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I don’t even have a memory from a game at Music City. I think I was only there once. The Predators were barely in the league when I left the beat, and it’s not even like the Rangers have gone there a bunch of times since then. Oh, Tennessee. Such a hockey town!

The Rangers will play the Predators tonight (an 8 p.m. start) for the first time since Oct. 18, 2006, a 3-0 Rangers loss at MSG. All-time the series is 5-4-1-2 in the Rangers favor, and they are 3-1-0-1 in Music City.

Anyway, both teams are in the same boat –fighting for their lives in an ultra-tight playoff race. The Preds have won six of their last eight and are in eighth place in the West with 71 points.

The Rangers, as you know, lost a three-game winning streak Monday and are ninth in the East, but that changes, as John Tortorella said, “hourly.”

And again in this new era under Tortorella, we are left to wonder about this team, and to watch each game not only for the result, but to try to ascertain if these Rangers are good enough to make the playoffs and/or to beat anybody if they get in. To wonder if they can score enough goals, no matter what the system they play. So far, we surely don’t know.

This would probably be a good place for the Rangers to start stringing together some points (even shootout points or OTL points are good when you play against the other conference), especially with the crucial home-and-home matinees against the Flyers looming this weekend.

Henrik “Lunch” Lundqvist is expected to play despite his lingering stomach flu, after sitting out Monday and puking during the Sunday game. The King Is one win shy of becoming the first goalie in NHL history to reach the 30-win plateau in each of his first four seasons, an accomplishment that must be taken with the grain of salt that other goalies may have done it with the benefit of shootouts instead of ties.

And it appears Tortorella will split up Wade Redden and Michal Rozsival, putting Redden with Derek Morris and Rozsival with Paul Mara. That should be interesting.

We’ll check back later if there are any updates.

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For more on the fighting debate, Sam Borden and I are discussing it over at the Faceoff Blog. Also, if you would like to hear NHL VP Colin Campbell’s take on the issue, he will be the guest on Gary Bettman’s Sirius XM radio show from 4-5 p.m. today. You can call in with questions at 1-877-645-6696 or e-mail nhlhour@nhl.com

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Another reminder: LoHud.com is running its annual March Madness bracket challenge. Me and some of my colleagues and fellow blogsters — inlcuding Blogfather Pete Abraham, Sam Borden, Kevin Devaney Jr. and Josh Thomson — will be filling in our brackets by Monday. If you fill in a perfect bracket you can win $100 million. Click here for details, or to enter.

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  1. Carp- any idea why the Rangers play so much better at home then on the road? They’re currently 10 games over .500 at home and 1 game under .500 on road…

    Pretty disconcerting stat, since we’re on the road the next 3 crucial games..

  2. Scotty 2 Hotty on

    Hey Carp that last game at MSG on October 18th was a loss. It was my girlfriends little brothers first game

  3. Is Tennessee one of those rectangular states with the perfectly straight borders?

    I like those

  4. Scotty 2 Hotty on

    maybe Staal and Girardi can take some pointers off Weber on how to correctly QB a PP lol

  5. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Hidy ho folks, yep we have to string together some points, if we want to get into the playoffs. If we don’t then we don’t derserve to be there as simple as that.
    I was hoping this would be a easier (wishful thinking) win tonight. I don’t pay real close attention to the west divisions. Sounds like the Preds are playing pretty good hockey as of late. Oh well I have decided to take a less stressfull aporach, if we win we win if we get to the playofss so be it. This is suppose to be a fun thing to do (watch hockey) not to add stress to my life. Good luck fellows sounds like we might need some tonight.

  6. Carp, you make a good point about that Lundqvist stat. But no one will really take Brodeur surpassing Roy’s career win record “with a grain of salt.” This is not meant to disrespect Brodeur’s accomplishment in any way (even though it’s so tempting), and probably he passes Roy anyway, but Roy’s 551 doesn’t include a single shootout win. I am not sure how many of Brodeur’s 549 were via the shootout, but I would bet if you subtract out the shootout wins, he would be more than 2 wins behind.

  7. Carp We’re a team of support players with no one to support. Lunqvist would have to stand on his head & Gomez, Drury, Naslund & Redden would really have to overachieve for us to make the playoffs & go anywhere. We’re not that good & it’s not going to happen, unless by default and that means other teams running out of gas.

  8. ctrain, I think the home/road records are pretty much that way across the board in the NHL … look at the standings I linked in the post above. You’ll see that teams with good road records are generally the best teams in the league. Everyone else is mediocre or worse on the road. That’s the nature of home-ice advantage.

