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The Rangers have fired coach Tom Renney and assistant Perry Pearn. Heading to interview players now. More later.

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It’s true. Renney is out, along with Pearn. Jane is at the rink. She and I will both have more shortly.

UPDATE 12:34

Jane here again. The new coach will almost 100 percent certainly be John Tortorellabut here’s how the morning unfolded. The Rangers scheduled a 10:30 workout this morning, but didn’t let reporters in until 11:30 — late enough to have a lot of us thinking something was up. One of the media relations people came in and told us Renney and Pearn had been let go, the other assistants will stay, and then let us talk to the players.

The locker room was pretty subdued by the time we got in there. Chris Drury said Renney was fired at the end of the workout and addressed the players.

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“I just think everyone right now feels for Tom and Perry and all the effort they put in to win here,” Drury said.

Several players said they felt responsible in part for the firing. Defenseman Paul Mara said that the possibility had been in the back of his mind, and that pro teams make changes when teams aren’t winning. The Rangers have lost (or not won) 10 of the last 12 games.

“We’ve still got a lot of games left. We’ve still got a chance to get into the playoffs,” Scott Gomez said. “…It’s a business. You hate to see a guy get fired, but you’ve got to keep going. You’ve got to find a way.”

At least one player alluded that this was the right change to make.

“You have to accept that you need a change,” Henrik Lundqvist said, “and this is the way we have to do it.”

No official confirmation on Tortorella, although Lundqvist said he expected to meet the new coach tomorrow, indicating that the front office has their man. The next game is in Toronto on Wednesday, so this is upheaval that the players will have to work through if the season is to get back on track.

There will be more answers on the coaching situation this afternoon with president Glen Sather scheduled for a conference call.

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  1. How could they do this to the so-called “3rd most successful coach in NYR history?”

    Get ready for all the “Renney is the fall guy for Sather” stories

  2. WOW! Too bad YETI isn’t joining them. Hopefully now SOMEONE with some power play creativity will be in charge of the units, and maybe a coach with a little bit of FIRE!

    Jason, I bet you are right about the 1k comments.

  3. Damn, I forgot to add the 1k would be a record too.

    I can see Schony being the interim coach with Messier as an assistant? That may be far fetched and a coach like Torts or Laviolette coming after the season is over. I’d be happy with either. Both have rings.

  4. YEAH!!!!

    I dont care if we suck the rest of the season, at least next year jsut got alot brighter whoever the new coach is

    Bu bye Tom thanks for the memories

    Bu Bye PEarn, your PP always sucked ass

  5. Woo-hoo!!

    Now if only this made our players less s—-y.

    This can only be good. As long as Slats isn’t going to install himself or one of his cronies behind the bench.

  6. Renney IS the fall guy for Sather.

    Duh!!!!!!!!

    He put this team together; he brought Tom in; he’s gone through more coaches than Amarante’s gone through hair peices; he built the ship!

  7. I think this is a good thing for the team but let’s not forget that Renney did a lot of good things for this organization the last three years.

    Now…

    If we could only get Slats out of here we’d really be in business!!!

  8. I know it doesn’t matter- but think about Howell and Bathgate…it takes how many years to honor them, and then this hits (and totally overshadows them)….kind of too bad…

  9. What is the point? The only way this firing works out is if Sather hires a coach who isn’t a yes-man. If they hire the next Ron Low, does it really matter that Renney was fired? Renney needed to go. No question about that. However, what happens next is really what will make or break this team for the rest of this season and into the future.

  10. I do not think Sather will hire Torts, too much of a personality to deal with. Hopefully its not Pelino, but I do not know too much about him, as in did he have a say with Renney, or did Pearn have his ear? Ahh the plot thickens.

  11. i guess this means we say goodbye to the Line Generator. Just as they were getting to be really good at it too.

    Sather MUST follow!!!

  12. When I saw Renney walk off the bench after last night’s game, I knew he was done. That feeling was cemented during the post-game conference. He had obviously used his entire arsenal of coaching techniques and it just wasn’t working. I will say that whatever you think of Renney, he was a genuinely nice guy to fans. I met him on the street after a game back in December while he was waiting for his limo. He was so accessible and friendly to my family when he didn’t have to be. I’ll miss him but agree with Slat’s decision. I wonder if I’ll still think positively of the GM after Wednesday @ 3 PM.

  13. Also, any word on if Pearn left his ties at MSG as Rangers property, or will he be taking them with him?

  14. No Country For Old Rangers on

    this isnt going to solve all of our problems but still this is huge step. lets get somebody who can get the most out of these players

  15. This just in:

    A mass suicide has been reported. Beer Me, JJP, Brandon, Dude, William, Tom, Mhurley and several others were just seen leaping from the observation deck of the Emore State Building. They were holding hands and chanting, according to multiple sources: “At the end of the day, quite honestly, we are giving the Renney haters something to think about.”

    Film at eleven.

  16. I hate to see anybody get fired, it was a collective screw-up. I hope it provides a clean slate mentally for the players. I dislike the profane comments about professionals, it is in poor taste and shows poor fan-manship.

  17. This all means crapola if the real problem, Sather, is dealt with accordingly, like hey take your cigar toting self absorbed, i do not know how to build a hockey team a$$, off into the sunset.

  18. Renney had to take the fall here, because they can’t get rid of all the players and the Dolans will apparently never entertain the idea of firing Sather. I people remember Renney as being a pretty key figure in making this team respectable again. Three playoffs runs in three years isn’t anything to sneeze at.

  19. OK, this is totally out of left field, and no replacement has been named yet, and Schoenfeld is absolutely the favorite … but I could have sworn I saw Messier walk out of the coaches’ room very late last night, off in the background at the end of the postgame show.

    It might not have been him, and even if it was, it may have meant nothing. Could be he left his jacket or something in there, too.

    But …

  20. Once again, they need to raise a “Renney: 2-1 OT/SO” banner to the Garden rafters so we never have a coach that coaches that way again.

  21. All-

    NO CHANCE that Tort’s becomes the new coach. Slither will never go for it b/c Torts is the type of coach who cannot be manipulated.

    I’ve heard the Schoeny has been seen at a number of recent Rangers games…. he’s definitely the next head coach. Who now is in charge of our atrocious power play??

  22. Good now the morons who wanted Renney gone will have Sather behind the bench or some other relic of Oiler hockey past.

    Slats must go !

  23. mgmt must read this blog, because we absolutely insisted that PEARN must be fired as well as Renney

    2 clueless jokes. good riddance.

    of course, on NHL Live right now. both Jaffe and Dowd are telling us what a great coach Renney is, and how it is not his fault.

    it is not entirely his fault, but it IS his fault along with his clueless partner, Powerless Play Pearn

    I absolutely am sure that they will play better now. cup winning better? no, but better

  24. According to Nick Kypreos on the FAN590,the Rangers are trying to hire John Tortarella.They are talking to him. Nothing done yet.

  25. Carp,

    I heard from someone who attends many hockey games and has numerous connections within the NHL, that Messier is a serious candidate, either as an assistant or a HC.

  26. Rick –

    That definitely WAS Messier last night. I saw the same thing and wondered what he was doing there. New assistant? Probably.

  27. Sather has to go in order for any of this to work. His ‘glory days’ are well behind, and he cannot manuever around the ‘new nhl’ properly!

    I cant even imagine how many posts I’ll have to catch up with here after work! The onslaught you guys are embarking on is going to be pretty interesting.

    Agravaine, Pru may be GONE by the Preds game.

  28. I like Tom Renney, I really do. He did a lot of great things with his time here but this year was a disaster starting with Free Agency which was not his fault. It was his time to go but he did do many good things.

    I see the Rangers trying to get Torts and if they can’t, by a certain hour, they name Schony the interim.

    Naming Messier as an assistant would def make a lot of fans happy and naming him as an assistant isn’t that much of a bad idea. Not sold on him as a HC at all though.

  29. if it is Torts, then GREAT !

    that will be real change if they have gotten rid of Pearn and Renney and replaced them with TORTS

  30. Steve Trac, Sec 303 on

    Thanks for the past several years Tom. It was nice being in the playoffs after such a drought. And I know the signings aren’t you’re fault but you just weren’t able to get anything from your players this year and the organization needed change (and Sather isn’t going anywhere). Good luck with your future.

    Pearn: Regardless of a #1/#2 PK, this team’s PP has SUCKED HORSECAUK the past several years and you should have gone long ago. ABSOFAHKINGLUTELY TERRIBLE how the Rangers have played with a man advantage. See ya.

  31. Wd40,

    Real classy post. Way to bring a cool subject like mass suicide into a sports forum.

    A socially awkward comment from someone who probably spends a great deal of free time surfing beastiality porn on the internet and likely owns one of those high priced sex manicans b/c he hasn’t left his apartment to talk to a real girl that wasn’t his mother in over a decade.

    I’m definitely still a Renney guy, but I’m also normal, which is not such a bad consolation prize on a day like this.

    In all fairness, to the Renney haters who make valid comments and are mature, what will you say if we lose out and don’t make the playoffs? Will you retract any of your Renney hating or will you just chalk it up to this still being “Tom’s team”?

  32. onecupin67years on

    First ,Tom was the WRONG choice from the beginning.

    Sather is next without a doubt.

    I WILL MISS TOM, I FEEL LIKE THE BULLY WITHOUT A KID TO BEAT UP!

  33. Carp, do you think that if the Rangers were to retire the number 6 in honor of Wade Redden he would take the hint? If not, can we all chip in to buy him a leaky canoe, have you deliver it, and tell him all about how great the fishing is on the Hudson?

  34. I wonder if we’ll find out about the whole Prucha situation and the insistence on playing Redden and Voros. Of course, that would require Renney to be completely removed from the Rangers organization.

  35. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Well this is a step in the right direction, yes Renny did do SOME good thing. But obviously it wasn’t enough and maybe the players were making that statement also. Maybe Sather will go at the end of the season, we can only hope. But let’s see if the players respond now, now to a new coach. Time will tell, what a relieve a great big huge SIGH.

  36. I’d be shocked if Messier came on board.

    He’s too smart to put himself in a losing situation and he would never be Sather’s puppet.

  37. It’s Glen’s team and will be until he’ gone too. Now if only Rip Van Dolan would wake from his coma and get rid of the architect of this mess, then we can truly celebrate!

  38. I will sell my remaining tickets for this season.

    As long as Glen Sather remains, I will not renew my subscription.

  39. Pearn should have been gone long ago if it was truly him running the power play.

    I thought Avery should have been brought up (at least attempted) before Renney saw any axe.

    If Sather was going to fire Renney during the season, it should have been done two weeks ago after Clemmensen’s first shutout of the season.

    While I used to support Renney, there is too much that he has done wrong or hasn’t done right this season, like Voros, line choices during games, personnel on the power play, but Sather is the real one at fault here and should be gone, too; hopefully he won’t be behind the bench.

    wd40 – Classic.

  40. francessa just said hes hearing torterella. i hate francessa he also said hes annoyed he might have to talk hockey on his show.

  41. IM SO EXCITED!!

    At this point, I am glad Renney got fired.

    I hope they bring in another coach and the Rangers don’t make the playoffs for another decade. The fans deserve that fate, in my opinion. Renney is the BEST coach we have had since the mid 90’s. Many coaches sucked between then and now. You don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone.

    He was not the problem. But again, when they do replace him and the Rangers get worse, and the bunch of fans here and at the Garden continue to whine about the firing of that coach (it WILL happen), I’ll just smile and be happy.

    As much as I want the Rangers to win and be successful, fans like this make me want to root for them to lose because they don’t deserve a winner.

  42. Brandon, a beastiality reference in a post that wants more class on the site. Outstanding effort! Btw, still waiting to hear how did coaches changed lines when there weren’t assistants, genius

  43. look folks. it comes down to this. you must hold players accountable.

    but all Renney did was hold YOUNG players accountable.

    he never held the real culprits accountable, Drury, Redden, Naslund, Gomez etc

    and for that reason alone, he did a TERRIBLE job , and deserved to be fired immediately

  44. I think it was True Blue that said it, but it’s a shame this had to happen right after the Rangers honored Bathgate and Howell.

    This news will obviously overshadow the pair who should have had their numbers retired a long time ago. They finally did get the celebration they so rightfully deserved, and now we have this news (glorious news)of Renney and Pearn fired.

  45. Pearn was instrumental in getting Redden to sign here. . . . that was grounds for dismissal a long time ago. Avery may no longer be an option with a new coach here. Torts may not take the job until summer.

  46. Avery cannot be brought up, until the Stars place him on re-entry waivers, and some other team below the Rangers on waiver entries can still pick him up. He is still property of the Stars.

