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When John Tortorella got to Madison Square Garden tonight, Chris Drury was already here. The center craned his neck last night on the bench to look at his new coach as if to say, “Put me out there.”

“That’s Chris Drury,” Tortorella said. “That’s how much he cares.”

Tortorella can see how much Drury wants it, but like a lot of the other Rangers these days, that desire leads to gripping the stick too tightly and missing shots.

John Tortorella spoke before the game and had a few observations like that after watching tape of his debut against the Maple Leafs.

“I feel pretty good about the club,” Tortorella said. “Especially after watching the tape.”

He thought Wade Redden and Marc Staal were the two best defensemen out there last night.

Brandon Dubinsky, who Torts coached in the world championship, was one of his favorite offensive players out there. Henrik Lundqvist will be in net. He’s sitting Fredrik Sjostrom so that he can get a look at Aaron Voros.

Voros sat last night and said he was glad his coach talked to him before the first game to explain why he was sitting him. He didn’t like it, but appreciated the honesty.

Torts declined to specify the lines he would use tonight, so props to whoever posts them first.

Lastly, he said four or five guys were in bad shape, but declined to call them out by name. So props to whoever names those first, too!

More later.

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  1. Eklund says to stay on alert for Gomez trade – not that I ever believe Eklund. My question is: who would want Gomez?

  2. I think Gomez, as a 2nd line center, would generate a lot of interest in an uptempo offense. Front loaded contract helps, and he has had success in that role before.

  3. I’m looking forward to his game. Hopefully the system clicks a little bit better.

    Look for those getting the least icetime in the 3rd, might be able to tell who he believes isnt in shape.

  4. nasty 1, Eklund is reporting that teams are interesting in Gomer, but then again that’s Eklund so that means it prolly won’t happen, but yeah if we could dump his salary that would be great…

  5. Jeez Carp,

    With Doc Brown today, and Heady Lamarr yesterday, your blog is turning into a rest-home for old movie lines.

    All I have to say is Romanii Eunt Domum…!

  6. real insiders like McKenzie and others have also said that there are some teams interested in Gomez. so I would not be surprised by a trade of him

  7. well we’ve worn down as the season has gone along, and we wear out in games as they go along, so i don’t know where this stuff about conditioning is coming from?

    Torts may not be able to fix this season, but i think he will whip us into shape…eventually.

    My guess on who the less than optimal conditioned Rangers are:
    Zherdev
    Dawes
    Voros
    Roszival
    Girardi

    As far as best conditioned…Staal on cardio and Korpikoski on strength. I don’t think Korpi realizes yet that he could be a power forward, he thinks he’s a checker.

  8. Drury is more versatile. can be used at wing, can kill penalties, can play on lower lines

    Gomez can do none of that.

    Gomez is a much better skater and puckhandler, but his poor shooting and forced passes are a problem

    I could do without both at their prices, but Gomez seems to be the only one with a current trade market

  9. whats even more interesting is that Torts didnt scratch Prucha to play Voros.. that shows that Pruchas presence is valuable to the team! Thank u Torts!

  10. REPOST from other thread

    Prucha25 February 26th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Alex B @ 5:29 pm

    Good post. It was sickening last night hearing Pierre Maguire saying how it was so unfair to Renney to be fired. “A good coach had to be let go because of the mistakes made by his GM.” I want to ask him how many Ranger games he actually watched. He wouldn’t be yapping those words if he was aware of the damage Renney did to a lot of guys on this team.

  11. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    Lines:
    Prucha – Gomez – Zherdev/Naslund
    Prucha – Drury – Callahan/Dubinsky
    Prucha – Korpikoski – Dawes
    Prucha – Betts – Orr

    Prucha’s the new Bugs Bunny

    Out of Shape:
    Voros
    Reitz
    Dawes
    Zherdev
    Voros

  12. Also, Colton Orr is a moose on skates! (not Messier type moose, but moose type moose!) He’s gonna get my Steven McDonald vote for sure!

  13. Rozsival had to be one of those guys out of shape. He looked bad out there after the first.
    Wait until he gets a look at Voros. He could barely make it to the bench after a shift.

  14. I would be in favor of a Gomez trade, but it better be to the Western Conference, because you know it’s going to come back to bite us.

  15. I love Torts’ style. By saying that he thought Redden and Staal were the two best D-men last night, he put subtle pressure on the other guys to step it up without calling them out explictly. That’s motivating but not insulting, and will also motivate Redden and Staal to keep it up.

  16. Possible outta shape players:

    Aaron “dunking donuts” Voros

    Scotty “soon to be gone” Gnom-ez

    Lauri “over hyped” Korpikoski

    Nigel “I wish I was taller” Dawes

    Michal “I want my number back” Rozsival

  17. Drury has a no trade clause, so I doubt he’s going anywhere.

    Gomez’s contract is front loaded, but there is still 5yr/33.5M left on the contract. So, depending on how the cap-hit works it’s either: ~4.8M/yr (if 33.5/7yrs) or 6.7M (if 33.5/5 yrs). I would hope it’s the former b/c I don’t see many teams calling at the latter price tag.

  18. Without Gomez, who is going to setup the powerplay? Nobody on the team has the same skills as Gomez when it comes to transporting the tempo at high speed.

    Id really like a line with Gomez – Zherdev – Dubinsky

  19. I’d like to see Gomez play for a while in an actual attacking style game before voting him off the island. I think its tough to judge any of these guys harshly just yet since they were all victims of Renney’s system. Well, except Redden, that is. He just sucks.

  20. i really like Gomez, but he does have trade value as a playmaking Center.

    The best fit for him would be Columbus… they are openly looking for a center to play with Nash and they have plenty of cap space to take on his contract plus, they are under huge scrutiny to make the playoffs (for the 1st time) this year.

    I’d trade Gomez for Chimera and a pick, but only if we had a separate deal with another team to bring in a decent Center (Vinny) to finish out this year for us. I dont think calling up AA for the playoff run is the way to go

  21. Survey:

    Who is the one player you would like to trade the most?

    Mine is Dredden. Oh my god, that would be so sweet.

  22. Mark (the orginal) on

    Wow love that Mara is back in there tonight, wasn’t expecting that, hope he isn’t pushing it.

  23. Here are your out-of-shapers

    Naslund… behind EVERY play I saw last night
    Dawes… didn’t even realize that he was playing
    Reitz… reaches too much
    Zherdev… the one i’m most unsure of

  24. It’s funny everyone here is saying Voros is out of shape (and I was going to make that joke), EXCEPT Torts was talking about guys who played last night.

    My guesses are Rozsival, just looked sluggish most/all of the game, Dawes, Naslund, Reitz… and maybe Gomez?

    Did Dawes play OT? I don’t think so. I don’t remember Prucha either though.

  25. Mark (the orginal)
    February 26th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    Wow love that Mara is back in there tonight, wasn’t expecting that, hope he isn’t pushing it.
    …………..

    Where did you see that?

  26. I’m winded from writing so many anti-Renney posts in one week

    forecheck, backcheck, paycheck, spell check

  27. Mark (the orginal) on

    True- Right up at 6:30 they showed him on the pregame, and when Gianone interviewed Torts they talked about Paul going back in, and back in Tampa how Torts thought he was a soft player, but admires how well he has changed his game.

  28. sam (not the great weinman) on

    Guys, I have a question,

    If you have a guy like Mark Bell in the minors, or you put down Wade Redden, their contracts still count against the cap, right?

  29. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I hope after the first period Torts gives voros money for a cab and tells him to get the hell away from the team.

  30. SAM —

    as I understand it, a player in the minors doesn’t count against the cap. But you can’t be sent down after you’ve played a certain # of games, or for other reasons, redden can’t go down.

    If I am wrong someone will surely correct me….

  31. stuart – Kalinin (or Reitz) would be affected by Vaananen because:
    1. Why would we want to carry eight defensemen?
    2. Cap space
    3. Roster space, since we are at 23 right now

  32. korpedo didnt play most of the 3rd so he’s one of them. and gomez contract is 6+ a year in terms of cap, under the cba every year is the same regardless of how much they actually get paid that year, like redden for instance is getting $8M this year i think but his cap hit is 6.5 or so

    saw the lines on gross’ blog i dont like cally on the 1st line prucha should be there over him and espec b/c korp and dawes arent the best set up guys and prucha is prob in the best shape on the team

  33. lmao did anyone hear joe start singing happy birthday and then abruptly stop when sam stopped singing?