  9. Scotty 2 Hotty on

    Matteauonov where did you find that stat. I looked in a lot of different sites for it

  10. Huge equipment
    Nuetral Zone traps
    light-weight equipment
    shoot-out wins (that count as wins)
    shoot-out losses (that dont count as losses)

    The modern goalie may be more atheletic but tell JS Giguere he has to start a game in 1976 and he wouldn’t skate onto the ice

  11. I’m class of ’95 to the other Red Foxes out there…

    Carp, How was PO-Town? Did you get to Noah’s Ark (one of my favorite bars and at one point a sponsor of a men’s league hockey team)?

    Certainly not the best city in the world but I had fun there in the early 90’s. Hockey at the Mid-Hudson Civic Center… ahhhh good times.

  12. I agree with Lone Ranger… a bunch of support players with no one to support … Watching Center Ice and all these other teams, I do not think the Rangers will make the playoffs — there really is no high end talent…

  13. Riche,
    Didn’t really venture beyond the Vassar walls, other than a quick Taco Bell stop on the ride home. Going to SUNY New Paltz tomorrow, then to Utica Saturday night. Bringing the sunscreen.

    Just to show you that I really can’t do two things at once (unless one of them is scarfing a burrito at 11 p.m.), I totally screwed up yesterday when I told you I was at Marist. I was at Vassar. Don’t even know where I am anymore. I am at blog headquarters right now. I think.

    Or, as the guy answered Seinfeld and Costanza when they asked where they were: “Earth.”

  14. Scotty 2 Hotty

    In other words…Screw Brodeaur

    It seems like you cant say something nice about Petr Prucha on this board w/o having ten people put him down but now we’re gonna start talkin nice about Marty????

    I hope he’s going for his big win when Avery plays him and Avery blocks his mask’s eye-holes, elbows him in the ear then snaps the elastic on his girdle!!

  15. Scotty 2 Hotty on

    like i said i agree. Brodeur is trash and his records are tainted. Imagine Dominik Hasek with the team Fatso had in front of him. How many more wins could The Dominator have over 100 i’d say

  16. oh im sure one can take a guess and say you most likely said something you shouldnt have.

    you ever done that in the past?
    hmmmm

  17. Isn’t it nice that some of the greatest hockey players are decedents from former USSR aka CCCP? Sawchuk, Gretzky(yes, both are of Ukrainian decent)just to name a few… me so proud…

  18. Gretzky’s paternal and ethnically Polish grandfather Anton (Tony) Gretzky immigrated to Canada via the United States from Grodno Governorate, Russian Empire, now part of Belarus,[10] with his wife Mary of Pidhaytsi, Ukraine.[11] In interviews, Gretzky’s father Walter has stated that his parents were White Russians from Belarus,[12] while on other occasions he has mentioned his family’s Polish ancestry

  19. UESBlueshirt on

    And Sawchuk played with far more cumbersome and less protective equipment. It’s hard to compare stats and accomplishments across generations. And while wins for a goalie are a “bottom line” stat it also shows that Brodeur played for good teams for many years. Did he have a large part in making those teams good? Of course he did. But he never won the Conn Smythe and notice the Devils haven’t advanced as far since Stevens, Niedermayer, Rafalski, et al left the team.

  20. “Gretzky’s paternal and ethnically Polish grandfather Anton (Tony) Gretzky immigrated to Canada via the United States from Grodno Governorate, Russian Empire, now part of Belarus,[10] with his wife Mary of Pidhaytsi, Ukraine.[11] In interviews, Gretzky’s father Walter has stated that his parents were White Russians from Belarus,[12] while on other occasions he has mentioned his family’s Polish ancestry”

    They weened the young children on a diet of corn and rice while Wayne took care of the cows, his brother ran a lemon-aide stand; they were happy this way until the great flood, which destroyed Walters dry cleaning business, the lemon-aide stand and Mrs Gretzky’s favorite curtains….

  21. Everything is relative when it comes to comparing athletes from different eras. Roy didn’t have any shoot-out wins, but let’s not forget, he played on all those Canadian teams that played a suffocating defense, which caused Roy to win many, many games without breaking a sweat. Oh wait, I guess you can compare players from different eras!!Hmmmm.. always wondered how many wins Marty would have if he played his whole career with Columbus or St. Louis or LA or….

    And Callahan is the hands down winner of the Steven Macdonald Extra Effort Award!!!!

  22. No Country For Old Rangers on

    Favorite Rangers/Predators memory: It was 2000 or 2001 but I got free tickets to Rangers/Preds at the garden. I think NYR was probably already out the playoff picture but they played a tight game only to lose in OT on a penalty shot. It must have been Dunham or Blackburn in net. Anyway, it was historic as it was the 1st time a game had been decided on a Penalty shot in OT at the garden or something

  23. can anyone tell me whay I, or anyone else for that matter, needs to know that Henrik Lundqvist has been throwing up between games?