  47. OMG SO EXCITED!!!! TORTS for HC Mess for Assistant!!!! LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!! Then Mess could give Redden “THE STARE”

  48. Ugh, Fat Mike talking about Hockey. Its not like he knows anything about other sports anyway, he just reads from other websites all day.

  49. all reports show schoenfeld to take over for now, don’t know for how long, if its interim or full time, but messier would be very interesting….i wouldn’t want to tarnish our view on hi if he can’t get the team rolling, but it would be awesome!
    MESSIER- HEAD COACH
    LEETCH- ASSISTANT COACH AND POWER PLAY COACH

  50. I think that Messier did give some input to Sather, because Messier got Renney fired in Vanc in the mid 90’s, and he knows better than anyone what a crappy coach he is, and what a stupid system Renney has

  51. I’ll bet anything that Jim Schoenfeld is the man taking over. I’d love it to be Tortarella, but we all know that Sather’s ego is too big to bring in a coach who’s his own man. No slight against Shoenfeld, but he’s a company man.

    I was always a big fan on Renney, but the PP is impossible to watch, and Gomer and Drury are just better than this. He wasn’t getting anything out of this team anymore, and they quit on him.

  52. Doodie Machetto on

    Last night, when it was 0-0 after the second period, I told my friend that Renney had a boner.

    Now I’ve got one.

  53. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Chris I guess you saw something 90% of the people on this blog have not seen. Renny was a Ok caoch not a good or a great coach. Yes he did do some good things but me persoannly don’t think he had what it takes to be a great head coach.

  54. Bob McKenzie on NHL Home Ice and Nick Kypreos on fan590 in Toronto both say the same thing — It will be Torts.

  55. Schoenfeld was offered the job b/4 Renney and declined. If it’s him, it’s probably only temporary. Torts? That would be nice but I don’t see Sather doing that.

  56. onecupin67years on

    If its someone from left field like messier or Torts , then

    I think its Dolan making the choice, if its an obvious sather pick some one from within , then its the puppetmaster sather’s choice.
    I know coaching jobs are rare, but whom from the outside , well respected in the NHL will come to this team as a lame duck only to lose the job when sather is fired and the new GM wants his own guy?

  57. Kypreos is pretty plugged in. And Tortorella has been working Canadian TV. But I’d find that an uncharacteristic move by Sather. A great move, but uncharacteristic.

    By the way, Jane’s getting pretty good at this. She did the Jets this season, which ended with a coach firing.

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    man that feels good

  59. Schoney and Torts are very close. This is key. I just don’t know when. I think it may be Schoney as interim, and Torts over the summer. I predict Marty St Louis will be a Ranger soon. . . . .

  60. I think the players just gave up on Renney and Pearn. One more firing…Slats. Now, if we can find a way to lose Redden, Drury, Voros and Gomez. Can we ship them to Hartford in order to make a point? Maybe its time to bring the kids from Hartford up and see what they can do.

  61. Come on Rick, I am still waiting for the best news of all

    that YETI has gone back into the woods of Manitoba to live out his remaining years in solitude.

  62. I actually liked Renney and was hoping he would stay in the organization. You really cant blame him for the atrocious UFA signings that have seriously killed this team’s ability to adapt. It’s also not his fault when he has to play a Dawes, Callahan, or Korpikoski on the 2nd or 1st line and having Chris Drury be as effective as a crippled dog.

  63. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I don’t want Voros in hartford either. He’ll embarrass the organization by losing fights there too.

  64. Schony won all 3 games he coached when stupid Trottier had back problems during his short coaching stint

    Schony also told Sather NO in ’04, forcing sather to go behind the bench and get embarrased bigtime in public every night

    Schony would be a good temporary replacement until they could get Torts in.

  65. Thank god. All I can say is that we should keep Tom with the organization just because hes great with player development and relations. Pearn can go because hes just terrible.

    Word is Tortarella is going to be the coach. Its being reported from Bob MacKenzie.

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    “Renney is the BEST coach we have had since the mid 90’s. Many coaches sucked between then and now. You don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone.”

    Just because he was better than garbage doesn’t make him good. That’s like if I had a bird shit on my head, and then later stepped in dog shit and saying to myself “well, t’s better than having a bird shit on my head.” It still sucks, even if it’s better than something else that sucked worse.

  67. How about Schoeny as GM to replace that tool Sather, and Torts as HC with Messier and Leetch as assistants.

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  69. I called it last night. did any of you see that Renney was the first guy to leave the ice, and had a very morbid look on his face. Its almost as if Sather told him “Win or lose our job”… makes sense…

    BTW I am sure I am not the only one to call this, but I think Renney’s body language really spelled it out for all of us.

  70. Its fun to be a Ranger fan again!!!

    No excuses…that Atlanta game on graves night should have gotten him the axe right there and then

    You play, you play to win…sometimes the EFFORT means more longterm than a stinking single point you get playing his way

    Godd**n does this feel gopod

  71. First I would like to apologize to all NY rangers for the lousy job I did coaching the Rangers.
    I will take full responsibility for the team’s on ice performance.
    But, the coaching style I presented on the ice was by a direct order from Glen Sather .
    And I would like to thank the loyal ranger fans who stuck by my side despite having the most highest paid and underachieving teams in the NHL.
    I guess I sent the wrong message at times, But Glen has offered me a position with the organisation as lead North American scout, which I’m considering.
    Thank you, loyal fans for your unwavering support.

  72. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I saw that. The way he looked up, I think at the scoreboard. That made me so happy to see. Maybe he was looking at the press box as if to say “you win Petr”!!!!!!!

  73. if you’ll remember last night when the Rangers scored the tying goal late, Renney was not happy or excited at all. instead he looked angry and like a dead man walking. so, I believe that he knew the handwriting was on the wall, and his angry response during the first question to him tells me as well that he knew what was coming.

  74. Doodie Machetto on

    “So what happens if we still suck?”

    It casts more light on what a terrible GM Sather is and hopefully Dolan wises up and cans him too.

    Honestly, I’m not guaranteeing any success for this team just because of the coaching change. In fact, I think it’s just as likely that they get worse than they get better. But as I said before, since the players aren’t going anywhere, changing the coach was the only thing that could have happened that stood a chance of improving the team. But just because it MIGHT improve the team doesn’t mean that it will.

  75. Tom Foolery
    February 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    I’m going to have to change my name now

    OK…Glen foolery

  76. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Beer me will come around, everyone know’s this had to happen eventually. The players were just not responding, maybe they thought the team needed a change also. If they come out Wednesday night and paly with some passion this could tell that story.

    Beer me, it’s all good, we are just one happy family, espcially now.

  77. Wish Sather was fired too, but Dolan has such a big “MAN CRUSH” on him, that will probably never happen.

  78. Doodie Machetto on

    Who do you think the new assistant will be? If they can get Gravey on the bench I would LOVE it.

  79. Carp, thanks for updating us in the comments, much appreciated.

    I’d be shocked if it’s Torts, he makes too much sense. He’d immediately change the culture of this team. Torts won’t run Redden out there over and over again if he’s ineffective. He’s regressed Girardi’s development by two years. Horrible.

    Please, bring on Torts!

  80. How about…… SATHER out MESSIER in? We know he wants that spot!! C’mon Dolan weren’t you just elected POPE or something?

  81. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m fairly certain Beer Me! doesn’t give a shit about what anyone says about him.

    I know for a fact that like 2 months ago he posted saying he wasn’t going to be around much because he got a new job. That’s more likely the reason he hasn’t posted, not his fear of all of us boneheads.

  82. If Sather does hire Torts I think it shows he might be getting a little scared himself. That is definitely not the type of coach & personality Sather would ever hire in the past.

  83. as long as sather is GM we screwed anyway… i wonder if it was Dolan who made the decision. if it was dolan who made the call at least he shows that he still gives a damn about this team at all. nevertheless its huge for this team… i just hope we don’t suck with a new coach too…

  84. Rick!!!

    I would LOVE IT if its Torts. He is a no nonsense guy and will hold ALL the players accountable. PLEASEEEEEEEE LET IT BE TORTS!!!!!!

  85. Being a Ranger fan SUCKS , this is the 37 th or 38th coaching change during my lifetime, how do expect me to remember all of their names?

  86. Orr, Doodie, Spider, Salty,Mako, CCCP, staal wart, Zhervalev,Jeffluke,cwgatti, wd40,trueblue,22figure8,sesak

    Dont boogy that dubi…pass it on!!!

  87. Mark (the orginal) on

    Also from Gross, seems like Tom will have some role in the front office.

    Henrik Lundqvist: “It’s a new experience for me, I haven’t been on a team that’s fired the coach. Tom is a great man, I wish him the best. I think he’s going to stay in the organization.

  88. Carp, any word on if he will be kept in the organization as an evaluator at all? He was fantastic in that role and I’ll be pretty upset if he’s just outright fired and not kept around in some regard.

  89. Wait a second, it can’t be Torts. Beer Me assured us all it would never happen because they are bestest friends. AND BEER ME IS HARDLY EVER WRONG….except when he opens his mouth or hits the keyboard.

  90. I think this is going to give the players a boost in desire an ambition just on principle… clearly they were not playing well under Tom.

    All players have a clean slate with me for now. Let’s see who steps up now that tip slit Renney is gone.

    Guarantee a win in Toronto, regardless of coach. They’ll just play hockey.

  91. They had Tortorella but let him go after his interim stint the last 4 games of 2000. If it is him i know him and Larry Brooks had a run in a couple of years ago so it should be interesting. Joe Micheletti on NHL live also beleives John Tortorella

  92. swizzle81 – This is the way it was spelled out by Brooks when Avery was originally sent down. The Stars would put him through re-entry waivers at the request of Sather, at his specified time. The Stars will obviously want to try to get him up before the trade deadline so another team can use him in the playoffs.

    I haven’t seen Beer Me! here for weeks. It probably has to do with his new job. I know he would still be defending Renney for the most part, since it’s easy to pick on Sather, too.

  93. Markus Naslund: “There’s only so many things to do to get the team in the right direction. Unfortunately, this had to happen.”

    That’s pretty telling…

  94. Hockeyman Rangers on

    DOODIe I agree about how successful or not we may be, but now that Renny is actually gone we will know what is’t like with out him. It was obvious something HAD to be done. Win or loose this is a good thing, Renny had his chance now let’s see what happens from here.

  95. Mark (the orginal) on

    “Tom was much better to his players than his players were to him.”

    Joe on NHL Live, also heard what dg said that players tuned him out.

  96. Doodie Machetto on

    Keeping him in the fold of the organization is probably part of his severance package. Like they won’t have to pay him as much at once if they give him a different job.

  97. You have to accept that you need a change,” Henrik Lundqvist said, “and this is the way we have to do it.”

    ’nuff said

  98. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I’m so glad that when I go on Saturday the only “34” I’ll be seeing is on the scoreboard when the Rangers surpass that mark on SOG.

  99. Micheletti also called out the “stars” for not playing well. He said Tom was more loyal to them then they were to him. That was Renney biggest mistake.

  100. BillyDeeWilliams on

    savvy cats…all of you.

    i admit this needed to happen, and it’s in the team’s best interest. the fact of the matter is, if they don’t win with the new coach, then you’re all just as wrong.

  101. Jane painted a much less rosy picture of Lundqvist.

    Even if Renney remains with us for now, he will likely receive another coaching offer soon based on his earlier track record with us.

    Where’s Nasty 1?!

    Salty – Isn’t Drury a tip slit, too?

  102. Im so god damn happy right now !!! I really didn’t think it would happen, but it did, and it’s aboot damn time.

    Bye, bye Renney lovers, bring on the Torts lovers !!

    Time to whip these losers into shape. Hopefully this will fire up these idiots who care more aboot money than winning.

    This may take a little bit of time, but we’re heading in the right direction, maybe this year might not be the year, but we just got a step closer in my opinion.

    If Slats leaves that’s even better, but for now, gotta be happy with this. Hopefully Slats starts to consider his options for Redden, whether it’s trading him, if possible, buying him out, or sticking him in the backseat of Heatley’s care, what ever, get it done !

  103. onecupin69years on

    Sometimes a coaching change only brings short term relief , a one or two game winning streak.
    This team is terminal, it needs major surgery.
    I don’t expect them to go better than 500 the last 21 games.

  104. reginald dunlop on

    be nice if the all-star goalie changed and blocked a shot from the corner or stole a game once in a while……block the puck, thats your job…I’ll accept the change of him playing like an all-star and stop the theatrics of glaring at his teammates on every goal

  105. “Sather to talk to the NY media.”

    Now that’s the most shocking report of the day. Guess their flying him in from a cave somewhere in the middle of Afghanistan.

  106. I have no problem with renney getting fired but the problem isn’t solved completely until sather is fired. I can only dream.