  34. Mark (the orginal) on

    Tortorella added it was just four or five players, then snapped at the Post’s Larry Brooks when Larry asked for the names. “None of your business,” Tortorella said sharply, before realizing where he was and relaxing, saying he wasn’t trying to act “smart.” “That’s between me and the players as we go in the locker room. I don’t think that needs to be broadcast.”

    http://njmg.typepad.com/rangersblog/

    Larry should of asked him why is wasting our time again, haha I can’t get enough of that Torts Larry video next question.

  35. u can be sent down unless you have a no movement clause. only drury has that. the issue is that once u play a certain number of games in the league you are subject to re-entry waivers to be recalled…so redden could go down tnte and id recall him and hope someone would take him

  36. does anyone know if I can find this game on the internet? I found nothing on ATDHE.NET, Justin.TV or channelsurfing.net

  37. Dubinsky – Drury – Zherdev
    Naslund-Gomez-Callahan
    Mara – Kalinin
    Redden-Rozsival

    Wow, shocked that Mara is back in there. Sounds like some kind of voodoo treatment.

    I can’t believe that goal wasn’t even reviewed, just waved off.

  38. I don’t know if bad shape means injured or out of shape or possibly both, but I’m going to guess Sjostrom, Mara, Reitz, Gomez, and Naslund. Not going to say Voros because he didn’t play last night.

  39. Spiderpig
    February 26th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    I don’t know if bad shape means injured or out of shape or possibly both, but I’m going to guess Sjostrom, Mara,
    ………….

    Spider, Mara didn’t play last night either.

  40. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    argh, damn count bettman shutting down the other streaming sites. Maybe if the NHL’s gamecenter live online didnt suck so much it wouldnt matter.

  41. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    mako, what kind of reception did Torts get from the crowd? I have a one minute delay between the audio and video..its annoying but that’s cuz this computer is ancient. Still waitin for Uncle obama to send me my check!! GRRRR

  42. he wants to see Voros…but only a little, as in 4th line minutes so he sat the 4th line left wing, makes sense

  43. You get the feelin that Hank was the happiest for the coaching change (Prucha too). He says it but doesn’t say it and has looked great in both games. Par for his course I suppose

  44. True Fans – I say Mara because he may be talking about injured players, as well. For the Chuck Norris/Torts joke: Torts gave Mara his spare shoulder. Hey, that’s the best I could come up with.

    The game is on selfcast.com, R2R channel.

  45. HockeymanRangers on

    That is a good goal, and not so sure the first one wasn’t either. I hope they show the first one again at some point

  46. Best goal of the year! Think im joking? Thts how real goals should be scored .. And it shouldn’t even be reviewed. Great job taking the body by cally, great pass by kalinin, great rush by gomer and great job by naslund crashing the net. Lets keep going boys!

  47. MAKO – Your bet looks so much better with Anderson in goal on short notice again. See what happened Tuesday against the Bruins, who are of course a much better offensive team, however.

  48. HockeymanRangers on

    Where is rick tonight, is he at the game tonight???

    Just saw Sather and he is full of crap, why the heck did it take you 3 years to get rid of Renney then b/c he never coached like that ever.

  49. Last time Anderson shut us out at MSG 4 – 0

    Whatta depressing game, I think the Giants lost that day too

  50. Spider

    I had a full roster in fantasy so I benched Nazzy – thinking he wasnt going to do much tonight.

  51. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    damn that was 8 minutes in hell! missed the goal and am STILL about 2 minutes lag between audio and video… what crap!

    I see some complaining about the refs…lol hockey is back ;-)

  52. All sites are suspiciously silent. It’s a conspiracy.

    Well at least you can get radio on rangers.nhl.com

  53. Does anyone know where on the internet I can see the game? Its almost 2am where I am and cant sleep…want to see the ‘new’ Rangers

  54. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    wade redden? are they actually saying he wanted to blast the shot through the goalie? is this the same skeletal calamity we’ve been watchin all season???

  55. HockeymanRangers on

    Wow I can’t believe Redden, did Renney tell him not to shoot the puck. I can’t ever remember him shooting the puck like that.

  56. ARE WE EVER GONNA GET A TWO GOAL LEAD FOR GOD’S SAKE..

    “Who’s leg do you have to hump around here…”

  57. Sally,

    you have a point. You never have a bad camera angle on the radio.

    The only bad thing,is when I listen on the radio, they never change ends.

  58. sam (not the great weinman) on

    Bill McQueery has a mission tonight like he does against us all the time. He didnt bother to wait for a review of the 1st goal, and then waits an hour for a review of the 2nd.

    in regards to earlier, i see that the flyers had to clear cap space to get back briere, which means briere was not on the cap. Why dont the rangers have Redden and Roszival and Drury and Gomez Tonya Hardinged and then we can get them off our cap. Who cares if we pay the 25 mil a year if they’re not on our cap. Let’s hope one of them gets injured for the season in the next 3 days to get them off our cap.

  59. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    cccp stop teasing! that would be like Christmas, Thanksgiving, my birthday, and Halloween rolled into one.

  60. sam (not the great weinman) on

    did you hear, the refereeing crew made a mistake by dropping the puck so quickly. mistake!!! yea, right. mcqueery knew what he was doing.

  61. Dave’s talking to Al and said that the refs f’ed up the first goal they disallowed. Typical

  62. Haha CCCP, first I read that like Sam was retiring and I got sad. Then I realized you meant Sather and that you are a very cruel person.

  63. Rangers are looking great. Real QUALITY scoring chances instead of BS sharp angle nonsense to pad the SOG stat.

    Begin looks like one of the murderer/rapists from Death Wish 2. I’m dead serious

  64. sam (not the great weinman) on

    ctrain016,

    they didn’t screw it up. they did it purposely. they certainly waited long enough to get the Nazzy goal reviewed.

  65. I am dissapointed that schoenfield didn’t start screaming to the ref, “Yeah, you are too fat and lazy to review that first goal. Go eat another doughnut!”

  66. sam (not the great weinman) on

    they are not too lazy joeybriggs, they are purposefully out to screw us. they cant possibly let us in the p/o as an 8 seed and potentially beat the Broooons.

  67. Well Linda

    If Sather would suddenly retire right now…for me that would be like Chanukah, Passover and maybe 4th of July all in one! :P

  68. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    sam, can i toss COUNT bettman out too??

    Hey Ramsays kid has a better shot than Staal ;-)

  69. Onecup

    How many “pretty goals” did Adam Graves get? As long as it goes in the net – Im happy :)

  70. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    Torts looks like he’s waiting for people to walk up to him and kiss his ring…Voros is now Fredo!

  71. Also, that’s huge that Mara is back,especially after the injury that he suffered. Speaking of injuries, it’ll be interesting to see if our injuries go up this year and next year. Teams that play a more physical, up-tempo style tend to get more injured (Players exerting themselves when tired leads to pulled muscles).

  72. Linda says damn NHL.com on

    lol CCCP i forgot July 4th!

    Florida wants a penalty on the play…i’m sure they’ll get a make up call. Damn I dislike this officiating crew!

  73. you would think they would have started the period clock and Rozsival’s penalty clock at the same time… Rozsi’s penalty expired at 2:01

  74. anyone else thoroughly enjoying the hockey they are watching?

    team needs to finish better but they are playing well

  75. CCCP – “so, does anyone see anything special about JayBo? i dont… :)”

    I don’t either but maybe he’ll fight voros :)

  76. CCCP, he just got torched by Zherdev, in typical Zherdev fashion he skated himself into the corner though.

  77. So glad to be home tonight to watch the game! Halfway through the third and just starting the PP. Loving seeing the Dmen pinching more and joining the rush.

  78. Spiderpig February 26th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Who the F is J-F Labbe? He looks like the answer to the question because LaBarbera did not play with the Rangers that season and Labbe played one game in which he allowed three goals, which the Rangers did on April 5, 2000. http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/NYR/2000_games.html

    I was at the game, it was against Montreal, and yes it was J.F. Labbe.

