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D-Day (updated)

Posted by: Carp - Posted in Uncategorized on Mar 04, 2009

Just wanted to let you know that Jane is going over to practice today and she will come back with a report on Sean Avery’s return and first practice.

Then throughout the day, as we come across info, or as trades happen we will have updates here.

Redden for Bouwmeester isn’t happening, so don’t get your hopes too high.
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Here’s the first one we’ve heard today: Columbus traded Pascal Leclaire and a second-round pick to Ottawa for Antoine Vermette.
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The Sporting News is reporting that Chris Pronger has been given a 100 percent promise that he will not be traded today.

Sorry, that should have been “has not been given a 100 percent promise …” but he is not expected to be moved.

 
 
 
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208 Responses to “D-Day (updated)”


  1. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Keep Pruuuuuuuu-CHA !

  2. MAKO

    KEEEEEP PRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHAA!!!!!

  3. Agravaine

    oh durn I was really hoping that would work out Carp… ;P

  4. Joeybriggs

    This is probably a repost, but here are some numbers..
    http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=NYR&season=0809

  5. LIQUID

    Someone please post the Pruuucha youtube song link….thanx! lol

  6. Roc

    Trade Prucha!! Milan Hejduk would be a great pick. Hes on the books for 4 million next year also. Bring him in to play with drury.

  7. somerset

    If we give Burke a 1st rounder for Antropov, then Burke should take a salary dump as well.

    Antropov and White for Kalinin and a 1st

  8. Agravaine

    LIQUID

    if you ask it it will come:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_esCf2GSTI

  9. Jay

    ...if only Redden could be moved.

  10. yessiree bob

    we need to go after Kovalchuk—
    Rozsival, Betts, Gomez, and Dawes or Callahan for Kovalchuk and Armstrong.

    Sjostrom, Voros, Parenteau or Pyatt and 3rd rounder for Antropov.

  11. Agravaine

    somerset, dump the guys who don’t expire this year, Kal is off the books soon enough

  12. UESBlueshirt

    I think when it comes to Sather asking to send Kalinin to Leafs, the words “Burke” and “dump” won’t involve salary.

  13. Roc

    If we give the Maple Leafs a first round pick for Antropov we should give them Rosy also.

  14. Agravaine

    bob the gm of Atl just said he is absolutely not trading Kovulchuk under any circumstance on tsn

  15. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    The Devils traded Clarkson, Oduya, and a 1st round pick to the Wild for Gaborik

    http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269573&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl=Gaborik

  16. Roc

    good try orr

  17. Buck

    Pruch Goal song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSb9f3bYntE

  18. jeffluke

    ??????!??!!!!!??

  19. Agravaine

    Orr the link is about Leclaire

  20. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Lol, c’mon what kind of deadline would this be without a fake trade ?

    It’s one of the best parts of the trade deadline. It takes the seriousness out of it. Of course you have to have a good sense of humor.

  21. MAKO

    Agra –
    Orr is just being Orr. Its not real…

  22. New Newman

    I keep seeing this “Trade Betts” commentary here.

    This has to be one of the most disagreed with comments on this blog.

    Great PK guy, great shot blocker, knows how to play defensive hockey, knows where to be on the ice at all times, and one of the lowest priced assets we have. What am I missing people?

    In this new Torts’ system, we need a few guys who have defense-first, smart positional-hockey mentality.

    I am puzzled by the “Trade Betts” comments. Really.

    Someone educate me on this.

  23. Roc

    Orr- I was ready to kill myself after that post.

  24. jeffluke

    boy, the text for that link sure looked real!

  25. Agravaine

    yea I got that…

    stupid me… might as well have been rick rolled…

  26. Agravaine

    Newman,

    I don’t get it becuase we aren’t going to get better for less than Betts either… same with Orr… and under TOrts their lack of offense isn’t so crippling since they see minimal ice time… I would hate to be holding a kid back in those minutes..

    so in short… I don’t get it either

  27. Brandon

    Orr, you bastard, I just had a mini-heart attack.