  107. I wish I would have posted this yesterday,after the game last night I said to my son that I gaurrantee that Renney will be fired today,cause if he wasn’t he’d be here all year.

  108. NO HYPE —

    It happens a lot. Coaches lose their teams all the time. It sucks for the coach, yeah, but it does happen.

  109. Mark (the orginal) on

    Did they really have to make Renney do the player/coach meetings todays then fire him, I mean ouch.

  110. THIS IS GREAT !!!!

    HOPEFULLY PRUCHA WILL PLAY MORE AND

    VINNY CAN COME TO NEW YORK TO BE WITH TORTS

  111. you mean Sneerlip Sather actually deigns to appear before the peasants with pitchforks, and utter a few syllables to the assembled inkstained wretches??

  112. Im happy has hell, but we are still missing some important facts. Wade Renny is still on the team, and Sather must be fired

  113. do you guys seriously believe VL will get traded for GOMEZ and a bunch of Jagr sticks & yellow laces?

  114. TOMG

    Definitely. Im still not expecting much from this team, but a move had to be made, and it was a damn good move. If this doesn’t get the players fired up, and make them play better, and at least get the PP just a little bit better, than you have to get to the next step, and get rid of the useless players that are holding the team back, like the Redden’s, Drury’s, etc.

    Im actually surprised that this is moving so fast. Has it been confirmed that Torts is talking with Slats ? Or is it just a rumor ?

  115. “you mean Sneerlip Sather actually deigns to appear before the peasants with pitchforks, and utter a few syllables to the assembled inkstained wretches??”

    IT’S AAAAAAAAALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE AAAAALIVE!!!

    Damn I wish I was back home in NY right now! This will never be on the local news, but damn there will be plenty of high school basketball highlights!

  116. it may have been the meetings that sealed his fate. the players apparently came out of them and told sather they were fed up with Renney

  117. Renney is a good guy and we can’t forget that he was part of the system that gave us a couple of good years after the lockout. He was dealt a poorly balanaced team this year by Sather, so that is where the purging really needed to start. The game has passed Slats by.

    But, something was going on in the lockeroom. Players weren’t motivated, Prucha at times was playing the missing link and the message just wasn’t getting through on the power play. The communications wasn’t clicking and the change was needed.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Schoenfeld for the remainder of the season, with maybe Tortorella as assistant and then taking over for next year. Or is it Mess!!!!!

    Whomever it is, let’s get some life back in the room.

  118. Hello all, I was so busy today that I wasn’t able to post anything. But I was going to write earlier to, expect some news later.

    It is going to be Torts. I am almost 100% certain. Schoney or Messier will be the assistant. I was told this earlier this morning, and I apologize to all of you for not coming on to share.

  119. Dolan can read? He doesnt have his nanny do that for him?

    YETI MUST GO!!! Gotta make the clean break and get the RIGHT people in these positions.

    Agravaine, looks like Sather may be the target of our signs!

  120. No Hype, disgraceful is not fixing the problems, which Renney and Pearn failed to do. The PP has sucked for years. Team is CLEARLY going backwards.

    Why should the players listen if they know what the coach is preaching is not going to yield results? It’s not like this is peewee hockey. These players are professionals and have played the game their whole lives. They understand the system, but it’s not working for them. Why should they listen?

  121. WOOOOOOOOOOO! Somebody up top finally watched a couple games!

    Torts as head coach, mess for asst.? unlikely… but I’d love it!

  122. Torts vs. Larry Brooks in the Octagon

    Meanwhile, Steve Zipay is a bonehead yes man…..That interview on WFAN made me throw up in my mouth. Zipay didnt have the stones to call a spade a spade with this team when asked questions.

  123. Joe in DE,

    When they played his system the way it was supposed to be played, they won. See Pittsburgh game from Jan and West Coast road trip (Kings, Sharks)

  124. Not here to defend Redden..
    but why does Sather get a pass..
    and they shoot shoot Dolan.. he is the worst…

  125. Pearn EArned his firing YOWSAH!!! on

    PEARNY – ADIOS!!!!!!!!!!!

    The only thing Pearny knew how to do was give his 1st intermission load of crap interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  126. Kinda weird that all FOUR teams that started the season overseas in Europe fired their coaches. Not half, not 3/4 but 100 percent! What are the odds?

  127. ANYONE READING UNDER THE LINES OF THE PLAYERS COMMENTS???

    sorry for caps

    Everyone saying Politically correct things and then…”but we still have plenty of season to go” or “its a business” or “we got some time left to right the ship” etc…

    These guys are glad this guy is gone

    They cant express themselves like us but its there….

  128. right, Joe in DE. the players knew the system was wrong, and they could not give it their utmost because they did not believe in it.

    Renney was not just telling kids to look both ways before crossing the street. he was not even allowing them to cross the street.

  129. Now its time for these players to prove themselves.

    Was it Renney’s defensive system that stifled creativity? Or did they not have the talent to score more than 1 a game?

    Whatever the case – the next coach better ride the out of Zherdev and get him more than 15 minutes of icetime.

  130. and the next game is vs the same Leafs. that should give a good indication of how the players respond.

  131. BillyDeeWilliams on

    i just realized that i’ll be at the games on thursday and saturday.

    hopefully this puts some life into their game. i’d love to see them come out and playing at full speed for more than 5 minutes at a time.

  132. Sorry for the caps guys. Im so just freaking excited. Listen, Im gonna go on record and say that Renney was a good guy, I met him at Casino night last year. He was a true gentleman and a complete pleasure to talk to. While I dont like seeing ppl lose their jobs. Everything he tried just didnt work. They needed this they need a coach with passion. Thank you Tom for getting the team into the playoffs but your time has passed. Thank You again. Good luck with your future.

  133. You make the choice:

    Renney stays and we get the 8th seed or…

    No renney and 9th place

    I choose 9th; start again next year with a real hockey coach..heck!! start now

  134. mikey mcdick section 312 on

    All renney was good for this year was lucky wins from shoot outs and his extraordinary gum chewing abilities.

  135. 1. THANK GOD!

    2. This is just Sather trying to save his own ass. If he remains for one or
    more years, the upgrade, while appreciated, will be minor.

  136. PruchaBelongsinTheAHL on

    I don’t get all this Prucha love. He really isn’t very good at all, but some of you think he is the savior. Get real!

  137. BillyDeeWilliams on

    kaspar.

    i take renney and 8th. they’d get rid of him in the offseason anyway. why not at least make the playoffs.

  138. It is mot going to be Sxhoenfeld. It will be an outsider who owes nothing to these players…Torts!!

  139. don’t worry, there will be a couple of trades by the deadline too

    it will be an interesting last quarter of the season.

  140. From Zipay’s blog, Henrik’s comments:

    “We had a workout first, a meeting briefly with Tom and then talked to Glen.” said Henrik Lundqvist. “I wish him the best and whoever comes in here, we’ll have a good meeting tomorrow, get to know him and the race is on.”

    The Rangers goaltender, who has been under extreme pressure with the lack of offense, said “This is all new to me. Tom was here my first 3 ½ years. You just have to realize that this is a business, you have players during the year who leave, guys you knew really well and the next day they’re gone. You need resolve. It’s all about winning and when you don’t, someone has to pay the price. We all have responsibility for this, not just Tom, all 22 guys in here. It doesn’t feel too good. Again we have 21 games left, we have to deal with this.”

  141. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    PruchaBelongsinTheAHL – He is one of the most exciting players to watch, along with Callahan and Korpedo. If you disagree I would gladly listen to your opinion of why Voros is so deserving of being out there.

  142. MAKO

    your right; he did some good things but…starting last year he coached scared

    sometimes you sacrifice a win or a point to show confidence in players or…you discipline them

    You think Billy Martin thought yanking Reggie out of right field for Paul Blair, after he dogged it, would help him that inning or that game??? No…but next game it would and for every player watching that happen you know they would never dog it again…ever

    redden should have been benched or sat out at least once prior to Thanksgiving

  143. And don’t be completely surprised if another something or somethings happen, later today or tomorrow.

  144. Kaspar

    Im looking for it. I’ve read at least 12 different articles on this today LOL I just have to find it.

  145. I’m thrilled Renney is gone, but in reality, how much will this change the Rangers? They still have the same underachieving players (Gomez, Drury, Naslund, Redden, Rozy…just to name a few) and still have a piss poor GM in Sather.

    What can a new coach do?

  146. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I spend good money to go to a couple games a year and the Rangers are one of 2 reasons I pay for TV service (Yankees the other). I feel I am getting robbed when I see Raggedy Aaron Virus out there. Seeing him get rocked makes it only a little worthwhile.

  147. possible reasoning for a delayed anouncment….

    from tsn

    “Tortorella is still under contract to the Lightning, so the Rangers would have to ask permission to speak to him.”

  148. Pearn EArned his firing YOWSAH!!! on

    Prucha is not that bad, not great, but has more skill than a lot of our players. Pair him with someone with Devils Scott Gomez skill and he can still score 30+

  149. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Ok were some of the problems with Tort’s in Tampa??? I am not so sure about Tort’s, but then again I don’t know that much about him.

  150. Was ECKLUND actually right this time??? He said something “BIG” was about to go down. But that was pretty vague.

  151. WOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    I just did a cartwheel across the office floor…they think I’m on ecstacy

  152. they are playing in Toronto wed. Torts works up there on TSN. he can just meet them there tomorrow

  153. And don’t dismiss Avery now that Torts is being mentioned. And those of you that don’t want Tkachuk, well, I am being told that he and Avery will both be wearing Ranger blue before the end of the week. They want to bring Keith in for veteran presence, scoring ability, leadership, and to keep Avery in line, along with Torts. But I don’t think that is all that is going to happen.

  154. No more Renney. Lets hope this means the end to a lot of other things:

    No more Renny post-game psycho-babble.

    No more love-ins with the press corps how great a coach Renney is.

    No more coasting for overpaid veterans.

    No more incessant line juggling.

    No more waatching the same shitty poweplay get marched out there time after futile time.

    No more playing the skate to the blue-line, give up posession with a dump and go for a line change.

    No more hearing how inept players are in the lineup because they have “good size”.

  155. MAKO February 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Was ECKLUND actually right this time??? He said something “BIG” was about to go down. But that was pretty vague.

    I didn’t need Ecklund to tell me something big was going down today. I knew once we lost that Renney was gone. There was no way this organization was going to let this keep happening

  156. PruchaBelongsinTheAHL on

    PruBelongsOnTheIce
    I didn’t say Voros deserves to be out there and I’m not comparing him to Prucha. They both belong in the AHL.

    Korpedo hasn’t been that impressive either, although better than Pruch.

    I do agree with you on Callahan.

  157. Pearn EArned his firing YOWSAH!!! on

    NYRANGERS EXAMINER,

    all excellent points. It probably wont change us this season. It might help in the long-term, and if Torts has any effect on loser Sather’s decision making, maybe our team can better too. But, there is always hope that a change in Renney’s retarded “defensive” system with no defense will make us that much better, like bringing in a new coach, Chode Julien, make the franchise with the loserest fans good again, giving me something to worry about come April.

  158. Well if they’re bringing in Tkachuk and Avery there has to be players going the other way or at least out the door.

  159. My money says Sather is stepping aside as GM, remaining President (this way he saves face and doesn’t have to be fired) and Schoney is hired as GM along with Tortorella.

    When we say Regime change, we mean it.

    Doubt there will be any big trades right now – that’s something that takes a much longer time to put together. I am sure this has been in the works for at least several weeks and they just gave Renney until after the retirement ceremonies. I wouldn’t be surprised to know he had a heads up.

  160. Dowd just said that his sources said that a week ago Sather asked tampa for permission to talk to Torts

  161. You nailed it, Kaspar. No more short-term patching, time to go for long-term WINNING! And no more God Damn mother-ducking FA signings for FIVE years, Fats.

  162. Yeah Nasty what the hell was that? LOL
    “…oh and by the way…something else is going down either today or tomorrow…”
    Uh…OK, now what?

  163. So lets see the rubber hit the road – wd40, ford, all others – lets hear your predictions for the remaining 21 games?

    Since it was all Renney, it should be “obvious” now that he is gone.

  164. I can’t believe they fired Pelino too. I thought he would take over. Lets get Michel Therrien from Pittsburgh…lol

  165. hey if its Torts…then we get to see him and Larry brooks go at it!!