  79. My last comments about cialis and l-u-b-e got censored! There is nothing like the feeling of being watched… :) the cold war continues!

  80. all Ranger goals are pretty goals. it’s in the eye of the beholder.

    tonight’s refs will give me 2 minutes for be-holding

  81. Who is gonna take Gomez and his massive contract?? I think Gomez trade talk is all hear say. Nobody’s gonna take him. This is just pre deadline babble or wishful thinking.

    Out of shape players:

    Rozival
    Korpedo
    Redden
    Sjostrom (thats why he’s scratched)
    Reisz sp?

    Naslund has never been quick top end and he has lost a step but i don’t think being out of game shape has anything to do with it. Let’s see what Tort’s thinks about the twinkie king of NYC Voros!!! Get that barrel ass on the treadmill pronto!

    They are playing better than last night you can see a fire has been lit lets hope it rages into an inferno.

  82. Jagr’s Father February 26th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Who is gonna take Gomez and his massive contract?? I think Gomez trade talk is all hear say. Nobody’s gonna take him. This is just pre deadline babble or wishful thinking.

    Out of shape players:

    Rozival
    Korpedo
    Redden
    Sjostrom (thats why he’s scratched)
    Reisz sp?

    Naslund has never been quick top end and he has lost a step but i don’t think being out of game shape has anything to do with it. Let’s see what Tort’s thinks about the twinkie king of NYC Voros!!! Get that barrel ass on the treadmill pronto!

    They are playing better than last night you can see a fire has been lit lets hope it rages into an inferno.

    Lets hope they play with the burning intensity of 1,000 Suns.

  83. Wow, I don’t know what I was thinking because Naslund was on the PP last night, too. But Girardi is off in favor of Kalinin under the new regime.

  84. Jagr’s Pappa

    Are you nuts? Sjostrom isnt out of shape. They said before the game Torts took him out because he wanted to give Voros a look and Sjo was pretty banged up last night.

  85. Ref: Hey
    Ramsey: Hey, what do ya want?
    Ref: You have any hand sanitizer?
    Ramsey: Would you like precious peach, or amazing apple?
    Ref: Peach is good
    Ramsey: Good choice
    *Ref smells hands*
    Ref: yummmmmm, peachy

  86. another bad call by the officials on that offsides.
    Sam I thnk your conspiracy theory may be right

  87. I can’t believe how much different Kalinen and Redden look in this system!! Wow. Dubi looks better too. Staal looks like a monster out there.

    Renney was holding all these guys back.

  88. Rozsival almost had a Leech like goal. OMG, I used Rozsival and Leech in the same sentence without saying

    Leech was amazing and Rozsival completely sucks.

  89. This game should be 4-0.

    True Fans
    You’re right, they really do look like different players out there. Its great to see!!!

  90. UESBlueshirt February 26th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    It’s all about the faux hawk.

    It all about the hair. It always was. Ask the 73′ A’s about the facial hair. IT WAS THE REAL DEAL!

  91. joe
    February 26th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
    Rangers have problems getting it up.
    they’re not shooting high enough, either

    ******************************************

    Um you know something we dont joe?

  92. actually think it was the florida d-man’s stick that tripped the goalie. Cally went through the crease and caused the player’s stick to be there… look at the replay closely… that was cally’s arguement

  93. Rozi playing with a little grit. Whats going on here?? Also i am yet to see somebody step around Redden like he wasn’t even there. Maybe i should take the nuse down in my garage there is hope here thank sweet moses!!!

  94. haha pulled hank with 4 seconds left. Did torts not see the first period of the Soviet game in ’80????

  95. I know I will regret this but Redden is playing a lot better.

    Callahan has to lift that puck, he has to score on that play.

    Dubinsky needs to learn to shoot the damn puck no thinking allowed…

    there were 2 second or less not 4….

    rangers are outplaying the panthers but they are stone hands,

    LIFT THE DAMN PUCK…

  96. J.F. Labbe? WTF? I must be hallucinating again. I need my meds ASAP. Please score another goal guys PLEASE!! I don’t want to see overtime or even worse a shootout.

  97. you know it’s rock bottom for the rangers when brodeur comes back from surgery and is running a shutout.

  98. Maybe but he still needs to put some weight on he looks like a scarecrow or a stick figure. Think he really has a drug problem?? He sure doesn’t seem like the type.

  99. Linda ia technologically frustrated! on

    if this was not the only working computer in the house it’d be in a million pieces! on the other hand, my snapple cap says you burn 20 calories per hour chewing gum. HOLY CRAP what’s going on with this video!??

  100. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    This team is dominating tonight! They just can’t buy a goal.It’s just amazing the amount of high quality scoring chances that they are generating,but can’t finnish.

    Rozy is playing like shit today.Once again his indecisivness is just mind boggling.I am sure that this team will start scoring more,they are just due.You can’t get these types of chances and not score.Torts is the man!!!

  101. Linda ia technologically frustrated! on

    lol@ entire overrated bruins team.

    holy cow, the video of ron duguay and lil debbie is just coming through now! Duguays face with dave maloneys voice! YIKES and there’s FATSO! good point ctrain

  102. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    It’s amazing how much less work The King is getting without Renney’s defense first crap!

  103. 5 on 3…still can’t score. I don’t think the Rangers get rotate. They move in the same spot…YOU NEED TO MOVE TO A NEW SPOT!!

  104. Well I think Redden’s goal last night proves that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  105. doesn’t the NHL have you know..Back-up refs in case one you know..gets hurt. Guess Bettman isn’t that smart. It also creates Jobs..get Obama.

  106. ctrain016 February 26th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    that guy wearing #6 is Doug Lidster

    That or he’s frickin Ace Bailey.

  107. WOW! Hockey 101 “the toe drag” work on it. and Gomez….good lord this guy can’t score in a whore house with a fist full of 50.00’s!!!!!!

  108. Dubiiiii February 26th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    is this a rerun?

    Yeah, but for some reason Tom Renney dyed his hair, grew a mustache and looks Italian.

  109. Matt K.
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    Dubiiiii February 26th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    is this a rerun?

    Yeah, but for some reason Tom Renney dyed his hair, grew a mustache and looks Italian.
    ……….

    And somehow Prucha snuck onto the bench.

  110. Linda is technologically frustrated! on

    sunuvabitch!

    rangers unable to finish….damn i hate that phrase! Someone put the damned puck in the net already!!

    Maybe Gomez should sit saturday?

  111. Matt K.
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
    Dubiiiii February 26th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
    is this a rerun?
    Yeah, but for some reason Tom Renney dyed his hair, grew a mustache and looks Italian.
    ……….
    And somehow Prucha snuck onto the bench.

    And Voros isn’t clogging up the PP

  112. Linda is technologically frustrated! on

    can someone tell me what drury has done with his 18 minutes of ice time tonight?

  113. # True Fans Bleed RW&B February 26th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    And somehow Prucha snuck onto the bench.

    …….
    And somehow Prucha snuck onto the ice

  114. We can’t fully crash the net. I say have two forwards fully crush the net, and then one play mid slot looking for rebounds to sweep up the trash. Right now we’re playing, “Kill the goalie”.

  115. HockeymanRangers on

    OK LETS ALL PITCH IN AND BUY THIS FREAKING TEAM A GOAL OMG I AM IN FOR 50 BUCKS, WHO’S IN

  116. Linda is technologically frustrated!
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
    can someone tell me what drury has done with his 18 minutes of ice time tonight?
    ……….

    Can someone tell me what Drury’s done since the game against Chicago on January 16th?!

  117. Torts: Scotty come in my office
    Scott: Hey coach whats up
    Torts: Your benched for the rest of the season
    Gomez: WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?!
    Torts: You suck, get over it

  118. Of curse Booth who hasn’t scored a goal forever is on my fantasy hockey bench, so he scores. By this theory, Korpikoski should score tonight

  119. Spiderpig
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
    Of curse Booth who hasn’t scored a goal forever is on my fantasy hockey bench, so he scores. By this theory, Korpikoski should score tonight
    …………….

    Korpi! Korpi! Korpi!

    Nothing against you Spider :)

  120. Un freakin believable!!!! Actually believable. OK Lets play for the shootout. Son Of A Biooooooootch! My blood pressure is thru the roof!!!!

