PM Update: Avery assigned to Hartford

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Sean Avery was assigned by the Dallas Stars to the Rangers’ AHL affiliate in Hartford earlier today. The winger is still technically Dallas property until he goes through re-entry waivers and is picked up by another team. The Rangers sent out a press release with a statement from the former New York player.

“I would like to thank Glen Sather and the Rangers organization for giving me the chance to resume my hockey career by affording me this opportunity with the Hartford Wolf Pack,” Avery said in a statement. “I am looking forward to getting back on the ice, working my way back to the NHL and playing the game I love.  While I appreciate the many interview requests, at this point in time, I would like to focus on hockey and will not be making any further statements while with the Wolf Pack.”

Glen Sather also released a statement.

“Sean and the Dallas Stars approached me looking for an American Hockey League team for him to resume playing, and I am happy to provide him with the opportunity to continue his career. Sean was a good player for the Rangers during his time here and has worked extremely hard off the ice over the last two months. He remains under contract to and property of the Stars, therefore, any further comment would be inappropriate.”

Update off practice: New lines, folks. Chris Drury, Ryan Callahan and Lauri Korpikoski; Nigel Dawes, Scott Gomez and Markus Naslund; Brandon Dubinsky, Nikolai Zherdev, Aaron Voros/Petr Prucha; and Fredrik Sjostrom, Blair Betts and Colton Orr. Dmitri Kalinin practiced in a yellow jersey.

Drury reiterated that he thought a locker room would accept Avery when he returns. “We all make mistakes,” Drury said. “There’s not a person in this room that hasn’t.”

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Henrik Lundqvist said that Avery “does things that you don’t expect, but that’s part of his package. But sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.”

Coach Tom Renney wouldn’t comment on Avery’s assignment to Hartford, saying he needed to figure out how to win with the players the Rangers already have.

Naslund saw plenty of Avery when he played for the Canucks and Avery was with the Kings.

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PM UPDATE:

Avery joined the Wolf Pack for a 70-minute workout today and is expected to make his AHL debut Friday. 
“My head felt good,” Avery said after today’s practice. “My legs and my lungs felt a little behind.”

 

Meanwhile, a contributor noted that the Wolf Pack’s home arena in Hartford is located on Asylum Street. No punchline needed.

 

— Carp

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  1. MAKO (responding to your post in other thread):

    Avery has to play by March 4th to be playoff eligible, so there’s time.. he can stay in Hartford however long Dallas wants.

  2. zheralev:

    have you seen this team lately? they’re not making the playoffs so who cares about eligibility.

  3. Can’t criticise him for the statement – he’s not allowed to say anything about the player or acquiring him as per NHL rules.

    How long till he can go on re-entry waivers?

  4. A friend of mine said they mentioned on WFan this morning that Sather has gone on record stating coaching staff is safe for remainder of season? Can anyone confirm this?

  5. czechthemout!!!!! on

    Gargoyle-

    Repost from last thread.

    IN that post,the poster says Renney deserves better. I ask why? Look at the way he’s treated Prucha and all of the other players on the team making less than 2million dollars a year.Does he deserve better because he doesn’t hold any of the high priced vets accountable? Does he deserve better because each and every young player on his team is regressing? Or does he deserve better because the msg propoganda machine calls him a nice guy or a good man? Do you Beer me,or any of the other Reney droolers know him personally that you can say he’s a good guy? give me a break with this “deserves better” crap. You can believe me about this or not but I have it on very very good athuority that Renney is a ass kissing jerk who has very little control of the team wich is why it seems like anything he tries falls on deaf ears.in addition,the players DO NOT believe in his “system”.

  6. avery should be on re entry before the end of the week. if they’re going to do this, the stars need to put him on re entry and let the rangers claim him before he plays any significant time in the ahl for the wolfpack. the longer they wait and the more sean plays the more likely it is that someone else will claim him off of re entry… especially if he’s playing well down there. they can’t afford to showcase him without him being rangers property.