    This is getting better all the time

    entertainment my friends..entertainment…remember what that was? Jagr, Avery knocking Marty on his backside…passionate hockey…you want to trap your way and tie- your way into an 8th seed by putting half the world to sleep…good luck; I’d rather watch Roller derby

  166. whoops sorry time delay…

    but another comment on Torts, I guess since he is currently an analyst on TSN, they would have the inside scoop..

    european vacation

    tampa
    pittsburgh
    ottawa
    new york rangers

  167. NY Rangers Examiner, there is lots the new coach can do.

    -Hold players accountable for bad performance or lack of effort
    -properly manage personnel, create complimentary lines and stick with them to promote team chemistry.
    -make better in game coaching decisions. ie, not play Betts in OT even stregnth, leave Valli in for 10 goals, Prucha on the PP, etc.
    -create a new system, such as playing 2-1-2, instead of Renney’s 1-2-2 system. Maybe even putting a forward on the point on the PP.
    -Properly coach the team of effective in game strategy and work with players on their individual strengths and weaknesses.

    Maybe if some of that happens, we won’t have a team of underachieving players

  168. They didn’t fire Pelino…

    Torts will not have Avery on his team, simple as that. No way Avery comes back if he’s coach. He’s been outspoken about his hatred for Avery. Besides, someone else is going to pick Avery up off the waiver wire.

  169. WD40… that was funny… too bad the cement was made out of whip cream and marshmallows!!

    I love how I defended him, while also saying that he was making mistakes and that tabbed me under the “Renney Lover” category… I more had a problem with the terms the “Renney Haters” were throwing around like it was some playground spat over whether girls are ‘icky’ or not. Ridiculous…

    …anyway… all I was EVER trying to say is that these players have been terrible, and should have been held more accountable than a coach playing or not playing a (one,1,single,solo,only) certain player. I don’t have a problem with changing the coach right now… I’m glad they did it today with over 20 to play, than weeks from now and not enough time to make it count.

    So… sorry Tom… and thank you for your service… now if Sather can save his own ass with some more player personnel changes between now and next season… there would be less arguments between us fans over who loves or hates our own people (DUMB)…

    So for the record WD40 and all the others that take it personal when someone has a different look on the same subject… I’m not against the coaching change and I’m still more on the side of these players not being held accountable enough and Sather tying his hands…

    Good luck to us all!

    @@

  170. wow, I’m concerned of what this could bring but optimistic that things could change for the better, I feel bad for Renney because he is not solely responsible for the bad play, but I am happy that Pearn is gone, good riddance…who replaces him? Graves, Mess? Who??

  171. “He (Tortorella) was involved in controversy yet again after game five of Lightning’s series against the New Jersey Devils during the 2007 Stanley Cup Playoffs. During a press conference in which Tortorella was visibly irate and disappointed, he openly cursed on the air and told New York Post reporter Larry Brooks to “get the f— out of here” live on CBC television.” – Wikipedia

    This is going to be fun!

  172. I like Renney as a person, it wasn’t all his fault but Sather isn’t going to fire himself so someone had pay.

  173. PruchaBelongsinTheAHL February 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    PruBelongsOnTheIce
    I didn’t say Voros deserves to be out there and I’m not comparing him to Prucha. They both belong in the AHL.

    Korpedo hasn’t been that impressive either, although better than Pruch.

    I do agree with you on Callahan.

    What Korpedo hasn’t been impressive?
    Korpedo, Dubinski, Sjostrom, and Callahan have been the only noticeable Ranger players doing anything!
    Other than Redden of course…who has be noticeable for all the wrong reasons!

  174. Brooks endorsed Tortorella in his last column; so maybe he’ll give John a clean slate if he coaches here?

    “There is no question whatsoever that John Tortorella is the right man, if not the only man, for the job when and if Sather makes a change behind the bench. He’s the guy.”

  175. mikey mcdick section 312 on

    haha francesca is talking about it on the show he has no idea about whats going in hockey

  176. kaspar, I thought we WERE watching roller derby

    the Rangers kept calling off the jam before they scored.

  177. Just a thought on

    Tkachuk has no trade clause and will waive it to go to a stanley cup contender…and that is not us

  178. This might be a win-win. If the team starts playing better because of the new coach, then I’m all for it. I think we’re a 1 and done team if they make the playoffs, but the style of play can’t possibly be any less entertaining than it is now.

    Or, they continue in their downward spiral and maybe they rip up some of the bad contracts in the summer. At the very least we’d know it’s the players that are the problem as well.

    Is is true that the Rangers had a higher payroll pre-lockout? Ths would lead me to believe that they could potentially stick Redden in the minors to avoid his cap hit (better than buying him out which incurrs a cap hit). Not saying they would do that, but anything that gets these guys going is fine by me.

  179. The Blues are going to trade Tkachuk to a contender and get things they can use for rebuilding back. They arent going to trade Tkachuk to us for Prucha’s expiring contract, AND give us a pick on top of it.

    People, please use common sense before posting trade rumors.

  180. Liquid –

    Sure. Tortorella gets signed to a multi-year deal. Once fired he is no longer the Lightning’s coach, but the Lightning still have to pay him for the duration of the contract. So he really is till under contract to them.

  181. the saddest part of all this… renney and pearn will get hired somewhere else at some point.. for those fans i am truely sorry..

  182. I am not gonna say who the new coach is, but the 1st post game presser will go like this:

    Larry Brooks: “Coach, can you tell me what went wrong tonight?”

    New Coach: “Go F*** yourself, Larry”

  183. Staal Wart
    February 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    Tkachuk? What has this guy done? He made such a difference with Atlanta huh?

    Well said! We don’t want him!

  184. Eddie O is the biggest suckup jerk. he is again praising Renney to the high heavens, saying it is none of his fault

    as a fired coach himself, he just cannot admit that Renney did a terrible job this year especially

  185. Although the Rangers may win a couple of more games with a new HC, it still doesnt solve the problem that Sather is still in charge and the roster is a mess with overpaid veterans, who quite frankly suck this year. I surely hope some trades are in the making, ie Gomez, Rosival. I am not listing Redden because no one would want him.

  186. It’s about time that tom got fired,with that said I still feel bad that as a Good man as he is has lost his job. The real villian in this is sather,he created this bunch of overpaid FATCATS but some how he survives. Can someone say man love with dolan?
    Now their has to be a house cleaning by the team.Starting now with some trades and waiving guys like deadden and miss rosy.It is going to have to get worse if thats possible before it can get6 better. But as a Ranger fan I hope it gets better in a hurry.

  187. This is not a result of anything Tom Renney has done. He has been juggling lines, trying new combinations on the PP, anything to jumpstart the team. The team flat out sucks. Gomez (12 goals 30 assists -9) Drury (15 G 23 A -11) Naslund (18G 18A -14) Redden (2G 18A -11) Rozsival (8G 20A -14) Glen Sather (responsible for the prior group making 7, 7, 4, 6.5, 5 million respectively as well as 3.5 million combined for Voros and Kalinen) are to blame. There are TWO RANGERS THAT ARE POSITIVE, Zherdev +2 and Callahan +1. That is a COMPLETE JOKE.

    This is a team with NO HEART, NO LEADERSHIP, NO DESIRE TO WIN. Those things can not be coached, they are on the players. Dolan needs to fire Sather immediately. There is no cap space left to make any real moves via trade, and the team is trapped. The Rangers have to buy out Redden and pay 2 million a year for the next 10 rather than 6.5 for the next 4. Drury and Gomez left their hearts in Buffalo and New Jersey, and neither seems to care on bit about this team.

    As much as I really don’t like the guy anymore, the Rangers need Avery. They need someone who will stir the pot because the current group of veterans are playing like they are in a beer league. Redden is killing Girardi’s development and Drury, Gomez and Naslund are killing Zherdev’s playmaking abilities and Dubinsky’s ability to be a power forward.

    It is so sad that Renney got fired because think of the Rangers pre lock out, getting destroyed by the Devils for years, being a perennial joke and think of them now. All due to Renney. It was apparent that the leadership on this team was a complete JOKE when Renney sprinted the team one night for practice and the very next game they lose to Dallas 10-2.

    A good coach took a fall today because higher paid men are incompetent, the fans are giving money to Sather and he spends it lavishly, foolishly and ridiculously. I guess the Rangers have become a microcosm of our country.

    I am ashamed to be a blueshirt fan today, the team quit on a good coach and a great man.

  188. Pearn EArned his firing YOWSAH!!! on

    whoh is keith tkachuk??????? When i hear the names of playmakers or valuable contributors, his name never comes up!

  189. Whataretheodds? on

    Fat Mike admitting he doesn’t know a thing about hockey and letting Eddie O explain why the team was crashing and burning.

  190. Look, I am just letting you know what I am hearing. My guy was right about the firing, so I will at least entertain the other news that was passed along.

  191. For the record I was never pro-renney or anti-renney. But I’ve had beyonce in my head alll day.

    “If tom liked it, then he shoulda put a ring on it”

  192. Jive
    February 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    The Blues are going to trade Tkachuk to a contender and get things they can use for rebuilding back. They arent going to trade Tkachuk to us for Prucha’s expiring contract, AND give us a pick on top of it.
    People, please use common sense before posting trade rumors.

    Dude I didn’t make it up!! It was reported on the Toronto feed at last night game!!

  193. I think I’ve just recovered from the deep depression I’ve been in the past couple of weeks. Ranger fans everywhere are shouting Haleluliah!

  194. nick February 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    the saddest part of all this… renney and pearn will get hired somewhere else at some point.. for those fans i am truely sorry..

    Not true, Sather will not be the GM where Renney ends up. Renney does deserve some blame for sure but Sather caused all of this.
    BTW didn’t someone above say Renney will still be in the organization?

  195. Hmmmm, rumors already swirling that Tort’s is the guy, and in the last two-three weeks, the Rangers have been linked to several Vinny rumors.

    Interesting….

    Tort’s….then Vinny coming?????

  196. I forgot who asked … but I have it from an impeccable source … the only less-than-one-percent doubt is that they have to work out the contract details. Tampa Bay should not be a a factor after he was fired. They have no rights to him, unless there was something very unusual in the his severance agreement.

    But I’m sure they are working on a contract with Tortorella now. And probably have been for at least a few days.

  197. Just a thought on

    Nasty is that the trade you heard for Tkachuk? I beleive it if we are giving draft picks.

  198. Tom Foolery
    February 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    Eddie O kissing Renney’s ass on WFAN. What a joke

    The amazing thing about Eddie O is what was his part in the 94 season, cheerleading? This guy is a fool.

  199. Well that is the other thing. The Vinny thing is something I heard a few weeks ago. I heard that a new coach would be named, and the guy would be someone who was once with the organization, and that he would then be bringing in a friend with him. I don’t know if that means Torts and Vinny, because they are not exactly friends, but who else could that have meant?

  200. Well, Sather just satisfied 99.9% of Ranger fans by firing Renney AND Pearn, so now he’s due to make a trade to piss off 99.9% of Ranger fans… probably Tkachuk :(

  201. If I had any guts, I would go behind the bench myself and show the world how great I would be at coaching a group of underachieving, overpriced, easy to play against hockey players.

    I’m a hockey genius, remember?

  202. Sather’s the one who should be fired, but if the coaching replacement is Torts that’s a big plus.

  203. hey coach, do you also believe in the tooth fairy? I won’t even bother to list all the bad moves made by Renney again. they have been listed many times.

    but when you say they have no desire to win. hey pal, is was RENNEY who played for a shootout. it was RENNEY who told them to play a hangback trap. it was RENNEY who refused to hold those overpaid vets accountable and bench them.

    don’t give me that . get a clue.

  204. Coach, I don’t think anyone will completely blame Renney for the Rangers struggles as of late.

    During his seasons in New York, Renney has done some good and we should be thankful for that.

    Unfortunately, the coach takes the blame for his team’s struggles, whether he is fully responsible or not. It was; however, Renney’s time to go, as he was making a lot of coaching mistakes this season. Hopefully the new coach can get this team back on track.

  205. What happens if they don’t have a contract worked out by Wednesday? Jim Ramsay becomes HC?

  206. Let me ask you this. If in all this, we lose Rozi, Dubi, Prucha, and one of Gomez/Drury, and gain Vinny, Tkachuk, Morris, and some throw in players, could you live with it?

  207. Interesting note that was mentioned from Jaffe & Dowd on the NHL LIVE is that Renney will continue to be with the Rangers organization.

  208. If the Rangers players are glad Tom Renney is gone, they are as dumb as they are overpaid. Aside from Prucha and Lundqvist, Tom Renney did nothing but treat these players with respect, supported them no matter how poorly they played, and gave them ample opportunities to justify that positive reinforcement on the ice.

    Lundqvist, btw, should be happy to see him go – but only because he should hope that a new coach doesn’t let the skaters on the ice float around leaving him defenseless.