  28. Peter

    Jovocop, anyone? How about Eric Cole?

  29. MAKO

    Yeah I went straight to the devils site for that one. UGH. Dont eff with us like that man LOL

    Newman
    RE: Betts, its obvious that some ppl on here dont know the value of a defensive forward. They all think that the 4th line has to score the same amount of goals as all three LOL

  30. don waddell

    you mean the guy who could not even hit an empty net to clinch a game at MSG recently? you mean the guy who cannot even get his team into the playoffs? or the guy who got swept 4 straight by the Rangers a few years ago?

  31. Brandon

    Betts may be our most reliable and unique player. Why would we trade him?

  32. Adam Z.

    Newman, Betts ice time has dropped markedly since Torts took over. He has said publicly that he is not a four-line coach and that his top players will get the lion’s share of the ice time. He has also begun using at least three sets of forwards for the PK. In other words, Betts value in the new system is reduced substantially. Moreover, his strong play this season has increased his trade value. At this point in time, we could get more for him that we might otherwise deserve. He’s the epitome right now of buy low, sell high(er).

  33. jason

    Can we trade Orr for Bob?

  34. Stu

    Redden for a bag of used pucks?

  35. Matt R

    heres why i think we should trade betts. we all know we dont have a legit scorer and i think the only way we can win is if we have 4 lines who can score. thats why i think we should trade betts.

  36. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Lol, sorry Roc.

    Imagine that really did happen later though. Id never come back to the blog.

    When does the deadline end ?

  37. LIQUID

    New Newman,

    Betts is an UFA at the end of the season. Asimonov may be NHL ready next year. Rangers have decent amount of guys who play center or could play if need be –
    Gomez, Dubinsky, Drury, Korpedo, Avery, Mark Bell

    Betts has a big heart, but his skillset for scoring goals is close to zero. His blocked shots this year are down. And his faceoff % this year is marginal.

  38. MAKO

    4 hours and 20 min left

  39. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Haha, little jason cant take a joke ? How can you live with all that seriousness ?

    That guy on Hockeybuzz (Not Eklund) is saying that Tkachuk is saying. That’s good to hear, i hope he’s right.

  40. jeffluke

    3pm est.

    that fake trade got my adrenaline going…

  41. stf

    Good pick for Ottawa. Jackets want to make Playoffs and overpaid.

  42. somerset

    I DONT THINK YOU TRADE BETTS THIS YEAR. HE’S A UFA IN THE SUMMER, AND YOU LET HIM WALK THEN IF AA IS READY TO PLAY FOR US

  43. Dallas

    Redden for Jordan leopold or derek morris anyone to get rid of the awful contract redden has

  44. jason

    I have a bad feeling this is going to be one of the worst/most boring deadline days in a long time, I hope I’m wrong and a few GM’s start pulling Mike Milburys!

  45. UKRanger

    I’m for keeping Betts, he’s a great PKer and good value for money. He is likely to generate some interest as some of the teams will be looking for someone of his skillset to man their 4th line going into the playoffs. However, if someone is offering a high draft pick or very good prospect Slats should do it and call up Ansimov or Moore.

  46. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.

    Dominic Moore to the Rangers for Blair betts , just anounced on TSN.

  47. No Country For Old Rangers

    boooo-ring.

    stay glued to your tv set

  48. costanza

    Do you think Sather is awake yet?

  49. Prucha25

    I love that Prucha song. I hope we hear it a lot at MSG!

  50. jason

    Ha, no way!

  51. Agravaine

    I do as well Prucha25

  52. Pavel

    Buffalo – Sign F Tim Connolly to a two-year, $9M contract extension

    bahahahahahahahahaha

  53. NYRBLUE23

    Jason, there will be plenty of trades today but there won’t be any “blockbusters”. Unfortunately I doubt the Rangers will make any big trades either. I expect Sather to try and bring in a bigger forward and possibly a physical defensemen. By 3 pm the Rangers will make 1 MAYBE 2 trades. AND Redden is here to stay.