  121. Linda is technologically frustrated! on

    true, drury DID sprawl on the ice last night!!! it was a good sprawl, i gave it a 9.5

    Did Torts pop an artery yet????? We better get someone who can put a puck in the net!! YETI better be workin that phone!

  122. Zhervalev February 26th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    We’re losing to an ice hockey team… from Florida… ugh

    You wanna know why we were 10-2 and whatever to start the season? Look who we played. Tampa Bay and the fricken Is-landers…and to think we were talking about a parade in June.

  123. im sick of hearing about how these players are nervous, grow some fucking balls and get on the ice and play the game. omg im scared to score a goal omg im scared to put it high when i have 50 chances down low.

    sorry, this team sucks.

  124. Yeah scott

    the second goal is completely LQ’s fault when the guy is all alone in the slot.

    You’re the douchebag if you believe that.

  125. Scott Kay
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
    This isnt worth watching anymore. These goals have to be lundqvist’s fault.
    …………

    Did you see the guy get the one-timer in the slot and shelf-it uncovered? Do you play hockey? Have you ever seen hockey?

    I’m guessing that was three “NO’s,” …thank you very much!

  126. Lundqvist has been very ordinary since about December. He’s had a lot of work, but this is by far his worst season of his career.

  127. yup here come all the lundqvist haters

    I forgot that in order to be good enough for the nhl you cant give up any goals

  128. oooo some guy with a bold title just got me good.

    do you have fun trying to argue with people in the comments section of rangers report you nutless faggot?

  129. All will be well in time! And I don’t mean a long time.

    I am more hopeful about this team’s future now than I have been in years.

  130. First goal was soft, second there was nothing LQ could do. But hell, LQ is playing great, and should expect the team in front of him to score a goal every once in a while. Allowing the team right behind you in the playoff race to gain two points is inexcusable. No heart on this team at all.

    The “Fire Sather” chant is ringing through The Garden. And my living room.

  131. Scott Kay
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
    oooo some guy with a bold title just got me good.

    do you have fun trying to argue with people in the comments section of rangers report you nutless faggot?
    …………

    Ask your mom, she knows your last post is inaccurate.

  132. Torts post game comments: “You know what?..a new coach takes some time. These things take some time. You wanna know what else is gonna take some time? The 10,000 Herbies they have to do tomorrow.”

  133. Sather is not going anywhere…the guy didn’t get canned during the futile non-playoff years, he’s not getting fired now. Dolan is a joke.

  134. WTF!!!

    They should give the goalies the day off tomorrow so they can practice with an empty net!

  135. How do you idiots who kept blaming Renney feel now? Like I and many others have been saying – it ain’t the coaching, its the players! This team lacks any firepower. I have never seen a team with nobody who can finish the way this team has.

    I think I have the solution for Drury: QUIT! Captain Clutch is neither captain nor clutch.

    How the F did we let this guy score on us with 7.7 seconds left on Jagr’s team? Are you kidding me? I am realy pissed with this team

  136. Scott Kay
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
    oooo some guy with a bold title just got me good.
    do you have fun trying to argue with people in the comments section of rangers report you nutless faggot?

    ******************************************

    No jerk off just morons who dont know hockey

  137. # True Fans Bleed RW&B February 26th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Scott Kay
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
    oooo some guy with a bold title just got me good.

    do you have fun trying to argue with people in the comments section of rangers report you nutless faggot?
    …………

    Ask your mom, she knows your last post is inaccurate.

    Wow..fighting over the internet?

  138. yeah and you all know hockey sitting around reading Rick Carpinello discuss how great rangers hockey is. im sure the accepted people on this comment column have fun blowing eachother telling eachother how good their comments are.

    omg you dont know hockey i do omg im better.

    have fun being an elitist on this, im sure you come on here with a sense of pride. hahaha.

  139. Gotta trade Gomez.
    He has nothing to offer this team.
    The interview before game was DISGUSTING.
    I now hate him!

  140. Lobster February 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    How do you idiots who kept blaming Renney feel now? Like I and many others have been saying – it ain’t the coaching, its the players! This team lacks any firepower. I have never seen a team with nobody who can finish the way this team has.

    I think I have the solution for Drury: QUIT! Captain Clutch is neither captain nor clutch.

    How the F did we let this guy score on us with 7.7 seconds left on Jagr’s team? Are you kidding me? I am realy pissed with this team

    Simple. Look who Drury played with. Breire and fricken Vanek. I would score 40 goals to if i had two guys create empty nets for me.

  141. I’m sick, sick, sick watching this. Sick. Gomez/Drury are such good players, and have done nothing in NY. Are they system guys, who need real offensive powers skating next to them to shine? This play out of guys eating a huge portion of our salary cap is inexcusable.

  142. Friends of Dr. D on

    We have the worst fans in the NHL. Drunk, loud, obnoxious, self-important a-holes. Some days I root for this team to lose just so you overly-excitable types will get so frustrated you all go away.

  143. I was neither a Renney hater, not a Renney fan. However, if I am going to have to watch the Rangers lose, I would rather they lose like this than watching them decompose before my eyes. Yes, they lack finishers. That is all on Sather. At least they compete with Torts. WIth Renney, it was playing not to lose. At least the losses are entertaining now. If you’re gonna die, die with your boots on.

  144. Scott Kay
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
    yeah and you all know hockey sitting around reading Rick Carpinello discuss how great rangers hockey is. im sure the accepted people on this comment column have fun blowing eachother telling eachother how good their comments are.
    omg you dont know hockey i do omg im better.
    have fun being an elitist on this, im sure you come on here with a sense of pride. hahaha.

    ***********************************************************

    Why so hateful? Mommy didnt hug you enough? Daddy diddle with baby sitter? Or did Father Michael touch you on your no no hole?

  145. The stickboy is messing with their sticks has to be. String up The Stickboy!!!!!!! Disgusted. I need heavy drugs to calm myself now. Make a trade please!!! i’ll take anyone available at this point….

  146. Drury’s not a captain. If he is a captian, he’s captain crap. After seeing a leader like Jagr last season to be replaced by this lackluster team with a heartless captain? No shocker there.

  147. Drury: DUHHHH HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!
    Breire: Listen Chris, stand over there and when you get the puck, put it in the net
    Vanek: Look Danny, im gonna fake shoot, deke a little and try to go top corner, you get the rebound and pass to Chris
    *play goes on*
    Drury: YAY I GOT THE PUCK
    Breire: SHOOOOT!!!
    Vanek: SHOOOOOOTTT!!!!
    *Drury Shoots*
    Drury: YAY!!! PUCK GOES IN NET!
    *Drury falls over in stupidity*

  148. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    haha- wow those rangers are finally released from their offensive prison!!!! keep scorin those goals boys!!! u rock!!

  149. “YAY I CAN FIGHT OVER THE INTERNET IM SO TOUGH, LOOK AT ME”
    Seriously, stop the b*tching here and grow a pair..both of you.

  150. I have to imagine the players honeymoon with Torts is over. What’s going to be funny is that he doesn’t know half their names so he’ll probably berate them with the wrong names.

  151. I have never seen a team get more chances and fail to put them in. It’s amazing. At least they’re getting chances now. They are playing a lot better. It doesn’t feel good to lose but they have improved in a big way. The goals will come if they keep up playing like this. When they get more practices with Torts they’ll be more used to the new way of playing. Relax, guys.

  152. Shoryuken on Wade Redden on

    Gomez is killing us, that last goal was the worst defensive positioning I have ever seen.

  153. Matt K.
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
    Drury: DUHHHH HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!
    Breire: Listen Chris, stand over there and when you get the puck, put it in the net
    Vanek: Look Danny, im gonna fake shoot, deke a little and try to go top corner, you get the rebound and pass to Chris
    play goes on
    Drury: YAY I GOT THE PUCK
    Breire: SHOOOOT!!!
    Vanek: SHOOOOOOTTT!!!!
    Drury Shoots
    Drury: YAY!!! PUCK GOES IN NET!
    Drury falls over in stupidity

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    Yep and this deserves a Pulitzer

  154. UESBlueshirt February 26th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    I have to imagine the players honeymoon with Torts is over. What’s going to be funny is that he doesn’t know half their names so he’ll probably berate them with the wrong names.