    If Sather truly hires someone that is not afraid to get in a players face, then god help guys like Naslund, Drury, and Redden. They will want Renney back faster than you can say “9th Place”

  209. Nasty

    I would rather Redden, Rozi, Dubi & Drury. Because I think its next season where Vinny’s contract kicks into $10mm right?

  210. I am sure Renney will be a scout or something and then be picked up by another team who needs a coach next year. Pearn, well, I don’t think Pearn will find another job.

  211. Wait a minute, didn’t Renney help us win a cup, oh yeah the Victoria Cup (a trophy with extra large straws on top)

  212. Nasty, I would not trade Dubi…ever. He is all heart and soul and reminds me of Graves. He is only in his second year.
    Will he be the next Vinny…no but he IMO is a player worth holding on to.

  213. Nasty:

    Maybe his “friend” could be an asst coach or it could be his skating guru Paul Vincent…my kid attended some of Vincent’s hockey camps and they work the crap out of you…could be just what this team needs

    I just can’t see Vinny happening…if he goes anywhere it’s got to be Mtl…they’re drooling over him

  214. Zhervalev,

    99.9% of the blog, not 99.% of fans. I have season tickets in the blues and I know for a fact significantly more people in the 400’s blame Sather over Renney.

    Despite what many of you may think, this blog is not a reflection of the general voice of the Rangers.

    There wasn’t one single fire renney chant last night, but there were significant fire sather chants.

    Might not mean a thing in the grand scheme of it, but this blog is by no means the voice of the Rangers.

  215. Domi28
    February 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    Wait a minute, didn’t Renney help us win a cup, oh yeah the Victoria Cup (a trophy with extra large straws on top)

    ******************************8

    An uglier hockey trophy I’ve never seen…looked like John Belushi as the “king bee baby” buzz buzz, buzz buzz

  216. Pearn EArned his firing YOWSAH!!! on

    NY RANGERS EXAMINER,

    I do agree that Renney has done us some good. but look from another perspective, Jaromir brought NY back to respectability and was still one of the top five in the NHL. With a nondefensive system, who knows what Jaro and the Rangers could have done.

  217. NY Rangers Examiner
    February 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    lol Domi28, I thought the Victoria Cup was pretty cool.

    They could of done a better job with that trophy, only thing that was cool was that it lights up like a HESS TRUCK.

  218. Eventually I would love to see Messier behind the bench or even more, become the Ranger GM. He is a very smart hockey mind that would certainly excel as a GM and would make the right decisions.

  219. Renney was working as the player personnel director when they made him coach, so it is no surprise that he is going back into the office.

    that tells you that no one else wants him. he just skulks back into his cubicle job , and the peter principle is verified once again.

  220. Renney cost us the cup in 2007-08

    Irish wristwatch

    Fook Tkachuk

    oh and…to Perry Pearn and his interesting tidbits in between periods:

    “Dont let the door hit you in the a** on the way out”

  221. “renney cost us the cup in 07-08″

    Well, maybe. Then, maybe again, if Hank made a single routine save up 3-0 in game 1 today doesn’t even happen.

  222. from Wikipedia on Tortorella:

    “He was involved in controversy yet again after game five of Lightning’s series against the New Jersey Devils during the 2007 Stanley Cup Playoffs. During a press conference in which Tortorella was visibly irate and disappointed, he openly cursed on the air and told New York Post reporter Larry Brooks to “get the f— out of here” live on CBC television.”

  223. NY Rangers Examiner,

    I agree and also think that Messier would be excellent behind the bench, but he would have to start out as an AC I inagine. Gain experience much like McTavish and Lowe did in Edmonton.

  224. no, they still had to pay him on his longterm contract. thus, they must give permission to another team to contact him.

    and if he takes the Ranger job, then Tampa does not have to pay him the rest of the money they owed him.

  225. ..the team still needs a personnel change..

    btw, did anyone notice last nite for a split second during a broken shift change (surprise) Girardi and Staal were on the ice together and for that 15 or so seconds, there was some cohesion on the blue line.. than Redden came out..and it all fell apart (i think that was one of the shifts Reddens gave the pouck away behind his own goal line)..

  226. Brandon, shut your mouth dude. You’ve been so wrong the psat year you’ve been here. Thanks. While you’re at it…

    *WHERE THE HELL IS BEER ME!!! HAHAHA. BRANDON, FIND HIM!!!*

    BEEEEEERRRRRRR ME! hahaha. What now?!

    Wd40, your news report was priceless.
    Salty, I feel like we’ve been calling for this maybe 2 years now… it finally happened. There really are no words. Wow.

  227. i cant wait until Torts sees Redden dragging ass and makes him do sprints until he collapses. literally

  228. Brandon
    February 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
    “renney cost us the cup in 07-08”

    Well, maybe. Then, maybe again, if Hank made a single routine save up 3-0 in game 1 today doesn’t even happen.

    Yes Brandon

    Hank cost us the cup and Renney his job

    Screw Tkachuk
    Screw Tkachuk

  229. I Bleed Rangers Blue on

    No, of course Renney is not 100% responsible for the mess we find ourselves in but he was the most visible face of authority every game. Renney stood behind the bench, not Slats. At the same time, Renney made way too many head-scratching moves (not sitting the marquee names when they deserved to sit, incessantly healthy-scratching Prucha when it sometimes seemed like he was the only one on the ice who skated/played like he gave a #@$%, etc., etc.) not to be seriously questioned.

    Re Prucha: I doubt he’s smiling; just feeling relieved (but still worrying whether he will be shipped out before the trade deadline). He’s too nice a kid to be happy at someone else’s misfortune–even if that someone is the coach that has held him down for at least the past two seasons.

    Pru is not a play-maker, he’s a scrapper with a decent shot who doesn’t fear to fight in the corners or plant himself in front of the crease. IMHO, if you skate him with a couple forwards who can turn on the speed (at least when they want to) like Zherdev on RW and Gomer or Duby at C that has the makings for some success. No, Pru is by no means this team’s savior. But, he is the best example of how not to capitalize on a quality player’s potential and skills.

    There. I said it.

  230. Leetch is the man on

    They def needed a change, but its a shame Sather was going along with hi. Dolan has to blow this team up like the Knicks. He is going to buy out Marburys contract cuz hes rich and can. He needs to do the same to the Rangers to get these numbers off the books. After that build with in the draft and sign one big name guy.

  231. Doodie Machetto on

    “but who else could that have meant?”

    The assistant coach. Don’t overlook that they fired Pearn too (thank God). I honestly am happier about Pearn than Renney for two reasons:

    1) Pearn runs the PP.
    2) Pearn is the reason we have Redden.

  232. I think Tom was a decent coach, but enough is enough. I hope this change kicks the team into gear.

  233. Hopefully the media will press Sather to admit his mistakes in the cap problems as well as not bringing back Jagr. Will Sather take any responsibility whatsoever?

  234. first

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268369&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

    Sources say the New York Rangers and John Tortorella have an agreement in place that would make him the next head coach of the NHL team, but that the Tampa Bay Lightning have not yet been contacted for permission.

    A current NHL on TSN analyst, Tortorella remains under contract to the Lightning for the balance of this season. In order for him to become head coach of the Rangers, he requires the blessing of the Lightning.

    Details to follow.

  235. Leetch is the man on

    Tom was solid but our roster wasnt meant for his system. He will coach somehwere next year. Unbelievable how Sathers still has a job. I wonder is Dolan pays attention and says wow he did great this offseason.

  236. Voice of Reason on

    While I agree with the decision to let Renney go, I have to say that he was a classy individual, that I feel bad for. He never quit. He just didn’t entirely get it.

    Probably will be a terrific Personnel Director, not a Coach

  237. ..Tampa Bay shld screw over Sather.. make him give up a draft pick..adding to Sather’s legacy

  238. Sather will not take blame for his mistakes, he will likely throw Renney under the bus or just completely ignore the question.

  239. Hey Jane, you forgot Wade Rdden’s reaction to the news that Renney had been fired and Tortorella was coming in to replace him:

    “John Tortorella? Oh, SH!T!”

  240. The conference call is slated for late afternoon, 4 to 5 ish. They haven’t nailed the definite time yet.

    And Kaspar — watch what you say about roller derby!

  241. True fans, WD40, Ford, Gresch, Peter, Fran(?) and many others, lest we for get the *original* Yenner Mot *BOB*

    We’ve been calling for this for at least 2 years

    Finally, we can be proud fans again.

    Tortarella, you are welcomed with open arms, for now.

  242. I feel for Renney as a person but please; lets not cry tears for a guy who had Lundqvist in his prime; a horse named Jagr to ride ( and shoulder the blame) free agent stanley cup winning signings like Drury, Gomez and Shanahan….so what? he had one Wade Redden and its cry for Tom time…???

  243. the media did not get Renney fired. hell, they were the ones defending him

    no, it was the players who got him canned, along with a push from us fans.

  244. Great news today! Glad Torts is on board.

    IMO sather is on his way out. he cant hide behind renney anymore. he just lost that excuse. i think we will see the media (ex. eddie O) go after him a bit more because for one reason or another the media has a soft spot for renney.

    i also like hearing that torts and schoeny are pals. i think sather steps back this offseason, schoeny takes over the GM duties and Torts is signed on for coaching.

    all wishful thinking, but today the NYR are starting to get back on the right path.

  245. Doodie Machetto on

    In exchange for Tortorella, the Rangers will have to I convert their concessions to all chicken. Instead of hot dogs, chicken dogs. Instead of pretzels, chicken twists. Instead of beer, alcoholic chicken.

  246. Jane
    I wont mention Roller Derby or Bay Area bombers ever again…

    A little advice
    Tell Sather your from Edmonton or Prague and he’ll be more open to conversing with you

  247. Kaspar

    This is the quote:

    “There’s only so many things to do to get the team in the right direction,” Markus Naslund told reporters at the team’s practice facility in Tarrytown, N.Y. Monday. “Unfortunately, this had to happen. I know both Tom and Perry put their soul into this to get this going. For some reason, we haven’t found a way. I feel for them but, at the same time, you have to look ahead. We need a jump start right now, a new beginning.”

  248. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers try and go after a former Devils’ coach like Robbie Ftorek being as they go after all the Devils players thinking they will win with the Rangers the way they did with the Devils. The Drury, Gomez, Redden signings are leaving the Rangers shitty for the next 5 years at least.

  249. I’m one of the few Ranger fans that don’t place all the blame on Renney.

    He tried every kind of permutation to make this team work as an effective unit and still no avail, what does that translate into? This group of players can not win together! Perhaps Renney lacked the ability to properly prepare and motivate this team to play well together, but I don’t think that’s the problem. We have a group of guys that simply don’t gel in any way. The early success at the begining of the season makes it mind boggling to see where the Rangers are at now. But perhaps it took a month or two for the rest of the NHL to find their indentity whilst the Rangers still do not have one.

    I hope this coaching change will effect a change in the players mindsets, but I expect nothing to change.

    Send Redden down to Hartford, call up Prucha and any of our young Defensemen and let them showcase their skills and prepare for 2009-10.

    I’m still sick to my stomach with the way this team has performed since Jan 1……

  250. Thanks Mako

    and another thing…I just read the NHL.com story….thanks Doogie but…is there anyone in the world who gives a crap about what Jacques Martins opinion on this is??? I mean..who’s next? Lou Albano???

  251. the fans on Fatty francesas show are mostly all Renney lovers

    none of them will admit the problems with his system, his lack of holding vets accountable, his putrid PP, his benching kids

    no wonder they keep buying MSG tickets

  252. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    I feel like it’s Christmas all over again!
    WOOOHOOOO!!!

    Sorry, Tom, but your time was up. This team needs life.

  253. hey guys check out tsn its saying torts is new coach

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/

    Sources say the New York Rangers and John Tortorella have an agreement in place that would make him the next head coach of the NHL team, but that the Tampa Bay Lightning have not yet been contacted for permission.

    A current NHL on TSN analyst, Tortorella remains under contract to the Lightning for the balance of this season. In order for him to become head coach of the Rangers, he requires the blessing of the Lightning. Sources also tell TSN that the NHL’s head office is now involved in the situation regarding the Rangers, the Lightning and John Tortorella.

    Tortorella led the Tampa Bay Lightning to their franchise’s first Stanley Cup title in the 2003-04 season as the Bolts defeated that Calgary Flames in seven games. His 239 career wins is second to only Peter Laviolette as the most ever by an American-born NHL coach.

    The Boston-born Tortorella began his NHL coaching career as an assistant with the Buffalo Sabres in 1989. He then captured the Calder Cup in 1996 as head coach of the AHL’s Rochester Americans.

    Tortorella replaced Steve Ludzik as the Lightning’s head coach in 2001. The Lightning reached the playoff four times on Tortorella’s watch, winning the Southeast division twice in the process.