  54. No Country For Old Rangers

    enough with the fake trades you unoriginal bastards

    rangers sign theo fleury to minor league contract

  55. Prucha25

    YAWN!!!

  56. jeffluke

    Pavel

    Gaborik and his agent have to be giddy over that connolly contract. Looks like he’ll stay at 7.5 mill.

  57. somerset

    NYRBLUE23 …

    totally agree

  58. Mikey NJ

    YEah really
    stop the bull trades already everyone
    It WAS funny yesterday, not its jsut stupid

  59. Phil

    Please, please, please Glen Sather, trade Betts. Trade him for a player, a prospect, and draft pick, anything. Just get him off this team.

  60. UESBlueshirt

    Just sent my Sabres friend an over/under for the amount of games Connolly plays the next two years. I took the under of 100.

  61. MAKO

    WTF is this hatred for Betts? Him and LQ are least you ppl should worry about.

  62. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.

    ok ok serious city here man …Petr Prucha still picks a peck of pickled Pruchas!!

  63. Gary G.

    [10:54am] Just over 4 hours until the trade deadline. Just received a text from a New York source telling me the Rangers are interested in Mark Recchi.

    Source: The Fourth Period

  64. NYRinPHX

    More recent chatter on getting Recchi

  65. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.

    YO , anyone tell me why certain names are Highlighted on here…can’t seem to fig that one out.

  66. UESBlueshirt

    The trade I would most want to see..

    Minn trades G Backstrom to Wash for C Backstrom.

  67. kph

    No Recchi. urgh.

  68. MAKO

    Posted something off of their last night about Recchi.

  69. Agravaine

    Greg

    screennames? becuas eyou put in a link

  70. stf

    No Recchi PLEASE!!! He sucks!

  71. jason

    Recchi will cost us a lot less but how much more does he have in the tank? I understand he won a cup with the Canes a few years ago after a trade but that was a few years ago.

    I’m with Mako, I don’t get all of this Betts hate. He is a role player and he is comfortable and good in the role he plays. Every team needs them.

  72. NYRBLUE23

    Over at thefourthperiod.com they are reporting that the Rangers are interested in Recchi. I think that would be a BIG mistake for the Rangers. Recchi does bring a ton of experience but he doesn’t answer the size or the scoring problems.

  73. NYRinPHX

    10:57am] Detroit Red Wings are looking for a 3rd line forward. They’re looking at Chris Neil (OTT) and Blair Betts (NYR).

  74. jason

    Are the Devils going to be picking up Miro Satan on waivers today?

  75. cwgatti

    I think Recchi is coming here. For Dawes & a low pick.

  76. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.
    • AHH I think I fig it out!!!
  77. cwgatti

    Dandenault wouldn’t be a bad fit in Tort’s system. . . .

  78. stf

    Would you really have Moore over Betts? With his triple as much salary salary? Betts is the one of the few players on our roster that plays up to his contract so please stop this hate b/s.

  79. Jagr's Father

    I would like to see Antrapov come over but if Sather gives up our 1st rounder he deserves to be shot. This guy can be had for much less and a creative savy GM will be able to pull it off. Dont think Sather is that GM though.

  80. DanNYC

    ANyone else read that the lightning actually tried to offer a straight swap of Marc Staal for Ryan Malone?

  81. NYRBLUE23

    Also, for you Betts haters, the Red Wings are showing interest.

  82. UESBlueshirt

    Is Dandenault a forward or defense these days? I know on Detroit they used him as both.

  83. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.

    Recchi for Dawes is kinda trading youth for old guys again …Recchi and Dawes play alike but Recchi is more solid . Dawes is younger and has an upside ..I don’t know if I like that trade!!??

  84. stf

    cwgatti – Recchi is on waivers so what are you talking about??!

