become much bigger! yea he gets beat now and again like the rest are and will with Torts coaching!! just needed to reconnect with You ALL lol and put my 2cents in from the peanut gallerey GO RANGERS SOMETHING GOODS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN NY GOD BLESS to you All

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