    Tortorella was fired by the Lightning after the team missed the playoffs last season. He was immediately scooped up by TSN, joining the NHL on TSN panel.

    Details to follow.

  254. If we get Tortorella and IF (I said IF) Avery comes back with the Rangers….could we see the first coach vs. player on ice fight?

  255. What makes people think that Sather will allow questions during the press conference? He’ll probably have a cliche filled statement and then that’ll be it. I highly doubt he’s going to subject himself to a firestorm.

  256. The whole idea behind Avery was adding some fire to this life-less bunch…if we gotz Tortz then we dont needz avery

    save cap space ( unless we can get rid off a contract for him…)

  257. Sjo,

    I’m excited… but then again I’m always excited to go to games
    I don’t know if we’ll get to 1000 because I bet there will be a new post…

  258. It is definitely not all of Renney’s fault. Sather didn’t equip him with the players he needs. However, and I very much like Renney, his style of coaching is that players are interchangeable. Essentially, system first. The problem with that is when the GM doesn’t supply you with the players to do what you want. At that moment, you have a decision to make. Do I stick with my system regardless of what may happen, or do I alter my system to maximize the strengths of my players and minimize their weaknesses. Tom chose the former. That got him fired. If he did the latter, the Rangers wouldn’t have won the cup, but they would be playing better. As anyone who has played hockey will tell you, it is a game of aggressiveness and instinct. If you are spending too much time thinking, then you are always behind the play and are too timid to make a difference. Sound like a team we have seen?

  259. Now whose going to replace pearn?

    I would not mind MEssier at all, get his feet wet, he’s gonna be a HC no matter what eventually anyway.

    Im real curious to see what lines Torts , If he’s the new coach, is goign to put together
    plus what PP units he’s goign to constrcut.
    I GUARaNTEE YOU if he keeps the same lines for WEd its only to evaluate them all, they wont last long, mark my words

    MAYBE onyl thing he keeps is Dubi as wing to Gomer

    But lets see if Torts has the vision to see PRucha in the lin-up and Voros washing the previous games Jerseys.

    Also you think Renney will give Torts advice or he will ask Renney for advice? They are good friends remember

  260. a side bar….http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268369&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

    “A current NHL on TSN analyst, Tortorella remains under contract to the Lightning for the balance of this season.

    In order for him to become head coach of the Rangers, he requires the blessing of the Lightning.

    Sources also tell TSN that the NHL’s head office is now involved in the situation regarding the Rangers, the Lightning and John Tortorella.”

    I really hope Tampa Bay isn’t screaming tampering…

    Please don’t *uck this up Sather…ie: tampering…then having to giving up draft picks, or $$…

  261. Pierre Mcguire is slamming Sather on 1050 sports, says he is one of several NHL GMs who hoodwinks an owner into thinking he knows hockey. And the Rangers scouting staff is not good.
    Mcguire said Redden showed up this year out of shape, which has been a recurring problem for him over the years. Great.

  262. Tortorella memorable quotes http://hockey-madness.blogspot.com/2008/06/john-tortorella-fired.html

    “And I hope he (Sean Burke) plays well,” Tortorella said. “And if he plays well, he’s going to go again. This is what we have. And I’m not up here trying to rip anybody apart, but let’s be fucking honest about what’s going on here. And it’s getting old. We’re going nowhere, nowhere until that (goaltending) situation is straightened out.”

    After a disappointing loss to the Flyers in the Eastern Conference Finals, Tortorella was mad at then-Flyers coach Ken Hitchcock for barking at Lightning players. In a classic interview the Tampa coach said:
    “Last time I looked, he’s wearing a suit back there, the same type of suit I’m wearing,” Tortorella said. “He’s not in the battle. There are two quality teams here. He should shut his yap. It’s not about him. It’s about two quality teams.
    We understand how Philly works as far as the dialogue that goes on with all this stuff here, but when it comes to a coach and an opposing player, it’s disrespectful and it’s wrong. That’s got to stop. Park your ego. Shove it in your pocket.”

    can’t wait!!!

  263. Paul Ranger is out for the year.

    enough with the Renny hate, he turned this joke organization around, yes obviously Jagr and Lundqvist were key.

    Sather is the problem obviously and there cap situation is bad but they can work around it. Losing Cherapanov does not help.

    I hope if Torterella is it and redden and others play like they have he holds them accountable else why make the coaching change?

  264. am i the only one who thinks that this is a bad hire? i think the defense crumble in tortorella’s up-tempo system. more importantly they do not have an offense good enough to be successful with tortorella. hope i’m wrong.

  265. Pierre, just mentioned (a younger) Redden’s name in the same sentence as Bourque, Leetch and Pronger… he was never in there – greanted he may have been speaking of the specific ability to keep the puck in the offensive zone, but, COME ON! Has he made 2 decent plays to keep the puck in the O-Zone this year?

  266. STAY THE COURSE RENNEY. THERE YOU GO YOU FCKNG PRCK NUGGET.

    RENNEY COST US WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN AN *AMAZING* SEASON LAST YEAR… FOR THAT, I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM.

  267. that’s right Stuart – I forgot, ranger was out came back and got re-injured.. still a good trade for Redden

  268. I still would like to see the Rangers pick up S. Avery if and when Dallas recalls him through re entry waivers.

    Some say that Torts and Avery would not mesh well….But maybe it will be what Avery needs to take him to the next level, and that would be – a consistent hockey player….

    Torts and Avery would have that whole “Tough love” relationship thingy going on……

    would be interesting

  269. It will be fun to see Tortorella’s reaction on the bench during the next too many men on the ice penalty. At least the entertainment value has just skyrocketed. If only the players could provide some entertainment as well.

  270. these morons who call in and say they have no scoring like they had last year.

    wake up people. they also finished near the bottom of the league in scoring last year too.

    so, that tells me it is more about the system than the personnel.

  271. Billy C
    February 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    am i the only one who thinks that this is a bad hire? i think the defense crumble in tortorella’s up-tempo system. more importantly they do not have an offense good enough to be successful with tortorella. hope i’m wrong.

    ************************************************

    Its a WHOLE new ball game. Now we will see what these players are made of with a No-nonsense coach behind the bench who holds *ALL* players accountable. :)

  272. Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!

    I’m actually a Renney fan, but this is overdue. He essentially fired himself, with the neverending PP problems (thank G*d Pearn is out too!), and complete inability to get his players to be accountable and perform.

    He should get credit for bringing the Rangers back to respectability after the lockout, but this is the right move, and Torts is the right guy.

    The Country Club is now Closed!

    Now, if we can just get rid of Sather and Dolan.

  273. This is the begining of alot a moves. There was a rumor about Gomez,Rosy and Vally going to Atlanta for Kovalchuk,Exebly and Hedberg. Sorry if I miss spelled names. This was a rumor I heard early in the year when they were trying to sign Sundin. Also whats there record since that whole saga ended!!

  274. “Its a WHOLE new ball game. Now we will see what these players are made of with a No-nonsense coach behind the bench who holds ALL players accountable. :)”

    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO MORE EXCUSES!

    FOR SPAAARRRTAAA!

  275. TrueBlue
    February 23rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Ranger to the Rangers….sounds tacky. Like Satan being on the Devils…

    Classic!!!

    and…Pierre Macguirre is an ex-coach, ass-kissin, circumsized head know it all

  276. They need a big time goal scorer and they may have to part with a big time prospect or a pick to get them to Take one of these big contracts!!

  277. benney,

    yea I did support Renney the last few years, but the whole thing with Prucha really soured me on him. I mean when the players who work hard and try don’t get recognition (Pru, Korpy) and others who don’t seem to be working hard (Gomez, Redden, VOROS) are rewarded it is troublesome…

  278. Doodie Machetto on

    The compensation for the Lightning (just for you Carp):

    In exchange for Tortorella, the Rangers will have to convert their concessions to all chicken. Instead of hot dogs, chicken dogs. Instead of pretzels, chicken twists. Instead of beer, alcoholic chicken.

  279. Tampa Bay….you fired him, just say yes already!!

    I can see how this plays out….tampa is going to scream tampering, and the Rangers are going to have to give up something….ie $$ or a draft pick…for a fired coach

    again I say….SATHER, don’t f*ck this up!!!

  280. costanza – Girardi and Staal were also on the ice together for the first goal against.

    Who the hell is Steve Ludzik (the coach Torts replaced in Tampa)?

    I think I’ve read three “ding dong the witch is dead”s today on this blog.

  281. Carp…the link doesn’t work, but Torts basically says Avery is a selfish Ass!!

    Any word as to why the NHL office is getting involved in the release of Torts???

  282. if Torts is the new caoch can we nick name him Leonidis?

    Always screaming – jsut liek leonidis
    Always preaching team first – jsut like leonidis
    always holding everyone accountable to each other in battle, one man faisl, we all fail – jsut like Leonidis

    Torts – “THIS, IS, NEW YORK!!!”
    as he kicks SAther screaming into the bottomless pit underneath MSG

  283. yeah, yeah and Mike Commodore should be forced to wear #64..

    Jeez, Slats gave Naslund $4mil for two, no one would want him either .. there really is so little we can do by way of personnel.. oh, and Sather wouldnt do it if there was.

  284. thats a far better roster he had in tampa. drury and kalinin were in buffalo on a squad with a bevy of 20 goal scorers who have proven to be just as good in the wake of losing drury and briere. also in buffalo, kalinin was scratched by lindy ruff a few times so he didn’t exactly thrive.
    the canucks have not be a very good offensively for years even with naslund. they are very similar to the rangers in that they try to play to their goaltending strength.
    And redden is lost and will never be found. the best thing about this hiring for me is that tortorella might try to call up sauer or saguinetti and scratch redden in their favor.
    I do not think tortorella is a bad coach just not the right coach for the team.

  285. yeah, but Avery is in Hartford because Sather wanted him. and last time I checked, Sather makes the personnel decisions, not Torts.

    so, I would not rule out Avery just yet.

  286. ” Tampa Bay’s Vincent Lecavalier, who was benched by Tortorella for indifferent defensive play early in the 2003-04 season and feuded with the head coach for a spell, can certainly attest to that.

    The wondrous Lightning captain might also attest to the fact that the hard love played a major role in transforming him into one of the NHL’s greatest players.”

    WIN!

  287. That’s some “exclusive” the Post had about Tortorella about an hour after we had it here.

    Thanks, Doodie. Hopefully nobody’s getting slipped a mickey today. I can’t believe I’m saying mickey.

  288. I know that agravaine. I’m just saying that if he’s available, I expect sather to take him.

    besides, Torts has said worse things about a lot of the players he has coached, and to their face.

    so, I don’t put much stock into a quote knocking Avery.

    hell, Avery knows he’s selfish ass. he revels in it.

  289. I did not notice that Staal and Girardi were on for the first goal (Thx, Spder).. I always thgt they would be a good D-pair.. Staal is better on D (than I initally thgt) and Girardi better on O (than I initally tght)… why dont the Rangers carry 7 dmen now? esp with uncertainty around Mara? At least platoon Reitz to get another body familiar with the team…

  290. It’s a sad day. The day after the banner raising of Andy Bathgate and Harry Howell, Tom Renney as well as Perry Pearn are relieved of their duties, which is not their fault. The Rangers entered the season without a top scorer who is a legitimate threat, but the Rangers were in first place in the Eastern Conference for almost the entire first half of the season. Yes the Rangers have been in a bad slump, but it is not the coaching staff’s fault at all. The Rangers try to do too much. They pass instead of shoot. Whether it is on the powerplay or an oddman rush.

    How can the overtime loss against Toronto be blamed on Renney? The first Leafs goal by Mitchell, he was all alone in front. Staal was no where near him because he did not want to block Lundqvist’s view, but Staal should have been on the other side guarding Mitchell in front of the net. The second leafs goal, on 4 on 4, Drury tried to intercept a pass along the blueline, but missed that left White skate from the point all the way to the slot. How is that Renney’s fault? Both players knew that they made mistakes. The Rangers got a point out of the game thanks to a late goal by Rozsival. The Rangers did not lose in regulation.

    Over the years as the Rangers head coach I liked Renney more every day. He has a great hockey mind who can handle a big city like New York. Renney always has spoken wonderful in front of the cameras. Renney’s resume is great. I could type another page. It won’t be too long before Renney is back in the NHL. Best of luck Tom Renney.

    I have respect for Sather who turned the team around after the lockout, but three overpaid contracts is the most to blame. Gomez, Drury, and Redden are getting paid way too much. Fucking Gomez was paid $10 million in his first fucking year. Gomez has never had higher than 84 points in a season. I understand that he has great puck control, but every time he enters the offensive zone he doesn’t do anything. Lately, Gomez has picked his game up. Nice to see him smiling and also have an edge to his game. However, overall Gomez has been terrible. I don’t expect a lot of offense from Chris Drury because he is a defensive player, but still too much money. The Wade Redden signing is another head scratcher. Redden is not a powerplay quarterback Sather thought he would be.