  85. Agravaine

    Dan I saw that and heard they were told to get lost

  86. DanNYC

    Yea, so Sather at least has SOME sense let in him Ag, though I wouldn’t venture to say much

  87. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.

    Marc Staal for Malone!!!!!???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah , they WISHHHH!!!! KEEP BETTS , KEEP PRUCHA!!! Betts is better than Moore. We already have Avery SS , we don’t need Moores!!

  88. UESBlueshirt

    Does the TB GM realize that even if Sather completely lost his marbles and approved that we don’t have that cap space? Are they letting Esposito run things down there again?

  89. jeffluke

    UESBlueshirt

    just wrote my Sabres fan friend:

    “Connolly 2yrs – 9 million! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! that 9 million is going straight to some brain surgeon in Switzerland! (don’t know why I kid, just heard that the rangers are aggressively pursuing mark recchi….)”

  90. somerset

    what a slap in the face to Tort’s (who says they want to add size to the lineup) and Sather goes out and gets Avery and Recchi

  91. DanNYC

    well, Dominic Moore was so wildly successful last time he was here…..... ugh

  92. Just a thought

    I think you won’t see much action until after we see what happened with all waivered people yesterday.

  93. dickie dunn

    Rangers trade wade redden, david karpa, and igor ulanov for Charlestown Chiefs Hanson bros.

  94. Jagr's Father

    No way Recchi comes here. He’s 41 why would he want to come to a bubble team that has NO chance of going deep into the playoffs even if they make it. He is a good fit for a team that is built to win now and just needs some fine tuning and leadership. No way he comes here no freakin way.

  95. Pavel

    Recchi would be free (waivers). We need an Antropov, but he’s UFA..

  96. jcalz88

    hey guys, just wanted ti announce the rangers have signed me. im a 20 yr old college student who plays hockey in adult leagues im 6 foot 5 two fifty they needed size and im taking the league minimum.

  97. DanNYC

    jcalz88 is an improvement over Redden

  98. bull dog line

    not a betts hater, but his name has come up with chicago and detroit. he is easily replaced, tortorella has allready said that he is going to use his best players on the PK so they dont sit for 2min. plus tortorlla has also said he wants more grit and size on the 3rd and 4th lines, betts brings alot of things, grit isnt one of them.

  99. NYRinPHX

    I really hpoe Philly doesn’t get Jay-Bo!

  100. NYCWickedWrister

    Anyone got a link for a tsn online video feed?

  101. NYRinPHX

    Oops -HOPE

  102. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Dumb move by the Sabs, they should have traded Connolly. He is decent, but never healthy.

    I hope Nyr doesn’t get Recchi. I just cant see him doing much with Nyr. And if he comes, then Pruchs is definitely gone.

    I really don’t care if we trade Betts or not. Korpedo can center that 4th line if anything.

  103. New Newman

    Thanks for the insight on Betts. I hear some logic. I still think he is more valuable to this team than he would be trying to get something for him.

    Does it help this team to get just a draft pick for him? I mean fine, he is a UFA this year. But what would be the purpose of the trade? Draft picks are a coin flip (at best) anyway.

    The goal in moving Betts would be to just move him and get something for him as he is worth nothing at season’s end? I don’t see how that helps us for the playoffs.

    Can we realistically solve any of our playoff needs by moving him?

  104. Agravaine

    this is tsn video

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/habsvision

  105. Agravaine

    Newman no and we can only hurt other players by giving them five minutes a game…

  106. bob mckenzie

    with guys being signed or pulled off the market, there is not much left for the vultures to pick at except the usual suspects and guys already waived or named and sat out

    look for a few minor deals, about 20.

  107. Agravaine

    I mean bringing up kids you want them to atleast get a solid amount of minutes, say ten… for what we are paying Betts might as well have him there

  108. UESBlueshirt

    Yeah JBo to the Flyers would be bad because I think it would actually really help the Panthers if they get the right haul for him.

