Comments on: Tortorella on Avery, and the deadline http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/ News and insight about the New York Rangers by Rick Carpiniello Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:26:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jpg http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149353 jpg Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:58:49 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149353 yes, but don't forget that the team wanted to get faster and Shanny wasn't going to fit in with that. also he may not have worked with Tortorella's system. i don't know how he's doing in New Jersey, but let's face it it's a perfect situation for him. he doesn't have to be THE MAN. he can blend and let Parise and/or others carry the load while Shanny can offer support (and not receive as much defensive attention because he's just one piece of the overall puzzle) yes,
but don’t forget that the team wanted to get faster
and Shanny wasn’t going to fit in with that.
also
he may not have worked with Tortorella’s system.

i don’t know how he’s doing in New Jersey,
but let’s face it
it’s a perfect situation for him.
he doesn’t have to be THE MAN.
he can blend and let Parise and/or others
carry the load while Shanny can offer support
(and not receive as much defensive attention because
he’s just one piece of the overall puzzle)

]]> By: Nelson http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149345 Nelson Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:55:41 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149345 Dawes and Prucha are definitely going to get moved... :( Dawes and Prucha are definitely going to get moved… :(

]]> By: Nelson http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149342 Nelson Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:52:45 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149342 We needed a good first line, we went and got Avery? For 1.9mil, we could have gotten Shanny. Sigh. We needed a good first line, we went and got Avery?

For 1.9mil, we could have gotten Shanny.

Sigh.

]]> By: jpg http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149315 jpg Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:33:03 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149315 actually i'm a little surprised that a lot of these players are going on waivers rather than being traded for a pick or as part of a package. maybe someone knows more about this. is it a matter that cap space has to come about before bringing on a player. i.e. the Rangers could not pick up a player who would put us over the cap limit and then waive/trade someone. they have to make the space before picking up the player. still, it's an interesting change from the past and i wonder if it something like that will be addressed in the next CBA because if i'm a current NHL player who finally hit a good payday and then i find myself back in the minors traveling around on a bus, especially if i'm down there only because of a numbers crunch, then i'd be pretty p****d. actually i’m a little surprised that a lot of these players
are going on waivers rather than being traded
for a pick or as part of a package.

maybe someone knows more about this. is it a matter that cap space has to come about before bringing on a player.
i.e. the Rangers could not pick up a player who would put us over the cap limit and then waive/trade someone. they have to make the space before picking up the player.

still, it’s an interesting change from the past
and
i wonder if it something like that will be addressed in the next CBA because if i’m a current NHL player who finally hit a good payday and then i find myself back in the minors traveling around on a bus, especially if i’m down there only because of a numbers crunch, then i’d be pretty p****d.

]]> By: Doodie Machetto http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149234 Doodie Machetto Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:56:22 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149234 "If we could have signed Avery for 1.9 million in the summer, he would have never left. So the Avery haters (i cant believe there are some) need to think of it in those terms and deal with him being back. " I would have taken him at 1.9 million in the summer before we signed Redden, Rozsival, and Voros to such ludicrous contracts. Voros has been waived, which alleviates some of the problem, but I would still much rather have the cap space (now that we are burdened with those contracts) than Avery. Speaking of Voros and Reitz, Reitz being waived is a no brainer since he has the broken foot, but Voros is surprising. And look Renney, it wasn't Petr Prucha that went away! Although, with that cap space cleared, I imagine there are definitely deals in the works, and Prucha is very likely involved in them. As for Satan, there is a 0.5% chance he clears waivers and frankly I'm shocked Shero couldn't get at least a draft pick for him. He definitely could've gotten AT THE VERY LEAST a 5th rounder for him from a team looking for some depth scoring. Bottom line, I'm shocked if he goes unclaimed. “If we could have signed Avery for 1.9 million in the summer, he would have never left. So the Avery haters (i cant believe there are some) need to think of it in those terms and deal with him being back. ”

I would have taken him at 1.9 million in the summer before we signed Redden, Rozsival, and Voros to such ludicrous contracts. Voros has been waived, which alleviates some of the problem, but I would still much rather have the cap space (now that we are burdened with those contracts) than Avery.

Speaking of Voros and Reitz, Reitz being waived is a no brainer since he has the broken foot, but Voros is surprising. And look Renney, it wasn’t Petr Prucha that went away! Although, with that cap space cleared, I imagine there are definitely deals in the works, and Prucha is very likely involved in them.

As for Satan, there is a 0.5% chance he clears waivers and frankly I’m shocked Shero couldn’t get at least a draft pick for him. He definitely could’ve gotten AT THE VERY LEAST a 5th rounder for him from a team looking for some depth scoring. Bottom line, I’m shocked if he goes unclaimed.

]]> By: jpg http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149232 jpg Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:54:13 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149232 one hopes that he realizes that this may be his last chance and i imagine that Torts would have one of his one-on-one meetings to discuss that matter with him. screw up here with antics and he finishes his career in the minors he might bug players off the ice but it's possible that he could bring something on the ice. and let's face it. if he would have taken 2 million a year he would have never left. one hopes that he
realizes that this may be his last chance
and i imagine that Torts
would have one of his
one-on-one meetings to discuss
that matter with him.

screw up here with antics
and he finishes his career in the minors

he might bug players off the ice
but it’s possible that he could bring
something on the ice.
and let’s face it. if he would have taken
2 million a year he would have never left.

]]> By: kyle http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149231 kyle Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:53:36 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149231 For the last 18 games forget about lines being numbered you need three great lines and we can have them... Naz-Gomez-Cally Prucha-Dubi-Z Avery-Drury-Svatos Korpedo-Betts-Shoe/Orr/P.A. or A.A. Redden-Rozsival Staal-Mara Bergeron-Girardi For the last 18 games forget about lines being numbered you need three great lines and we can have them…
Naz-Gomez-Cally
Prucha-Dubi-Z
Avery-Drury-Svatos
Korpedo-Betts-Shoe/Orr/P.A. or A.A.

Redden-Rozsival
Staal-Mara
Bergeron-Girardi

]]> By: Salty http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149215 Salty Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:48:24 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149215 We will see. I know the positives Avery can bring on the ice. I just would hate to see him throw a wrench into Tortorella's gears in the locker room. We will see. I know the positives Avery can bring on the ice. I just would hate to see him throw a wrench into Tortorella’s gears in the locker room.

]]> By: Rob C http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149201 Rob C Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:41:14 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149201 Salty, I agree. And I used "NEXT" because you always use it, haha. The argument is why we come to the blog, for sure. If there was none, there would be no point in sitting here, refreshing the comments and waiting to throw your 2 cents in. It sure as hell beats doing real work. In any case, we will see how this pans out in the long-term. But for right now, I think this is a good move, because he helps the team and fits right in with Tortorella's system. Salty, I agree. And I used “NEXT” because you always use it, haha. The argument is why we come to the blog, for sure. If there was none, there would be no point in sitting here, refreshing the comments and waiting to throw your 2 cents in. It sure as hell beats doing real work.

In any case, we will see how this pans out in the long-term. But for right now, I think this is a good move, because he helps the team and fits right in with Tortorella’s system.

]]> By: cwgatti http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/03/03/tortorella-on-avery-and-the-deadline/#comment-149197 cwgatti Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:38:09 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=3078#comment-149197 Avery isn't a 1st line player. But neither is CAlly. Avery-Gomez-Naslund Avery isn’t a 1st line player. But neither is CAlly.

Avery-Gomez-Naslund

]]>