    With the trouble the Rangers have had scoring goals and their poor powerplay, which should be blamed on Sather for signing the wrong players, the Rangers were in first place in the Eastern Conference for almost the entire first half and are still in a playoff position today. That says a lot for the coaching staff and players.

    Although the Rangers have been sliding in the playoff race they have a very good chance they will make it. The playoff race is close in both Conferences. The Blues have a chance and they are sitting last in the Western Conference.

    It’s a risky decision because the Ranger lockerroom is really close.

  291. yeah, the Ranger locker room is close all right. they are united in their dislike for Renney’s system.

  292. Salty I just highlight the entire post…

    # Salty February 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    does anyone know how to do that cool “boxed quote” thing on here? I know a few of you figured it out… staal wart?

  293. Salty
    February 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    “THE WAITING IS OVER!!!”

    ..and this one will last….until Wednesday night

  294. the first thing to do is to strip the “C” off of Drury, that other “nice guy”

    Leo Durocher had it right

  295. Someone a few posts back mentioned “tampering with Totorella.” I doubt it because NHL live reported earlier they learned Sather received permission last week to talk to John [Tortorella].

  296. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Pearn and Renny seen at local bar. Pearn say’s to Renny. “If they would have told us that we are the team that are suppose to score on the PP and not the oppenent we would still have our jobs right now”

  297. hey Carp. I think mgmt must read this blog, because they also canned Pearn, and they hired Torts instead of another Edm yes man

    all these things were called for on this blog.

    way to go, Ranger Report posters !!

  298. Agra, fair. Mara is not on IR, so holds a roster spot. I just have a feeling (I hope not) that he will miss add’l time (shlder injury not good for our most rugged d-man)… Reitz shldnt be play every night and redden shldnt be playing ANY nite

  299. # Zhervalev February 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Is it safe to assume that our 10-2-1 start was more of a Torts system?

    quote test

  300. # Salty February 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    1. Zhervalev February 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Is it safe to assume that our 10-2-1 start was more of a Torts system?

    quote test

    ;kljhgff test

  301. Ok, so let’s say that torts strips drury’s ‘C’….who gets it?

    I’d say give dubi an ‘A’ and give naslund the C

  302. costanza

    I agree I hope Mara can come back but I fear whtout surgery he will have a much more fragile game, and the physicality is what he bring to the game… I don’t knwo why they got reitz instead of bringing up potter… with redden we are just stuck… unless mara went on the ir we don’t have space for anyone else.

  303. FROM LYNN ZINSER’S (NY TIMES) BLOG TODAY:

    Personnel-wise, this team is a certifiable mess, with no consistent scoring and a defense prone to horrendous mistakes that often turn an excellent goalie, Henrik Lundqvist, into an arcade duck. They are saddled with long-term contracts with Redden, Gomez and Drury that give them little wiggle room to make changes.

    Hilariously, when this season’s moves were made, Sather said he made them so his team could play more like the Stanley Cup champion Red Wings. This team could not be further from those Red Wings, a team built of parts that fit together almost seamlessly. The Rangers are patched together with so much glue, they can hardly move.

    GOOD LUCK, MR. TORTORELLA!

  304. Hockeyman Rangers on

    I say, give Callahan the C he is the one that plays with the most passion. it won’t happen BUT……..

  305. not sure if this was mentioned yet, but here’s an update from Zipay:

    “Former Tampa coach and current TSN commentator John Tortorella has reached a multi-year agreement to succeed Tom Renney as head coach of the Rangers, we have been told by two people familiar with the issue. But he has time remaining on his contract with the Lightning, who fired him last June, and that club wants compensation. The league is helping to broker a deal…. “

  306. Betts had an a when Gomez was hurt… yea Mara and cally too!!

    btw

    The New York Rangers and John Tortorella have agreed on a multi-year contract BUT Tampa Bay is looking for some kind of compensation for letting Torts out of the remainder of his contract there.

    Rick and/or Jane

    have you seen anything about this??

    what kind of compensation are they looking for I mean, they fired him…

  307. Renney was inflexible and thats his undoing

    Bowman adapted ( hi flying habs and wings and then…left-wing lock trap system)

    Parcells adapted (from ’87 to ’91; No Simms, no morris, No Bavaro…let the offensive line key the 91 team)

    …long time fans; you think Arbour coached the 75 Isles (w/o Bossy and Trotts) the same way he coached in 80-81?

    and when I say adapted it simply means…”the same way I coached two years ago wont work anymore…swallow my pride and change”

    perimeter offense and defense my a**

  308. Fischler's Ghost on

    Kaspar,

    It’s been on the player’s all along. If Renney’s system was so bad why didn’t the “leaders” of the team meet with him and suggest a new direction. I think it’s easier for some of these guys to play mediocre hockey than put the effort in, it’s not like their base salaries are performance-based.

    I feel for Renney, he took the fall for Sather’s nonsense, but I’m hopeful we win 14 or 15 of the last 21 games and get some home ice for the playoffs.

  309. # Staal Wart February 23rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    1. Salty February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    staalwart how do you separate the quote from the response?

    I hope this worked

    Darnit

  310. # Staal Wart February 23rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    1. Staal Wart February 23rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    1. Salty February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    staalwart how do you separate the quote from the response?

    I hope this worked

    Darnit

    I don’t know

  311. First move by Torts is to kick Drury’s pansy ass.
    Second move by Torts is to strip Drury of the “C.”
    Third move by Torts is to give the “C” to Dubinsky.
    Fourth move by Torts is to tell Fats to get Anisimov, Parenteau, and a D or two up here,
    immediately.

  312. # Staal Wart February 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    1. Salty February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    staalwart how do you separate the quote from the response?

    how bout this?

    damn

  313. # Staal Wart February 23rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    1. Staal Wart February 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    1. Salty February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    staalwart how do you separate the quote from the response?

    how bout this?

    damn

    I still don’t know

  314. ..sounds likes a 4-5th rd draft pick to Tampa Bay.. probably end up being the next Mike Green.

    Cally isnt a “C” type.. just leave Dru with it.. Mara would be my second choice.. seems like he has a head to speak with the refs on the ice (as long as he gets back on the ice)

    JEEZ, the Flyers are going to end up with Boumeester.. that is going to annoy the heck out of me nxt week… and hate Redden even more!

  315. Fischler’s ghost;

    Now we are going to see wont we?

    …and I will have no problem admitting it…and whats great is I doubt Torts well let it fester either…you’ll see benchings and remarks in the papers too

    lets go!

  316. Doodie Machetto on

    I’ve told everyone the compensation already (twice):

    In exchange for Tortorella, the Rangers will have to convert their concessions to all chicken. Instead of hot dogs, chicken dogs. Instead of pretzels, chicken twists. Instead of beer, alcoholic chicken.

  317. Im gonna go on record and say that this is TOO drastic of a change for this group (with so many young guys, and Hank admitting he has never had a coach change and such), this season.

    The Rangers will be better for it next year and the seasons after that, but I really think this drastic change could confuse this group of players further and could completely backfire.

    I dont think we make the playoffs this season. But are GOLD from next year on.

    I have always backed Renney, and feel if this is what it took to get rid of Pearn then so be it, but Renney was one of the best Ranger coaches EVER !!!!

  318. Tampa is probably trying to get out of the contract they are currently paying Torts. “If he agrees to coach your club, he agrees to void the contract with ours.”

  319. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    too bad it’s not the islanders asking for compensation, we could say “we’ll sell out your arena when we come in”

  320. FYI – I have no source just guessing on the draft pick..

    ..although the chicken thing may work .. as long as they serve the alcoholic chicken in that super cool plastic mug with the pretzel rod in the handle!

  321. onecupin69years on

    The pity is that they had tort and let him go.. maybe they would have had more success and growth instead of stagnation.

    He’s got my vote. But sather’s got to go.

  322. It’s a damn tragedy that Renney got fired and Sather still has a job. Torts isn’t gonna be able to do anything more with this crew. Ownership really needs to get their heads out of their collective asses. Next Sather blockbusters Gomez for Gaborik and signing Forsberg in the offseason

  323. Rangers to tampa

    Ok…we’ll take Vinny off your hands too…and do that chicken thing Doodie keeps talking about

    screw tkachuk

  324. Punch Imlach: Your comment doesn’t make any sense because the effort has always been there. The Rangers also did not want Sundin because they did not want players to leave because everyone is really close. Though, it was impossible for him to come to New York due to the cap.

    Rob: How about you post points to back up your opinion?

  325. Dubinsky definitely should get a letter, because he has shown a willingness to speak out.

    they should just go with 3 young guys as alternate captains, and each month give one the “C”, and then in the middle of next season, determine who deserves it permanently.

    Dubi, Cally, and Staal could be the 3

    I think Dubi would win out eventually. more for his willingness to step up and speak out when needed.

    the other 2 have more introverted personalities.

    forget all vets. they have already proven they can’t do the job. or will not be here long

  326. zappy, I won’t even bother to respond at length to a Renney-lovin’ clueless post like you foisted on us at 3:19 pm

    it is a sad day when Renney lapdogs like you have any say in the direction of the Rangers.

  327. onecupin69years on

    I hope tort’s hair hasn’t turned gray .
    I hope he doesn’t wear granny glasses and chew gum.

    Any mention about his assistants?
    And why keep (RAT) Mike Pelino?

    To keep sather in the know!

  328. Mark (the orginal) on

    There is no definite time for the conference call because they need to get this compensation done with the Lightning first.

  329. Tortarella will get more out of Gomez and Drury in 20 games than Renney got out of them in two years…guaranteed

    Here is a short list of coaches who also did:

    Ftorek
    Robinson
    Lamioriello
    Burns
    Julien
    Hartley
    Ruff

    I know I forgot a couple…

    point is…what’ya think? they just forgot how to play when they saw Tom renny’s genius swollen head???

  330. onecupin69years on

    There isnt a renger who deserves to wear a C or an A, maybe Staal. Someone has to step up.

  331. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Punch Imlach February 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    hey Carp. I think mgmt must read this blog, because they also canned Pearn, and they hired Torts instead of another Edm yes man

    all these things were called for on this blog.

    way to go, Ranger Report posters !!””

    WOOOOOHOO!! We did it! My rant to Millian on his podcast may have helped, also!!

    Good job, guys!

  332. I Bleed Rangers Blue on

    Ain’t nobody taking the “C” from Drury. Not sure that Gomer and Naz deserve to keep their “A”‘s though. Not a bad idea to rotate amongst the deserving youngsters. I’d start with Cally for his efforts and Prucha for his perseverance, teamplay and all-around good-guy factor.

    Punch Imlach February 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Dubinsky definitely should get a letter, because he has shown a willingness to speak out.

    they should just go with 3 young guys as alternate captains, and each month give one the “C”, and then in the middle of next season, determine who deserves it permanently.

    Dubi, Cally, and Staal could be the 3

    I think Dubi would win out eventually. more for his willingness to step up and speak out when needed.

    the other 2 have more introverted personalities.

    forget all vets. they have already proven they can’t do the job. or will not be here long

  333. A new coach coming in 3/4 through the season and stripping the “C” off the captain is not the best way to integrate into a new enviroment and gain the respect of your soldiers.

    While I’m DEFINITELY not a Drury fan and feel the “C” is more burden then honor for him, I don’t think any coach would do that 3/4 through a season.

    If anything, he’ll wait until next year.

  334. The compensation to Tampa may be related to Torts payout after getting canned. There could be a trade here. And it ain’t for Vinny. Marty St. Louis will be the guy the Rangers get, if the Lightning need to shed a contract.

    As far as Avery is concerned, Torts may have to take him. But if Avery is serious about playing at MSG his tone will change. Torts is a bad man. HE can handle any and EVERY ego on this team.

    You watch. You are gonna see some serious ass kicking in the next few weeks.

  335. “I don’t get all this Prucha love. He really isn’t very good at all, but some of you think he is the savior. Get real”

    It’s not aboot thinking the kid is gonna lead this team in goals, and be what he was. The fact that he wasn’t playing was one of many reasons why Renney was such an idiot of a coach. He plays with energy, and that’s something the vets don’t play with. There was no reason to scratch him last night, and he did. He put in the useless Voros who immediately got PP time, which he didn’t deserve, and did nothing while on the PP. He just doesn’t know how to coach, and that’s why he’s without a job.

    It’s time for some tough god damn love. If you’re not gonna show up to play this game at an acceptable level, then in the wise words of our new coach, get the out !

