Blueshirts vs. Blues (updated)

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Some thoughts before the Rangers meet JD’s Blues in St. Louis tonight.

1) This is another tough one-day trip, the Rangers’ third of this streak — a three-hour flight for one game, and then right back home again. Game was moved up to 6 p.m. local time, so it will begin at 7 p.m. here, probably for Versus.

2) Imagine if they don’t beat the Blues and Islanders back to back the next three nights? Actually, it’s not hard to imagine … but it will be really ugly at MSG Wednesday.

3) There are games in this streak in which I thought the Rangers had a level of “battle” — in Boston, in New Jersey, in Florida, in the only win, against Washington. Then there are those games in which they just looked a little flat — Atlanta at home, you could also argue Boston.

But there were also games where “quit” would not be too strong a word to use on a good portion of the roster, and I thought yesterday was one of those, along with Dallas.

It was game in which the top, and usual, suspects just looked as if they were out for a skate in Central Park. Scott Gomez? Hello. Not only is he playing poorly, but he seems to be avoiding contact. Chris Drury?

4) It’s also unfair to paint everybody with the “quit” brush. I thought some guys competed and tried really hard against the Flyers — who, by the way, are not a very physical team anymore. Again, though, it was the usual suspects in the “effort” department, too: the Callahans, the Maras.

5) Even when they try to do something positive it turns out negative, and there was no greater example than Mara fighting Arron Asham, trying to make a statement, or trying to play to the buzzer, or whatever he was trying to do. Then he hurts his right shoulder, and from the immediate looks of it, it could be serious. We’ll know more in a day or two, probably.

After the game, Mara sought out Asham to thank him for stopping the fight once he realized Mara was hurt. There is honor among some of these guys, bless their courageous hearts.

6) In past regimes, “Fire Renney” and “Fire Sather” might have had a greater impact than it does now. Why? Because Jim Dolan isn’t about to be swayed by a chant, and neither is Sather. And because, let’s be honest, those chants were feint, not the kind that rocked the place for “Fire Muckler” and “Fire Campbell.” Anyway, I really doubt that fan dissatisfaction even registers with these untouchable guys who run the team.

But I wrote today that something needs to happen. Here is my column from The Journal News and LoHud.com today.

Maybe the number of kids in the stands at the matinee game, and the number of diehards who probably sold their seats to fake-fans or Flyers fans kept the volume of the chants down.

7) The power play really, really stinks. I mean it is God-awful. I mean, I have to go to the Thesaurus to try to find a word that accurately describes the foul odor it emits. And I still can’t, except in my Roget’s II it uses an example for “a foul odor”: This shrimp smells. To compare the Rangers power play to shrimp would be unfair to the shrimp. You almost have to try to be this bad.

I’ll probably update here later. See ya.

(ed. note: I previously had written that it’s a 7:30 start tonight. The NHL lists it at 7 p.m. Sorry).

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JUST WANT TO PASS THIS ALONG:

A couple of commentors mentioned Rangers trainer Jim Ramsay.

I forgot to write that he was one of yesterday’s heroes. Somebody behind the bench took a puck to the head— I’ve been told it was a young kid — and Ramsay actually left the Rangers bench and ran into the stands to tend to the injured kid until the EMS got there. Wow!

This guy is a perennial all-star, and as much or more than anybody in the organization, deserves to see the day when the Rangers win another Cup.

Great work, Rammer!

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AFTERNOON UPDATE:

Nothing major: Rangers had an optional skate this morning in St. Louis, did not call up a defenseman to replace injured Paul Mara (right shoulder). No update on Mara’s condition.

So Kalinin goes in as the Rangers have only six defensemen; nobody called up from Hartford, but I’m guessing that will change by practice time tomorrow. Sounds like Prucha gets another shot tonight and Voros sits again. Lundqvist in goal.

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  1. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Good post and I like the Mara part. He is one of the honorable players in the game.

  2. Mara is done. I had the same thing happen to me as many other hockey players have- he most likely tore his labrum. Which will be a long long road to recovery. I forgot the rangers were on tonight, thats how bad they’ve been. I have tickets for the game on wednesday and I have no desire to go.

    Mara is done for the season, id be willing to bet something on that. We’re screwed.

  3. onecupin67years on

    There is no easy fix ,except for the players to turn it on and win.
    Highly unlikely, and then how far into the playoffs do they go?
    But even if Dolan fires Sather and Renney, the cap impedes the next Gm and coach for years.

  4. Yeah, Redden Gomez and Drury are contracts we’re going to have to sit on and deal with for way too many years to come.

  5. “This shrimp smells. To compare the Rangers power play to shrimp would be unfair to the shrimp. You almost have to try to be this bad.”

    Absolutely classic, Carp. I loved Sam, but your open frankness about how bad the team is and your complete lack of fear of repercussions (as if they’re going to ban you from the media for speaking the truth) are refreshing and welcomed to say the least.

  6. MAra is a huge loss and I Agree with Scott Kay, that type of injury, if it is what he has done, will mean he sint playing until next season.

    Carp did you notice how on the Rangers site, they dont even have anything up on yesterdays game or loss? pretty funny, actually pretty embarassing. SAthers work im sure.

    Any word on who made the trip to St Louis as far as D men are concerned? I assume Kalinen will be back in right? Kind of has to be in, there is no one else.

    ANY CHANCE AT ALL that Redden sits tonight? Please? I know its not happenign but we all can dream right?

    Staal-Rosi
    Girardi-Redden
    Reitz-Kalinen
    6 dmen? whose the call up?

    And if you get any word, who is even in the lineup tonight?
    Prucha banished again?

    And do you think if we lsoe tnight Renney is gone before Wed game or after we lsoe to the last place Islanders?

  7. PS

    Prucha in a game, and he gets another point on an assist.

    So that does that tell Renney that the kid, at least over Voros, is a more potent scorer than the big tree that falls hard who cant skate fight or score?

    I would not be shocked in the least to see PRucha scrathed again, but the kid is at least getting his trade value up for when it happens.

    Maybe the next coach will be smart and actually put him on one of the top two lines

  8. “…the Callahans, the Maras.”

    How many of each of these players to we have on the team. They have ONE beastly defenseman and one kid from Rochester who plays like he’s 6-4, 230.

  9. Rick, maybe the word “acrid” describes this team.

    acrid |?akrid|
    adjective
    having an irritatingly strong and unpleasant taste or smell : acrid fumes.

    hahah!

  10. Mara, Callahan, Dubinski, Prucha and Hank, the only players who should be wearing Ranger sweaters…everyone else should wear pink jerseys.
    This team is an absolute embarrassment!

    Carp, I love your comments on the team…you are doing an awesome job and I like how you tell it like it is.

    I can’t believe I have to watch this game tonight…
    F Dolan
    F Sather
    Fire Renney

  11. Ryan Callahan stepped in to Brandon Dubinsky’s role. For some reason, NHL.com does not count hits in the stats category, which i believe to be something crazy. Hits and blocked shots matter the world, and i’d like to know how many hits Dubi has last season compared to this season. Dubinsky isnt the hitting machine he was before.

    I VIVIDLY! remember all the rave about him being the biggest hitting rookie in the league. What happened? The beginning of this year was amazing, he was flying out there. What’s happened since October? It’s the same group of guys, but Redden scored twice in the first 3 games and made us all think, “Wow, what a great signing!”

    and Voros! Voros with the amazing tips out of nowhere, im just curious, where did that go?

    It seems like the Rangers have had their confidence kicked in the balls- collectively. They need to pick themselves up and watch out cause if Avery enters the room it’s gonna be a new game

  12. and i’ll be the first to take a crap on Sather for not picking up a guy like Aaron Asham for some size and class. He stopped fighting when Mara said something was wrong?

    There is JUSTICE in this world, it just doesnt happen under our system. We’ll have to wait for another fluke gm/coach combo to satisfy Dolan. I honestly dont think this team can be good until he is DEAD. Remember Wirtz in Chicago? Yeah. he died, and they got good.

    Not every death is so sad. Dolan is all of our problems. He wont leave. He wouldnt even fire isaiah thomas. Says a lot.

  13. Weird though…
    We needed to lose salary to bring back Avery.
    If Mara’s put on the long term IR… does it clear the way?

    Oh and by the way… I hate Wade Redden.

  14. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Scott Kay

    I hope you are wrong. Mara has been solid for us this year so far. They really won’t know how bad the injury is until the swelling goes down so we shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

  15. Carp,
    This powerplay is statistically the worst powerplay since at least 1967-68 (the media guide only goes back that far). Since I’m sure you probably have the media guide, check out page 340 for year-by-year PP%. The lowest is 14.3% in 03-04. Right now this team is at 13.8%.

  16. Carp!
    Great article and to echo the others sentiments, I really enjoyed the frankness of your approach and and directness of your comments here. Refreshing indeed. I would imagine you’ll be next in line for JR’s job at MSG.

  17. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    The fans that have already paid for their tickets at MSG should show up with paper bags over their heads. That, and don’t renew seasons. Boycott merchandise also.

  18. “Forcrissakes,playPrucha!”

    Trust me my man, i know my own injury when i see’s it. I knew immediately when i popped my shoulder out that something was wrong, and if it was so swollen that means it had never popped out before. I’m pretty loosely ligamented so i could always pop my shoulders around, but this seems really bad for Mr. Mara.

    Dont jump to conclusions by any means but telling somebody to outright stop a fight to their face being like “i cant throw this anymore” is totally different. I lost an edge one day in practice and turned around funny and threw my shoulder out, and that was it.

    I think that at VERY best the shoulder slipped out and in, in which case i do know how painful that is, and did cause me swelling. The bad news all around is once it happens once it’s bound to happen again and again.

    Surgery is really the only way to go when youre an athlete as his level, esp his age. He has no time to waste.

  19. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Carp- I know I’ve said this before but,your candid and frank comments are refreshing and needed to give us fans a voice in how our beloved team is being destroyed by a an enabiling owner senile G.M. and his incompetant coach.

    Thanks again for your great work!

  20. Oh god, yeah. I watched the video just now, i fell asleep during the game. He was immediately clutching his arm.

    This sucks. Mara has been one of the best guys all around this year. A great guy, took a pay CUT to come here and play for broadway. A true ranger. It hurts to see the video, because everyone thinks injuries have to be super outstanding and crazy to hurt bad.

    That one hurt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHRPldpdg4

  21. Tom Renney’s “system” has certainly been a big part of this team’s downfall and the fact that year after year, he can’t manage even an average powerplay shows that he is not a good head coach. Couple that with his mishandling of players like Prucha and his refusal to hold veterans accountable and he has to be fired. There is no doubt he has lost at least some of the team.

    Unfortunately, the next problem with be the incompetence that Sather has shown ever since he came here. His choice of coaches is always a “yes man”. He won’t bring in Tortorella or Nolan or any of the top guys out there who will kick this team in the butt. He will bring in someone who will keep business as usual.

    We, as long time Rangers fans, are screwed. As long as Daddy Dolan lets Junior Dolan run this team and as long as Junior keeps his man-crush on Sather, this franchise is going nowhere but down.

    Sad

  22. Pens just fired their coach. Wish the Rangers would fire Pearn just to have someone breathe down Renney’s back a bit. Maybe hold some VETERANS ACCOUNTABLE perhaps?

    I love Mara but jeez don’t be a dummy and fight when you’re hurt in a game that was lost from the second the first puck dropped.

    Sorry for complaining. GO RANGERS!

  23. Rick,

    Has you or one of your colleagues done a story on the fact that MSG is prohibiting DirecTV from showing HD Rangers games to out of market subscribers through the Center Ice package?

    The Rangers have a lot of fans across the country, and if the current on-ice product wasn’t a big enough slap in the face to them, to do this was pretty low.

    I’d like to know why MSG/Cablevision/Jim Dolan is doing this, and when it’s going to stop.

  24. Callahan is seventh in the league with 181 hits this year and Dubinsky is ninth with 158. Girardi is in at 14 with 143.

    The problem with hit statistics is that they vary from arena to arena. I suppose it all evens up.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20092ALLAASAll&sort=hits&viewName=rtssPlayerStats

    I think Sather should bite the bullet on Avery’s salary and see if Dallas would take Redden and a forward for him and maybe Daley. Unless Redden steps into a phone booth, and there aren’t any anymore, and emerges as superman, there’s going to be a buyout at some point, and if Avery has to be bought out it will be cheaper.

  25. “I think Sather should bite the bullet on Avery’s salary and see if Dallas would take Redden and a forward for him and maybe Daley. Unless Redden steps into a phone booth, and there aren’t any anymore, and emerges as superman, there’s going to be a buyout at some point, and if Avery has to be bought out it will be cheaper.”

    I would LOVE some of that crack you are smoking! Where are you buying it!?!?!? hahahahahaha.

    Kidding. But really? A team TAKE Wade Redden? and GIVE trevor DALEY?!?!!?!

    Trevor Daley is a blossoming young star dude. that’s like saying we should trade staal and mara for alexei kovalev

  26. Renney should be replaced, for the PP alone. But, let’s face it, the day after he’s gone this team still stinks. They have no really good players. Drury and Gomez have been revealed (and, trust me, I hate to admit all the people being negative when they were signed were right). They’re role players, not on-ice leaders or offensive catalysts.

  27. “Renney should be replaced, for the PP alone. But, let’s face it, the day after he’s gone this team still stinks. They have no really good players. Drury and Gomez have been revealed (and, trust me, I hate to admit all the people being negative when they were signed were right). They’re role players, not on-ice leaders or offensive catalysts.”

    There is a COACH for the power-play, my good sir. His name is Perry Pearn. He talks a lot after the periods about how much the Rangers powerplay didnt do what he told them to do. Point fingers in his direction if the PP is your lament.

  28. and for the record having Drury and Gomez on the same line is pretty absurd. has there been a moment this season when either of them is not struggling/snake bitten?

  29. onecupin67years on

    What’s with sather and the cell phone, all he needs is a giant SUV and he’s a “house frau”

  30. Scott Kay
    February 16th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    “We’ll have to wait for another fluke gm/coach combo to satisfy Dolan. I honestly dont think this team can be good until he is DEAD.
    Not every death is so sad. Dolan is all of our problems. He wont leave.

    Great post Scott. Unfortunately, Dolan probably spread his retarted seed so if goes, his moron son will be the next “know everything about everything” owner.

  31. You know, I went to the same exact sleep away camp as his son did, and Dolan had the nerve to land his helicopter on the baseball field- in the middle of a game, to pick up his son to go on a sailing trip for the weekend.

    Says a lot about the Dolans. Great people, truly. :(

  32. Carpy,

    Is it possible to do an article on the following:

    A few months prior to the season began, it was officially announced that MSG was staying put at its current location. Furthermore, MSG management decided it was their decision to go ahead and do a major renovation to the existing Madison Square Garden…which will cost a great deal of money.

    With that being said, and knowing the Rangers are on a downward spiral, and the Knicks, also, who will not sniff the playoffs for many years as well….

    So basically I am asking is how will the current status of the NY Rangers, their high priced contracts, and horrible team management, will effect the transition towards the future of the team and its building.

  33. The power play is simply pathetic and embarrassing to watch

    When a team is on the PP and they only just setup for one shot with 14 seconds left of a full 2:00 power play, pathetic is the only word that can describe it.

  34. Anyone else getting tired of these “fire so and so” chants whenever the fans don’t like a losing streak? How about a “fire these fans” chant? People compare the Pens and say how they have all these great players. Hello, they were LAST for years to draft number 1. This city would NEVER let this team be that bad. They have to always try and compete in this city. This is just fact.

    I’ll give you an example. The Knicks are trying to rebuild. They really do lack star power at this point. So what happens? They lose, even though they are competing as hard as they can. And the fans STILL boo.

    Point is, people here are spoiled and need to understand that losing streaks happen. Apparantely making the playoffs 3 years in a row isn’t good enough for some now.

  35. Jeff

    I too watch the games on Directv and had noticed lately that when it wasn’t on MSG (which I also pay extra for) the Center Ice channels didn’t have MSG HD. I didn’t realize that was MSG’s decision. Actually I think it pretty foolish on their part because many of the teams they play are still telecasting the game in HD. So I just switch to theirs and watch it in HD with their coverage. THe only one losing there is MSG’s advertisers because of the audiance loss. And depending on who the opposing teams announcers are, often it’s a refreshing change to hear a different perspective.

  36. “So basically I am asking is how will the current status of the NY Rangers, their high priced contracts, and horrible team management, will effect the transition towards the future of the team and its building.”

    Sorry for answering this, i’m not Carp, obviously. But wouldnt one be able to answer that question by themselves? Having 21 million dollars or so locked up in 3 mediocre players does absolute critical damage to the team building for years and years to come. How are we going to get away with all of these stupid signings? We arent. Last time we did it, it took us years and years of rebuilding to do what? To get swept, Get to the 2nd round and get a TASTE of what true playoffs are like, and get to the 2nd round and be PUMMELED by a FORCEFUL Penguins team.

    Sather hit the panic button and said sign sign sign sign. Whats so weird about the fact that we didnt buy any stupidly high priced free agents before 07 and the fact that we had SUCCESS in 07? That one goal Drury scored could have changed the entire hopes of this team!

    We let MATT CULLEN go, who said he was so terrible? At least he was cheap! AT LEAST HE WAS TRADABLE! The guys we have now are NOT! MOVING! unless they are BOUGHT! OUT!