    Little Example

    Torts: STAAL YOU WERE PLAYING F*CKIN RETARDED
    Drury: Im Drury, coach
    Torts: Oh..well you still play like Larry Brooks

  155. onecupin69years on

    I thought for sure they would win, but no.
    they’re running out of excuses, flew in late, tired, yada …
    this is an Ugly team,
    playing ugly hockey
    they score ugly
    lose ugly
    Jt is probably starting to regret taking the job
    start trading, I don’t care who for what

  156. MAKO February 26th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Matt K.
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
    Drury: DUHHHH HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!
    Breire: Listen Chris, stand over there and when you get the puck, put it in the net
    Vanek: Look Danny, im gonna fake shoot, deke a little and try to go top corner, you get the rebound and pass to Chris
    play goes on
    Drury: YAY I GOT THE PUCK
    Breire: SHOOOOT!!!
    Vanek: SHOOOOOOTTT!!!!
    Drury Shoots
    Drury: YAY!!! PUCK GOES IN NET!
    Drury falls over in stupidity

    ************************************************************

    Yep and this deserves a Pulitzer

    Wow..guess no one here has a sense of humor.

  157. yeah torts is probably going to tell them to stop being a bunch of sulking pussies and put the goddamn puck in the net like men

    i’m not angry, i swear

    trade gomez

    redden is playing better since the tortorella regime started yesterday

    i like kalinin’s play, even though he didn’t get much time

    girardi is slower than molasses

    take the c from drury

    give the c to dubinsky (he’s the only one that is noticable out there for the most part right now)

  158. dominated the game and still lost..

    cally did not lift the puck, weak 1st goal by henrik, no slot support on the Horton goal, dubi does everything right but cannot score, is he a MORON…

    tough tough loss outplayed the team and lost…

  159. Lobster
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    You two guys are something – “I just had a fight with some guy in cyberspace”

    ****************************************************************

    Just correcting someone who blamed the 2nd goal on LQ and called a regular here a nutless fagg*t

    Its called loyalty & having someone back where I come from…

  160. I was one of the so called “Renney haters” and I will defend my stance. I don’t think the players are great and that’s why I didn’t like renney. He kept playing the same players with no accountability. Especially on the power play. “You make a lot of money so I have to play you.” I also despised the way he treated Prucha.

    Just my .02
    I still can’t stand Gomez, he has been horrific!

  161. The idiots who can watch a game like that and not see a HUGE difference in the attitude and energy of a team are blind.

    Renny sucked all the confidence from these guys — they will bottom out soon. His residue can’t be washed away in a day or a week. Maybe not for a few games. But if they keep skating and attacking the goals will come and they will have an identity.

    My work is done here. Renney is gone, a coach who is not afraid to skate and charge is in, so life is good.

  162. Torts is a better coach… we saw the scoring chances on a back-to-back game.. but the team SUCKS!

    As far as I’m concerned, dump everyone but Hank, Dubi, Staal, Cally, Mara and our PKers.

  163. MAKO February 26th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Lobster
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    You two guys are something – “I just had a fight with some guy in cyberspace”

    ****************************************************************

    Just correcting someone who blamed the 2nd goal on LQ and called a regular here a nutless fagg*t

    Its called loyalty & having someone back where I come from…

    You have somebody’s back in a bar fight. You have somebody’s back in the parking lot. You can’t really have someone’s back over the internet. Get what i’m saying?

  164. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    Matt K.
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
    Torts a week ago: “Im happy for coach the Rangers”
    Torts right now: “F*CK MY LIFE!”

    lmao!!!! good stuff. anyway, u gotta laugh. u cant get mad. seasons over. it has been 2 months ago. serious changes need to be had next season. i mean get half the pack in here and dump gomer, dru, nas, doobs, zherdev, redden, kalinin, rozy, reitz, voros, dawes, prucha,. keep cally, korpi, betts, staal, mara, hank and vally. lol if only it was possible

  165. I mean 1 cup in 69 years why the hell do you post. you hate everyhting about this team and just whine.. why don’t you just leave and give up on the rangers for life.

    you are the type that dislikes everything..

  166. wd40 February 26th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    The idiots who can watch a game like that and not see a HUGE difference in the attitude and energy of a team are blind.

    Renny sucked all the confidence from these guys—- they will bottom out soon. His residue can’t be washed away in a day or a week. Maybe not for a few games. But if they keep skating and attacking the goals will come and they will have an identity.

    My work is done here. Renney is gone, a coach who is not afraid to skate and charge is in, so life is good.

    my sentiments exactly

  167. I feel so glad that I have photographic evidence of that game against Washington, the last time they scored more than 3 in regulation.

  168. Yay, we have effort — we’re the best! And we make backup goalies look awesome! Again, why were Drury and Gomez so important? Remember what cycling used to look like? And passing? Darius Kasparaitis had more chances to score than this defense. Didn’t Girardi used to score?
    But at least Sather came out of his cave to tell us he has always liked up-tempo offense — that must be why he refused to re-sign all his scorers. Gee thanks, Glen. Keep up the good work. Go away.

  169. Carp,

    Any chance you can suggest a drill for the next Rangers practice? Tell Torts to put cardboard on the net except the top two inches of the net. Teach these clowns that this isn’t 1950 anymore and goalies wear masks. Shoot high! Also, suggest that when players shoot at a wide open net, tell them to shoot 7 feet in the opposite direction of the post. With their poor shooting accuracy, that should cover their crappy shots and make the puck go in!

    Thanks! See ya’ll Saturday for another night of heart problems!

  170. Haha, thanks mako.

    I think Scott Kay = Beer Me!

    wd40, I feel exactly the same way. There are alot of positives. Hank let a bad one five-hole and the team got tired in the third, but they got so many chances. They will start scoring soon. They won’t be the Red Wings, but they will be a team that is fun to watch and doesn’t give up on their coach. That’s two things which weren’t there last week.

  171. You guys are getting mad at Gomez and Drury for no good reason. They have never been the #1 offense options on any team they have played for. Then Sather gives them a truck full of money to be something they aren’t. Now, they are killing what little game they had trying to live up to something they can’t be. Everybody needs to take a deep breath and chill. Your expectations are along the lines of giving the backup running back, who is a solid and productive player, a super stars contract, and then expecting him to rush for 2000 yards when he barely averages 800. The team is not built properly. End of story. Gomez and Drury will NEVER have Jagr numbers. If they are putting up 60-70 points, they are where they should be. Sather should never have hired two number 2 centers with franchise player contracts.

  172. Anyone notice how slow Rozsival looks lately? I mean the guy was never fast, but he moves like a statue now

  173. Mark (the orginal) on

    Carolina beats Buffalo in the SO. Man those 3 point games are awful. Also 4 goals for the Islanders vs Vesa Toskala ugh.

  174. # True Fans Bleed RW&B February 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Matt K.

    You sound like you’re about to start a fight over why internet fighting is dumb.

    Im trying not to start anything. Just trying stop the fighting because it’s pointless.

  175. Drury and Gomez said they were happy and excited to be in charge of this team. Too bad they have lousy leadership and are at best mediocre players. That is definitely Sather’s fault, but they went along with it. Marion Hossa at least knew he needed a good team around him — he didn’t try to carry it himself, and he’s a lot better than those two. Sundin knew this wasn’t for him either. It’s not a good team. Sather doesn’t understand how to build a team. He is incompetent.

  176. Not for nothing but we scored in the first 17 sec. of the game and the a-hole ref didn’t even want to review it. But then they review the other goal the Rangers got by Nasland which was a waste of time reviewing.

  177. Dubi had 2 shots on goal tonite and 15 shots on the backboards. Give him the “C”????? Maybe he sould learn to shoot first before we make him our leader. Give Calli the C. Comes to work every game, makes his presence felt..kinda reminds me of a young Adam Graves when he was on “the kid line” in edmonton. He is still very raw and needs polishing but i think he has the tools just needs to perfect them and under the right mentor he can be a 40 goal man. Maybe he should wear the C????

  178. “You have somebody’s back in a bar fight. You have somebody’s back in the parking lot. You can’t really have someone’s back over the internet. Get what i’m saying?”

    **************************************************

    Oh I do. And I did. We are mostly all civil to each other on here (except to Bob LOL). Its a disrespect to Rick & whoever else runs this blog.