  7. czechthemout!!!!! on

    NYR56-

    If what you say is indeed correct than we are doomed for the season. This is Glen Sather telling most of the fans to PISS OFF!!! just like in that video clip.

  8. Ah Ha, a Sather “Vote of confidence” for the coaching staff.” That ALWAYS indicates just the opposite. When is the last time anyone in sports got a vote of confidence from management and survived for any duration? Unless Sather is the most perverse sports executive in history, he is looking around, as we speak. Now if only Dolan would give SATHER a vote of confidence, we could right this sinking ship.

  9. if anything can sneek a “Fire Sather” sign into the Garden tomorrow you will be my friend for life.

  10. just a thought,

    i think the team we saw in the beginning of the yr played with a different passion. i loved that team and i bet u did too. i think a new coach can get that passion back. i really do think this team would be better with a different coach.

    there has been more turnover with coahces recently than gms for nyr so its easier to hope for a new coach. and lastly supposedly sather wanted shanny back and renney didnt

  11. I know everyone will be on Renney and Sather tomorrow night but we should turn up the heat on Dolan. This man is a embecile. He has turned the Rangers and Knicks into laughing stocks in all sports. To call this mess a circus would be a insult to Barnum and Bailey.

  12. And Sather did nothing but rip the Rangers when he was with Edmonton saying the money they spent is a disgrace and the way to build a team is thru the draft.

  13. Carp,

    In the other thread last night, you commented on how you loved what Maloney said in the post game but that he may get in trouble with his bosses. What did Maloney say?

  14. Parros February 10th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Glenn the entire team you put together is inappropriate you bumbling @ss-clown.

    CLASSIC AND 100% TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. Wonder what the new line combinations are at practice today. Maybe Zherdev-Orr-Dawes? They should handily stop Ovechkin.

  16. Matt R, like I said I have no problem with firing Renney but I do not trust Sather to pick the guy, he is fried. You should never be allowed to pick more then 3 coaches. Never.

  17. ThisTeamisBoring on

    Drury – Gomez – Naslund
    This line sucks, but it’s hilarious to watch.
    Avery – Dubinsky – Zherdev
    This line might actually score.
    Prucha – Korpikoski – Callahan
    Solid forechecking 3rd line.
    Voros – Betts – Orr
    Orr is my hero after punching Rupp in the face.

  18. ford is on fire today

    And saying Renney is better that the other coaches we’ve had recently is like saying cancer is better than HIV. Just cause it might be better doesn’t neccesarily make it ‘good’.

    PS… That goes for Hank too. He looks THAT good because of what we’re coming off of in terms of recent goaltending. (Don’t get me wrong there I love him… But its all relative…)

  19. Just a thought

    You are right. When a GM has to pick more than 3 coaches he should take that as a sign to quit. Renney does suck, though.

  20. Salty exactly my point and you don’t want the guy who “gave” you them. Enough of Sather. God now I feel like the one trick ponies who rant about Renney all day long. I should start writing that people are drinking the Satheraide, because he wants the finger pointed at everyone but where it belongs, squarely at him. Im done, it won’t change. Fire Renney and let the ranting start about the next coach.

  21. I did like Renney, thought he brought some class back to the Rangers. But he is done but I am really worried what the idiot will do next.

  22. Prucha sad but true. When they can take something away from you that is for pure enjoyment, it is amazing.

  23. Maybe its not Avery we need back, maybe its Sam….last game he covered was the game against the ‘Canes and we haven’t won since!
    No offense to Jane or Carp, but maybe we could make a trade with Golf Digest to get him back for Redden and Gomez…

  24. What is it with New York sports management?? … The Mets keep Randolph 6 weeks to long – that costs them the playoffs …. The Knicks keep Thomas 6 years too long … now the Rangers are keeping Renney too long … get rid of Renney, no matter whose fault it is, the coaches job is to get the best out of his players -which he isnt doing-, and to play the best lineup that will help them to win… he is not doing that either.