    NOBODY WANTS HUGE CONTRACTS WHEN THE ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING.

    THE DOLANS HAVE MONEY
    THE STEINBRENNERS HAVE MONEY

    HOWS YOUR MONEY?

    Sorry, i get carried away. Im sick of watching crappy rangers hockey. I could build this team better than this management. Our time has run out. Rangers are just floundering at this point.

  37. Chris, the NY Rangers have one Stanley Cup in 68 years. The Knicks haven’t one a championship since I am alive and I am in my mid 30s…..We as fans have spent countless amount of dollars and time rooting for these teams. I would say that booing is the best case scenario for what has transpired over the years…

    Fans not showing up for the games would be even better….Why show up when the team we root for does not show up?

  38. Chris, while I agree that there’s too much bitching going on, please don’t say Rangers fans are spoiled. 3 trips to the finals and 1 cup in my 42 years, certainly, there isn’t a whole lot of pay off for being a fan.

    Making the playoffs isn’t good enough, the goal is to hoist the cup, anything else is failure.

  39. Chris:

    A lot of people have been wanting Renney and his lame system of never holding anyone who gets paid more than $4 million accountable. It’s pathetic. Have you watched more than 20 games this season?

  40. Chris,

    When you make the playoffs 3 years in a row, and obviously are missing key pieces that can be determined easily, then shift the entire focus of the team, it’s deemed to be a big problem.

    We got to the 2nd round last year and then said OK we’ll rebuilddddd NOW! We’ll let all our guys go that we’ve been working with the past few years and we’ll try to get further in the playoffs with a bunch of random new guys like the flyers did, but the flyers actually have a GM that cares.

  41. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    If they refuse to fire Renney, they should at LEAST bring in Mess as his assistant. I’d be all for that one hundred percent.

  42. THe last team this team needed was to pass on a guy like Shanahan and slap him RIGHT across the face because we have superstar guys like gomez and drury. Even friggin NASLUND has been better. I could have swore that the days of signing old guys was over, we signed Redden and Naslund? Why?

    Because we have to sign SOMEBODY. We’re the rangers. Fan pressure. And Sather cant deal with it. Let him goooooooooooooooo

  43. Carp
    Great post and great story…

    Yesterday was a watershed moment in Ranger history; if there is no change coming then….well…
    there’s really nothin left to say

  44. Give Staal an "A" on

    Here are five examples of poor coaching on Renney’s part:

    1) Way too many men on the ice penalties this year.
    2) The power play.
    3) Players out of position (Dawes yesterday is an example)
    4) Renney will bench Zherdev for poor play but not Drury, Gomez, or Redden.
    5) Playing Voros over anyone is a joke. The Prucha situation stinks.

    I agree that Sather has made a mess of this team but it is time to fire Renney and his staff. He has lost this team; which was easy to see in the past few games.

  45. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “”Chris February 16th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Anyone else getting tired of these “fire so and so” chants whenever the fans don’t like a losing streak? How about a “fire these fans” chant? People compare the Pens and say how they have all these great players. Hello, they were LAST for years to draft number 1. This city would NEVER let this team be that bad. They have to always try and compete in this city. This is just fact.

    I’ll give you an example. The Knicks are trying to rebuild. They really do lack star power at this point. So what happens? They lose, even though they are competing as hard as they can. And the fans STILL boo.

    Point is, people here are spoiled and need to understand that losing streaks happen. Apparantely making the playoffs 3 years in a row isn’t good enough for some now.””

    This is way more than just your average losing streak. This team is dead in the water. Playing like they don’t even care, not even competing. THAT’S the problem.

  46. I heard the rangers lead the league in hits….

    Missed the last 2 games tivo’s yesterdays materpiece and watched bits and pieces of it..

    Redden just flat out sucks.. Gomez competed… Wow they missed Voros I am sure Bowman will put back in Voros tonight!!!No way is he that stupid, is he?

    The power play is a 4 year disater and Renny refuses to give the young guys a chance….They better call up a 7th d man…

  47. Here are 5 reasons why the NY Rangers won’t win a Cup in the next 5 years.

    1) Ownership, self explanatory
    2) General Management, self explanatory
    3) Terrible, hideous, morose signings that will BURY us, even if they are all bought out.
    4) Terrible, hideous, morose drafting. Do you all know we picked Al Montoya and Korpedo before Mike Green (SAME DRAFT YEAR). Do you know that Hugh Jessiman is the ONLY 1st rounder out of the 03 draft not to play a single NHL F***ING GAME?!?! Its infuriating! This team could have Dustin Brown and Mike Green (Brown and Green…haha) playing REAL hockey. Yet, what happens.
    5) Money- NONE LEFT! Where do the signings go when guys like Marc Staal are up for a pay raise? Brandon Dubinsky? Ryan Callahan? Where are we getting money from?

  48. Give Staal an A

    Good post. And horrors like the Dawes over-play has been going on all year. This team is horrible in its own end when without the puck. And that is 1000% on the coaching they receive.

    Same deal with the way the defense plays 2-on-1s — almost every time they attack the puck carrier rather than cutting off the pass. Again, my old coach would blow his whistle and stop practice for ten minutes if he saw either type of error. That’s how fundamental these issues are, and Renny has completely sh!t the bed in adressing them.

  49. Fact — the NYR power play in 2005-06 and 2006-07 was 8th in the league. Last year, it was 22nd and currently is 28th in the league. This directly corresponds to the arrival of Drury and Gomez (and departure of Nylander). So to correct everyone who says the power play has always been awful, that is not the case. The last two years have been bad, Renney wouldn’t let Jagr run it last year (insisted on splitting the PP into two groups so Drury and Gomez could play), and it completely deteriorated. 8th in the league for 2 years, and now it’s at the bottom! Renney, Gomez and Drury are obviously to blame — and Sather for ruining the strong offense he had in the first place.

  50. Jsut a thoguht after reading some stuff on Therrien being fired.

    Imagine if we lose tonight and Wed, and Renney gets fired along with the entire staff.

    Then Sather goes out and hires THERRIEN for the rest of the season? Thoughts?

    I have to admit I never liked the guy when he was the coach of Shittsburgh, but maybe his no nonsense, accountability would wake this team out of apathy?

    Jsut a thoguht, lets get Renney out of here first then see who gets the coaching nod.

    And also, asit been sidetracked by Renney firing talk, CARP, are there ANY RUMORS that Sather is trying to trade or land some new players? Anything?

    I mean unless he’s already decied to jsut play wiht what we have for the rest of the season and go down with the ship, but we are talking abotu Sather, and he never admits he’s worng.

    What a piece o Sh@t he is

  51. LOL it would be funny if Therrien didn’t want the job…who would want to coach this bunch…

  52. Noah
    February 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
    Anyone else keep refreshing the blog hoping to see “RENNEY FIRED” as a new entry?

    Only every five minutes

  53. John Tortarella is the man for the NY Rangers coaching job. Renney is a great scout, but a bad implementer of his scouting . In a Tortarella regime, it would be easy to assume the team would be more fired up every night and play with a better attack style.

  54. A couple of you guys mentioned Jim Ramsay.

    I forgot to write that he was one of yesterday’s heroes. Somebody behind the bench took a puck to the head — it might have been a kid, I couldn’t see, but somebody said it was a kid — and Ramsay actually left the Rangers bench and ran into the stands to tend to the injured person until the EMS got there. Wow!

    This guy is a perennial all-star, and as much or more than anybody in the organization, deserves to see the day when the Rangers win another Cup.

    Great work, Rammer!

  55. Carp, both the posting and the article were great reads. I have not looked at the record of the Senators since the coaching change but I keep noticing they are winning. Let’s see how the Pens fair with the coaching change.

    I agree something needs to happen. I think the only major shakeup would be to change the coach, Avery is not the answer. I wish he was but I don’t think it will be that simple.

  56. Chris –

    Is your last name Dolan or Sather?

    Seriously, the Knicks may still get booed but the NY public in general is much more tolerant of them than in years past because they A. Have a plan that will most likely eventually result in elite talent playing here and are gearing up for that by dumping unwanted salary, 2. Have a coach who is able to keep a skeleton crew of a team at least halfway competitive at times, 3. They don’t pretend they are title contenders but acknowledge they are rebuilding and take the necessary steps, 4. They actually walk the walk by having a coach who holds players accountable, decides he wants no part of their highest paid player and so essentially dumps him, and tries to develop some sort of a system. The team may stink now but I think there are alot of Knicks fans who are much happier now than they were a year ago because there is light at the end of the tunnel.

    The Rangers, on the other hand, have no plan. They have drafted miserably for years with only 2 elite level players to show for 7 years of misery and one of those (Hank) was pure luck. The team came close to having some modicum of success in the playoffs 2 years ago and then chose to turn over half the roster anyway rather than address the team’s weaknesses (they needed ONE second line center to complement Nylander and 1-2 defensemen). Then this summer, after a season in which they pretty much accomplished the same thing, instead of building on that success they blew the whole thing up and strapped the team with yet more obscene contracts that could keep them from competing for years to come. We won’t tolerate losing? Really? Funny but the Garden still looks completely sold out every year to me and for 7 long years the team was absolutely putrid. If our front office had been even stupid and not completely moronic a foundation of good young players could have been built during that time. 29 of 30 players in round one of the 2003 draft made it to the NHL. That means Sather had a 1 in 30 chance of picking someone who would never contribute – and he did!!

    Yeah, we’re fans, and we pay a lot of money to watch this team play night in and night out. So yeah, when I see them putting forth no effort and the ability for them to grow, mature and evolve into a great team does not exist, yes, I want people fired for it.

  57. Rick,

    I was at the game. It was a little kid who got hit with the deflected puck. He couldn’t have been older than 5 years old. There was an eerie silence during the commercial break, with many Flyers and Rangers looking on with much concern. After several minutes, the kid was seen walking down the stairs of the lower level with I assume his dad and received probably the loudest ovation of the night. I assume he was going into the Rangers lockerroom to get some goodies for his troubles.

    On a completely separate note, I was lucky enough to get good seats behind the visitor’s penalty box for yesterday’s game. And Scottie Hartnell and Riley Cote were absolutely hilarious. They were reacting and shouting back at the fans’ jeers. Cote got especially lambasted for refusing to fight Orr (which was probably a smart move anyway).

  58. I’m curious Carp just for the sake of sweet daydreams who would be a good GM and is available today if Sather was fired?

  59. I said it before, I think the Rangers missed out big time when Brian Burke went to Toronto. He would have been a great GM for us. The guy knows hockey, he can handle the NY media, he recognizes talent when he sees it, and he knows when to say when on players salaries. He’s everything Sather is not.

  60. Who Needs Lohan on

    Have I mentioned I hate the Rangers??? Yes, I still will be watching as usual tonight…..

  61. Who Needs Lohan on

    Whats worse?
    a) Slowly dripping water landing on your forehead.
    b) Having someone flicking your testicle every 30 seconds.
    c) Death by hanging.
    d) Watching a 2-1 Rangers game.

  62. I normally would never say this, but I am rooting for the Rangers to lose tonight. We need a big change. The status quo will simply not do. Sorry Renney, thanks for the playoffs but something has to give.

  63. The only thing keeping us in the playoff picture is the awful play of both the Habs and Pens. Fortunately for us, we’re not the only fans who are suffering…

  64. jeffluke

    I listen to Montreol radio every day

    here are the similarities with rangers:

    coach or GM to blame?
    souless/gutless leadership and captains
    players have played well in past, what gives?

    here are the differences:

    Free agent issues: Habs have like a dozen unsigned players..people think they are not performing because their status is up in the air

    Mean while….Rangers have everyone locked up…for life

    Give me Habs problems any day

  65. Kaspar

    I’m not saying the Habs and Pens are as doomed as we are… I’m just grateful that there are other teams (considered a lock to make the playoffs) that are playing poorly. After the past 2 weeks, I seriously think we may be the worst team in the league, if you consider all the intangibles and extracurriculars (Management, contracts, on ice effort etc.). When teams look at their upcoming schedules they now consider us a “should win” game.

    So as long as other teams flounder, we have a better shot… you know schadenfreude, or whatever the germans call it:

    Taking pleasure in other people’s misfortunes

  66. Gotta love Eklund: “The Rangers should be adding Mr. Avery soon and I hear it is possible that the Stars will be taking a fairly high-priced d-man off of their hands to do so.”

  67. Is there anywere online I can catch the game tonight? Someone gave me a link last week but the video wasn’t loading :-(

  68. mike jones

    you may also want to check out channelsurfing.net

    NHL games, English Premier League, NBA, UFC etc.

  69. # Zhervalev February 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Gotta love Eklund: “The Rangers should be adding Mr. Avery soon and I hear it is possible that the Stars will be taking a fairly high-priced d-man off of their hands to do so.”

    ah…if only!!!

  70. A 2nd and a 3rd round pick for Schnieder, solid deal for Atlanta. They are going nowhere, and he is ufa after this year.

  71. “You know, I went to the same exact sleep away camp as his son did, and Dolan had the nerve to land his helicopter on the baseball field- in the middle of a game, to pick up his son to go on a sailing trip for the weekend.

    Says a lot about the Dolans. Great people, truly. :(”

    If this is true then the police dept in this town are a bunch of idiots for letting this happen.

  72. ..how P-oed is Mara now that he took his one year contract to play with this mess and in the middle of a very solid year (the most coinsistent player on the team throughout the season) he gets injured.. i actually feel for the guy!

  73. oh my…Prucha gets another game then he will be considered worn out and proceeds to sit for the next 8 games…

  74. let Renney and Sather hang in the wind until this diaster season is over, and they don’t make the playoffs. Then dolan MIGHT fire both and the rest
    .

  75. Doodie Machetto on

    “A 2nd and a 3rd round pick for Schnieder, solid deal for Atlanta. They are going nowhere, and he is ufa after this year.”

    That’s a terrible deal for them. They should’ve gotten a first for Schneider with his playoff pedigree.

    Atlanta should have made the trade closer to the deadline to get the maximum return.

  76. Blues – Rangers 4-1. Boyes with a hat trick, Berglund gets 3 ass and a goal, Mason is great stopping 40 Rangers “shoves”. Maybe the 4th line will get a dirty goal.

    yaaeck

  77. Obviously there are some smart GMs when it comes to cap management ( Holland,Lou Lam) and some dumb ones ( Slats, Martin and …until he’s proven himself even the great Brian Burke)

    but…the question is how long will it be before the big money franchises begin to chaffe under Bettman’s blunder?

    remeber how it was supposed to be a losing CBA for the players and that owners had won?

    Now..after runnaway increases in the Cap Max and a financila stall coming ( if not reduction)…these big money teams are hemmed in and cannot manuever due to a cap restrictions..

    while smaller teams dont spend and sell of their best players??

    You would think a rich mans revolt was in order….no?

  78. Doodie Machetto on

    Prucha will sit as soon as he goes a game without a point.

    Prucha’s last eleven games: 2 g, 4 a

    And that’s with his very limited icetime. Let’s see how some of the team’s offensive leaders have done in their past 11:

    Gomez: 2g, 6a
    Naslund: 3g, 4a
    Drury: 0g, 3a
    Callahan: 1g, 3a (but at least he hustles and hits)
    Dawes: 0g, 1a (although to be fair in the 12 games before that he had 5g and 5a)
    Dubinsky: 1g, 3a (although he had 2g in 3 games prior to the 11)
    Zherdev:4g, 2a

    Over his last 14 games, Korpikoski has had 4 goals and 3 assists (with 2 goals and an assist in his last 3). Before that, he went 14 games without a point. Why was he never scratched either?

    And let’s not forget the “size” that kept him out of the lineup:

    Voros: 0g, 1a. No goals in *24* games.

    FIRE RENNEY

  79. Sobering thought: If the Rangers miss the playoffs Sather and Renney STILL will not be fired – so that Sather can sign more FA’s like Gomez, Dreary, Kalinin, and Redden. So that Sather can continue to bury Anisimov, Sauer, Potter, Parenteau, et al. behind the Betts, Orr, and the hideous D contingent. So that Renney can treat young players like dogmeat, retain his clueless assistants, and make the power play look like the P.K.

    I am going freaking NUTS over this team’s lack of any leadership at the top. DOLAN HAS TO GO – Christ, even in death Dolan’s imprint will be on thisteam for another decade, thereafter. George Steinbrenner, Donald Trump. SOMEBODY with balls, drive, pride, and money – Please come in here, buy the team and S.O.S. The Titanic Ranger has hit the berg. The Wolfpack is better than the Rangers. Absolutely. More effort and ability down there. And they have Avery – the Rangers have Drury for “leadership.”

    Damn, I hope this is the dark before the dawn, because it sure is dark around here.

  80. anyone think they should call up Del Z? Or is it Potter… or Kalinin? IDK with Mara out this team could turn into the Islanders (who are playing much much better)

  81. I’m gonna say it so I’m ready for bullets my way…
    Avery has more impact on games than Zherdev

    I looked at Doodies list and I was going to say Avery has more impact than all of them except Zherdev but then I thought about it…the kid does know how to dissappear…with or without our genius coaching staffs help; when he’s on he’s on…when he’s not he’s useless…

  82. Bobby S. was -13 early in December. His play has picked up since then. I would put him at 3rd callup on the depth chart at D, after Sauer and Potter. But with the Rangers completely washed-out D corps, save Girardi and Staal, how could it hurt to call up one or more of the above. How the hell could things be any worse than the Four Headless Defenseman of the Apocalypse. Not giving kids a chance is NOT how you improve a team of listless, clueless, brain-dead defensemen. We have four D’s who need to go – NOW!