    Let’s be honest, top 4 in the conference is a long shot for the Rangers so I’m more concerned about what the other bubble teams do than teams that are comfortably ahead of us in the standings.

  109. bull dog line

    new newman,
    do we realistically solve any of our playoff needs by keeping him? the approach of this team is starting to change, betts really doesn’t fit anymore. to me he would seem to have some value to a team trying to win it all, he could be the role player that he was never aloud to be with the Rangers.(he was overused by renney so he played a bigger role on the rangers than he would on a cup contender.)

  110. Peter

    Gary Roberts is on waivers not Recchi.

    This is a bad move for the Rangers. Should have signed Shanahan 6 months ago if they were gonna do this…

  111. bob mckenzie

    I say Recchi goes to Canes or Pens

  112. LIQUID

    Say no to Recchi please

  113. New Newman

    bulldog line…for once we agree 100%. i think if he is going to go somewhere, it has to be to a Cup contender who wants that role player, PK, faceoffs, defensive forward and are willing to give up something significant.

    i don’t love moving betts for draft picks.

  114. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    PETER

    Exactly. Even though Recchi has aboot 40 points or so, it’s basically the same fuggin thing. They probably could have had him a month ago, instead of letting the Devs get him.

    It’s a waste. So now we have to give up Pruchs, or someone for him ? BS !!

  115. stf

    Right Peter. Why would we give up anything for Recchi now while we could have Shanny free. Don’t be stupid Slats!

  116. Agravaine

    Jokinen to Flames no word on what Coyotes will get back… but another team needs to be involved to make the cap room for the flames since the yotes don’t want salary back… not official its on the tsn feed

  117. Gary G.

    Olli Jokinen to calgary

  118. "Caffeine" Curious

    Betts deserves more fan respect. Sure, he should score more, but he’s a huge contributor to this team. Imagine if we gave up more goals on the PK. Team would have no wins.

  119. Chris F.

    So can we all rest easy—is Voros gone?

  120. czechthemout.....

    This league has become so boring that even a traditional busy day like dead line day now sucks as well. One trade just awfull.

  121. MAKO

    I love it NHL.com is getting all of their information from TSN. BETTMAN YOU’RE A TOOL!!!!!!!

  122. billynj1

    [11:27am] Just received a heads up that TSN is reporting the Flames are close to acquiring Olli Jokinen from Phoenix.
    TFP

  123. yessiree bob

    Penner, Schremp and Cole for Betts, Sjostrom and Gomez.

  124. bob mckenzie

    the league will hold back announcement of some trades until the NHL Live show begins in a half hour. they are giving a free preview of the NHL Network, and want to make a splash.

  125. Jive

    I love how people want to get rid of Betts. Saying he isnt good for the new system and we have Anisimov for next year.

    You want Anisimov to replace Betts next year? You really want a young kid playing 8 minutes a game on the 4th line with Orr and Sjostrom or whoever they sign to replace them?

    You dont call up young talent playing 23 minutes a game in Hartford to be your 4th line center int he NHL. That’s retarded.

    Keep Betts, hes 600k a year and one of the best PK’ers and a solid faceoff man. Stop being shortsighted, you dont need superstars on your 4th line. 4th line needs to be cheap and effective to save the cap room for your top 3 lines. Betts hits on ALL of these qualities.

  126. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    BOB

    Is that on NHL.com ?

  127. loneranger

    Ageed Caffeine. See what happens to our pk when Betts is gone. He’s the most underated player on the team.

  128. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Damn Jokinen to the Flames. Ouch. They might actually get past the 1st round this year.

  129. Domi28

    Peter
    March 4th, 2009 at 11:22 am
    Gary Roberts is on waivers not Recchi.

    This is a bad move for the Rangers. Should have signed Shanahan 6 months ago if they were gonna do this…

    Like beating a dead horse

  130. Jive

    From the fourth period:

    [11:33am] A head scratcher… Rangers have inquired about Martin St. Louis of the Lightning.