  25. With Avery likely coming in, I really don’t see them replacing Renney. He has “successfully” coached him before and they don’t want to risk Avery and a new coach butting heads. So I think we’re stuck with him for at least another month or so.

  26. Any idea why there’s bad blood between Giannone and Avery?

    …..

    How much do you already know?

    Just heard a Renney quote on 1050ESPN… endorsing Avery:

    something like:

    “Avery was a good player for us and we could sure use the inspiration and heart he brings to the ice to help motivate the players and *people around the team* (?) You have to respect the passion he brings to the ice especially cause one of these days *someone is just going to squish him* …”

    Anyone else hear that? Wtf?

  27. This is the best news surrounding this team in a while. You can all say what you want, but this team is better with him than they are without him. Do they need a pure finisher, a better D-man or two, and possibly a coaching change? Sure, but this improves the team for the time being. Plus, at least I won’t fall asleep watching Ranger games anymore.

  28. 53-23-13ish with him in the lineup.. but he’s not coming here… someone else is going to get him on re-entry and then force Sather to trade for him.

  29. Avery still would need to go through reentry waivers (and get through for the Rangers to claim him from the Stars) or be traded.

    The Stars don’t have an AHL affiliate all their players play for different teams

    Avery got mad at Giannone over a misunderstanding about doing an interview and then Avery said something nasty (and undisclosed) to Giannone… speculation is it had something to do with his wife…

    Is Renney suggesting someone squish Avery?

  30. One of the few stories I’ve heard, this is straight from Gianonnes mouth somewhere on MSG.com video that was flaoting around when DAL played in NY earlier this year:

    Giannone apparently wanted to talk to Avery after a practice and Avery said No, not talking to anyone. Gianonne was still hanging around afterwards and heard Avery say “Hey John, come here for a sec…” so he went over to him and Avery was like ” I wasnt talking to you, I was talking to John so and so (staff), i already told you to leave, etc”

    Then on team bus Gianonne was riding along with the team and said he always waits until all the players are off before he gets off. Said when he thought the bus was clear he got up to get off and Avery pops up behind him saying “go ahead buddy, go ahead pal, you can get off before me, its okay” all sarcastically.

    THEN apparently that night at the Garden when Dallas was here, Giannone said something to Avery when he saw him outside the lockerroom between periods and Avery said something about his wife and they had to be broken up out of eachothers faces by someone.

    I dunno. I think Avery had his chance here and not only walked away from it, but burned his bridge behind him. It’s too bad we’re struggling so bad right now cause it would have felt good to leave him stranded. Unfortunately, many people believe we actually need him.

  31. guys firing renny will not save the season. I dislike renny for the Prucha banishment, his line juggling, and allocation of minutes, and his inability to punish the vets when it is warranted, but at the end of the day they stink because of in order of significance; redden sucks, gomez stinks, drury stinks, and then you go from there.

    throw into the mix not using prucha misusing and or using voros, sjustrom, kalinan, and others and what do you get?

    You get zero sustained offense, no crashing the net, and terrible results…

    reitz played 9 minutes last night and redden played 24, redden is treated like he is scott neidermayer or niklas lindstrom but he is marek malik.

    drury, gomez, and naslund are treated like they are the legion of doom but they are the legion of dud.

    is this roster stanley cup ready? absolutely not but this should be a 5th or 6th seed if they played together, played hard, and played smart….

  32. salty,

    what does that even mean

    ….

    The “squish” thing? I’m really not sure. Renney is a fkn retard. I was hoping one of the Renney kissers here might explain it to me.

    My best assumption is that he “respects Avery doing what he does on the ice knowing that he will likely pay a hefty price for it someday”…

  33. Welcome home sean, the nest has been empty without you.

    …now don’t SCREW IT UP!

    That’s a big assumption (whether we will get him) and a huge clause (he better keep his act straight and put up the 50 points he was on pace for when he played, plus do all the nitty-gritty without ruining the locker room…etc) because 2012 is a long ways away… Chris Drury would know, they’ll be UFA’s the same year. Ughhh….