  83. Doodie Machetto on

    “More effort and ability down there. And they have Avery – the Rangers have Drury for “leadership.””

    Effort yes. Ability? Even with the current lousy roster, Hartford would lose by double digits.

  84. All Hail King Henrik on

    “Forcrissakes,playPrucha!,

    I realize we are not winning the cup this year but all I want to see out of these guys is heart.”

    I can agree with you there 100%. As long as they show heart and effort, I could care less if they are beaten by better teams. The majority of this team is just so soft, though. It’s incredibly irritating as a fan to watch most of the Rangers avoid post-whistle scrums and dust-ups like the plague. Most of them just allow themselves to be pushed around and hit, unless one of Orr/Dubi/Mara/Call jumps in to defend them.

    WTF is that? Seriously…WTF? PUSH BACK. FIGHT BACK. HIT SOMEONE. HAVE SOME GOD DAMN PRIDE! PUNCH THAT FLYER/DEVIL/ISLANDER/WHATEVER IN HIS F___ING FACE!

    Where is the honor and pride for these guys? How do you allow yourself to be pushed around like that. How do they look in the mirror at night after that?

    The lack of heart / pride and general softness of this team is certainly one of it’s most disturbing components.

  85. Doodie Machetto on

    Kaspar, no doubt Avery will have SOME kind of impact on the team. The thing is, it will only be temporary, it won’t be much in the way of being positive, but has the potential to be quite large negatively, and his contract will definitely be negative on the team in the future.

    I hate the Avery pickup so much.

  86. All Hail

    great post…

    ask yourself this….all season long have you even seen one single hit that a ranger laid on someone that caused the puck to squirt free and lead to a goal???

    Yet..every single game there is one the opposite way…every game one goal by the opposition begins with a crunching hit; whether its Lucic on Dwes, Ott on staal etc…

  87. Kaspar, even though Zherdev can disappear I remember Avery disappearing during the Buffalo series and last year vs Pitt before he got hurt. Not that Avery coming back can’t be any worse than what we’ve got now.

  88. hahaha Avery has 5 CAREER power play goals! I sometimes forget what his stat sheet actually looks like.

  89. DomivBaumgartner on

    The Rangers problems started when Maloney left and went to Phoenix. We haven’t had a scout with an eye for talent since Don. If you guys want to root for the Rangers there is a team in southern Ontario called the Kitchener Rangers.

  90. Funny thing about this Ranger team…

    For Avery’s goal scoring ability alone ( last three seasons 15, 17 and 15 ) he’d be one of their leaders…

    How many rangers will score 15 this year?….

  91. Jeez, I hope to see the team come out tonight with some sense of pride and play hard. Am I asking for too much? Or are we in for another score 1 give up 1 30 seconds later debacle? Come on Rangers, show your fans that you care!!

  92. Doodie Machetto on

    4, possibly 5.

    Naslund, Drury, and Zherdev are all there already. Cally is 2 shy. Gomez is at 10, but if somehow the team starts playing offense he could possibly score 5 over the next 25 games.

  93. Islanders beat Penguins in a shootout 3-2. The Islanders are more entertaining to watch than the Rangers lately, sheesh…they’re out of the playoff race but they play with pride.

  94. I’m sitting here and I swear…all I can think is “Why hasn’t there been a firing of somekind already”

  95. Great shot today of The Crosby Dive — head snapping back, arms extended, dropping to the ice as if hit pointblank by a .44 — from your basic, run of the mill non-violent shove from Witt by the Islander net.

    Witt’s reaction was classic. He paused, looked down at Crosby, shook his head with disgust and shrugged his arms as if to say, “You have got to be SH!TTING me.”

  96. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    stuart
    February 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    I heard the rangers lead the league in hits….

    stuart- you know why we lead the league in hits? its because we hardly ever possess the puck, and when we do, we give it away, dump it in, or take bad angle impossible shots with nobody going for rebounds. when the other team has the puck way more than you and pressure you you hit more but with the rangers their hits are weak, tyutin was a good hitter and d man for us. not sure if this trade for Z is still gonna pay off. he just might not resign or we wont have space to

  97. Pissed that the Pens got a point.. oh well. It is sad the Isles are playing better. Cannot believe Streit is a +2. Should be considered for the Norris!

  98. Kaspar

    Nope. I was watching the Pittsburgh feed, and even they made no mention that a penalty should have been called. It was so flagrant, so ridiculous that even those homers would not go near it with a comment.

  99. Ok, it seems people here think they KNOW how to run a hockey team and to be a GM, or even how to coach better than these people doing the job.

    OK, then I challenge. Go out there and work your way into being an NHL coach or an NHL GM. Since it’s “so easy” everyone can do it right?

    Some people act like these players WANT to lose. Or they don’t care. That might be the case in a sport like baseball. But hockey players CARE. Have you seen guys get cut or loose teeth, only to show up in the same game? Taking pucks off the face, off the body? You think a guy like Drury doesn’t care? Night in and night out, he does the “dirty” stuff in front of the net. He isn’t Holmstrom with that size, or Knuble. But he stands there and takes punishment. Did you see him getting killed by Chara in the Boston game in front?

    You can say a lot about this team like bad contracts but don’t ever say they give up or don’t try. Fans here ARE spoiled. Saying “anything other that a cup is failure” is exactly why I say that. Then I guess every team is a failure every year but one. The best team does not win the cup every year. The team that gets hot at the right time does. The rare exceptions are teams like Detroit last year.

  100. Chris, they are weak and our big “leader” types are not doing what it takes…its that simple. They are not leading! instead they are collecting there big money and going home.
    Ranger fans are not spoiled…if you think 1 cup in the last 60 whatever years is spoiled then you better go back to the dictionary and look up spoiled…we are anything but spoiled!

  101. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “”ford February 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Great shot today of The Crosby Dive—head snapping back, arms extended, dropping to the ice as if hit pointblank by a .44—from your basic, run of the mill non-violent shove from Witt by the Islander net.

    Witt’s reaction was classic. He paused, looked down at Crosby, shook his head with disgust and shrugged his arms as if to say, “You have got to be SH!TTING me.” “”

    Ha haa!! That’s classic! Love it!

  102. Anybody else get the feeling Chris is Renney or Sather in disguise?

    A retarded monkey could go a better job at GM then Glen Sather.

    And forget about tonight…my fear is that the Islanders are gonna run us out of MSG Wednesday night. It’s setting up that way. God knows they play hard every night, with minimal talent.

    Can’t say the same about the Rangers.

  103. I want to know what we are spoiled with?
    So are we spoiled because we have Renney as coach?
    Are we spoiled because Sather has done such a stellar job putting this so call “team” together?
    Are we spoiled by a well run PP?
    The only fans I can think of as spoiled is Devil fans…they have Lou building teams out of nothing and they win no matter who is in net…Weekes looks like a Genius in all this!!!

  104. And saying we’re “Spoiled”?? SPOILED??? Watching yet another group of overpaid overrated emotionless veterans suck the life out of the team, the building, and the jersey. Watching a clueless coach stare blankly knowing he can’t think his way out of this problem? Knowing our GM is a bonafide schmuck who got lucky over 2 decades ago with Mess and Gretz and has proceeded to milk millions off of THEIR talents while showing for the past 17 years he’s not nearly as smart as he tells people he is.

    I only ask for EFFORT and ACCOUNTABILITY. Our young players show effort, thank god…but if they make one mistake it can cost them ice time or games. If you’re a vet, making big money, you can suck all night long…Renney won’t punish you. Renney talks the talk…can’t walk the walk.

    This franchise is sinking yet again…with the Banff Buffoon puffing away laughing his ass off that the dumbest man on the planet is his boss.

    Speaking of which…check out the wikipedia page for Lil Jimmy Dolan….seems a Rangers fan has re-written the section on the Rangers

    Check it out, you’ll piss yourself laughing…

  105. CJP

    You’re right, the wiki is hilarious. Turns out that Jimmy D and I went to the same college, which must either mean that I’m an idiot or qualified to run MSG.

    From the wikipedia page:
    The Rangers saw a decline in performance in the wake of Dolan’s increased role in managing the team and failed to make the playoffs from the 1997-1998 season until the 2004–05 NHL lockout, despite leading the league in payroll in most of those years. This was the longest playoff drought in franchise history. Despite fan and media calls for the team’s general manager Glen Sather to be publicly executed for the organization’s shortcomings, Sather was retained and still pays over-the-hill players a lot of money to fail miserably.

  106. chris you are way off base, and yes i think anyone with any intelligence, business sense and even the smallest understanding of hockey could be a better gm than sather. no executive would invest $6.5M a year in an asset that had declined in value/performance the previous three years. the fact that we cant become the gm of the rangers doesnt mean we couldnt do a better job than sather…there is no logic in such an argument

    and don maloney leaving is not the reason this team is in trouble and has bad talent evaluation. maloney was the leading force behind getting jessiman having personally scouted him on numerous occasions going back to jessimans hs days. maloney was also responsible for us taking montoya,etc. we were drafting poorly with maloney he is no genius. and as bad as smith was at drafting at least he brought over our swedish scouts from his days with the red wings, those guys are the only ones capable of evaluating talent in the organization

  107. Alright, I got out of work just now (I hadda work today bah humbug) in any event I wanna address a few things:

    1. Domi-Maloney wasn’t that great of an AGM. He’s the one who drafted Jessiman so that’s all on him.

    2. I know I can do a better job running the Rangers than Sather and Esposito combined. Why? Because I care and bleed blue and am a Tom Coughlin fan. I wouldn’t have signed Redden, I wouldn’t have signed Rozi, I would’ve went after Commodore as my #1 priority, followed by Jason Smith, and I only wanted one of Drury or Gomez, I would’ve brought Nylander back for four years at $5 mill.

    3. Is MTL stupid? Are they drunk? They gave up too much for Schneider. Once upon a time he won a Cup with them and was elite, but he’s at the end of his career. I don’t think he’s gonna have some Wilf Paiment of Steve Thomas playoff impact in the 35+ club.

    4. Oh boy, I’m gonna watch tonight’s game with friends. Why do I do this to myself? I guess I like pain. Watching the Rangers this year is like trying to go on a date with that super hot chick who clearly has no interest in you, but you keep trying to talk to her and you end up embarrassing yourself and crushing your self esteem and morale. I love Cally, Dubi, Staal, Z, Girardi, Henrik, Korpi and the young guys, but the rest of the team can go fly a kite.

  108. Yes I am calling all of your spoiled. Fans chanting “fire Renney” are spoiled. He’s not the best coach in the league but I would def call him top 5.

    Now, how much they have won has no bearing on whether this city’s fans are spoiled. I’ll explain this to you. Has any baseball team been more successful than the Yanks? No. Do their fans BOO their own players (even Jeter and Rivera at times)? Yes. That is spoiled.

    I think NY fans like to chant the “fire (insert coach)” line because they want to be cool. To be known as “smart fans”. Not true.

    You are telling me these fans care that much? Ok explain to me why in a 3-2 game in the 3rd with 2 mnutes left, with the Rangers trying to come back, so many fans are interested with chanting and whistling at a former Isles player? Oh yeah, they really care.

    Fans here only care about winning. That’s all.

    CJP, if you can do better, prove it. Go out and become an NHL GM. Or quit acting like you know more than the pros. You don’t and neither do i.

  109. MikeA,
    Please don’t ever compare the Rangers to a hot chick…they are more like a fat overpaid chick…and your really drunk so…you think she is a hot chick…but its just the beer talking.

  110. Chris you are arguing like your in grade school…please just take your ball and go home…
    If we were Montreal and had won an unbelievable amount of Stanley Cups you just barely may have a point.

  111. Where does Mike Babcock, Todd McLellan, Claude Julien, Jacques Lemaire and Torts fit in to the top 5?

    nowhere?

  112. Chris-I respect you opinion and this isn’t personal, but I’m mad as hell. Yankees fans bood Arod, Mets fans bood the entire bullpen, Philly fans boo everyone; why? Because they all stunk.

    If I wanna boo, it’s my right as an American to boy Redden, Drury, etc. I’ll never burn a player’s t-shirt or stoop to something like that which I have seen.

    I’ve been following this damn organization for 20 years and I’m bleeping sick and tired of playing second fiddle to Montreal, Detroit, etc. I’ve spent hundreds of dollars at games, dedicated my birthdays to going to other cities with friends to see this team play, etc. I want a bleeping winner already.

    Maybe I sound spoiled, but I don’t wanna live in 1994 forever. Idiots should have had a dynasty but screwed that up thanks to trading Zubov and Norstrom.

    I know I can be a better GM. I’d love to go out and learn how to be one, but that’s kinda hard at age 28.

    Wanna hear how I know I’d be a better GM? Case in point; you have to build a team based on where you play. The Rangers have mediocre ice. You want a good team for that? You build a dump and chase grinding team of heavy hitters. If I was GM, every player would play like Ryan Callahan. You crash the goalie, dump the puck, hit the other team’s dmen, and if anyone looks at my goalie the wrong way, you get beat up. There you have it, non-PC, exciting, adrenaline fueled TOUGH hockey.

    If I was owner, I’d publicly embarrass Redden and Drury to start with.

  113. Staalwart-Very good. As a friend who went to Vassar (75% girls although many are lesbians) once told me: Go-go gadget beer goggles. :)P

  114. If Renney was a top 5 coach we theoretically would be a top 5 team…but last time I checked we are spiraling downward in the standings!

  115. DanTheRangerFan on

    Its not the loosing part that really kills me..its the fact that these Rangers are not even fun to watch. We have had seasons where we could only win a game every blue moon and still i didnt mind turing the tv on because there was some entertainmet value… These rangers are just lifeless, Someone do something to help this team.

  116. DanTheRangerFan on

    Chris go find a really high cliff and jump off it or play in traffic. Your earlier post is the most ridiculous post ive heard in awhile..It belongs in the yenner and bob postings category..you obviously have no clue about hockey and should find another sport to watch.

  117. top 5 coaches also have working PP’s, as well as motivated and productive players…and I haven’t seen many of them even show up on a nightly basis. Redden ring a bell?

  118. Doodie Machetto on

    “Have you seen guys get cut or loose teeth, only to show up in the same game? Taking pucks off the face, off the body? You think a guy like Drury doesn’t care? Night in and night out, he does the “dirty” stuff in front of the net. He isn’t Holmstrom with that size, or Knuble. But he stands there and takes punishment. Did you see him getting killed by Chara in the Boston game in front?”

    I see Gomez dodging contact(also noted by Carp), and Dawes coughed up the puck on the GWG so blatantly to avoid getting hit in the Bruins game that it made me sick.`When was the last time you saw Wade Redden lay it out on the line?

    Sure Drury stands in front of the net, but that’s all he does. He stands around. Never skates, never hustles, never hits. Oh, and he has no goals in 11 games.

    Where are all of the people last year saying how they couldn’t wait for Drury to be captain instead of Jagr? I think Drury’s failures this season brings to light Jagr’s adequacy as captain.

    Oh, and just to update the last 11 games thing, Shanahan has 3 goals and 2 assists so far in his 11 games this season.

  119. onecupin67years on

    You guys sound too angry…
    Relax….
    Its the rangers..they always sucked..
    They finished in 1st place 6 times in 80 odd years.
    4 cups in 80 odd years
    They were never a winning dynasty. and are probably the worst original 6 team during that era.

  120. Doodie Machetto on

    “Its not the loosing part that really kills me..its the fact that these Rangers are not even fun to watch. We have had seasons where we could only win a game every blue moon and still i didnt mind turing the tv on because there was some entertainmet value… These rangers are just lifeless, Someone do something to help this team.”

    I hear you on that. In the 2003-04 season I went to like 25 games (I was buying tickets on eBay the day of the game for like 10 bucks a pop) but it was great to watch all of the kids essentially having extended NHL tryouts. Sure, they were awful and lost almost every game, but they hustled and worked very hard. Plus I loved watching Barnaby until he got traded.

  121. I’ll take this over any of the 98-04 teams but still AAAArrrgghhh. I know, I take this team too seriously, my last g/f told me that LOL. The only good team from that era was the post firesale team. The FLY line was OK but I hated Lindros as a Ranger (nice guy though, met him in DC when I was down there).

    BTW, I’m still ticked at Sather for not drafting Akim Aliu if anyone remembers him. He was available and they went for Antionne LaFleur who unless he pulls an Ed Belfour..wah-wah-waaah. Also should’ve got that Kerilli Petrov kid who the Islanders acquired. If he comes over, he could be a good power winger.

  122. howyagonnatellme on

    I’ll take this over any of the 98-04 teams but still AAAArrrgghhh.

    I wouldn’t. Those teams were fun. Insane, sometimes. Yet always entertaining.

    Nothing sucked worse than never, ever making the playoffs. Except for this. Because I’m so disinterested, I don’t even care at this point. At least I used to care.

    That’s on Tom Renney.

    MSG’s atmosphere is completely different, now. It used to buzz with life, even during those dark years. Even if it was shouting “Fi-re Sath-er” over and over. Now? None of that. Lifeless.

    Because the team is 100% lifeless.