    Anyway WD40

    Yep I 100000% agree. Rangers dominated most of the game got at least 12 QUALITY scoring chances. Redden looked great tonight, Dubi was a moster – poor bastard just couldnt finish.

    It was a great played game with a crappy ending. They have been playing like a different team – but just cant finish. Before they were just a sh*tty team.

    At least the game was entertaining.

  179. Mark (the orginal) on

    Well at least Torts said the guys in Toronto said no goal, still awful, but not lon the refs.

  180. lmao!!!! good stuff. anyway, u gotta laugh. u cant get mad. seasons over. it has been 2 months ago. serious changes need to be had next season. i mean get half the pack in here and dump gomer, dru, nas, doobs, zherdev, redden, kalinin, rozy, reitz, voros, dawes, prucha,. keep cally, korpi, betts, staal, mara, hank and vally. lol if only it was possible.

    I like the attitude jerkins perkins. I actually laughed and said “It’s great to be back in 2002!” when the panthers scored their two goals. And the best part hasn’t happened yet! We are going to fall out of the playoffs, and then start winning so we get the worst possible draft pick from the teams who miss the playoffs. Anyways, I think I deserve this torture since I only watched the Rangers for 5 years before they won a stanley cup.

  181. >>Well at least Torts said the guys in Toronto said no goal, still awful, but not lon the refs.

    Oh sorry I missed that. Feel a little better now. I can’t see how they could review it that quick though

  182. Rick

    Did you see the game at all? Im waiting for doodies analysis of it LOL They played a completely different game tonight, unfortunately with the same results. Anderson did make some great saves….

  183. Torts is a smart coach- just with the team for a couple of days and the first thing he mentions was their conditioning. Well, it showed in both games- leads going into the third and you can see in the third they were a step behind

  184. Joeybriggs February 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    lmao!!!! good stuff. anyway, u gotta laugh. u cant get mad. seasons over. it has been 2 months ago. serious changes need to be had next season. i mean get half the pack in here and dump gomer, dru, nas, doobs, zherdev, redden, kalinin, rozy, reitz, voros, dawes, prucha,. keep cally, korpi, betts, staal, mara, hank and vally. lol if only it was possible.

    I like the attitude jerkins perkins. I actually laughed and said “It’s great to be back in 2002!” when the panthers scored their two goals. And the best part hasn’t happened yet! We are going to fall out of the playoffs, and then start winning so we get the worst possible draft pick from the teams who miss the playoffs. Anyways, I think I deserve this torture since I only watched the Rangers for 5 years before they won a stanley cup.

    And With the 1st overall pick in the NHL Draft the New York Rangers select…Taro Tsujimoto

  185. We dominated this game. If they continue to play with this forecheck and intensity the goals and the wins will come.

  186. Matt K.
    February 26th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    And With the 1st overall pick in the NHL Draft the New York Rangers select…Taro Tsujimoto

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    Matt

    Now THAT was funny…. LOL ;)

  187. Mark (the orginal) on

    Drury is now saying a ref told him the Dubi high stick was so decisive there was no need for a review, but Dubi got another explanation, and Torts said Toronto said no goal so who knows.

  188. Actually the Devils dominated their game. Boston dominated their game. To dominate, you have to score. One goal is not dominating.

  189. The day i hear

    Breaking News: Rangers fire Glen Sather and Hire Mike Milbury

    is the day i stop watching hockey.

  190. kc February 26th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Actually the Devils dominated their game. Boston dominated their game. To dominate, you have to score. One goal is not dominating

    **************

    Nuff said

    Screw the shot totals…we’ve lived that already

  191. And With the 1st overall pick in the NHL Draft the New York Rangers select…Taro Tsujimoto

    Matt K: That is hilarious. I can’t believe I never knew this. Absolutely hilarious. I may go on custom ink and make ranger jerseys with this name on it….

  192. Joeybriggs February 26th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    And With the 1st overall pick in the NHL Draft the New York Rangers select…Taro Tsujimoto

    Matt K: That is hilarious. I can’t believe I never knew this. Absolutely hilarious. I may go on custom ink and make ranger jerseys with this name on it….

    The Sabres might sue you. It was Punch Imlach’s idea. Not mine.

  193. Torts need to take this team waaaaaaaaay back to the drawing board. The whole team is still feeling the effects on Rennyism (which is a “defensive” disease that effects a hockey players ability to put a puck into a net due to years of practicing a defense first style of hockey).

    Naslund, Gomez, and Drury need to go!!

  194. What does Orr bring to this team? He has been on the ice for two of the three even-strength goals the Rangers have allowed under Tortorella, once with Betts and Callahan, once with Korpi and Dawes. I say he is dogmeat, in the best Hollweg tradition. Just think, he has a roster spot on the Rangers ahead of Anisimov, on the depth chart. That’s like Wally Pipp being ahead of Lou Gehrig on the depth chart, and he was, until he took a day off for a hangnail. Christ, we always have to have a contingent of fireplugs on a Sather team, while some talented gems languish in Pergatory, Connecticutt.

  195. Rick Carpiniello
    February 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
    MAKO,
    I will see Rangers in 60 later. I listened to it on the radio. Doodie’s not on the unpayroll yet, but I’ll let him analyze it until I see it.

    **********************************************

    Too bad you cant see the entire game. They really played well. Just couldnt put the puck in the net. They had so many great chances.

  196. All Hail King Henrik on

    One for each of the 14 putrid games we’ve played lately:

    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER
    FIRE SATHER

  197. No Country For Old Rangers on

    “Nah, I’d keep Gomez over Drury.”

    I would too buti dont think anybody wants drury. we could actually get something back for gomez. terrible, terrible effort last 2 nights from that guy though

  198. No way that was a high stick. I paused it on the DVR and it was clear to see that it was between Dubi’s waist and neck high= about even with the heart- not nearly above the crossbar. Something’s wrong there. Oh well, just adds to the bad luck they have been having. Can’t catch a break, I’ll tell you.

  199. All Hail King Henrik on

    I was very suprised to see such a lazy backcheck from Callahan and Naslund on the 2nd goal. Naslund’s backcheck was just plain awful–no effort at all. Callahan backchecked with a little more urgency, but still not what we’re used to seeing from Cally. He usually skates hard on every play, but both players were guilty of a lazy backcheck there.

    This team cannot score goals. This game should’ve realistically been 3-0 or 4-0 at the end of the 2nd. It should’ve been over by the time it reached the third. When you allow a team to hang around all game, this stuff happens.

    Renney was only part of the problem with this team, and much smaller problem in contrast to Sather. The architect of this team is at fault for it’s shortcomings.

    FIRE SATHER. FIRE SATHER. FIRE SATHER. FIRE SATHER.

  200. claim vannenen off waiver
    trade gomez for Pronger
    trade Redden, Retiz and Voros for Avery and Grossman

    new d- pronger-staal
    girardi- roszival
    mara- grossman- kalinin

  201. All Hail King Henrik on

    P.S. That first goal looked awful close to me. I was very suprised that Torts wasn’t more animated. Regardless of what he said in the post game about it coming down from Toronto, he should’ve stirred up some sh_t there. It was like watching Renney just sit back and take it all over again. Where’s the fire?

  202. Yeah, I watched that Drury thing too. How is he a leader? He’s done nothing that true leaders do. I think we should start calling him Captain Excuses! All he seems to do is blame everyone else for his inabilities to do whatever. This guy is soooo overrated. He doesn’t score, doesn’t assist, and plays horrible defense.

    Funny how one of his life accomplishments is some f-in little league championships. I know when I think of all the sports greats the first thing that comes into my mind is everything they accomplished before they were 15. What an A-hole.

  203. While the inability to score ( put the puck in the ocean from the end of the pier) is maddening, I’m not so sure the incredibly fragile psyche isn’t actually more worrisome and ultimately won’t be harder to overcome.

  204. oops i meant:

    waive kalinin
    claim vannenen off waivers
    trade gomez for Pronger
    trade Redden, Retiz and Voros for Avery and Grossman

  205. miked February 26th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    claim vannenen off waiver
    trade gomez for Pronger
    trade Redden, Retiz and Voros for Avery and Grossman

    new d- pronger-staal
    girardi- roszival
    mara- grossman- kalinin

    You can only have 2 defense-men on the ice. Why have 8 of them then?