  34. I’m 50/50 on bringing Avery back. My biggest reason for not bringing him back is because I don’t think he addresses the biggest needs of the current team. Yes he’ll provide some grit but he’s not big and sometimes takes bad penalties.

    As for him being a cancer to the locker-room, the players on this team had their chance at a peaceful locker-room. With the way they’ve played the last few games and how there have been far too many meltdown games before this stretch, they’ve lost the benefit of the doubt. Whatever the reasons were in the past, they played better when he was in the lineup. The only way to tell whether it was because of Avery specifically or the fact that they had a different core the previous couple of season would be to see what Avery can do with this year’s team. If nothing else, maybe he can get into a scrap with Redden or Voros during practice like he did with Malik.

  35. Chris?! Sell who? to where?!

    Who’s taking, Redden, Gomez, Drury and (perhaps… but he’s been much better the past 15 games) Rozsival?! With their contracts who are we selling to and for what?

  36. czech thought I join you over here and see whats up.
    Unfourtunately we as Ranger fans are are in for years of moaning and groaning because our team is in deep trouble and unless dolan waives the dead beats and eats there contracts we will be stuck with them for a while.
    It amazes me renney is still here, he should have been gone after Dallas but with cigar puss it shouldn’r surprise me.Lets hope a miracle happens and the coaching staff is gutted and sather is able to dump some of these losers ,either to the minors or some other idiot gm.

  37. Maloney just announced huge news about Renney on NHL Live….

    He basically said that Tom Renney will be wearing the brown sport jacket and the dark blue tie for tomorrows showdown vs the Caps

  38. doodie machetto on

    Renney actually isn’t a terrible coach. I’d actually say he’s an average coach.

    The problem is the roster he has been given. If I give you two rocks and tell you to make me an omellette, you have to do what you can. That’s Renney’s current predicament. His team is terrible, and he’s just been trying to find SOME way to keep them from being even worse than they actually are.

    Now, that’s not to say he shouldn’t be fired, because he absolutely should. The thing is, the core players (read: expensive contracts) aren’t going anywhere. So if Renney can’t win with these guys, it just stands to reason to bring in someone else to take a shot.

    Sure, it could be worse. We could be like the Rangers from the end of the 90s through the lockout and just constantly disappoint. But it could also be better. And since we KNOW it won’t get better under Renney, it’s worth taking the chance.

    Forget your personal feelings about Renney. Just look at the logic of it:

    1) Definitely won’t win with Renney and these players.
    2) These players aren’t going anywhere.
    3) Renney is here.
    4) Therefore, we definitely won’t win.

    Now eliminate Renney from this equation.

    1) Definitely won’t win with Renney and these players.
    2) These players aren’t going anywhere
    3) Renney is NOT here.
    4) Therefore, we MIGHT win.

    See? Renney needs to be fired. It’s science.

  39. LIQUID
    February 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
    Maloney just announced huge news about Renney on NHL Live….

    He basically said that Tom Renney will be wearing the brown sport jacket and the dark blue tie for tomorrows showdown vs the Caps
    …….

    Then he said Avery will be wearing a double-breasted Ralph Lauren with red shoes and, a P-cane, and an interesting assortment of used panties he’s accumulated during just the past 12 hours.

  40. I have been meaning to ask this question for quite some time….It is interesting and I do not know the answer.

    We have shouted here for Renney to bench guys like Gomez and Redden…..Those two guys are being paid around $15MM bux combined. They are both vets.

    So my question is, since they are getting guaranteed money, and hockey players for the most part have little egos, how the heck would a benching positively help these type of guys ??

    I could understand if it was a rookie or 2nd year player looking to play for a contract who needs visibility and ice time…..I dunno

  41. doodie machetto
    February 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
    Renney actually isn’t a terrible coach. I’d actually say he’s an average coach.