  131. Pavel

    We could’ve acquired Jokinen at the draft. I think he just went for a 2nd!

  132. bob mckenzie

    Olli (no d) Jokinen. he had to be traded to a certainty to ever make the playoffs in a 10 year career

    was a huge blunder for phoe

    meanwhile, Fla got better without him

  133. Roc

    Jokinen to the Flames? At least hes not coming back east that S.O.B kills us.

  134. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    LONERANGER

    One guy getting traded isn’t gonna ruin our PK. Avery is a good penalty killer, so it’s not like we’re throwing Orr, or someone who doesn’t kill penalties in his spot.

    Nyr fans are making a big deal over him, like if he goes the whole team defensively fall apart. With all due respect, c’mon, gimme a break. He’s a valuable player, but losing him wont help us, or hurt us.

  135. billynj1

    Something is going on

    [11:33am] A head scratcher… Rangers have inquired about Martin St. Louis of the Lightning.

  136. billynj1

    Sorry Jive…. Missed your post

  137. Beuk

    Leopold from AVS to Flames for Nycholat per TSN

  138. Roc

    Didnt the flames pick Nycholat up on waviers?

  139. DanNYC

    I can’t get the TSN feed working, anyone else on a mac? something I need to download

  140. TK

    I’m on a Mac. Try this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/habsvision

    Leopold to Calgary.

  141. Roc

    DanNYC- I have mac and had alittle problems at first.

  142. Agravaine

    Dan

    I have a mac

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/habsvision

    its working for me

  143. Phil

    If Betts wanted to be strictly a defensive player, he should’ve become a defenseman (and a stay at home one at that). Everyone, including the 4th line has to produce offense, especially in the ‘new’ NHL where the PK takes up a substantial amount of playing time. You need that guy who can chip in 10-15 goals a year along with a few shorties. Betts doesn’t give you that whatsoever, nor does he bring an intimidating presence. He isn’t mean, he doesn’t fight. So he blocks shots, whooptie friggin doo. Face it, the only reason he lasted this long on this team is because he was one of Renney’s pets. Any real coach would’ve sent him packing long ago, the way Tortorella hopefully will by 3PM this afternoon. Fanboys, spare me your tears.

  144. DanNYC

    Thanks guys, randomly started working on the third try to open it

  145. loneranger

    ORR Could’nt disagree with you more, but that’s what makes a horserace.

  146. Beuk

    Yep, Nycholat was picked up on waivers

  147. No Country For Old Rangers

    NO RECCHI!

  148. blair house

    betts is a ufa, so he is likely gone anyway this summer

  149. Gary G.

    TFP is saying that the Rangers are pretty active. Hope we see something today.

  150. Prucha25

    Rangers interested in St Louis?????

  151. Prucha25

    St Louis to NY???

    *DROOLING!!

  152. jeffluke

    Question for all you amateur GM’s:

    when a trade happens and they list “for prospect,or for draft pick,or player to be named later, etc.” How do they then determine who the player will be?

  153. Buster

    Betts is the longest tenured NYR on the roster right now…who gets that honorable title when he’s gone?

  154. UKRanger

    that fits with our lack of size – him and Petr Prucha will take it in turns to stand on each others shoulders..!

  155. Jagr's Father

    Keith Jones saying if Martin St Louis is available to rangers they should jump on it. Something is brewing i think this one happens. Good player and all but whats he gonna do for our future. I would pass on this one but Sather wont so looks like we got another midget on the team.

  156. LIQUID

    The only Blair I wanna see is the snooty beeyotch from “The Facts of Life”....

    The Ny Rangers Blair Betts plays to much like Mrs. Garrett

  157. Agravaine

    Buster

    Prucha I think

  158. New Newman

    Phil…our leading scorer has 20 goals (assume 25 in 82g season) and you want Betts to score 15 as our 4th line center? You lost me there.