  206. yeah, but Gomez has to stop that crap where he is all alone in front, but instead of facing the net and shooting, he spins away, turns his back on the net and backhands the puck toward the crease.

    that is garbage and has to stop

  207. Torts February 26th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    yeah, but Gomez has to stop that crap where he is all alone in front, but instead of facing the net and shooting, he spins away, turns his back on the net and backhands the puck toward the crease.

    that is garbage and has to stop

    Could you teach Drury how to actually shoot the puck without making a fool of himself?

  208. Leetchhalloffame on

    Yeah, this was all Renney’s fault, right? This is a pathetic offensive team. They can’t put the puck in the ocean.
    FIRE SATHER!!

  209. Mark (the orginal) on

    Vannenen is not an awful idea to claim, as long as they waive Kalin, even though he had a nice pass on the goal tonight. They are both UFA’S after this year, and Vannenen is making less money.

    Also if Sather is going to buy I hope he doesn’t wait for the trade deadline. Torts is going to get some good practices in after this game on Saturday, so go and get the new guys if there any in here soon.

  210. season tix holder and i for one in section 330 started the chants of fire sather. all of the 300 and 400 at once joined in and it was loud and clear. this team is a disgrace and if i had a gun i would shoot all of these losers. gomez drury are nothing but crap and they are worthless.

    we suck so bad and it will not change anytime soon.

  211. Rangers still have a lot of bad habits
    1) not scoring
    2) not getting the shot off quick enough
    3) not lifting the puck
    4)still looking to make the perfect pass or shot

    Gomez is evident – not turning around and shooting,making poor decisions, not throwing the puck at the net when there no where else to go with it

  212. carcards February 26th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Rangers still have a lot of bad habits
    1) not scoring
    2) not getting the shot off quick enough
    3) not lifting the puck
    4)still looking to make the perfect pass or shot

    Gomez is evident – not turning around and shooting,making poor decisions, not throwing the puck at the net when there no where else to go with it

    1 – Shanny and Jagr did that last year
    2 – Shanny again
    3 – Shanny once more
    4 – They mastered it from Jagr so eh.

  213. If Sather does not bring us an offensive threat by tomorrow, he’s as good as done. We can’t afford to wait to the deadline, need those 2 points vs. COL on Saturday night too badly.

    Right now I’d give Tampa whatever they wanted for Vinny.
    Ditto for Kovalchuk on Atlanta.

    Also, as much as I like Pronger, remember that he’s basically Anaheim’s version of Wade Redden. Their fans turn him into the goat just about every game. I still remember how badly Nigel Dawes burned him for that goal when we plahyed them.

  214. List of things i would give up in a trade

    Gomez
    Drury
    Naslund
    Redden
    Reitz
    Rozsival
    Kalinin
    Korpo
    Voros
    Betts
    Orr
    Dawes
    Sjostrom
    Anyone not named Sanguinetti Grachev Artem Anisimov or Del Zotto in Hartford
    Any pick except first rounder.

    Same for everybody else?

  215. rangers had 19 scoring chances to 9 for florida.. as a team FLorida has the highest save % by a lot….

    the trades you guys propose are moronic…

    I look at the bright side of this nightmare. dubi, staal, cally, korpedo, dawes, and others are young..

    what can be said or written?? This is not complicated they outplayed a team and lost because they can’t score so every mistake is magnified…

    that is what I hate about hockey you can dominate and lose….

  216. I gotta believe that the selection of Torts as coach had something to do w/ Sather’s plans to get Vinny somehow.

    Right now, here’s what I’d do:

    Gomez for any winger who can score at least 25 goals a season.

    Zherdev, Dubinsky, Staal, 1st rounder in ’09, conditional 1st or 2nd rounder in ’10 for Vinny. Let’s face it – getting Vinny is just about as close to the 2009 equivalent of bringing in Messier in ’91. It changes your whole franchise and if it means trading your best young defenseman then so be it.

  217. Renney & Stimpyrella on

    Lecavz is not coming to the NY Rangers this year. In fact, he is going to stay right there in Tampa with Marek Malik & Co.

  218. folks, this is the best thing that could possibly happen. we got rid of the clueless coach. now, all the attention is on Sather’s failures.

    the fans are yelling fire sather. that’s great.

    he knows he has to do something right in the trade market to mollify the fans, so that is good

    next week they will be a better team with several new players

    and if they’re not, and it all blows up, Sather takes the hit

    and that is good

  219. yeah get Pronger that is a shrewd move surgeon..

    he is old, overpaid, on the downside of his career, yeah trade for him and give him an extension!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  220. Angry February 26th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    I gotta believe that the selection of Torts as coach had something to do w/ Sather’s plans to get Vinny somehow.

    Right now, here’s what I’d do:

    Gomez for any winger who can score at least 25 goals a season.

    Zherdev, Dubinsky, Staal, 1st rounder in ‘09, conditional 1st or 2nd rounder in ‘10 for Vinny. Let’s face it – getting Vinny is just about as close to the 2009 equivalent of bringing in Messier in ‘91. It changes your whole franchise and if it means trading your best young defenseman then so be it.

    You couldn’t be more wrong.

    TORTS AND VINNY HATE EACH OTHER

    See “Torts strips Vinny of Captaincy” and “Torts sits Vinny for slacking”

  221. Mark (the orginal) on

    Rangers can’t lose these next 2 games. Colorado has been playing on the road for this whole week, and they have no goalie, but that never made a big deal when it comes to the Rangers making a no one look good. Then the Islanders on Thursday, which always plays the Rangers well, but the Rangers usually play them better on the Island than at the Garden.

  222. I think then you gotta take a chance on Gaborik or see if the Wings really will trade Franzen if they know he won’t resign for less $ than he’d get elsewhere. I’d kill to have Franzen.

  223. angry besides the 5 guys and picks you want to give up for Lecavalier why don’t we add about 3 more picks for the fun of it!!!!

    really you can’t be this stupid can you????

  224. Ha, you guys that still site Renney as the problem.

    We had 40+ shots. That’s the best game we can possibly play. We’re just NOT GOOD.

    No talent, no scorers, no big bodies… end of story.

    We dominated the game for 59 minutes.

  225. All Hail King Henrik on

    Matt,

    Regardless of whether or not we keep Gomez…DO NOT SIGN GIONTA!!!

    The ABSOLUTE LAST THING this team needs is another small winger who struggles to score goals. Gomez and Gionta were pretty terrible their last season together, anyways. Gionta is a 20-25 goal scorer at best, his 48 goal season was a complete anomaly.

    With all the size/scoring/talent issues the Rangers have on the wings, another TINY winger in Gionta is the last thing this team needs. We’ve already got the smallest top six in the league. That’s why this team is so easy to box out in front of the net and has struggles scoring on rebound chances. They’re too small / weak to get to those pucks!

  226. What do you guys think is a realistic trade option? Hejduk? Selanne? Tkachuk? I’m exaggerating but just trying to get the point across that we need goal scoring above all else right now.

  227. Brandon February 26th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Ha, you guys that still site Renney as the problem.

    We had 40+ shots. That’s the best game we can possibly play. We’re just NOT GOOD.

    No talent, no scorers, no big bodies… end of story.

    We dominated the game for 59 minutes.

    and for 1 minute we played like The Is-landers.

  228. Renney & Stimpyrella on

    You fellas are looking too much at the big name players to trade for next week. It is NOT going to happen. Instead, look at guys who possess the following attributes:

    1) Can score 25 plus goals per year
    2) can play on the power play, and has 8+ goals on PP this year
    3) Is a forward, preferbly a Winger, but a Center is ok since Torts would move Dubi over to Wing
    4) Is in decent shape and has some heart and grit
    5) Contract that is not over $4MM a year unless someone takes Gomez or Drury back

  229. I agree Drury is no captian. But seriously guys, we were ripping Jagr just as much last year. This year Drury deserves it, but I doubt he is holding back for the playoffs like Jaromir.

    Point being we either have no idea how to choose a leader, or were completely spoiled by Mark Messier

  230. I really Like Gaborik!! He’s just always hurt!! I would take a one year flyer on him. They need Kovalchuck.

  231. Renney & Stimpyrella:

    Johan Franzen. But Detroit would never move him.