    The problem is the roster he has been given. If I give you two rocks and tell you to make me an omellette, you have to do what you can. That’s Renney’s current predicament. His team is terrible, and he’s just been trying to find SOME way to keep them from being even worse than they actually are.
    ……….

    I’m sick and tired of reading this crap!

    Why did the Rangers start the season 10-2-1 if the team is THAT bad?!

    Why is prucha sat every damn night while Voros gets PP time in the last 5 minutes of the game and plays 3 of the last 5 shifts of a game the Rangers are down 2 and 3 goals?

    Why are Redden, Drury, and Gomez never held responsible for lazy play?

    Why is Zherdev not put on lines with offensive players of like-style (Naslund, Prucha?) and why doesn’t he play 18 minutes at a minimum?

    Why has Sjoestrom play 16-18 minutes any game this year?!

    Renney’s awful. This team was good when they forechecked, he got scared when they got a couple losses under their belts and he turned the team into a defensive turtle that’s afraid to transition and run-n-gun like they did the first 13 games of the season

  42. Maloney is not doing himself proud on NHL Live. A whitewash of monumental proportion. Disappointing but predictable.

  43. if the SJO fits on

    Salty,

    Giannone is a GIANT TURD. I could care less that Avery burned a bridge with a reporter than I can’t stand. As for his relationship with the players, our current players have NO RIGHT to have an opinion on whether or not Sean should be here. They are playing like sh*t and there is aboslutley NO CHEMISTRY to disturb if this guy comes in. People are calling him a cancer?! THE TEAM WE’VE BEEN WATCHING PLAY LIKE CRAP OVER THE PAST MONTH IS A CANCER!! Now I’m not saying we NEED this guy at all. I’m just not gonna be the guy who is complaining about him becoming a detriment to the team. Let’s all face it, ANY kind of drastic move at this point is another reason for us to become that much more interested in a team that has lost almost all of my interest.

  44. all of you holding on to hope that the rangers are still going to somehow manage to squeeze into the playoffs are completely delirious. the caps could dress the dude who works in their offices (their emergency goalie) as their starting goalie tomorrow and still shut out the rangers. 6 in a row, here we come.

    how many losses in a row will it take before renney is gone? we need to sell sell sell.

    i’ve got a feeling avery won’t even make it to the rangers. there has to be other teams willing to take a shot at him on re-entry waivers.

  45. doodie machetto on

    Statik, Avery won’t make any difference, regardless of who is coaching.

    As long as Wade Redden, Chris Drury, Scott Gomez, Michael Rozsival, and Henrik Lundqvist eat up a combined 33 million in salary cap, this team will never win. Plain and simple.

    I include Hank and Rozsi because they are overpaid, although not nearly as offensively as the other three. Hank probably makes about 800k too much, and Rozsi about a million to a million and a half. He’s been playing a lot better recently, largely because he doesn’t have Wade Redden ruining him. I mean, look how bad Girardi has been since he’s been paired with Redden. Although, he was pretty bad when paired with the even worse Kalinin.

    But still, 33 million in 5 players isn’t going to win you anything except potentially a lottery pick. No way you can round out your roster with that much salary tied up.

  46. # True Fans Bleed RW&B February 10th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Chris?! Sell who? to where?!

    Who’s taking, Redden, Gomez, Drury and (perhaps… but he’s been much better the past 15 games) Rozsival?! With their contracts who are we selling to and for what?”

    west coast teams

    they take anyone for playoff runs

  47. Dave Maloney was on NHL Live just now, and I’m sorry folks, but he is a just another big MSG yes man. I don’t know where people get the idea he is something different.

    he just now on NHL Live called Renney one of the best coaches in the league, and said it would be unfair if he was fired.

    and he praised sather too.

    Maloney is nothing but another media softie, company man.

    period.

  48. Avery should call his former boss over at Vogue to do a story on “The Women of Hockey”…

    And the centerfold will be Wade Redden and his entire pocketbook collection

  49. SJO

    I’m not concerned about disrupting this years locker room… I’m all for a clusterfk at this point.