  123. OneCup-To be fair, everyone craps on the Rangers but no one talks about the truth; the regional drafting where the Rangers got screwed worse than any original 6 franchise from the 40s to 1967 and MTL got all the talent. Chicago only has four Cups. Did everyone forget that because of Michael Jordan? Toronto hasn’t one in what will be 42 years now. And also, we’re all so fast to forget about the “Dead Wings” era when between Gordie Howe and Steve Yzerman (72-66 I think) the Red Wings were at the bottom of the league.

    In my lifetime (1981 was when I was born) the Rangers have been to the Conference Finals four times (1981, 1968, 1994 of course, and 1997) won one championship (1994 duh), two President’s Trophies (1992 and 1994) and three Division titles (1989, 1992, and 1994 and missed the division buy one point in 2006).

    Not to mention before the seven years of futility, they missed the playoffs only once (1988).

    That’s not too bad. It could be MUCH better, but it’s not horrible.

  124. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Chris-

    Renney a top 5 coach????????????????????

    Stop smoking those funny little cigars that Sather’s been smoking since the Oiler glory days.

  125. howyagonnatellme -Those teams from 98-04 stunk. They didn’t win. Winning is fun and nothing else is. Screw All Star games and records, it’s all about winning. The players in those years like Sylvain Leferbve, Kamensky, Quintal, Dunham, Lindros, Ulanov, Karpa, etc. all make me wanna throw up. Theo Fluery was fun for five minutes before he broke poor Sharkie’s nose and walked out during the game. Lindros was a dumb trade.

    I don’t care if the Rangers have the personality of the late 90s Yankees and I don’t care if they all dress in drag and hang out on Christopher St. the bottom line is as long as they win, it’s fun.

    Whoa, i said a lot tonight, this team is bringing out the worst in me LOL. Enjoy the game everyone, remember; TRY NOT TO PUNCH ANY PUPPIES :(

  126. I agree, I don’t even care anymore. My wife asked me if I was watching the game tonight…well duh…of course I am, but I almost want the slide to continue, I that fed up with this mess, its time for change! F Sather and fire Renney

  127. I got 5 bucks i’ll toss in to find a centerman who can pass the puck.

    …Renney, “Ok centerman, lets hear how you plan to distribute the puck to your scoring wingers.”

    Gomez, “I’ll skate it from one end to the other and dump it in the corner.”

    Drury, “I’ll stand here over to the side of the net because we are so good at getting point shots with rebounds that bounce 2 feet to the side.”

    Dubinsky, “I’m gonna go hit someone in the corner. You guys do the passing.”

    Betts, “WTF? I can’t do everything!”

  128. MikeA
    I began following NYR in 1970-71 playoffs…I was spoiled; they went to semifinals 4 straight years, playoffs 9 straight and 1 cup final; alas…they never won it all…then after a couple rebuild years a finals appearence in 79 and semis in 81….

    During those times ( say 68 to 89) people will be amazed to know that only Mont, Bost, Philly, NY Islanders and Edmonton won the cup…thats 5 teams in like 20 years!!! Then it was Calgary, Pittsburgh, The Rangers getting on the board….and then the rest

    Chicago has now gone 48 years
    Toronto 42
    even Boston is up to 37 years w/o the cup
    Montreol is at 16
    Rangers 15
    and we all know about Detroit (they actually went 40 years w/o a cup before 97)

    Theres been lots of droughts; even the expansion 67ers now have teams around 40+ years w/o a cup..Stlouis, LA

  129. Yes he is a top 5 coach.

    People say Julien is better? How may cups has he won? McLellan also.

    Lemaire is a good defensive coach and he won with the Devs. But has he since? Torts same thing. Reason why he was fired no?

    Babcock is a good coach.

    Point is simple. Coaching goes only as far as the players you have AND luck. I guess Peter Lavolette is as good a coach as Lemaire then because they each have one cup right?

    Cmon people, get with it.

  130. Chris you do have a point in the players…our’s stink and have handicapped us to the point of not being able to do much.
    Ultimately the players have to perform…but Renney screws players like Prucha, and there is no reason whatsoever to explain how Redden is playing 22 minutes a night…he and others are liabilities on the ice.

  131. Did anyone listen to or watch the NHL Live! today? Hradek was on. They must have gotten at least five Rangers questions. The gist of their comments was that they thought Renney was a good coach but has been hamstrung by the composition of the team.

  132. “Renney is a top 5 coach….C’mon people, get with it.”

    Chris, for sheer chutzpah, you win the grand prize. I’d be fine with, “Bobby Orr, best player ever. C’mon people get with it.” Or “Michael Bloomberg is the Mayor of NY. C’mon people, get with it.” Or “Scarlett Johansson has an incredible rack. C’mon people, get with it.”

    But Tom Renney’s genius is so readily apparent that people need to be slapped silly if they don’t see it?

    Classic.

  133. and that Renney apologist Eddie O. is doing this game too.

    he was a fired coach in pitt, so he is biased as hell toward the coaches.

    but it is disgusting to have to listen to him just ignore and gloss over the real coaching problems spelled out often on this board. the PP to name one obvious one.

  134. This game represents a six game swing that will be crucial to our playoff future! Hopefully they come out with some fire. I want to see if Callahan rubs off on Gomez.

  135. This is funny… Renney says we just gotta come out and play strong and create…they come out and nothing happens…. Gomez says we got to score more goals… nothing happens… the team says we gotta man up…nothing happens… Kind of reminds of this blog… we all yell for change…and nothing happens…weird

  136. you know it’s the year 2009 when a struggling hockey team tries a line with two americans and a russian to jump start their scoring.

  137. Yawn, i have to hand it to the Rangers. The game is only 10 minutes old and i’m already bored. There better be a legitimate reason Dawes isnt in, I dont like him, but compared to Voros…he’s Gretzky

  138. Cally-Gomez-Naslund have no chemistry. None.

    Zherdev-Dubi-Prucha looked good yesterday, why not tonight?

  139. “Renney said that Redden looked ‘composed’ yesterday.”

    What the eff does that mean/matter/have to do with anything!!

  140. Zherdev-Dubi-Prucha looked good yesterday, why not tonight?

    Because Renney tries anything to screw over Prucha. Plus Renney rewards struggling vets with lots of ice time.

  141. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    bettsorr shoe playin how the rest of the team should once again. nothing changes

  142. “What the eff does that mean/matter/have to do with anything!!”

    Probably means the same thing as “our coach has fear issues”, in other words nonsense.

  143. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    these teams match up pretty well. thank god were not in the western conference.

  144. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    betts n shoe do everything dru, nas, gomer, z n doobs should do. dru’s line with z and doobs had 1 ok shift and gomers line sucked. 4th line is the only consistently good line at forechecking even if they dont have the hands they try and create oppurtunitys. shoe is good in the corners and is strong on the puck. maybe put him with gomez and get nassy out of there.

  145. What a waste of Korp and Prucha playing them with Voros. Guarenteed to fail. Zherdev-Dubi-Prucha looked good yesterday so why keep them together since Renney cannot have that.

  146. Timbo

    Only problem is my considerable nonsense doesn’t affect the play on the ice! But the fact that you’re acknowledging Renney’s nonsense, however indirectly, means you’re gettig there, however slowly.

  147. CALLAHAN FOR PRESIDENT on

    Speaking of lines, the Rangers have no lines besides Betts Orr and Sjo. After the 1st period I could’ve swore I was watching an amateur game.

  148. “There better be a legitimate reason Dawes isnt in,”

    how about not covering his man, and letting him score. or chickening out along the boards and allowing a GWG. or floating around like the invisible man.

  149. Yes Betts no doubt gets my extra effort award vote this year. How can you not give it to him.
    If half the team played with that enthusiasm and grit we would be on top. But for some reason which I still can not understand, the team lost that about 20 games ago. Maybe this is the turn around. Crunch time. Let’s hope.

  150. BETTS should be CAPTAIN on

    BETTS should be CAPTAIN, he’s doing the same thing Drury is doing and is 10x better at it.

  151. At the 10 minute mark, they showed a replay of a play in the Rangers zone with Redden on the ice. The puck came directly in front of the net and not very fast and he completely whiffed on it. Anyone see this? And what did Renney say about Redden? WTF?

    Fire Renney for just pure blindness!

  152. the 4th line looks good because the other players have quit on Renney.

    another warning sign that Sather won’t heed.

  153. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “”jcl206 February 16th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Prucha centering Korpo and Voros. Renney wtf.””

    I guess Carp succeeded in getting that funny line generator thingy to Renney. ;)

  154. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    one of these days hankys gonna head it right into the back of the net. probably a playoff game too

  155. The faceoff dots are 25 feet from the goal.
    Here are Scott Gomez goals so far this year.
    Carolina-23 feet
    Anaheim-5 feet (rebound, goalie out of position leaving wide open net)
    Pittsburgh-18 feet (into empty net)
    NYI-3 feet (beautiful pass from Z, Gomez left with wide open net)
    NJD-8 feet (gets two rebounds and just whacks at it till its in
    Atlanta-10 feet (gets a rebound and puts it into wide open net
    Phoenix-64 feet (empty net)
    NYI-10 feet (shot hits off defensemen, goalie out of position, puts into open net)
    Buffalo-40 feet (legit goal)
    Tampa Bay-12ft. (rebound, wide open net)

    Just wanted to point out for a 7 million dollar guy, he has only two legit goals.

  156. one of these days hankys gonna head it right into the back of the net. probably a playoff game too

    That is what is now known as a Tommy Salo. Except he did it on an even bigger scale.

  157. “Playoffs? Who’s talking about playoffs? We’re just trying to win another game. Playoffs!?!?!” – Jim Mora

  158. I’m not currently watching the game, but is Renney using the same ineffective PP line of Drury, Gomez, and Naslund?

  159. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    i meant it would be our luck that he does the head save and goes in our net in a crucial point in a playoff game. not neccesarily meant this season

  160. Voros again on the PP. This time he whiffed on the puck. Another great idea from Renney, keep Prucha off the PP and put him on the line with Voros. Next game goodbye Prucha and maybe Korp.

  161. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    voros has been ok guys he hasnt been brutal. but yea he doesnt deserve any pp time whatsoever

  162. Renney said Redden was composed? Composed of what exactly? Jello, marshmallow, and goo?

    Nice whiff by our man Voros, he’s such a powerhouse!

    Missed the game yesterday, but trying to catch up with all your posts was really depressing. My fiance has finally learned to not ask me how they did on any game night. He gets scared when I start ‘explaining’ it to him lol! He doesn’t understand why I let this team twist me up into knots, but he’s trying. I guess he thinks i’m a bit mental anyway.

    Damn these Versus guys suck! First they talk about the guys freakin tie, and now they are talkin about cheese and pickles.

  163. The only reason he’s out there on the PP is to use his size in front of the net to screen the goalie…but he doesn’t do a very good job, especially when the Rangers can’t setup most of the time

  164. Time on Ice (as of 12:42 left 2nd period):

    Prucha: 3:47
    Korpikoski: 3:47
    Orr: 5:05 (00:09 PP TOI)
    Drury: 10:36

  165. Doodie Machetto on

    I love how Voros gets PP time. Must be his whopping 0 goals in 24 games. He and Drury’s no goals in 11 games. And Redden’s lack of a 5 on 4 PP point in how many months?

    That’s our Powerplay!

    It’s like Renney talked to Isiah Thomas about how you can’t get fired and Renney is testing that theory.

    The beating Voros just took was my favorite moment of the season. Without question.

  166. What is the philosophy behind failed combinations of players on PP being used over and over again? Anyone? I mean… can the players themselves suggest something to a coach like” hey coach, this isn’t working…lets trying this and that” is something like that possible?

  167. Renny wins, I can’t even get pissed anymore at the decisions on ice time, on Prucha, on Voros, he wins, he has killed my sense of hope re: this team/

    P.S. Nice punching bag, Voros. What a beat-down that was.

  168. That should be a message for Voros to never go to prison, he would get owned by someone so fast.

  169. Who Needs Lohan on

    Asham = classy
    Janssen = Dirty

    Punching a guy while he is down on the ice is gutless. Orr will go after him, mark my words……

  170. Janssen is a real tough customer, he looks like he doesnt take any crap no matter what. Hated him the Devils.

  171. Doodie Machetto on

    The downside from Voros being in the penalty box is it gives Renney an excuse not to play Prucha.

  172. Who Needs Lohan February 16th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Asham = classy
    Janssen = Dirty

    Punching a guy while he is down on the ice is gutless. Orr will go after him, mark my words……

    Maybe Janssen is secretly a Ranger’s fan

  173. ThisYearsModel on

    Of course, should Orr skate anywhere near Janssens he will head for the opposite wing immediately. Other than the fights, this game is a snoozefest.

  174. Renney calls a time out.

    Renney: “GUYS WTF, THIS ISNT OUR GAMEPLAN, WE NEED TO BE DOWN 7-0 and its scoreless, NOW GO OUT THERE, AND PLAY LIKE THE ISLANDERS!

  175. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    so how many goals do u guys think it takes until the rangers start forechecking

  176. Doodie Machetto on

    GREAT TIMEOUT RENNEY! YAY!!!

    And I give all the credit to Chris Drury. Bad clear led to the icing. Then the clean faceoff loss.

    Good thing he is near the top of the icetime list.

  177. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    rennys gettin more nervous. hes really gone if they lose this and the islanders game

  178. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    i think im abandoning this game tonight. i got so much other stuff to do. im torn though cuz i wanna see how bad we get blown out

  179. Doodie Machetto on

    “Renney calls a time out.

    Renney: “GUYS WTF, THIS ISNT OUR GAMEPLAN, WE NEED TO BE DOWN 7-0 and its scoreless, NOW GO OUT THERE, AND PLAY LIKE THE ISLANDERS!””

    HA! looks like they listened.

  180. Lundqvist has been showing he’s human lately. His 5 hole is very spacy as of late and we havent have fun high glove side this season.

  181. Am I the only one who cracked a smile during the versus telecast on the total gym commerical with chuck norris and wesley snipes? Maybe they can work the power play!

  182. Mike, he’s not going to be gone no matter what. If he wasn’t gone after Dallas and yesterday, it’s not happening

  183. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    im not doggin hank, but every other teams goalie outplays him it seems. for the most part. it sucks how bad we need him or were so screwed

  184. uh oh, redden on the ice for a pk. Let the onslaught begin. It doesn’t seem as if we’re getting quality shots on goal unless cally is on the ice. Yikes, Did cally save that ??? oi I cant even form coherent thoughts while watching this game!

  185. CCCP February 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    what is the talent level like in St. Louis? Their PP ranked 6th in the league…

    They’re a defensive team >.<

  186. when was the last time redden actually threw the body instead of gliding into his man? (ok that sounds kinda gross lol) and when was the last time he blocked a shot??

    and now we here that callahan leads the team in sogs this month….that’s not good when naslund gomez and drury are your leaders…

    thank God for KORPI

  187. Doodie Machetto on

    Korpikoski is hot right now. I feel like one of his other recent goals was a turnaround wrist shot

  188. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    dru must feel pathetic that our youngest most inexperienced guy is basically keepin this team in it while he does nothing

  189. Anyone know what the official lines were to start the game tonight?

    Seems Drury is being double shifted, looking at the time on the ice tonight.

  190. Korpikoski really does not deserve more ice time… 3 minutes through 2 periods is way too much… taking minutes away from Drury and Gomez is not cool!!

  191. it would be so much easier to DVR the games and just watch the goals…the actual gameplay is almost brain-numbing

  192. “was tnat two man dancing just now?”

    damn i thought the same thing at first.

    and sorry about that mental picture of Redden Mike…but ya gotta laugh. He’s softer than marshmallow

  193. why does Voros even fight? only upside there is that he either gets hurt, or is off the ice for 5 mins…guy is useless

  194. Jerkins, yes it’s sad for this season, but for down the road…

    Why doesn’t Drury play more in front of the net or the slot? He cut his reputation doing that but he hides off in the corner and tries to thread passes that have no prayer of finding a Rangers stick or at least one in a good scoring area.

    The other thing, how many tough saves do they force goalies to make? Hank has to make world class stops every night, yet Mason could probably do his income taxes and still stop the Rangers shots.

  195. Wade Redden (born June 12, 1977, in Lloydminster, Saskatchewan) is a Canadian professional ice hockey defenceman for the New York Rangers of the National Hockey League. He joined the Rangers in 2008 after 11 seasons with the Ottawa Senators. He has played for Canada internationally seven times, winning two gold medals in the World Junior Championships and once in the World Cup of Hockey. *He is considered the worst New York Ranger in franchise history.*

    From Wikipedia lmfao.

  196. “5 minutes of ice time for Korpo and Prucha, that is unacceptable for 2 period of hockey.”

    thats Tom Renney Hockey boys and girls! I bet Redden is up to 18 minutes after 2. Hell, if he didnt get that penalty, Voros would probably have 10 himself! He is coaches pet

  197. Voros is fighting so that Keith Jones won’t rip him a new one the way he did the last time the NYR were on Versus.

    I’m not sure I have ever seen as large a hockey player with less toughness, space-clearing ability, or a worse fighter.

  198. “Rich… too much fast forwarding to see those 2 HUGE GOALS!!”

    haha…

    this team’s offense would be best-suited for the “no-forward passing” era

  199. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    linda im scarred for life. the only thing i wanna see redden slide into is a right hand from orr

  200. Who Needs Lohan on

    I think playing your 4th line in the last 30 seconds of every period is sorta like the guy who just hooks up with the 5 or 6 at best without ever trying to score the 8 or 9.