    Toronto has Antropov, Stajan, and Ponikarovsky.

    Selanne – not big but lots of PPGs.
    Older than dirt.

    no idea who else

  232. Renney & Stimpyrella February 26th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    You fellas are looking too much at the big name players to trade for next week. It is NOT going to happen. Instead, look at guys who possess the following attributes:

    1) Can score 25 plus goals per year
    2) can play on the power play, and has 8+ goals on PP this year
    3) Is a forward, preferbly a Winger, but a Center is ok since Torts would move Dubi over to Wing
    4) Is in decent shape and has some heart and grit
    5) Contract that is not over $4MM a year unless someone takes Gomez or Drury back

    Wow..you just described Shanahan isn’t he begging to come back too? Oh wait.

  233. Everyone needs to realize that this is the Ranger team constructed by Sather. Torts can spin his head like Linda Blair but this collection of misfits has reached its level and this is as good as it gets. Renney did what he could with these clowns but they don’t deserve the playoffs. The firings were 50% complete, Sather must go. Torts like Renney does not have the talent to succeed. Drafting higher should be our goal.

  234. Matt k- everyone and their brother, sister, autn, cousin whomever has read and heard all about how they don’t like each other. However, winning a Stanley Cup is more important then a player/coach relationship. I would advise you to study up on the 1980 US Hockey Team and see how many of those players HATED Herb Brooks more then we hate Sather.

    Its all about WINNING and Vinny knows that Torts can do it.

    PS-I may have just served you.

  235. Chris February 26th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Matt k- everyone and their brother, sister, autn, cousin whomever has read and heard all about how they don’t like each other. However, winning a Stanley Cup is more important then a player/coach relationship. I would advise you to study up on the 1980 US Hockey Team and see how many of those players HATED Herb Brooks more then we hate Sather.

    Its all about WINNING and Vinny knows that Torts can do it.

    PS-I may have just served you.

    Served? No. You don’t understand. This isn’t 1980 anymore. Plus you can’t be trade from an olympic team. Players demand trades if they hate the coach. Today’s athletes are the biggest pussbags ever. They break a finger nail they demand a trade because the locker room is too dangerous. Vinny’s not coming to the Rangers, if he does get ready for him to break down under the New York Spotlight, because he can barely handle it in Tampa Bay.

  236. wd40 February 26th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    The idiots who can watch a game like that and not see a HUGE difference in the attitude and energy of a team are blind.

    Renny sucked all the confidence from these guys—- they will bottom out soon. His residue can’t be washed away in a day or a week. Maybe not for a few games. But if they keep skating and attacking the goals will come and they will have an identity.

    My work is done here. Renney is gone, a coach who is not afraid to skate and charge is in, so life is good.””

    Exactly! I only wish Renney went sooner. It’ll take at least a week of practices with the new coach. Those that expected a change overnight are really annoying.

  237. Renney & Stimpyrella February 26th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Hejduk, Ryan Smyth and Darcy Tucker could be moved at the deadline for Colorado

    If they trade with us Saturday it’d be cool.

    See Smyth switch locker rooms between periods lol.

  238. get Laracque, Neil, Jannsens, Bell , Avery, Orr, vandermeer, laperierre, Reggie Dunlop, the Hanson bros, ogie ogelthorpe

    become the Broadway Bullies

    beat ’em in the alley

    this current group we have could not even beat them in a bowling alley

  239. Renney & Stimpyrella on

    Matt K- I think there have been a few baseball players that have played for two different teams in the same day after they were traded….

  240. onecupin69years on

    Tape this game and replay it next year when the team is hopefully better and you won’t believe how crappy this team played.
    When you say that they played well but lost is a loser’s attitude.

    i doubt that the rangers will land any big names in trades, because of the contacts , money and lack of young talent to land the big fish

  241. they dominated the first 2 periods again, an did not cash in many good chances.

    and collapsed in the 3rd again

    they are not in shape for high pressure hockey which requires much more skating

    damn you Renney

  242. Renney & Stimpyrella on

    one cup- Plus the fact that their really is not any big fishes who will be traded this year. That is my opinion. Maybe on Defense, guys like JBo and Pronger…but on the offensive side, it will be quiet except alot of these smaller scale trades that will enable the stronger on the cusp teams to get even a little more stronger (Devils, Flyers, Boston, Dallas, Chicago, Washington, and Calgary)

  243. rumor_mill_not_named_eklund on

    Gomez, Dawes, Roszival and a pick to PHO for Olli Jokinen, Derek Morris and a player to be named…

  244. Penner, Staois for Gomez, Kalinin, Sanguinetti, 3rd

    Rozsival to whoever wants to give up a draft pick

    Dawes + Voros + 1st for Antropov + conditional pick

    Redden to Dallas for Avery

  245. I’m really hoping Sather does nothing at the deadline but gets rid of a few people and gives some young kids a crack; I’m gonna be very upset if he does something dumb, but I’m not G and have no say.

    This is a crazy time to be a Rangers fan. Guys, there’s no one big to get. Gaborik ain’t worth it; get him on July 1st once Rozi and Naslund are gone. A minor tweak. I’ll miss the playoffs and be bummed out if it means next year’s training camp is gonna have the two Russians, the two Italian Dmen, and Dubi with a new program and mission given to him by Torts.

    Alright, everyone have a nice week. I’m done posting until post deadline because it’s all I’ve been doing lately, and the Rangers and my job have sucked the life out of me. At least there’s music (Brighton Port Authority) and movies (Watchmen) and gym time to take my mind off of hockey.

    Remember everyone; be patient. We don’t need these sexy names who are on the decline. If we have to lose the battle (this season) to win the war, so be it.

    Peace.

  246. I would not touch that garbage Jokinen for free. he has NEVER made the playoffs, they are now ripping him bigtime in Phoenix, and Fla is way better without him.

    he is a loafing dog.

    all the guys who are being shopped are somebody’s else’s headaches, just like our guys.

  247. I totally typo’d that post; see this team and work have drained me. In any event, yeah, the point is that I’ll be bummed out for like 2 weeks if they continue this way, but I’ll be super enthusiastic going into camp next year as long as Dubi, Staal, Cally, AA, Grachev, Del Zotto, Sags, Sauer, Weisse all have a shot to make this club.

    Sather; don’t screw this up…please!

  248. Knuckleheads, listen up!

    Too many idiots are not seeing what is happening here. Tonite was good. They played hard and carried the action. THERE ARE ACTUALLY SECOND and THIRD chances being generated. This NEVER took place when Tom the Mild was in charge. EVER! So chill out. And btw, all the nimrods who predicted endless odd man rushes against with this posture of pressuring the puck have been shown to be dead wrong. Florida could get nothing going thru 2 periods. So when the Rangers are actually IN SHAPE, they will be a load. Not a Cup contender, but very very hard to play against. THE OPPOSITE OF RENNEYISM.

    It is a matter of time before they begin to score. The worst problems are currently being fixed —- players are freer, and adjusting to it. In other words, they won’t be fined if they’re behind the opposition’s goalline chasing the puck! IT TAKE TIME TO GET RID OF THE RENNEY ANXIETY. They are getting chances —- they will be rewarded in time.

    Remember —- when goals are scored in tight, you do not have to be Jari Kurri in his prime. If they play this game the rest of the way, getting fitter and more comfortable with the new coach, they will make some noise before the season is over.

    My sense is that they will drop as low as tenth, then make a charge that will likely get them eighth place. Who cares, anyhow? What’s important is that Tom Renney —- WHO WAS AFRAID TO ATTACK ATLANTA AND THE ISLANDERS IN HIS OWN BUILDING!! —– is no longer the coach. And his replacement thankfully knows what he is doing.

  249. I agree MikeA. keep all the good kids. start fresh in camp. don’t add more multi-year contracts this week because they are not going to the finals this year, so why mortgage the kids for an impossible dream

  250. Riguere

    I agree. The difference between one goal and two goals, or two goals and three goals, for the Rangers might possibly be realized by second and third effort. How many times have rebounds sat in the slot like plums in front of the opponents net for the picking til the defender cleared it away. It might as well be a Ranger getting to it. Not that there is a greatly skilled scorer, so all the more reason to bust ass to follow up.

    It will pay off.

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