    I’m concerned about locking horns and making hell for the new coach and new players when they arrive. There’s a reason no one wanted Avery.

  50. doodie machetto on

    “i’ve got a feeling avery won’t even make it to the rangers. there has to be other teams willing to take a shot at him on re-entry waivers.”

    if he looks good in the minors, you KNOW there will be. I’m thinking Atlanta has nothing to lose, and since he can play center, maybe they think he can pivot Kovalchuk.

  51. Why are we the only team that is willing to take on Avery’s contract? 1 team out of 30 and it has to be us? 10 points in 23 games for Dallas. We have one more goal then the Islanders this year! The Islanders! We have the 3rd least scoring team in the entire NHL. But yes Sean Avery will change all of that! What a disgrace. Yes that is going to turn our team around. Sather got this one! Just like Redden baby! And gomez!!!!! And Drury!!!! and Rozival!!!! Yes I cant wait to be handcuffed even more for the next 3 years atleast!! I am so happy! . Our organzation is the worst. How long did it take for Isaiah Thomas to go? We are stuck with Sather and Renny forever.

  52. Remember how badly Kasparaitis was treated after coming back off surgery? They unceremoniously dumped him in Hartford, despite his big contract, and despite the fact that he had been a good player for the Rangers. Why do veteran Rangers get treated so badly, yet “new” Rangers like Gomez, Redden and Drury get treated with kid gloves. The only difference I see is that Kaspar is from Europe and the others are not. Even Theo Fleury got treated better than Kaspar. Yet Redden never misses a shift. And Prucha sits in the stands, but Dawes and Voros get chance after chance. If I was from Europe, I would see a definite bias.

  53. Powerless play on

    the Rangers lost that game last night in the first period because of the failure on the PP. they had 4 chances on the PP and failed miserably.

    it has been a problem for 4 years. and guess who have been coaching since that time? Renney and his PP guru, Pearn.

    that alone, the PP cluelessness, should be reason enough for a GM to see the light, and fire their ass.

    it is not just not scoring on the PP, but they have also allowed more shorthanded goals to the opponents while on the PP than anybody in the league, and they have Dmen back on the point. so, it is obvious that there is a real problem in the PP setup, and the coaching of it, no matter who has been on it over 4 years.

  54. “Renney’s awful. This team was good when they forechecked, he got scared when they got a couple losses under their belts and he turned the team into a defensive turtle that’s afraid to transition and run-n-gun like they did the first 13 games of the season.”

    Well said, true fans

  55. Anyone want to entertain the possibility Avery wanted to come back to New York all along? He wanted the money and he got it, and to make sure he could play in New York, he became unwelcome in DAL because he knew that he could either be bought out or waved, then recalled and claimed. Avery and Sather = Mad Geniuses. Or just mad.

  56. Powerless play on

    Billy Jaffe said the Rangers can’t get the puck in the corners, but he did not follow up that observation with the realization that it is the forecheck that renney has pulled back from that is the reason for them not getting the puck in the corners.

  57. Anyone else check the Wolfpack website to see that they have “Nigel Dawes bobblehead night” coming up soon. I find that funny.

    Also, Maloney is right- our elite players aren’t matching up. That isn’t controversial, that is just plain evident in the way they are playing…

  58. The fact that the 4th line gets any ice time when we’re down two goals with 10 min left in the third or on the ice after the tired checking line of the other team ices the puck indicates Renney = epic fail.

    true fans: SPOT ON!

  59. Rick,

    Where do you see Avery playing if/when he returns? I also still don’t understand why Renney doesn’t put Drury between Dawes and Callahan. That line worked so well together.