  201. czechthemout!!!! on

    How can you respect a coach who time after time puts out the fourth line after his team scores a big goal. They are competing a little more tonight but I think it’s more the Blues are not so strong.I say this because at times when the Blues turn it on the Rangers are not even noticable out there.

  202. West Canadian Survivor on

    Orr and Betts have nearly played twice as many minutes through two as Prucha and Korpikoski, plus Orr was in the box for 5 minutes. For all of you Renney supporters out there, is this truly the way to run an offensively challenged hockey team??

  203. “Renney’s treatment of Prucha continues to disgust.”

    if Prucha plays more than the 2:30 he’s averaged in the first 2 periods of this game he might wear down before the playoffs…gotta keep him fresh

  204. czechthemout!!!! on

    I have not checked but I bet that the fourth line leads the team in ice time.

    Vorors is a pussy and fights almost like a girl.I can’t believe Byers was not kept instead of this moron.

  205. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    maybe if some other players played like the 4th line we wouldnt have to have this conversation

  206. “linda im scarred for life. the only thing i wanna see redden slide into is a right hand from orr”

    now THAT would be interesting! Maybe if noone else claims him, maybe Avery can clock him! LOL I’m sorry, the guy just glides into people! HE HITS NOONE!!! I swear he just might be the worst NY Ranger ever!

  207. czechthemout!!!! on

    Who ever said it,I agree.It will go to the shoot out and we’ll win and Renney get to fight another day.

  208. We should’ve keep Mitch Fritz, and put him on a Line with Orr, then signed Holik to center that line.

  209. czechthemout!!!! on

    jerkins perkins(mike in ia) –

    Unfortunatly,he was injured early in the season with a torn acl much like Sauer last season.Byers scored over 20g last year and had 4g and 5assits in nine games before his injury.
    The point is he had nothing left to prove down there anymore and should of been a Ranger this year.Perhaps he would not have had his season ended by an career minor leaguer.

  210. here we go. should I dare say this period is going to be interesting? I say we lose in the shootout.

  211. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) February 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    matt- i did, now i have a kid. not cool

    HUNH?

  212. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) February 16th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    matt really?? u cant figure that out?

    Yeah, i got it after a few minutes lol.

  213. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) February 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    redden n rozy. how long god? how long must we put up with this crap?

    6 years for Redden, 4 for Rozy

  214. The Rangers are soooooo gooood … I enjoy watching this team more than any other, even the ’94 team.

  215. these commericals are priceless! Aleve: Never stop playing. That should be mandatory for rangers before the game!

  216. Ah finally home & in front of a actual keyboard LOL

    Did I miss anything other than a pathetic 1 – 1 tie so far? How have they played?

  217. Linda February 16th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    damn i miss JD!! Too bad he cant be out gm!!

    He’s not the GM, he’s the President

  218. MAKO February 16th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Ah finally home & in front of a actual keyboard LOL

    Did I miss anything other than a pathetic 1 – 1 tie so far? How have they played?

    We’re playing like crap. Good shot by Korpo for a goal, but thats it.

  219. Chris, I’ll contribute to that fund!

    Wednesday vs. Islanders should be hilarious! I expect the fans to be pretty vocal, and wonder how many Islander ‘fans’ will be there. Any of you guys going?

  220. # Zhervalev February 16th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I thought he was the President and GM.

    Nop, just El Presidente

  221. haha two straight faceoffs! too bad renney doesnt get a second time out to tell the team to let them score!

  222. “Did I miss anything other than a pathetic 1 – 1 tie so far? How have they played?”

    mind-numbing hockey…then they scored…more mind-numbing hockey…then we scored…The End

  223. Linda February 16th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Chris, I’ll contribute to that fund!

    Wednesday vs. Islanders should be hilarious! I expect the fans to be pretty vocal, and wonder how many Islander ‘fans’ will be there. Any of you guys going?

    Im going.

  224. Matt, i was just wishing that he was our GM instead of Sather. President , GM, who cares, ours totally sucks and he’s both eh!?

  225. ThisYearsModel on

    Ho hum. Can we really have so little talent? Did renney dress Prucha so, instead of sitting him in the pressbox he can mock him by giving him next to no icetime?

  226. Linda February 16th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Matt, i was just wishing that he was our GM instead of Sather. President , GM, who cares, ours totally sucks and he’s both eh!?

    I hate Sather. We should do something like Green Bay, and have the town of New York buy MSG, that way if we want Sather fired, we just yell at the Mayor lol.

  227. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    so how many games does everyone think it’ll take before drury scores or does anything?

  228. When will Renney Bench Naslund??????????????

    Renney is the worst, Naslund is getting extremely lazy!

  229. I also think Redden’s gonna deliver a highlight reel open ice hit… so my credibility is shot.

  230. Callahan’s the only one who drives to the net on the rush. Most of the time, we take it in, dump it, get it back, set up the zone then pass till it gets picked off.

  231. It all starts with Dolan. Dudes oblivious, as long as he has money to count he doesnt care how the teams are doing. I believe he was put on this earth, along with Sather, to destroy the Rangers! They both have triple sixes engraved in their skulls!

    What a slap in the face to Messier that our current captain is such an uninspiring soul! Gomez and Drury are NOT cut out to be team leaders, they are complimentary players. We need a strong, vocal, motivated captain!

  232. Linda February 16th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    It all starts with Dolan. Dudes oblivious, as long as he has money to count he doesnt care how the teams are doing. I believe he was put on this earth, along with Sather, to destroy the Rangers! They both have triple sixes engraved in their skulls!

    What a slap in the face to Messier that our current captain is such an uninspiring soul! Gomez and Drury are NOT cut out to be team leaders, they are complimentary players. We need a strong, vocal, motivated captain!

    We needed Shanahan >.<

  233. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    thats right matt- he is. hes gonna be a leader for this team one day. naslund- ehh another soft euro

  234. ThisYearsModel on

    Crombeen gats the rebound, orders pizza, then puts the game winner in. Nice defensive coverage.

  235. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    such a weak forecheck down by 1 with few minutes left. this is all they can come up with?

  236. all i can say about the last goal, besides our d lookin like the damned rocky statue…. at least the guy looked kinda cute lol!

    So much for Renneys beloved shoot out! Take another penalty Markus!

  237. Sore are u kidding? He was left alone.I’m not watching anymore untill something changes. I’m done money out of dolans pockets the only way well get results

  238. “these blues forecheck ferociously” when is the last time the word ferocious was used in regards to anything the Rangers have done! Nice save Roszival LOL

  239. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    i hate the new york rangers. im done with them until rennys fired and slats is gone. cant stomach it anymore. these players dont hustle. they dont do anything./

  240. Hey guys

    How was Prucha tonight??

    He looks worn out after an excellent job warming up the bench with only 7:58 of ice time. Therefore, he’ll be scratched next game.

  241. “How was Prucha tonight??”

    he was good for the first 6 minutes that he played, he kinda lost steam during that 7th minute though, just as Dr. Renney predicted…a conditioning stint to Hartford would do him some good

  242. TIME FOR A CHANGE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  243. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    unreal. i cant believe this team beat us. were done. this team is not goin anywhere

  244. are you kidding me? Redden out on the ice the last minute of game? Drury on the point?
    well, i guess we are a “2-1 team”. be careful what you ask for Renney, you may just get it.

  245. Who else is laughing that Korpikoski has less ice time than Colton freaking Orr?

    The one guy that scored was practically benched in the 3rd.

  246. whataretheodds? on

    Great job by Renney keeping Prucha and Korps off the ice in the third period.

    I swear to god how does this job?

  247. I can’t wait to read the same excuses:

    Renney- We have to get the powerplay fixed, and that starts with me.

    Drury- Blame it on me, but I am throwing this one in the garbage, its not going to ruin my Tuesday.

    Gomez- This isn’t rock bottom.

  248. Can MSG hire Keith Jones to do real commentary and fire Fishcler as resident “inane Grandfather”.

  249. “the moves that they made”, “personnel issues”, “they’re slow”, etc…

    SAY SATHER’S NAME

  250. ENGLBOM are you freakin kiddin me! is this mind control? How can they BOTH say its not Renney? Its the wrong mix of players, the horrible gm, and our coaching staff who will not bend!

  251. this is absolutely disgusting. i’m not really sure what else to say. i’m done watching ranger games for a week or two, it hurts too much to watch this crap.

    fireeee rennnyyyy cha cha cha-cha-cha

  252. dude…Jones is amazing- cuts the guy off when he asks “can Avery save Renney’s job?” to say “that’s a pipedream”

    dude, is well better than what we hear “on the payroll” too bad versus features bull fighting and pie eating as its other top features….

  253. Chris Drury, another game with a bunch of ugly shots, another minus and he won only 30 percent of his faceoffs.

  254. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    so renny is not to blame huh? everyone likes the guy and yea the team is small, slow, soft, 2nd rate talent. but renny is not pushing them hes not benching key guys. hes done everything else to beat around the bush but do the right things

  255. I love it…who said Aaron Voros looks like the guy in the FreeCreditReports.com singing commercial guy….

    classic.

    makes me laugh, even when the rangers lose

  256. “Instead of Potvin Sucks, should i do a Sather Sucks chant Wednesday?”

    yes…we wanna hear MSG on Wednesday…mix in a “FIRE SATHER!”/”FIRE RENNEY!” chant too, and make Redden’s life miserable every time he touches the puck

  257. Bud Harrelson, Jeff Torborg, Rich Kotite, and Brian Trottier were all good guys who should have kept their jobs too. Give me a break. Renney couldn’t motivate an 8 year old pee wee team

  258. Hold on here fellas- let’s get this out there in the open:

    hate Renney or not- this is a team that never could have been all that good…

    say it with me: Sather.

    You can fire Renney on principle….but that doesn’t change the guy calling the personnel decisions…

  259. jonesy was disappointing tonight. I expected something more from him, not just absolving Renney of the teams problems!

  260. What can be said that hasn’t been said a thousand times, Ranger management is flaunting its contempt for its fans. The entire organization is diseased and needs to be gutted. The fans deserve better than this. How Renney is still coaching is totally absurd.

  261. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I was guessing Pru got 6 minutes all game but I really think I am off by a lot. Did he even touch the ice in the 3rd? What about Korp? WHY IS VOROS STILL IN THE NHL?? I thoroughly enjoyed watching him take a beating. Why is he on the PP? Renney is an nd a real piece of garbage of a human being. I mean that. He should be rotting in a landfill somewhere.

  262. Well Im glad I missed most of the game. Same sh!t different game.

    Mark
    9:33

    You are SOOOOOOOOOOO right LOL

  263. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    you know vwhat? renny sucks but hed do a lot better with pittsburghs roster than therrien did

  264. again, with a good coach, we’re right up there with the Devils….same roster, better coaching, we’re neck and neck for the division lead

  265. fire him now ! on

    that’s what you call sucking up. Renney acts nice to all the media guys, who then turn around and defend his ass against all odds. disgraceful.

    Versus should be called Gutless.

    1 win in the last 9 games. and they have been outscored 33-13

  266. Im going try to start the “Boo Redden Every Time he touches the puck” thing. But Sather/Renney sucks should be easy. Potvin can get a good night sleep Wednesday.

  267. The Isles are going to destroy us on Wednesday. As bad as they are, the kids on that team hustle, and it won’t hurt them that we’ll make MacDonald or Danis look like Roy.

  268. Doodie Machetto on

    I don’t even know what to say. Don’t want to blame Renney? Explain why Sjostrom was out there when they pulled the goalie, why Korpikoski and Prucha barely saw the ice, why Redden is STILL on the PP, etc.

    Voros getting his ass handed to him was my favorite moment of the season.

  269. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    What the Garden needs is “WE WANT PRUCHA” chants mixed in there. Especially if he’s benched for 90% of the game.

  270. ThisYearsModel on

    Another 1 period effort. Outworked again the rest of the way. Good think we were able to keep that terrible Korpikoski off the ice in the 3rd period in favor of the 4th line.

  271. Ho hum. Another day another dollar for Drury, Gomez, Reden, and Roszival. At least we don’t have to suffer through the Renney post game press conference tonight.

  272. Enough hysterai totally objective this team looks old the funny thing is they are not.

    I did not look at the minutes but renny did not give the Korpikoski line any time! Why..

    Roszival did not have a good game and Naslund looks 45 yrs old..I was hoping this piece of crap team could hang on to OT but nope big rebound, bad communication between Roszival and Staal no one on the weakside and ballgame..

    really anyone think when it was 2 to 1 they were coming back? I was thinking they should trade the likes of kalinan, voros, and many others but the bottom line is no one would want them, that is SATHERS FAULT.

    Renny shortened the bench tonight but sat the wrong guys again….

  273. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I have the pic of Voros getting thrown down by Bradley from last week saved as my desktop on my computer. It’s under the yahoo images of him… really embarrassing. From the last shittsburgh game there was one of Crosby throwing pushing him down that was even more embarrassing.

  274. MiamiPimp,
    His comments about tonights game is ” We will have to go back to square one and back to the clipboard” oh yeah thats how we will win. Time to go Tom “Square Foolery” Renney

  275. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    trueblue-agree. sather assembled these guys and renny cant coach for but still, this is sather everyone. renny gets fired, then what? id rather see sather try dumping some of these ridiculous contracts instead

  276. Please please pretty please let me hear “fire renny” and “fire sather” as loud as you can against the piles… its going to be the ONLY reason I watch the game.

  277. Hey I got it— Is there a grassy knowle and a book depository near MSG cause thats what its gonna take to get rid of Yeti( thanks Linda ) and Clueless

  278. Ford,

    You are completely right with your assessment that Gomez and Naslund have no chemistry, it’s really pathetic watching them. However, I find the problem with Gomez, I mean, nobody ever seems to find chemistry with the guy.

    Renney, the Prucha Duby and Z line was great before…dont change something that looked promising and replace Naslund with Korpo on Gomez’s line.

    Staal seems to be regressing like the rest of the defensive corp.

  279. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    its not just dru n gomer who have sucked. doobs, staal, sometimes hank, naslund and zherdev have all been horrible. thats when u need a true leader on the team whether its a player or coach and we dont have one to rally these guys.

  280. fire him now ! on

    these joke announcers who have no problem with the firing of Therrien, because they did not like him. but those same guys defend that piece of crap Renney, because he is “nice”

    Leo Durocher said it best.

  281. Sundin's Ghost on

    Renney must go already. Teflon Tom is completely unable to do anything to motivate this team, ever. The players quite obviously don’t like him and/or the way he coaches, as they’ve been mailing it in for a month now. He punishes them, they play terribly. He rewards them, they play terribly. They just don’t listen to him and I’d be willing to bet cash money some of them are purposely tanking to get him fired. Gomez, especially. Rumors of the dislike between the two of them are far and wide.

    Everyone in the hockey world knows Renney has no control over this team except Glen Sather and all of Tom’s buddies in the media.

  282. “The Isles are going to destroy us on Wednesday. As bad as they are, the kids on that team hustle, and it won’t hurt them that we’ll make MacDonald or Danis look like Roy.”

    i never thought i’d see the day that a Rangers fan would make a comment like that, and that I’d agree with it!

    I am seriously NOT goin to the gym Wednesday just so i can see that game from start to finish! It is going to be brutal, because the fans are going to be going ballistic (have fun MATT K) and we all know how nervous grown men/millionaires are when they play at home!

  283. i watched to see prucha, but the moment i saw he was going to play with voros i knew he would do nothing. gotta love renney setting up prucha to fail…at least he is consistent with that and our bad pp

    thoughts on the game chris? still think renney is top 5 in the league? he got outcoached and his players got outplayed by an ahl team

    and anyone thinking of adding tkachuk b4 the deadline should save their draft picks, he looked mediocre as ever

  284. Korpi – 8:36
    Prucha – 7:56

    Redden leads with 24:02 in ice time. HAHAHAH Renney your effing pathetic – how the
    do you sleep at night?

  285. fire him now ! on

    even Stevie Wonder could see that the vets on the team have quit on Renney.

    what does it take for someone to realize that.

  286. yes it is sather who assembled this mediocre group of guys… but the bottom line is for some reason they were winning in the first half of the season. we all know they are capable of winning, and we all know that a coach who REFUSES to bench players that give 0 effort (see gomez, redden, naslund) and blames all of our problems on 2 of our most energetic players (the players that bring the spark that we need when they are allowed to). Yea, lets bench the guys that are playing the best… i mean come on, they don’t get paid as much as redden and gomez, so obviously they get benched first right?

    Bottom line is Sather is going nowhere, the lineup doesn’t have any big changes coming, and renny seems to have lost his mind. Only possible solution? tell renny to get packing

  287. Please, Renney fans, explain the on ice deployment tonight. Korpi? Prucha? Z? Chris, tell me how this was “top 5″ stuff. Honestly.

  288. I don’t understand why everyone continues to hate on Redden…he’s been one of the best Rangers on the ice for the past few weeks. He was on the ice for 0 of the 7 goals the Rangers have allowed in the past 2 games, not to mention he assisted on both goals vs. Philly.

    Naslund has been consistently the worst players on the ice of late for the Rangers…

  289. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    I’m only watching on Wednesday if Prucha is in… those are the only games I’ve watched since Graves night. But if he’s not I will be listening for the chants… just playing Xbox instead. Can we please hear “WE WANT PRU-CHA!” chants to let them know why renney needs to be fired?

    Does anyone know if you can fire your coach in NHL 09?

    or lock him in the your trunk and push your car off a bridge?