    The guy is sick, enough said, give it a rest already. No need to tell us over and over how sick he is, or that he can’t hold down food.. He is sick! Enough. This is the NHL, a team should be able to keep playing (see the Devils) if indeed one of their players is injured or sick.

    Thank you for not going into it Carp!

    Sheesh!

  24. Vic in Orlando on

    Since it is so quiet a quick dose of reality.
    Right now if the draft were today, the Rangers would pick 14th and would have a .5 chance of drafting first over all.

  25. -taken from about.com

    The selection order in the first round is subject to a lottery, held among the teams that hold the top 14 picks. There is only one winning team in the lottery. That team moves up a maximum of four places in the draft order. The lottery is weighted to favor the teams with the fewest points. It was introduced to prevent a weak team from deliberately losing to guarantee itself a high draft pick.

  26. Orr … you can pretty much say anything … except for the one word you continuously use, and a few others. OK? And I really don’t want to have to keep repeating this. … and the bottom line is most of your comments are really entertaining if you could eliminate the words you know you need to eliminate.

  27. I went to my therapist; he told me I was crazy

    I said I want a second opinion

    He said Ok…you’re ugly too

  28. Carp, not sure if you saw my post last night. Pick up the latest Hockey News, great article by Ken Campbell about Glen Sathers miserable record the last 15 years.

  29. actually, those are more Henny Youngman, or Red Skelton.

    “Just got back from a pleasure trip … took my mother-in-law to the airport.”

    Paul, I did see that story. Good job.

  30. Vic in Orlando March 12th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Since it is so quiet a quick dose of reality.
    Right now if the draft were today, the Rangers would pick 14th and would have a .5 chance of drafting first over all.

    Do you mean .05? .5 means we have a 1 outta 2 chance of getting the first overall pick? hahaha

  31. the doctor told me to go to the window and stick out my tongue. I said why? he said he’s mad at his neighbor.

  32. My wedding anniversary is coming up, my wife said “I want to go someplace I’ve never been.”

    I said, “try the kitchen”.

    No, really. I take my wife everywhere. And she always finds her way back.

  33. A girl phoned me the other day and said… Come on over, there’s nobody home. I went over. Nobody was home.

  34. UESBlueshirt on

    I think the Ragers would be a much better team name. It would make sense to have players like Downie and Chris Simon maybe get McSorely out of retirement.

  35. according to Urban Dictionary-

    Rager:

    A larger gathering usually of highschool or college students where massive amounts of alcohol are consumed

  36. is there a “no extra effort award?” cause i have a name in mind that would definitely be the top runner…

  37. No Country For Old Rangers March 12th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Does Redden have a coke hookup in Nashville?

    a pig will find dirt anywhere

  38. Vic in Orlando on

    evitageN
    .5 is one half of 1 percent chance
    The ranger chances increase the further they slide down in the standings in comparison to the other non playoff teams.
    Right now we are only about 12 points ahead in the standings from possibly getting a shot at the first or second draft pick.
    http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=7027

    I’m still hoping the Rangers make the playoffs.

  39. And the winner is... on

    Glen Sather.

    He should win the S.M. Extra-Effort Award.

    He’s gone ‘above and beyond’ to entirely F-up this organization.

  40. if the SJO fits on

    my wife gave me leftovers the other day…i said “you take out the garbage”

  41. UESBlueshirt on

    No Country,

    The other thing that strikes me about that video is that there’s no gratuitous need to drop the gloves and clutch and grab each other afterwards. I’m so tired of every time there’s a big hit someone from the other team has to “stick up for his teammate” by starting a fight. If they want to crack down on fighting in the league, start with those types of altercations. It’s hockey, you get hit sometimes. Last year I recall Girardi laying a pretty solid hit on one of the Pens in the playoffs and then Crosby has to act all tough and drop his gloves. That’s an instigator minor right there.

  42. Ripped off from HF boards –

    Nashville Injury Report
    Jason Arnott (Upper Body, Questionable)
    Pekka Rinne (Flu, Doubtful)
    Radek Bonk (Wrist, Doubtful)

    Nashville Projected Lineup
    Sullivan-Arnott-Dumont
    Erat-Legwand-Ward
    Pihlstrom-Fiddler-Tootoo
    Smithson-Nichol-Belak

    Weber-Suter
    Hamhuis-Zanon
    De Vries-Klein

    Ellis

  43. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L. on

    Rangers today ,,,yaaaaaaaaaa , im out from under my rock!!! Sure felt awfull losing last game ….Win baby win!!!!!