  60. Why are we the only team that is willing to take on Avery’s contract? 1 team out of 30 and it has to be us? 10 points in 23 games for Dallas. We have one more goal then the Islanders this year! The Islanders! We have the 3rd least scoring team in the entire NHL. But yes Sean Avery will change all of that! What a disgrace. Yes that is going to turn our team around. Sather got this one! Just like Redden baby! And gomez!!!!! And Drury!!!! and Rozival!!!! Yes I cant wait to be handcuffed even more for the next 3 years atleast!! I am so happy! Our organzation is the worst. How long did it take for Isaiah Thomas to go? We are stuck with Sather and Renny forever.

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  62. I think there is a definite Europe bias, totally agree with KC … compare the way Jagr was treated vs. Drury; Malik vs. Redden (Redden makes 5 times as much); Kasparitis etc.

  63. if im sather, im selling at the deadline and listening to all offers for the following players:

    naslund – one of the softest dudes in the nhl. he’d be a third line winger on most teams.
    gomez – absolutely worthless.
    drury – i know im dreaming thinking we’d ever lose captain crap but i can hope right?
    redden – no explanation needed.
    zherdev – came as advertised. can’t keep his head up, always turns over the puck.
    orr – who cares if he can throw bombs. he can’t play hockey to save his life.
    rozsival – complete garbage. i’ll never understand why he doesn’t shoot the puck more.
    kalinin – we’re going to have to waive him… no one is trading for this turd.
    dawes – will never be the player he was before he made it to the nhl.
    voros – see kalinin. ryan hollweg 2.0. waste of a roster spot.
    betts – stonehands. can’t put the puck in the ocean.
    korpikoski – has shown me absolutely nothing this year. no flash at all.
    girardi – has he had more than a handful of decent games this year?

    the only ones i’d say are untouchable would be:

    staal – the only decent defensemen we have and he’s still got a long way to go.
    dubinsky – give him time. he’ll get there.
    hank – duh
    prucha – he needs to play every day.
    callahan – 12 hits in one game? keeper.
    mara – took a discount to stay here, plays a better game than anyone else on the d except for staal.

    so out of our entire team, there’s only 6 guys that i think should be kept going into next year. sell sell sell. pick up as many picks and young talent as you possibly can.

  64. Jagr will have to go through re-entry waivers if he signs with them, since he has a 3 year contract with the KHL…. watch Atlanta pick him up… lol

  65. I want to see Peaches and Herb style personnel moves. iow, “Reunited and it feels so good”

    send Gomez back to the debbies. send Drury back to the Sabres. send Redden back to the Sens. send Naslund back to the canucks. send Rosival back to Europe, Voros back to Minn, Dawes back to hartford, etc etc

    send Renney back to the unemployment line. send Sather back to Edm(after all, he loves second chances, remember). send dolan back to his rubber room

  66. shesends – I agree with you about those six. I wouldn’t keep anyone but them, either. Anyone else should be fair game to improve the team in terms of D and scoring.

  67. F Avery then, BRING BACK THE BIG MAN!!!! someone put a hit out on Redden so we can get Jagr!!!! woooohooooo GREAT NHL BETTMAN!!!!!!

  68. Powerless play,

    Great post @ 1:30pm.

    Dead on accurate.

    I’m also on board with Doodie… you have to give these guys a chance to win with someone else. It isn’t happening with Renney. Right now (and for two 1/2 seasons) he’s been just throwing new combos out to try and right the ship. That’s his grand scheme.

    Sather is at fault too.

    (I’m going to end every post like that from now on so that folks realize we all know that)

  69. Eric,
    We learned from the Islanders ‘signing’ dubilewicz that bringing players back from abroad isn’t that straight forward. While i’m pretty sure they paid the transfer fee, i am 100% he had to go through re-entry waivers and another team stole him from under their nose. There are 11 teams lower than the Oilers so if they did re-sign him there’s a significant chance a team below them could take them (say, the Islanders or Thrashers who could then trade his rights).