  290. “i havnt seen a PP that bad in years perry”…”i know tom… but can you please pass the giggle drops…maybe get me like a bowl or something”

  291. It is absolute B.S that Korpedo didn’t or hardly saw any ice time after he scored his goal. Renney just trots out the same old TIRED players out there while players like Korpedo and Prucha have been playing good.

    I mean, god, it’s the same B.S game after game. Why can’t he give the players that play hard more ice time?

    I think it’s absolutely DISGUSTING that Korpedo wasn’t given more ice time after his goal. How long did Prucha play? He was hardly out there.

    Renney is a joke.

    Did anyone see his pre-game interview with Bill Harwood?

    “We need to stay the course” F you Renney!!!

    http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p154/nyr2007/stuff/GLENANDTOM.jpg?t=1234728294

  292. Want to watch a well coached team playing hard for a playoff spot…watch Hitchcock’s Blue Jackets….

    Not only has Tyuten stepped up from being an Ok defenseman to a very good one ( under a smart coach) but frickin Christian Backman takes a regular shift and hardly ever looks like the bumbling fool we all thought he was here…its amazing..Backman plays killing penalties!!!!

    jackets lost 3-2 in a shootout but played their asses off against a team that beat the Rangers 10 to 2

    Fire this coaching staff already!!!

  293. Sundin's Ghost on

    Petr Prucha will be working at a Prague Burger King within 5 years. He sucks, and the sooner some of you with a crush on him realize this, the better off you’ll be.

  294. I actually watched the Islanders today for the first time outside of when they play the Rangers, and those young kids are going to turn into solid players. They don’t have a lot of talent, but Gordon seems to get the best out of them night in and night out. Okposo is going to be a stud.

  295. Tell me if I am wacky….The Rangers, if there were no cap, could spend more than most teams correct? Sort of Yankee like in spending if necessary (not 100’s of millions but in hockey terms).. So what is stopping them from just waiving Rosi and Redden and letting them stew in Hartford for 4-6 years. Free’s up plenty in cap space. Waive Voros as well…useless scarecrow….if you can trade all the better…but not likely. I don’t know what then goes against cap, but who cares I don’t think it does if they pass through waivers.. Dolan makes a mint off the Rangers I am sure. If my thinking is correct and they do not do something to change the chemisty of this team, then it is clear they could not care less about the fans…and winning. But only the almighty bottom line.
    But tonight was a clear game where Avery would have made a difference. If Sather tries playing chicken and loses him…well

  296. Its a shame what this management staff has done to the Rangers…
    This team should be sellers at the deadline..not buyers…but whats worse is that who the hell would want any of these guys now??

  297. fire him now ! on

    right, Sundin’s ghost. and Naslund has obviously quit too. he has made comments in the papers questioning Renney’s system. and he is playing like crap. I think he took that penalty on purpose.

  298. Where are the Renney favs, maybe someone should request to place them on a milk carton under MISSING

  299. Mike in IA

    You watched those highlights too? Yeah I was saying to myself you would never see ANY of those plays by Rangers players.

    Mark
    Gotta agree with you. I think in the next few year the Islanders are going to be a good team. I would actually rather watch them, at least they are winning. Beat the Pens today too….

  300. Chanting FIRE RENNEY and FIRE SATHER won’t do a thing to changes things with the Rangers, just make all you a-holes feel better about yourselves!! If Sather fires Renney, he then has to pick the next coach. And he did such a great job hiring Trottier instead of Tippett & Hitchcock, who were both interested!! Face fans, we are stuck with this mess and you can eitehr watch it or not!! It does reflect on Renney that he shortened his bench in the 3rd and kept the (potential) scorers on teh bench in favor of the 4th line! He has to play Redden because who is gonna step up and play better??? He obviously doesn’t have faith in Staal in the last minute & Rozy is always hesitant to shoot; still looking for Jagr along the side boards!

  301. NYR351

    Redden has zero 5-on-4 PP points since November. ZERO. And you want to know why people are dogging him.

  302. All Hail King Henrik on

    Voros got his ass handed to him by Janssen, I had a feeling that was going to happen. Too bad Cam won’t man up and fight Orr. Orr should’ve sought Janssen out after he embaressed Voros like that.

    I’m suprised more people (commentators/anouncers/reportors) don’t mention how Girardi’s game has completely gone to sh_t since he was paired with Redden in late November. Girardi was like 2nd in D-man scoring before they were paired, he’s dropped clear off the charts since.

  303. i dont think anyone here thinks prucha is going to rescue this team, but at least he hustles and plays likes he gives a crap. more than i can say about gomez, drury, redden, roszi, naslund, voro….i could keep going

  304. whataretheodds? on

    Anyone going to the game Wednesday, I want to hear loud and clear “Fire Renney” and “Fire Sather” chants.

    I want to hear it over Sam and Joe.

  305. its not voros’s fault, he doesnt provide much more than what he shows ( i mean he could be trying, he just doesn’t move very much)

  306. sather assembled this team. renney cant coach this team. sad thing is this is our team for next 4-5 years. no one would take any of these guys

  307. 5 Rangers played less than 10 minutes tonight. Only one for St Louis and that was Cam Roid man who had 3 but made more of an impact that half the boys in blue. If you are not going to play who is on your bench then why dress them.

  308. if that is true and renney has more faith in redden than staal then its glue factory time for renney, let him coach the checkers, more his speed and he will impress every one with his fancy talk down there. i almost choked when i heard one of the announcers say renney told them the players had to improve their compete level…..what does that mean?

  309. whataretheodds?
    February 16th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
    Anyone going to the game Wednesday, I want to hear loud and clear “Fire Renney” and “Fire Sather” chants.

    I want to hear it over Sam and Joe.

    I will be there

  310. 94Obsession, that picture was great.

    Anyone hear any post game comments anywhere?

    Kurt…may the YETI be with you

  311. Voice of Reason on

    So Korpikoski has scored 3 goals in 4 games… How much ice time did he get in the last 10 minutes of the third period?

    Why wasn’t he on the ice at the end of the game? What has Naslund done lately?

  312. ford…

    that’s great…neither have a lot of other players…

    he’s +2 in the past 2 games…without checking, I’m pretty sure there are few (if any) other Rangers who fit in that category. I’m not calling him the messiah, but come on…booing every time he touches the puck is wayyy overdoing it. It’s not his fault Rangers management outbid themselves by a lot for him.

  313. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    That’s true that the FIRE RENNEY! FIRE SATHER chants won’t do anything. Ownership doesn’t care as long as you bought your seat and buy concessions and merchandise, they make their money on the suckers.

    It doesn’t mean it isn’t fun, though.

  314. All Hail King Henrik on

    Ya know, if Tampa got Dallas to take on Brad Richards $7.8 mil. contract (and Tampa got their No. 1 Mike Smith in return), there has to be someone out there that would take some of these contracts off of our hands. The returns aren’t going to be anything great, but even as horrible as our high paid guys have been, they’re all not completely unmoveable.

    Redden is untradeable and should be sent to the A immediately on a one-way ticket. However, Rozsival is certainly tradeable. We won’t get anything great in return, but someone (like say, Columbus who is desperately trying to make the playoffs for the first time ever) will take on his $5 mil per season. He’s a 45-50 point puck-moving D, someone will trade for that.

    I’m sure there are teams that would take on Gomez as well, despite the terrible year he is having.

    Drury might be hard to move and I don’t see the Rangers ever trading the “captain”, even in the event of a firesale.

    Firesale…everything must go! (Retain Hank, Staal, Dubi, Cally, Korpedo, Zherdev and Orr as an enforcer).

  315. Sather answer my prayers for tomorrow when I turn on the TV or listen to 1050 ESPN and I hope to hear ” The Rangers have fired Tom Renney” , I hope this comes true by tomorrow

  316. onecupin67years on

    There was no sense of urgency in the rangers tonight.. they out skated , out hustled and muscled for the upteenth time.

    Hockey central defended Renney,isnt 5 years enuff?

    another awful performance

  317. I would not blame any of the young Rangers for wanting out. they don’t want to have to spend the next few years of their careers with the crappy bigname, so called leaders, on this team dogging it for multi million dolllar paychecks.

  318. onecupin67years on

    I think Sather will fire renney when the rangers are in 9th place,which should be by Sunday, I hope.
    A bonus would be sather getting canned too.

  319. All Hail,

    as far as teams wanting anyone…

    They just picked a really bad time to go score 13 goals in 9 games; a bad time to show that they were never a good defensive team like all the talking heads said they were…it was all Hank!!

    The jig is up…

    And why would Dallas, playing really good, take on any big contract to get rid of Avery? Some people think this might actually happen. Why would they do that?

  320. “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it.”
    – Mark Twain (regarding Renney)

  321. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “”Kaspar February 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Want to watch a well coached team playing hard for a playoff spot…watch Hitchcock’s Blue Jackets….

    Not only has Tyuten stepped up from being an Ok defenseman to a very good one ( under a smart coach) but frickin Christian Backman takes a regular shift and hardly ever looks like the bumbling fool we all thought he was here…its amazing..Backman plays killing penalties!!!!

    jackets lost 3-2 in a shootout but played their asses off against a team that beat the Rangers 10 to 2

    Fire this coaching staff already!!!””

    Good post,Kaspar. I always believe in Toots when he was here and I think this Ranger team missed him in a big way. Christian Backman is doing good in Columbus that is damning on our coaching staff. The idiots that do the Versus game were saying how Renney is a good coach and deserves to keep his job. It’s funny. They were saying the same thing about Therrien a couple of weeks ago.

  322. Brad RIchards is a plyer, yea he is overpaid but he can play.

    lori and prucha under 9 minutes, sjustrom 13 minutes, zherdev was invisible tonight.

    check out the minutes allocation, what did korpi due to get so few minutes? Prucha(same old dame old)..

    Really what purpose does Voros satisfy? A mill a yr. bury him in Hartford why does it take 60 games to figure that one out????Really give me a break…

  323. “If we don’t succeed, we run the risk of failure.”

    – Dan Quayle, former U.S. Vice President, quoting Tom Renney

  324. Forcrissakes

    All these announcers are ex-coaches and GMs who couldnt get it done..now they announce to anyone who wants to hear that all coaches are good and not to blame..I’m watching one of these right now…this circumsized headed Pierre mcguirre doing the Oiler game…where both MacT and Gretzky are doing excellent jobs playing.500 hockey!!

  325. Sather has to get fired for letting Renney coach this long,Also for get the fire renney and sather chants just cheer for the islanders,
    oh ya one more thing DEFEND RENNEY NOW BEER ME YOU DOUCH,,,,,,

  326. Brandon Tierney on 1050 defending Renney. I like Brandon, but he knows nothing about hockey. Talks hockey for about 5 minutes a month. Stick to what you know please.

  327. Breaking News:

    “Wade Redden snorts one too many lines after the conclusion of the St. Louis Blues game, and is rushed to the hospital, with Renney at his side. Renney was asked if Redden would be able to play next game, “Well, he has been doing this all year, so I don’t see why.”

    Source: Pablo Escobar

  328. Stuart
    February 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
    Brad RIchards is a plyer, yea he is overpaid but he can play.

    lori and prucha under 9 minutes, sjustrom 13 minutes, zherdev was invisible tonight.

    check out the minutes allocation, what did korpi due to get so few minutes? Prucha(same old dame old)..

    Really what purpose does Voros satisfy? A mill a yr. bury him in Hartford why does it take 60 games to figure that one out????Really give me a break

    Brad Richards out in definitely with a broken wrist

  329. …sorry its some other idiots doing the Oiler game…Mcguirre is doing the Senators game…he has no comments on Craig hartsburg being fired and Sens doing MUCH BETTER

  330. Tom Foolery
    February 16th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
    Brandon Tierney on 1050 defending Renney. I like Brandon, but he knows nothing about hockey. Talks hockey for about 5 minutes a month. Stick to what you know please.

    He probably got a free pair of tickets to Wednesdays game courtesy of J.Dolan

  331. All Hail King Henrik on

    Kaspar,

    That is true. (on picking a bad time to completely s__t the bed as a team). I still think they could find takers for some of these contracts, even if it means sweetening the pot with a few picks and prospects not named AA, Grachev or DZ.

    P.S.

    I don’t see Dallas taking any contracts back in a trade for Avery, and certainly no big contracts (like Rozi or Redden).

  332. Just got back from watching the game at my friend’s: Zzzzzzzzzz what a boring effort. They can’t score more than one goal against the MIGHTY St. Louis Blues who are without Johnson and Brewer?

    I’ll say it again for the zillionth time; there is no reason that Anisimov and Sanguinetti or Sauer should not be up with the Rangers at this point. Can they do any worse than the losers playing all the top minutes? Even JD promoted these young kids who have played ok for the Blues.

    I’ve been a Renney supporter since the beginning of 05-06 when he had that fun team, but to be fair and unbiased, I’m off the bandwagon now. Time for a change. Give it to Schoenfeld or Gernander and in the offseason interview Laviolette/Torts/Quinn/Gernander for the job opening. I’d love to keep Renney on but this team needs an S.O.B. behind the bench.

  333. In all seriousness, Korpedo has more goals in the past 4 games than Drury and Gomez combined in the last 10. So why doesnt he have more ice time? Voros who are you kidding, stop trying to fight, because its obvious you are worse than Dubi at fighting and thats pretty bad. FIRE SATHER! Even though that will not happen anytime soon.

  334. “I’m the decider, and I decide what is best. And what’s best is for Redden to remain as the Secretary of Defense.” –President Renney

  335. Voice of Reason on

    Hey Tom and Glen:

    Want to shake things up a bit?

    Call up Brett Hull and have the Stars Avery through re entry waivers tomorrow. When he clears Wednesday, claim him.

    The same day put Wade Redden on waivers. When nobody claims him tell him he can really try or he can enjoy the bus rides in Hartford. Give him two games. If he knows he’ll be demoted, it might light a fire under his backside.

    Try these lines against the Islanders Wednesday Night:

    Korpikoski Gomez Callahan
    Avery Dubinsky Prucha
    Sjostrom Betts Zherdev
    Naslund Drury Orr

    I think we’d all see an amazing/exciting effort, with skating, hitting and even some scoring…

    Drury and Naslund will likely do nothing with Orr…Just like they’ve done with everyone else lately….

  336. all one has to do is listen to the TV talking heads, the media, etc.

    they all agree. poor little Renney is completely blameless in all this.

    yeah, and the captain of the Titanic just had bad passengers.

  337. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “jcl206 February 16th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Renney, the Prucha Duby and Z line was great before…dont change something that looked promising and replace Naslund with Korpo on Gomez’s line.

    Staal seems to be regressing like the rest of the defensive corp.”

    He juggles the lines for the sake of juggling, obviously. Whenever a line combo clicks, Renney can’t wait to break them up. FRUSTRATING!!!

  338. “Im going try to start the “Boo Redden Every Time he touches the puck” thing. ”

    No need, Matt. Started already on Sunday. It can only get worse from here.

  339. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “”joe February 16th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    all one has to do is listen to the TV talking heads, the media, etc.

    they all agree. poor little Renney is completely blameless in all this.

    yeah, and the captain of the Titanic just had bad passengers.””

    Ha ha!! Good one, Joe!

  340. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! at 10:09

    You speak the truth, the plain hard-to-avoid-unless-avoiding-the-truth-is-your-agenda truth. (i’m a bit winded after all that hyphenation)

  341. onecupin67years on

    we’re stuck with big contracts…its too bad , because if pittsburgh continues to lose for a couple of years attendance will fall and Crosby will want out and wouldn’t it be great to get him. Redden rozsival and crosby on the PP

  342. I have reason to believe that “Fatso” Brodeur while on the IR he took up a hobby while walking around the streets of Newark, Voodoo and he probably curse the Rangers season and brainwashed Shanahan to re-sign with the Debbies.

  343. On Ottawa

    One of the ESPN writers ( i think Frie) ripped Craig hartsburg a couple of weeks before he got canned…something like “there’s no law that says all 4 lines have to trap!..You have Alfreddson Heatley and Spezza what’ya trapping for?..Let them do what theyre good at and let Fischer and Neil and Foligno trap!”
    he didnt
    they sucked
    he’s fired
    they’re winning

  344. I want these lines for Wed against Islanders:

    Dubi-Gomez-Naslund
    Drury-Anisimov-Zherdev
    Prucha-Korpi-Cally
    Sjo-Betts-Orr

    On D:
    Staal-Roszival
    Girardi-Sanguinetti/Sauer
    Redden-Kalinin (gets least amount of ice time)

    In Goal:
    Valley
    Lundquvist

  345. Yep

    Ottawa – who says firing a coach mid season wouldnt work. Hey it was worth a try. Glad to see the Sens responding….

  346. swizzle81 February 16th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Breaking News:

    “Wade Redden snorts one too many lines after the conclusion of the St. Louis Blues game, and is rushed to the hospital, with Renney at his side. Renney was asked if Redden would be able to play next game, “Well, he has been doing this all year, so I don’t see why.”

    Source: Pablo Escobar

    That brought back memories of the miserable Rangers of the late 90s. Wasnt it in St Louis that Kevin Stevens was discovered with cocaine or something in a hotel room? That was the end of his hockey career.

  347. I’m pretty sure at this point Renney has to want to get fired to be doing all the things I have read here, since I did not have a chance to watch the game:
    • Redden leading in ice time
    • Orr having more ice time than Korpikoski
    • Voros on the power play, not Prucha

  348. onecupin67years on

    let’s hope we hear a vote of confidence from msg for Renney and Sather,a sure sign that the axe will follow.