  159. Mike

    guys here is a new website i fonud yesterday that claims they will also have up to the minute trade deadline stuff. it looks like its worth a look.

    http://www.maxhockey.com

  160. blair house

    “Rangers interested in St Louis?????”

    is the arch included?

  161. Stuart

    recchi for dawes would be the same insanity that kept the rangers out of the playoffs for 8 years.

    recchi is 40 + yrs old…dawes is 24, give me a break…....

  162. Jive

    Anyone want to complain abt St Louis since Torts asked for size and St Louis is 4 foot 2?

  163. Baumer582

    Phil,

    So based on what you’re saying, would you say John Madden sucks? He’s only got 6 goals this year. I suppose that one Selke Trophy he won a few years back means nothing then…

    If you actually watch Ranger games and see Betts on the ice expecting a goal, you should probably start watching women’s golf or curling.

    Betts is easily one of the best defensive forwards in the game, and is without a doubt one of the top 4 penalty killers. It’s not his job to score goals! Sure, Renney played him more than he should have, but so far, it seems Torts uses his 4th line properly: use it in spot duty or when you need to throw a tough guy out there..

    This isn’t the late 80’s – early 90’s when a third line player scored 30 goals. Hockey in general has become more tactical and defense oriented, even with the new rule changes. Get over yourself, thinking every Ranger can score 20 goals. Won’t happen.

    Now, if you were to say Gomez should shoot more and pot 20, then I’d say you had a point…

  164. LIQUID

    The players from 2005-06

    Henrik, Rozy, Prucha

    I would guess they would be longest tenured NYRs

  165. cwgatti

    I told you the day Torts was hired to lok out for Marty St Louis. I am not crazy about it. . . . but Torts is.

  166. MAKO

    Buster

    Either Prucha or LQ.

    KEEEEEEEEEEP PRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHA!!!!

  167. jeffluke

    Flames have one of the deepest D’s in the league

  168. New Newman

    BTW here is something I just found out and it shocked me. Colton Orr is a 14, the worst on the team now. That is an eye opener. I love Colton for what he brings but I would not have guessed he was the WORST +/ on the team now.

  169. Pavel

    Trade anyone but Staal and Dubinsky in a package to get St. Louis and Artyukin!

  170. Phil

    New Newman, the difference is our top guys can and would normally have more goals. Betts on the other hand could be on a line with Crosby and Malkin and have Scotty Bowman behind the bench and he’d still put up 9 points a year.

  171. New Newman

    Not sure what is up with the strike through my typing though…

  172. jeffluke

    blues trade andy wosnieski to pens for danny richmond.

    hmmmm. just learned to NHL’ers names…

  173. MAKO

    Baumer

    Its useless to talk sense to ppl who make no sense. Remember that game where he put on a PK CLINIC!! He blocked 2 shots, broke his stick, blocked another 2 shots and kicked the puck out of the zone. I mean the guy was all over the place. It was highlighted because that series of plays was just outstanding. He plays like that every night its just not highlighted like it was that night. If someone cant see that, then they cant say they are a fan of hockey.

  174. blair house

    Pittsburgh Acquires

    D Andy Wozniewski
    11:39am et

    St. Louis Acquires

    D Danny Richmond

  175. Mark (the orginal)

    Coyotes backup Tellqvist to Buffalo.

  176. New Newman

    Phil….last year….Jagr and Drury had 24 each, Shanny had 23, and Gomer had 16….Avery had 15…everyone else had less than 15….and Betts at 4th line center should have 15?? Re-read Baumer 582 please.

  177. jeffluke

    *two damn homonyms.

  178. Roc

    Eric Reitz Clamied by Maple Leafs

  179. DanNYC

    Voros clears waivers, Reitz to Toronto

  180. Mark (the orginal)

    Reitz claimed by Toronto

    Voros cleared
    Satan cleared

  181. Beuk

    Toronto acquires Reitz from waivers

  182. Riguere

    Voros cleared waivers. Reitz is now a Leaf.