    BTW – This news conference isn’t gonna be on TV is it ?

  336. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Joe in DE

    Yes, Mara SHOULD have a letter when he gets back. He’s rugged and all heart. True Ranger blue he is.

  337. onecupin69years on

    MRs Renney. “Oh hello Thomas, What! they What!”
    Tom -‘ Mommy they fired me!”
    Mrs, Renney
    ” oh Goodness ” have a glass of milk and peanut butter sandwich”

  338. 2 down and 4 to go.

    How do we get rid of Sather, Rosival, Redden and Kallin.

    How does Sather get to skate on this. He is the one who signed these guys to the most ridiculous salaries. The Rngers are goona feel the effects of these other 3 clowns on the cap for a long time to come. Reminds of what Isiah Thomas did to the Knicks. They still have not recovered.

    Please tell that there are more changes coming….

  339. Don’t forget that after the first pre-season win at MSG this fall, Dubinsky had to insist that the team do the stick salute to the fans — Drury and Gomez were skating off. For that smart business decision alone, Dubinsky showed more intelligence than the rest of the team “leadership”.

  340. Making Drury captain was a mistake, I agree. He is a leader but not the type to wear the C. He is too quiet. I watched him in High School here in Ct. and he was a leader on the ice, but giving the C takes a lot away from your game if you are not fit for it. Same thing happened to Leetchy when he got the C. I say give it to Mara. Mara has really stuck up for his team big time this year. He deserves it.

  341. Renney takes the fall for the over priced “talent” not producing on this team. Drury , Gomez and Naslund should turn in their letters for younger players with some future with the club. I say Girardi , Mara and Dubinsky. Young leadership for this team. Obviously the players with the letters now are not getting it done.
    Lundquist better be careful what he wishes for with wanting a new coach, Torts has a wonderful history with goalies.

  342. KC

    good point about Dubi
    I forgot about that

    millionaires dont care…he’s a couple of years away from that haughtiness

  343. Sorry Adam, that’s what I get for trying to type and listen to someone…I’m not multimodal today.

  344. “sounds likes a 4-5th rd draft pick to Tampa Bay.. probably end up being the next Mike Green.”

    Lol, that’s just the Rangers luck these days. We’ll probably lose out on Gretzky Jr. just to hire Torts.

    ANDY

    Exactly, he looks just like the Fonze, and i want a cool coach to coach these guys. Go Fonze !!

    I wonder what Dubi thinks aboot this, i think Torts coached him last summer, am i wrong ?

  345. I Bleed Rangers Blue on

    Staal Wart:

    LOL. A guy can think out loud here, right?

    No, he doesn’t deserve a letter but I do believe he deserves some kind of acknowledgment that he hasn’t been given a fair shake to date.

    Maybe give him a “B” for beer guy. Works on my HNA team.

  346. it’s a message that needs to be sent. you obviously can’t do it in a public way.

    you meet privately with the top vets, and explain to them that you want to start with a clean slate.

    tell them that you want to integrate some of the kids into the leadership of the team

    if they want to leave the rangers because of it, then so be it. a lot of fans want some of them to leave anyway.

  347. Burnside is doing a live chat over at ESPN.com right now. Lot of Rangers questions. Someone asked if Avery will return with Torts as coach.

    Burnside made a good point. Rangers lack an identity, not much cap room, and Sather has been working towards bringing Aves back. If he has been talking to Torts for a week or two as reported, its surely been part of the negotiations.

    My gut feeling is we see Avery come back. It might not last long, but I think Sather made it a condition of the hiring.

  348. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    Prucha with an “A” would be fitting. Aside from the way he plasys he and Lundqvist have been here the longest and the team looks up to him.

  349. A welcomed change for sure. I honestly don’t care if we make the playoffs this season. Lets just start the rebuilding process at the deadline. Hopefully Torts will recommend players to Sather and he will make some decent trades.

  350. To Tom, thanks for the memories while it lasted im sorry i just couldn’t take one more line change every 4 seconds from you anymore.

    To Perry, the powerplay was _______ (fill in the blank)

    Bring in Torts hopefully he can everything jump started the right way

  351. Mark (the orginal) on

    I’m sure Francesa is not going to put up the conference call, but maybe try 1050 since they are the radio home of the Rangers.

  352. “Don’t forget that after the first pre-season win at MSG this fall, Dubinsky had to insist that the team do the stick salute to the fans—Drury and Gomez were skating off. For that smart business decision alone, Dubinsky showed more intelligence than the rest of the team “leadership””

    Yeah, that pissed me off. Almost like they didn’t give a shit. They just wanted to hit the showers and count the money they made that day, well not made, i should say STOLE !! Those two suck !

    I agree with anyone who thinks Dru should get stripped. The Devs had no problem doing it with Eliasshole, and look at him now, finally realizes, there’s no use crying aboot it, just go out and play, and work hard and good things will fuggin happen, now he’s having a great year.

  353. PruBelongsOnTheIce
    February 23rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    Matteauonov February 23rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    LOL!!
    I expected that :P

    Well you got it! :)

  354. It’d be great if at the press conference Dolan whacks Sather the way Mark Wahlberg whacks Matt Damon’s character at the end of The Departed…unexpected, but appropriate…

  355. Why do I keep reading from local writers about how successful Renney was? In his career at least.

    Yes, I concede the Rangers were probably the biggest “success” he’s had in his career but at what professional level has he won a championship?

    The team’s problem goes beyond the coaching staff, this much I agree with. But the way some of the scribes are describing him it’s almost like they just fired Scotty Bowman.

  356. good point Orr about the debbies stripping Elias. and he was a debbie all along, not a multi-team mercenary who recently came on board like Drury.

  357. Man, we got a long way to go to reach 1000….unless carp only updates the post instead of making a new one….

  358. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    The Hyena is finally history!!!!!!!!!!!!! wooooooooooohooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooo!!!!!!It’s been a long two year wait for this day and now that it’s finally here I must admit it was worth the wait!

    To some of the still Renney drooling trolls who are posting crap like “they are a tight lockeroom” Yeah,a tight lockeroom that’s headed for a long round of golf in april had the hyena remained as coach.

    If Torts is the coach,no doubt he has a big challenge in front of him.The roster is deeply flawed in several areas,especially defense.There is a lack of a physical presence and a lack of a puck moving dman on the backline.

    Although I agree that there is not enough scoring on the roster,I also believe Renney’s stifling “system” was killling any creativity from the forwards.That being said,they had more offensive upside type players last year and still the offense was near the bottom of the league.That proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Renney was and is a horrible coach and needed to be replaced.

  359. On this special day..I will admit for the first time that I am not actually Kaspar.

    I am Karpotsev

  360. Any one have any idea who the assistant will be? Hope he is a power play specialist! We need one bad

  361. =================================================
    UpstateRanger February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    FROM LYNN ZINSER’S (NY TIMES) BLOG TODAY:

    Personnel-wise, this team is a certifiable mess, with no consistent scoring and a defense prone to horrendous mistakes that often turn an excellent goalie, Henrik Lundqvist, into an arcade duck. They are saddled with long-term contracts with Redden, Gomez and Drury that give them little wiggle room to make changes.

    Hilariously, when this season’s moves were made, Sather said he made them so his team could play more like the Stanley Cup champion Red Wings. This team could not be further from those Red Wings, a team built of parts that fit together almost seamlessly. The Rangers are patched together with so much glue, they can hardly move.

    GOOD LUCK, MR. TORTORELLA!
    ==================================================

    Lynn:

    Yes, Sather needs to go as well.. but…

    That sub-par glue you speak of was Tommy Boy Renney. Tortorella should bring some quality glue to the mix.

    Renney is the guy who will need good luck to ever get another head coaching job.

    Good Riddance!

  362. ZzZz 13 ZzZz Rules !! says Greg L. on

    Ding Dong The wicked Renney is gone !!! Yeah and that sick excuse for a coach Perry pern , come on this move was a no-brainer and If Messier makes it some where behind the bench WE ARE IN BIZNESS !!!

    Big shake up and I bet Petr Prucha is pritty happy . Renney lost this team and I think Gomez and Drury feel pritty dam bad they helped axe thier coach.

    Did anyone one see Renneys face when the Rangers tied it up late in the 3rd period? He did not look happy at all!!!?? Shoey was pritty happy and cheered and looked at Renney and then he looked away …I thought what the hell why wouldn’t Renney be cheering or at least ,pump his fist or something. It was because Tom Renney knew he was fired and they told him that was his last game , win or lose.

  363. who cares if they lose all the rest of the games and miss the PO’s…they’ll have a decent coach next year and a great draft pick, and maybe Sather won’t be around to screw it up…think long term people

  364. I Bleed Rangers Blue on

    OK, boys. Enough of this jumping on Renney’s grave stuff. Time for us all to move on and look to the future.

  365. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Lynn Zinzer has no clue how good or bad this team was because Renney had no idea what to do with them and never held them accountable.

    We’ll see what they are made of now because we have a no-nonsense coach that will shake these fat cats up. It’s about time! Halleluluah! <No idea how to spell that.

  366. The Rangers must be sellers not buyers next week.
    Whether they retire Slats or not … here is a plan for our team.
    Try to dump as many of the current roster players except(the 7 most of us would agree on) for Drafts picks, prospects, buckets of beer or anything else we can get for them.

    Bring up the 3 to 5 players close to being ready from Hartford. Next year bring up the prospects from junior Del Zotto and Gravchev and let them learn at the Nhl level.
    Enough of signing over priced free agents that prohibit the development of our young players. I.E. Voros vs Prucha.
    Get Avery yes get Avery.
    At worst, we see what our young guys can do or get a top draft pick (see Washington trading Jagr and getting Ovechkin as a result. At best, we develop a team that is home grown and shows pride in being a NY Ranger i.e. Reddden et al .

  367. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    I want Sather to announce that Messier will be his assistant GM.

    Carp,

    any word on what’s going on with the Tampa situation?

  368. 5 more wins this season and no playoffs. Torts is not the answer and Renney was not the problem. This offseason is gonna bitter for a ton of Rangers fans

  369. MESSIER SHOULD NOT BE COACH.
    HE WILL CRY ALL THE TIME AND HE WILL BE JUST LIKE GRETZKY IN PHX.

  370. Some of you need to wake up… stop adding to Renney’s rap-sheet the fact that “he didn’t hold the players accountable” over…and over… and over… Yes there are different ways to deal with players on a personal level… and yes Renney maybe needed to treat some of the players a little differently, but why do so many of you think that the players shouldn’t have held themselves accoutable??

    That is killing me! These players as a group do not have moxy or fire… and a recipricating personality behind the bench might as a spark… but it won’t fuel these players fires…

    …and a run-and-gun offense isn’t going to translate into these Rangers all of a sudden lighting the lamp on a game-to-game basis… they don’t have it in them!

    I want Tortorella to succeed… and I want all the players that wear these colors to succeed… I just can’t see how Tortorella gets these ducks to stop quacking and stop barking!

    @@

  371. Kaspar
    February 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
    Salty
    February 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    “THE WAITING IS OVER!!!”
    ..and this one will last….until Wednesday night

  372. i cant do it

    Punch Imlach
    February 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
    yeah, the Ranger locker room is close all right. they are united in their dislike for Renney’s system.

  373. HAAAAAAALELLUJIAH
    HAAAAAAALELLUJIAH
    HALLELUJIAH
    HALLELUJIAH
    HA-LAYYYYYLUYAHHHHHHHHHH

    WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO

    this is almost as good as winning a cup.

  374. Punch Imlach: I guess all the hockey experts, for example on TSN and MSG, are also clueless as well as Sather who stated that this is not all Renney’s fault and that everyone should be held responsible. Only reason why Renney and Perry were let go is because it is much easier to change the front office during the season than the entire roster.

  375. Ya know, Torts will be good I think…But the Rangers played well under Renny for a while there…I think the real issue is players. I might be wrong, but Redden, as much as I am not a fan, may not be that noticable if our so-called captain didn’t suck soooooo bad. This guy is aweful and should be sent to the minors. I’d rather see a guy like Callahan with the C on his chest any day. There is a guy with some guts. Players have to be accountable. For years the Rangers had freaking Malik on the blue line. What the hell are they thinking??? Now we have to sit and watch as a captain of the greatest team in America is totally unable to motivate his teammates. This blows. But again…I could easily be wrong.

    SATHER SUCKS

  376. By the way…Why does everyone on here think that Messier can coach? He was a great leader and player, but that has nothing to do with coaching. I think if it were going to happen, it would have a long time ago.

  377. gregoryNYR: Messier wanted to take time off after his retirement, which is why he has not had any role in the NHL, but he is ready and wants to resume his hockey career.

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