  349. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “”Kaspar February 16th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Forcrissakes

    All these announcers are ex-coaches and GMs who couldnt get it done..now they announce to anyone who wants to hear that all coaches are good and not to blame..I’m watching one of these right now…this circumsized headed Pierre mcguirre doing the Oiler game…where both MacT and Gretzky are doing excellent jobs playing.500 hockey!!””

    LMAO @ circumcized head Pierre McGuire! :D

  350. Spiderpig February 16th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    I’m pretty sure at this point Renney has to want to get fired to be doing all the things I have read here, since I did not have a chance to watch the game:
    • Redden leading in ice time
    • Orr having more ice time than Korpikoski
    • Voros on the power play, not Prucha
    *****************************************************

    Spderpig
    If you did anything short of working in a turd-pit you had more enjoyment than watching the Ranger game

  351. Spiderpig
    February 16th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
    I’m pretty sure at this point Renney has to want to get fired to be doing all the things I have read here, since I did not have a chance to watch the game:
    • Redden leading in ice time
    • Orr having more ice time than Korpikoski
    • Voros on the power play, not Prucha

    You did the right thing by not watching that game since it was televised on Versus , what a joke

  352. not to change the subject from Renney needing to get the ax but I have the Oiler-Phoenix game on ( yea, I’m that bored) and the place in Phoenix is maybe half full….NHL has issues man

  353. I’ve been a Renney supporter up until now. This stretch of games could have put us in a tie or better with NJ.

    In the last 9 games we had a golden opportunity to beat up on crap teams (Atl & Stl) and establish ourselves against future possible playoff opponents (Bos, NJ, Wash, Pitt, Fla,& Phi) all while controlling our own destiny by having the chance to catch up in the standings by beating division rivals.

    What do we do ?? …… play to a 1-6-2 record over those nine games. This is not acceptable and should wait no longer to make moves. Montreal and Pittsburgh are wasting no time and making the hard decisions to improve the team before it gets any worse.

    We should be doing the same

  354. “LMAO @ circumcized head Pierre McGuire! :D’

    Forcrissakes

    The guy should just shave his two eyebrows and complete the look….

  355. jcl-Naw Stevens played a few more years with the Pens and Flyers. Remember when they reunited the Lemieux-Jagr-Stevens line in 02?

    Renney is acting a lot like Willy Randolph in his final days as Mets manager, it’s almost eerie.

    By the way, to go from one depressing topic to the next, look at what is left of Shea Stadium:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJu2UJbhn08

    Go to the 53 second mark for a cool demolition.

  356. not to change the subject from Renney needing to get the ax but I have the Oiler-Phoenix game on ( yea, I’m that bored) and the place in Phoenix is maybe half full….NHL has issues man

    Yeah, starting with putting a team in Phoenix

  357. All Hail King Henrik on

    Onecup,

    Pitt would trade Malkin before they trade Cindy. They’ll never trade little Cindy. I’d rather get Malkin anyways. I could definitely see Malkin coming to the Rangers in 4 years when his contract is up to the tune of a ridiculous 10 year $9.7 mil per season contract or something like that.

    He’d probably put up 25-35-60 for that money, haha.

  358. Hey is there any fuggin reason why Gomez and Redden wear shoulder pads? I mean I can’t remember the last time either of them hit anything.

  359. At least for Renney’s sake as well as the Rangers, they will not have to worry about the Sports Headline for tomorrow since this town is more interested in Baseball Players taking roids 6 years ago, Hello A-Rod.

  360. All Hail King Henrik on

    It likely won’t ever happen, but Rangers’ fans–would you do it?

    Dubi, Zherdev, Naslund, Mara, Sanguinetti 1st ’09, 1st & 3rd ’10

    For

    Malkin, Whitney

    I’d do it.

  361. One Cup and All Hail-I’m gonna beat my dead horse again; you want Malkin? He’ll come here especially if he has Zherdev, Anisimov, Grachev, etc. to play with. Just be patient and let these kids become the face of the franchise.

    I’d rather see a hopping arena in Winnipeg, problem is that franchise wasn’t that great. They lost their two biggest stars to the Rangers in the late 70s (Nilson, Hedberg) and Bobby Hull was old. Still, better than Phoenix where icing is solely something people put on birthday cakes.

  362. I should add this…and I don’t care what anyone says.
    Redden drags Girardi down,
    Rozi drags Staal down,
    and though I don’t like the way Renney is coaching this team…In my mind this is 80% Sathers fault. I watch this team and I can’t believe what I’m seeing…how did Sather ever think this team would even compete on paper…

  363. All Hail King Henrik
    February 16th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
    It likely won’t ever happen, but Rangers’ fans—would you do it?

    Dubi, Zherdev, Naslund, Mara, Sanguinetti 1st ‘09, 1st & 3rd ‘10

    For

    Malkin, Whitney

    I’d do it.

    Maybe we can include Redden in that deal and they can throw in the Penguins mascot

  364. i would definitely consider trading draft picks for current young stars because sather has no idea how to draft

  365. Domi-People in this town care more about who Jeter is sleeping with, what underwear Giambi wore, and how many pornos Matsui has in his collection than the NHL; it’s sad but true dude.

  366. CLASSIC Renney quotes:

    -“I’m not ready to wave the white flag on . We will have better nights than tonight.”

    -“I’m thinking I’d better not make an emotional comment. I’ll just sit down and think it through and do what’s appropriate.”

    -“This is one of our less disciplined nights this season. We’ve been noted for gaining respect from our opponents, and we don’t want that to slip away.”

    -“And we want to win in a way that suggests to anybody that plays this team beyond this year, that you’d better check in and know how the Rangers are playing because that’s what you’re going to have to live up to. That’s what we’re trying to develop here.”

  367. Doodie Machetto on

    “Dubi, Zherdev, Naslund, Mara, Sanguinetti 1st ‘09, 1st & 3rd ‘10

    For

    Malkin, Whitney

    I’d do it.”

    Are you kidding? That deal wouldn’t even work in EA Sports.

  368. Miami Pimp

    did he say that stuff tonite????

    If he did, he is Colonel Kurtz and he has truly gone insane’ very much insane

  369. onecupin67years on

    I would entertain any trade ,for any ranger, if it made the rangers better. I would trade anybody.

  370. “Matsui has Godzilla/ Rhodan porno……”

    and mike, you thought my redden gliding into his man word picture was disturbing!

    Godzilla and Rhodan, my childhood has been ruined now lol!

  371. This is what stinks about MSG not having not even a postgame show, but what happened to their MSG sportsdesk. I want to here the players and Renney spit their excuses, but we don’t get them with Versus and NBC.

  372. I once was a Renney fan too. But he has been revealed not just for having no game-managing sense, no feel for the hot player, no ability to fix a pathetic PP (which if even halfway decent would mean 8 more points in the standings) but for also being delusional.

    “We’ve been noted for gaining respect from our opponents, and we don’t want that to slip away.”

    Hunh? This team has been cake to play against since before Thanksgiving, and the whole league knows it. But much worse this this quote:

    “And we want to win in a way that suggests to anybody that plays this team beyond this year, that you’d better check in and know how the Rangers are playing because that’s what you’re going to have to live up to. That’s what we’re trying to develop here.”

    THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT OF HIS SPEECHES FROM THE FALL OF 2005!! THIS IS A SPEECH YOU MAKE WHEN YOU TAKE A JOB, NOT WHEN YOU ARE RAPIDLY DOING EVEYRTHING IN YOUR POWER TO LOSE IT.

  373. Mark-Bring back Bob Page! I hope that guy’s still alive. He was awesome.

    Linda-My childhood has already been ruined when my friend showed me the Howard Stern On Demand episode with the Iron Sheik from WWF cursing out everyone and George Takai from Star Trek making out with a guy. I know he’s gay and I have no problems with that, but with Sheik going nuts and Takai going all out..it was a lot to take in.

    Then I saw that Mickey Rourke movie Angel Heart with Lisa Bonet’s “scene” (pretty awesome I gotta admit hehe) and one of my female friend’s told me about Dustin Diamond’s (Screech From Saved By The Bell’s) adult film…..so yes, my childhood has been WRECKED. :(

    Hey, at least Mothra wasn’t in Matsui’s film :)P

  374. rick. i agree with your assessment. and i appreciate your honesty since you came on board. renney stepped into a bad situation. sather is a pipe smoking country club kind of guy. he wasn’t always that way, but along the road he became a “regular”. anyway, i wish a true owner would come along like ted leonsis of the capitals and buy the rangers. only then will they become a good team. starts from the ownership guys. i have been a rangers fan since i was very young. season ticket holder to the caps for a year because i love hockey. can’t help but say the rangers are run like a second hand s-hole. i hope they build around guys like cally and dubi and staal.

    steve… pure ranger red white and blue forever

  375. We are terrible. Can we trade Redden for Dale Purinton? How about Rich Pilon? Is Kasparitis around? Is Brian Leetch having any kids soon?

  376. MikeA..

    that was a horrible story…I think the Screech part was the worst! At least Mothra (as you mentioned) and Gamera have not been soiled! I’ll never look at my Godzilla action figure with roar the same again!!!!!

    Wonder twin powers..activate.

  377. All Hail King Henrik on

    “Doodie Machetto

    Are you kidding? That deal wouldn’t even work in EA Sports.”

    Perhaps, perhaps not. Did I say the deal was a surefire thing? No, I’m pretty sure I prefaced the comment with “likely to never happen”.

    HOWEVER, there are lots of rumors going around that the Pens may deal Malkin to get scoring wingers for Cindy, and Whitney has not been playing great according to pens fans.

    It was a hypothetical question.

    Whitney might sway the deal a little too much in our favor, but I think you’re highly overvaluing the return Malkin would bring.

    Pens get a 3rd line center to replace J. Staal in Dubi; Naslund and Zherdev as wingers for Cindy (which is better than what he’s played with all season), our top defensive prospect in Sanguinetti, Mara which apperantly they were targeting in the off-season, and TWO first round picks.

    How much more do you think it’s going to take?

    Honestly, don’t even reply to this post as I simply posed a hypothetical and do not wish to argue this further.

  378. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/powerranking
    man are they dead on about our team. we suck. we have these terrible contracts that will hand cuff us for 3-4 years. i dont see us making the playoffs for atleast that time. Even if sather gets fired how do we get out of this? Who will take these disgusting contracts (gomez, drury, REDDEN, even Rozi and the “king”.. who looks more like a queen lately.. and now AVERY? what 10 goals a season will save us? Where is Shanny? oh yeah thats right playing for the New Jersey Devils… who by the way are number one on the attached power rankings.. i see them winning the cup this year.

  379. PruBelongsOnTheIce on

    MikeA: “Prucha-Korpi-Cally”

    That would be an exciting line to watch, for all of the 5 minutes of ice time that renney gives them.

  380. The team is just delusional now:

    Tom Renney: “This was a winnable game for us. I think we gave St. Louis something to think about. I thought they had to elevate their level of intensity because of how we were playing them. We lost the game on two faceoffs.”

    Scott Gomez: “It could’ve gone either way. I think the effort from everyone was there. It was a smart road game, back to back. We just came up short. The past week, we felt pretty tight on the stick. We’ve got to go back to having fun. You’re not going to help a teammate if you’re gripping your stick.”

    Some better quotes from Staal and Henrik over on Andrew’s blog, but here is the link I don’t want to post his whole story.

    http://njmg.typepad.com/rangersblog/2009/02/live-blog-rangers-at-st-louis-216.html#more

  381. Those quotes alone should tell us all we need to know about the mindset of this team…

    They really are happy with mediocrity…and quite delusional as well. GAVE ST. LOUIS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT??? Like what?? How there are teams in the NHL that are WORSE than them???????

  382. This is from tonight, and it is outright astonishing how low Renney wants to set the bar.

    “We got four power-play shots, which might not sound like a lot,” Renney said. “But for us, that’s an accomplishment. We had traffic, the shots were intelligent shots, so what we’re doing right now is trying to rebuild our foundation if you will.”

    So we’re not necessarily trying to score on the power play as much as we are looking to rebuild a foundation. So the four shots with no goals are actually part of the plan. And the plan is good. It is intelligent, this plan. It is an accomplishment, this plan of mine I have planned with intelligence and a plan. If you will.

  383. OK now I want to effing kill this loser all over again now:

    “I think we gave St. Louis something to think about.”

    I-think-we-gave-St.-Louis-something-to-think-about. What a loser what a loser what a loser. Only a loser thinks like this, only a complete and total loser. Can anyone in their right mind possibly disagree?!?!?

  384. “We got four power-play shots, which might not sound like a lot,” Renney said. “But for us, that’s an accomplishment. We had traffic, the shots were intelligent shots, so what we’re doing right now is trying to rebuild our foundation if you will.”

    translation=

    it’s training camp in mid-season

  385. “We got four power-play shots, which might not sound like a lot,” Renney said. “But for us, a boy’s team in a man’s league, that’s an accomplishment. We had traffic, the shots were intelligent shots, so what we’re doing right now is trying to rebuild our foundation if you will.”

  386. The best is that those one-on-one meetings are all set for tomorrow. And it is a tragic thing. Because Renney honestly thinks he hasn’t said enough words. That words, which he pathetically believes are his friends, his strong suit, will turn the tide. Words when you are too weak to take action end up being your worst enemies. Because people see thru that you are a fraud.

    These guys are so OVER hearing Tom Renney talk as if he has a clue. He doesn’t. They know it even if he’s in full denial. I think the Islanders will pummel them on Wed.

  387. Is it safe to come in here? Any chairs or any other heavy things flying around? I love all this “I was Tom Renney fan once, and now I’m just confused” bullshit by some posters… I mean…sure, if I had a 13.5 inch penis I’d be famous!! Well, thank you very much for the change of heart… plz…jump on… don’t be shy…there is plenty of room on the “bandwagon” now when the obvious things from very beginning are obvious to most of you now too! And still all of those Renney diehards aren’t even here… coincidence?

  388. I really want the “system” Renney is playing explained thoroughly. That seems to be what everyone is complaining about and why the team is not producing offense and hence scoring goals.

    That said, why can’t Renney change the system to one that works?

    Anyone notice how the Rangers have barely had any breakaways, two on ones, three on twos this season? Ever?

  389. there are no options for dumping redden… he has a no trade clause not that any team would trade for him. no team would dare risk 32+ million dollars over the next 5 years. there is no way the dolans would like to pay him that money to stew in hartford, i don’t care if they have money to burn. there is no way it happens.

    i am one of the ranger fans that is not screaming for renney’s head but by no means do i think he is toe blake. anyways his post game comments were especially disturbing tonight: “We got four power-play shots, which might not sound like a lot,” Renney said. “But for us, that’s an accomplishment.”
    well he is right about one thing, it does not sound like a lot.

  390. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Tom Renney-” I was pleased at the speed at which the guys were able to tie thier laces tonight.It shows that they came to play at a level we all expect form them,quite honestly”

    “I noticed how focused we were in picking our nose and spitting while sitting on the bench staring into space,it showed a level of concentration a foundation if you will that I’ve been trying to build now for almost five season”

  391. They gave St. Louis something to think about for when they play them again in 2011. What they’ll be thinking about is chalking up an easy win against a 38 year old Wade Redden, a 34 year old Scott Gomez, and bringing Tom Renney’s lifetime coaching record below .500, which in the post-lockout NHL is almost impossible. Renney will still be around, losing games, and so will our boys Gomez, Redden, and probably Drury.

    Looks like a long road ladies!

  392. all you fools just bitch about renny nonstop.

    look at this talent!!!redden(done), naslund(looks old), gomez cannot shoot, dubi, cannot score, and on and on.

    I blame him for defer to the rich guys, screwing with prucha, and his lineups..

    the rich guys have been huge dissapointments but the young guys also have not produced. The young guys are not ready yet.

    dubi has 7 goals… Korpi might pass him soon…

    I trade none of the young guys…..hope the stud russians in the minors are the real deal else we are screwed..

    cherapanov is a huge loss…

  393. Marc Staal (your daily dose of reality): “We’re sort of waiting to lose. We’ve got to make sure we play to win every time.”

  394. Marc Staal (your daily dose of reality): “We’re sort of waiting to lose. We’ve got to make sure we play to win every time.”

    did he really say that

    I feel so bad for him hank and maybe cally and mara for being part of this shit team on the road to nowhere

  395. i agree with you stuart. i think the problem starts with sather and the talent he assembled. they do not have a single forward who would be a first liner on most teams and they do not have a single defenseman who would be a first pair guy. everyone is a complementary guy, but they have no one to complement, Jagr is gone for good. firing renney may get them jump started for a brief amount of time but it will not be a long term solution to the problems that will plague this team for years to come.

  396. This team is T-A-N-K-I-N-G so that the Albatross/Hyena/Boat Anchor (take your pick) behind the bench gets fired. They are NOT as bad as they look, they are simply not playing to get rid of Renney. That is obviously the only way to get him canned by Sather.

    Sather knows this. When they lost 10-2 he was at the arena in Dallas and he said, “Message delivered”. Meaning that he knows the team will not play for Renney.

    They will start to play well again when Renney has taken his rightful place as a forgotten dark blot on Ranger history.

    Sather had better get his act together and hire a new coach before HE becomes part of the firing party. They still have time to turn it around with a real coach and make the playoffs.