  183. Gary G.

    [12:03pm] Holy smokes… Martin Gerber is in Toronto. Leafs claim Gerber and Erik Reitz off waivers… Dallas claims Brendan Morrison off waivers… Pittsburgh claims Craig Adams off waivers…

  184. Jagr's Father

    Miro Satan passes thru waivers as well as Roberts.

  185. Paul

    Marty St Louis is what we don’t need. 5’8 ,32 or 33 years old. Remember our division has alot of big teams which is not good for a smaller player, and they is no Vinny on the team to help out Marty.

  186. Pavel

    Did you guys hear Reitz was picked up by Toronto? Geez.

  187. NYRBLUE23

    Rangers lose Reitz on waivers.

  188. Beuk

    ok, waivers are done now. Hopefully some trades start happening now.

  189. DanNYC

    What does St Louis make?

  190. Agravaine

    dan

    I dunno nhl by the numbers is understandably not working

  191. Agravaine

    new post

  192. ORR's Right Hand + Redden, Gomez & Drury's Jaw's = Freedom !!

    Does anyone have a link to one of those deadline things ? The one on NHL.com isn’t working for me.

  193. Pavel

    St. Louis is a 6m/y cap hit….................

  194. doogie747

    With Calgarys Giordano out indefinitely shoulder surgery , Leopold is just a renter for the spring

  195. Pavel

    http://tradetracker.thescore.com/ Enjoy! It updates automatically.

  196. Gary G.

    Another trade… Coyotes trade Mikael Tellqvist to Buffalo for a 4th round pick.

  197. jeffluke

    New Newman

    Colton’s +/- is meaningless.

    and anyway he’s right there with betts, sjo, stall, and rozi. They should develop a new “defensive statistic” for 4th line players. +/- is as useless as RBI’s in baseball.

  198. doogie747

    orr tsn is pretty up to date

    http://www.tsn.ca/

  199. UESBlueshirt

    new post up

  200. Phil

    New Newman, I’m aware of how many goals Jagr, Drury, Shanny and Gomer had last year. I’m also aware that they all played under Renney’s dreadful nofense “system”.

    As I said earlier, no matter who Betts plays with, and regardless of who coaches him, he can’t produce offense. He’s the quintessential Renney player—no hands, no intimidation, no nothing. There’s no reason for Torts to keep him, especially when he’s made clear he has no intention of rolling 4 lines. If you’re going to send that 4th line out there a couple of times a period, the least they can do is wreak havoc. When was the last time the 4th line added energy or scored that rare chip-in goal to change a games momentum? Exactly, it just doesn’t happen when “Bettsy” is out there. Lastly, anyone who compares Madden to Betts should consider following a different sport.

  201. CCCP

    Sather is laying low so far… is it a good thing or a bad thing?

  202. Jive

    since when was RBI’s a worthless baseball stat?

  203. No Country For Old Rangers

    blair betts blows and who cares about reitz?

  204. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L.

    Hey (New Newman) I have a wishhh list of who I want us to trade for!!!! Ya wanna know!!!??? Awww come on , ya don’t care ….? Come on…listen ,, it’s perty good!! Fine…then.

    I have a few fantasy lines to brag about just for you Newman!!! Yeah here it is , my new” Lamers Line”

    • Salty Peanutz – New Newman – True fans
  205. noonan

    I will never understand the hate for Betts or Orr. They do their jobs. With Reitz and Voros waived what the hell else do you want?

    “ANyone else read that the lightning actually tried to offer a straight swap of Marc Staal for Ryan Malone?”

    Funniest thing I’ve heard all day.

  206. Doris from Rego Park

    I am hearing Redden for Matthieu Schneider

  207. Pavel

    All the big trades happen in the last 2 hours.

  208. tyree

    Ollie to Flames. Good deal for Pheonix



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