    (ORR) yeah Carp is refering to that “FUGG” word , ya used it yesterday .

    If Hank is sick , maybe he shouldn’t be playing?

  44. ah my bad ima copy my comment from above

    -taken from about.com

    The selection order in the first round is subject to a lottery, held among the teams that hold the top 14 picks. There is only one winning team in the lottery. That team moves up a maximum of four places in the draft order. The lottery is weighted to favor the teams with the fewest points. It was introduced to prevent a weak team from deliberately losing to guarantee itself a high draft pick.

  45. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L. on

    well…it was chunky , kinda smelt foul and it kinda got on his jersey a little …

  46. Vic in Orlando March 12th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    evitageN
    .5 is one half of 1 percent chance
    The ranger chances increase the further they slide down in the standings in comparison to the other non playoff teams.
    Right now we are only about 12 points ahead in the standings from possibly getting a shot at the first or second draft pick.
    http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=7027

    ——————————————

    Dude you need to take a math class again…

    .05 is half of 1 percent chance

    .5 is equivalent to 1/2 or one half… Been a while since you used decimals I take it?

    I’m still hoping the Rangers make the playoffs.

  47. C’mon, Orr. You’re killing me. The word I’m banning is actually a curse word, not a made-up word. Need a hint? It starts with S and it’s not Sather.

    onecup, thanks for the video. it took me a minute to get it. At first I thought you were being romantic. I’m glad you weren’t. You weren’t, right?

  48. HockeymanRangers on

    I am checking out the Flyers Caps game for an hour. I like this match up I am rooting for the Caps. Breir is back tonight for a game and after tonight should be out again for the rest of the season. Actually that’s not nice, I don’t like to wish injury to any player.

  49. Don’t know if anyone mentioned this yet, but Rangers receive a compensatory draft pick for Cherepanov, 17th pick of the 2nd round.

  50. HockeymanRangers on

    Pierre
    I saw that on Zipay’s blog. I was surprised that they gave it to us, but this is a good thing.

  51. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L. on

    the only S word Orr used was Slats!!!?? Or Rick , did you erase the word right out of his post!!!?? WOW what powers!!!use them wisely my friend and maybe you can conjure up a Ranger Wock a buck !!!!yeahhhh!!!

  52. Hey guys… does anyone know any other streaming broadcast of the game? Atdhe.net and channelsurfing.net don’t have a link for it.

    I’m a displaced Ranger fan originally from Long Island, but I go to college in Oneonta…which means I get Sabre games instead of Ranger games :(

  53. Mike D, where? You mean blog HQ? Or do you think I’m in the city of Tennessee?

    CCCP, it’s not Straka and it’s not Strudwick. It’s not Shack or Sandstrom or Sanderson or Seiling or Shanahan or Simon or Sator, either. Do you remember Petr Smrek? He was the “thick” kid they got in the Gusarov trade in ’01. It’s not Smrek, either.

  54. HockeymanRangers on

    sweet pete
    Your close to my home town Unadilla NY. I now reside in southern PA. But as far as your question I don’t know of any other feeds. You do know it’s a 8 start tonight right.

  55. Yeah hockeyman, i was just curious because when the Sabres aren’t playing and the Rangers are I get the Ranger game. So I was about to turn on the Rangers pregame to see that the Sabres are also playing.

  56. HockeymanRangers on

    Sweet Pete
    I have been visiting family up there and had that problem, it really really sucks. When there I then wish I was home in pa Center ice

  57. “Dude you need to take a math class again…
    .05 is half of 1 percent chance
    .5 is equivalent to 1/2 or one half… Been a while since you used decimals I take it?
    I’m still hoping the Rangers make the playoffs.”

    Actually, .05 is 5%, .005 would be half of 1 percent

  58. Rick Carpiniello
    March 12th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    CCCP, it’s not Straka and it’s not Strudwick. It’s not Shack or Sandstrom or Sanderson or Seiling or Shanahan or Simon or Sator, either. Do you remember Petr Smrek? He was the “thick” kid they got in the Gusarov trade in ‘01. It’s not Smrek, either.

    —-

    Rick, u make it very interesting… was he talking about getting Skrudland in his Schneider? :)

  59. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L. on

    yeah Rick , I’d say you run this blog better than the last guy…

    Lets go Rangers , Lets go!!!!!

    Time to shine , time to attack!!

    Last game the pre anouncers and when they anounced stuff in betweeen peroids , They say..Those Rangers are on ya all the time attacking and being agressive …Torts makes this team good!!!!

    Torts don’t have to “crack ” his eggs before he makes them…they get so scared they crack themselves!!!

    Avery vs TooToo , hope Avery has his head up!!!!

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