    If Renney is still coach on Wednesday, it’s gonna be an ugly scene at the Garden. MSG won’t be able to mute the sound enough to block out the anger from the fans. It will be the first time that 90% of the fans in the Garden root for the Isles to win.

    If you’re going to be there, SAY IT LOUD! RENNEY MUST GO! SATHER MUST GO!

  397. The real problem was that the players did not break the game into millisecond increments, had they done that, well, who knows how much better they could have been. As Renney said, the period increments are too large, and the …aah..never…mind. I didn’t understand it either.

  398. One step closer to a Renney firing, i cant wait !!

    This was one of the most boring games of the year, Korp scores a goal in 2 games, and he barely gets ice time, THAT is coach Renney.

    Im looking forward to the Renney-lover crying when this gets dumped, i wonder if anyone will hire him.

    Any way, good job by the Blues, they’re helping us out.

    Voros sucks, he embarrassed himself and this team by getting the kicked out of him by Janssen. Id love to have him on this team, he can throw some brutal hits. If that was Orr throwing those punches at Voros, his career would be over. That was a major ass kicking deluxe.

    Sucks to be a Ranger fan. Oh well.

  399. Hearing Renney, Drury and Gomez make excuses only make the situation worse. It’s like they’re in loser denial. Hank must be livid inside. No defensive support, he stands on his head, and they STILL can’t win. I’m sorry, but if you only allow 2 goals you should at least make it to OT.

  400. BTW, I feel bad for any hockey fan that doesn’t have Center Ice or Gamecenter, and missed the LA vs. ATL game tonight. Holy Crap, what a game! Non-stop action, ATL jumping out to a 3 goal lead, only to blow it, regain it, then see LA score 3 goals in the 3rd to tie it with 5 seconds left. Neither team is good defensively, but neither team ever quit. Both teams played with heart and passion for the whole 65 minutes. Kovalchuk is an absolute monster.

    LA lost in the SO, but they have nothing to be ashamed of. Hard fought game on both ends

  401. In the inane system Renney has created, Korpy is able to shine recently in an offensive role. He’s doing it with skill, pure and simple. Ironically, in the limited moments he received in the pivotal third period, he was on the ice for the Blues’ game winner and took the minus skating with (who else) Gomez, Naslund, Roszival and Staal. Our lack of finish is finishing us off. Trade up in the amateur draft and wait for better times next year.

  402. Weird, you watch a game between two teams that are nowhere near to making the playoffs, and you’re stuck to your seat, it’s so good. High-scoring, low-scoring, who cares. Just nice to see exciting hockey.
    Not offered up very often these days by the Rangers, sadly.

  403. Renney’s going to need an early couple of goals to quiet the crowd and a big win to save his job now – even then it will merely postpone the frustration. I don’t see this team cranking it up often enough, they seem to coast through games and aren’t physical enough at the back-end. Its pointless have a world-class goalie like Hank if you can’t score 2 or more goals.

    I like Renney, but he’s lost this team now and only a new coach is going to stick a hot poker up the ass of some of these lot and sort out the disgrace of a power play.

    p.s. on a positive note, Korpedo is looking like the real deal – no way should he be included in any trade talk.

  404. Domi28 February 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    7 loses in a row

    How is that 7 in a row when they just beat the Capitals last wednesday? What a retard…

  405. 725 posts?!?!?! Good job Carp!!!

    I actually fell asleep during the third period. At least Avery will give us a show. . . .unless Bettman pulled a Jack Nicholson from “One Flew Over a Cookoo’s Nest”, lobotomized him, and turned him into the same zombie mush that the Rangers already have on the ice.

  406. cwgatti – i saw the report on the wolfpack game on Saturday and they said Avery was his usual self:

    Quote from beyondtheblueshirts.com:
    “Avery looked good physically, showing his characteristic speed and getting involved along the boards and in front of the net, and he set his line mates up for a few good scoring chances, most notably with a between-the-legs pass from behind the goal line to Parenteau late in the first period. As you’d expect from a player who hasn’t played a game in two months and had only a week to get back into game shape, the scrappy winger displayed some signs of rust, firing wide on a chance in the third period and making more than his share of turnovers, including one on a developing odd-man rush in the third when he left the puck behind in the neutral zone. But there were no indications that the NHL-mandated anger management treatment had altered his on-ice persona, as the feisty forward was his usual yappy self, engaging opponents verbally throughout the game and during promotional breaks and drawing attention in a couple of post-whistle scrums.”

    I think he might add some much needed passion and aggression to this team, but he won’t be here in time to save the coach – if we lose at home this week the crowd will give it him with both barrels, and Slats has to listen.

  407. CARP,
    We can’t let it get to 800-1000 comments before there is a new post. I hope the poor team effort isnt rubbing off on our journalists. We need a new post Carp, ASAP!!!

  408. The number of posts has more to do with the incredibly pathetic state of the team than Carp’s attentiveness to the blog, and its not like he’s posting every 10 days or so.

    I still can’t believe that nothing has happened. not a trade, not a call-up, not a benching, not a firing. Somebody please do something. This team needs some kind of shake-up desparately.

  409. Hey Guys,

    It really pains me to say this, but the only way Dolan will fire Slats, Renney etc, is if his pocket takes a hit, i.e. we need to start boycotting games. Dont give these bums the time of day and watch this Sh##T. If he starts losing money, then heads will roll…..

  410. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “Zach February 17th, 2009 at 5:12 am

    Domi28 February 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    7 loses in a row

    How is that 7 in a row when they just beat the Capitals last wednesday? What a retard…”

    I think Domi meant on the road, Zach.

  411. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Yes, Rob.

    They need us to hit them where they live. In the wallet. Boycott MSG and all Ranger merchandise.

  412. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    “UKRanger February 17th, 2009 at 4:51 am

    Its pointless have a world-class goalie like Hank if you can’t score 2 or more goals.”

    Truer words were never spoken. ^^

  413. Zach
    February 17th, 2009 at 5:12 am
    Domi28 February 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    7 loses in a row

    How is that 7 in a row when they just beat the Capitals last wednesday? What a retard…

    Hey dewchebag Kenny Albert had mentioned that it was
    7 loses

  414. Rangers fans are spoiled indeed…after every 200 comments they need a new post…what is the difference how many comments in a single post 1000 or 10000? If u got anything to say then just say it… typing in here or in a new post will not make this team any better. Have a breakfast instead…

  415. Thanks for clearing that up Forcrissakes,playPrucha!
    and besides even with that 1 win , since January 28th our record is 1-6-2.

  416. Sather’s business decisions: Wouldn’t pay his #1 center, Nylander, so overpaid on a too-long contracts for Drury & Gomez, who have proven to be only #2 & #3 centers. Redden. Refused to pay #1 scorer in Rangers history, and saviour of last 3 seasons, Jagr. Gave up on other top 6 players Shanahan, Straka, Sykora. In a horrible economic environment, Sather has saddled us without one genuine star player (Zherdev is just ok). Boring team, no enthusiasm from fans for team, and if they don’t make playoffs, it will be a financial disaster. National markets won’t want Rangers on tv. Entire NHL suffers. No great prospects. Is that enough for Dolan? Sather is a CEO who has to go. Like many Wall Street CEOs, Sather completely misread this team and the NHL marketplace.

  417. Forcrissakes,playPrucha! on

    Kaspar

    I think we are all waiting for the good news. The longer this crap goes on the more damage is done to this team. Korpi, Prucha with no PP time and Voros out there on it? I’m sick of this garbage.

  418. Maybe Dolan understands losing money for no reason, and plummeting fan interest. It’s so sad that the popularity the Rangers have had over the past 3 years is disappearing. A good Rangers team would be perfect for NY in these economic times. Sather doesn’t get it, destroyed the team, and must go.

  419. So many posts I don’t know if this was posted but I found it funny that Dawes was a game time decision to scratch. So Renney justs puts everyone out there for warm ups and then decides who will sit?? What kind of coaching style is that?

  420. Lets go Rangers !

    Henrik was solid, not his fault we don’t score.

    Korpikoski with another good showing.

    Staal looked decent too.

    Redden with 2 points and a plus one, not bad.

    Big win Wednesday !

  421. I guess if Dolan and Slats are not going to listen to the “FIRE” CHANTS, lets just start chanting “THIS TEAM SUCKS” at games. Just a thought.

  422. nice link domi28.

    That translation felt a little stiff– “…who is summoned along with all the others”– and I know some of Z’s answers would be a little different if asked last night. (interviewed after the PIT loss)

    All in all, it is nice to hear that he likes the coaching staff. Even though he’s been invisible the past few games I really hope he re-signs, and for some reason I thought that Renney’s System would have Z checking out any and every ticket out of here. Maybe not. He’s probably so damaged from his tenure with Hitchcock that playing for Renney is like moving in with Daddy warbucks.

  423. onecupin67years on

    Carps having trouble writing a new post with the same old story line of the rangers sucking. What can he write that we don’t already know or heard?

  424. How about giving Sather the Wall Street treatment? What is his salary? Does he get performance bonuses? How long is his contract? What are his perks? Does he get cash or stock? How many family members are on the payroll?

  425. Somebody mentioned that Rangers will need to score a couple of goals against the Islanders to quiet the crowd, or turn it in their favor. I’m sure Voros will be in the lineup just so he can “fight” 30 secs after Orr does within the first 5 minutes of the hockey game…and it will Renney’s orders, but it will have nothing to do with momentum, just making the crowd less hostile.

  426. Quote from Carp’s article today:

    “I’m not sure what upper management is thinking,” Renney said.

    I couldn’t agree more!!! What are they thinking??????????

  427. More quotes:

    I thought it was night and day from yesterday,” captain Chris Drury said.

    Yes, Chris….that’s correct. The previous game, you got blown out during the day. And this game, you showed little life while losing to a sub-.500 team at night.

    Night and Day! Very observant!

  428. * The NY Rangers…Hmmm. Tough times in NY, but again an example of the subtle difference between being VERY good and VERY bad. The Rangers should be adding Mr. Avery soon and I hear it is possible that the Stars will be taking a fairly high-priced d-man off of their hands to do so. Then add maybe another leader aka Tkachuk or Guerin and as bad as it feels right now with Lunqvist it is never terrible.

    PLease for once let Eklund be right, and let it be FREAKING REDDEN!
    I SO MUCH rather keep Rosi than Mr Cokehead

  429. I heard Pearn before the game on ESPN1050. Here is what he had to say: “We just have to put it behind us”, “Mara’s absence on the powerplay will hurt us” – HA!!! This guy is absoulte CLUELESS!!! LOL
    SATHER & RENNEY MUST GO!!!

  430. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/powerranking
    man are they dead on about our team. we suck. we have these terrible contracts that will hand cuff us for 3-4 years. i dont see us making the playoffs for atleast that time. Even if sather gets fired how do we get out of this? Who will take these disgusting contracts (gomez, drury, REDDEN, even Rozi and the “king”.. who looks more like a queen lately.. and now AVERY? what 10 goals a season will save us? Where is Shanny? oh yeah thats right playing for the New Jersey Devils… who by the way are number one on the attached power rankings.. i see them winning the cup this year… thoughts?

  431. And this one will last a lifetime on

    Message to
    Somebody that has the power to do something…(Dolan-Sather-Graves-Messier??)
    “fire the coaches. you cannot get rid of the team, changes need to be made before we are out of playoff position. Pitt went to the finals last year and fired their coach. Yes, it is time to panic, make changes. Fire the head coach, bring back Avery, play your top fast skill guys all together and load up / top heavy the line up instead of balanced lines, bring up a young offensive minded defensmen (Sanguitti ?)
    Gomez with Dubinsky and Zherdev
    Drury with Naslund and Avery
    Korpedo with Prucha and Callahan

  432. longtimerangersfan on

    I haven’t been a fan of Mr. Renney since he had to be forced to play Lundqvist “Weekes is my #1 goalie”! He would almost never bring up any kids from Hartford or if so rarely played them (they weren’t ready). Would NEVER bench Malikenstein even though he was the WORST d-man (even worse than, shudder, Redden). “Quite honestly” he is very eloquent though.

    This is the MOST frustrating year in the history of my being a Ranger fan. Sad to say that I too (God forgive me)have been rooting for them to lose just for a change in management.

  433. I don’t know. I really don’t know what to say about it,” a crestfallen Brandon Dubinsky said. “You can talk about effort and talk about chances and talk about whatever, it comes down to winning the Fuc*ing game, finding a way to win the game. We couldn’t find a way to win the game tonight, again.”

    Got to love Dubi, at least he isnt being naive like the entire coaching staff.

    PLayers to Keep- Staal, Cally, Hank, Korpi, Prucha, Betts, Orr, Shoey, Zherdev, Dubi, Girardi, Rosi, Mara, Reitz

    The rest of the this team can go F themselves, there pathetic and talk like this is only a 2 game losing streak.

    And Gomer, SHUT UP, stop smiling and start producing for the love of god

    Is Renney Fired yet?

  434. Easy on the Redden and the cocaine innuendos. That is an insult to LT, Kevin Stevens, and all others who could actually play under the influence.

  435. I would venture to say that Redden is suffering from depression. Maybe alcoholism that commonly goes along with it.

  436. longtimerangersfan on

    Hey, over on the Rangers web-site you can choose your favorite moment of the week. Uh, seriously! C’mon, I mean it!Mine hasn’t arrived yet and probably won’t. Is Renney still here? If you think your job sucks, how would you like to be the guy who has to spin the last two weeks?

  437. This is a fantastic read. Max Kellerman mentioned the article yesterday so I checked it out:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html
    author: Michael Lewis (of Liars poker, and Moneyball)

    Disclaimer: It’s about the NBA

    I don’t like basketball. I have a sports fans awareness of happenings in the NBA, who’s good, who’s not, who’s scoring, but I never watch games and I never will.

    It’s more of a sports culture article about making a difference on a team outside of box score statistics. About doing small things well and the dying virtue of unselfishness in the current world of team sports.

    I read the whole article with the Rangers in mind. It very easily applies to hockey, makes you think about mara and cally, and makes you wonder if there is such thing as an unselfish stat.

  438. Watching these games has become depressing on the one hand, but entertaining on the other. Like during the Flyers game I was actually rooting for it to be like 8 goals, not just 5.

    Is anyone else rooting against them right now? I mean ideally, this team gets beaten down like 3 or 4 more times embarrasingly (like by a few goals, only score 1 or 2 flukey ones, etc) and then we get a house cleaning.

    We have had this debate on this blog a few times in the past years and this year I see it more apparent then ever: WE NEED TO BE A SELLER AT THE DEADLINE.

    Drury or Gomer….Redden…Kalinen…Voros….any or all of them should be sent packing. There are some prohibitively expensive contracts out there, but I think the Rangers would be better off sucking up some of their pay (if they had to) and stocking up the team.

    Now I say this and recall the last time Sather cleaned house and got Maxim Kondratiev and Josef Balet for Leetch and Kovalev. (OK I exaggerate but that is what it felt like then and feels like now.)

    If nothing else, ridding the team of Redden would open up the possibility of Jay Bo or Mike Komisarek for next year. I don’t know who in their right mind would ever take Redden, but a guy can dream right?

    FWIW, Rosy has been much better in the last 20 games than he was in the first 40. Some people say his hip was f-ed up from the offseason surgery and it took him much longer to recover than he admitted. That’s fine. I will try and be an optimist. At least he is “value” relative to Redden.

    BTW, is the Redden deal the worst in Rangers’ history? I cannot think of another that was as bad as this…not one…not even remotely close.

    Trade Deadline offerings: Gomez, Drury, Redden, Voros, Kalinen, Naslund

    Trade Deadline on the fence: Sjostrom, Prucha, Dawes, Mara (cuz of his contract being up this year and him being an outperformer)

    Trade Deadline keepers: Lundy, Staal, Girardi, Z, Cally, Dubi, Orr, Betts, Rosy (give him the benefit of the doubt…cuz I am crazy)

    After the deadline, give some of the young kids a chance like Potter, Sags, Anisimov.

    If this comes to be, we don’t need Avery. Truth is, it seems to this amateur hockey analyst that Sather again took this thing idea and f-ed it up. As soon as Avery is ready, do you think no other team is going to want him? Rangers will have to get in line…

  439. why keep Rosival? he is the biggest minus on the whole team. he was pathetic in St louis, and is a major problem on the PP for years

  440. As I said, yesterday – The Rangers can lose 25 consecutive games and Renney will not be fired. Amazing but true. The Rangers ownership is the only ownership in the area which does not care about winning. Does not make screaming, begging, obvious changes. Imagine, the Yankees losing, in the George S. era, and not firing a manager and not dumping unproductive players? This is what the Rangers are – the sleepwalking dead.

  441. Just a point on Kevin Stevens.
    Yes, he was caught smoking crack with a prostitute in a cheap East St. Louis motel room, (with a pregnant wife back home.)
    and Yes it was the end of his Ranger career, but he later slithered his way back to the surface with Philadelphia and Pittsburgh (even becoming a Pens Asst. Coach)

    What puzzles me is how surprised fans seem at this season’s events. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH SATHER FOR YEARS.

    Old, Overpriced, Underperforming Free Agents signed to long-term deals are our stock-in-trade.

    Kamensky? Driver? Malakhov? McLean? Fraser? Quintal?

    Redden would be awful even if he weren’t making $8 million. When I think of it that way it sickens me. But it doesn’t surprise me.

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