  70. Hockeyman Rangers on

    Yep this is just what we need, a pain in the _ss player that will disrupt a already screwed up team. If we don’t get the old washed up players and pay them ridicoulas amounts of money, we get the trouble makers. Ave’s might make a small difference but nothing that is going to get us anywhere.
    What will this do to our cap space, will we have to get rid of some one???
    Rangers need a clearing house from Sather all the way down. I am already looking forward to the end of the season.
    IT BETTER HAPPEN.

  71. How dare you make false claims about one of my favorite interns last summer at Vogue. Sean happens to be one of the most outstanding people to ever come into my life. You Rangers fans sound like the prepubescent girls we hire over here to cover our magazine, bitching about every organizational transaction and not willing to give someone a chance.

    By the way, I can’t wait to go to the Garden to watch Avery play for the blueshirts and give that little Giannothing a piece of my mind.

  72. He could simply choose to not report to those teams and make that known through his agent. Who knows? This guy is not a faulty source. He is usually correct when he reports rumors.

  73. Didn’t the Rangers have some “relationship” with Omsk (although most of those people got canned by the KHL). Why can’t Rangers lawyers negotiate something for Jagr — that’s what lawyers are for. Maybe Sather could do something positive for once instead of his usual too little, too late deals.

  74. shesends,

    I agree with most of the players you named, but would never put Betts on the throw out list.

    Betts has been one of our best players on the ice. He isn’t a goal scorer, but is a role player whose value comes during the penalty kill. I feel he is underrated in the league just because he doesn’t put the puck in the net. He plays smart hockey, rarely makes a mistake, and doesn’t give up while so many others are skating like pee wee players out there.

  75. anna wintour.. i hope this is a joke. we all know avery doesnt actually fight..but this may be a first. His boss at Vogue Magazine sticking up for him. What a homo!

  76. gomez and drury got eaten alive on hockey central at noon today out of toronto. they’re ripping the entire team.

  77. shesends you are over the top. BTW Mara is a UFA and he is gone this offseason, he is far from a keeper…

    Yeah give up on Dawes and Lori they after all are 23 yrs old…You have the patience of a heroin addict looking for a score…

    Staal does have a ways to go but he looks like a multi time Norris trophy winner….

    betts at $600k a year is very good value.

    Roszival is better then you think also….

  78. DomivBaumgartner on

    I think you fire Renney and name Perry Pearn the coach for the rest of the year. In the off season address the situation for the future and hire a top flight coach. Roger Nielson (Tom Renney) just isn’t the right guy for the Rangers anymore.

  79. that Edm paper is such a rag. they said that Kevin Lowe was the Gm. he is not. it is steve tambellini who is now the GM there.

    and they don’t even know that you have to go thru waivers to return from playing in europe.

  80. doodie machetto on

    Zhervalev, you nailed it head on. No way does anyone sign Jagr this season unless it is to a contract that no other team can afford half of.

    So in other words, a team will have to have more than twice the cap space of the next highest team, and sign Jagr to that full amount. As far as I know, the team with the most cap space is LA with about 12 million. Second is Nashville with about 11. So, no way does Jagr clear re-entry waivers under any circumstances.

    If he’s back in the NHL, it’s next season.

  81. PEARN? are you kidding?

    he is more clueless than renney. ol’ shiny forehead is the PP and Dmen coach. he is worse than Renney

  82. Aside from Rozsival playing horrible in the beginning part of the season, I think he has really turned his game around. Obviously he is still not worth the HUGE contract, but he has gotten better, in my opinion.

    I wouldn’t give up on our young guys just yet either. Give Dawes and Korp another year, if you don’t see anything promising, then get rid of them.

  83. over the top? are you kidding me? betts is one of the best shut down centers in the game but guess what HE CAN’T SCORE. EVER. and on a team that has absolutely no offense, don’t you think we’d be better served with someone who can at least give us some production?

    and yea, rozi isn’t nearly as bad as redden or kalinin and i know he’s been hurt this year but cmon, the dude will never be a pp qb and he’s been a disaster this year.

    look, im not saying that glen should go looking to trade guys like rozi, dawes or korpedo but he should be listening to offers for them.

    who knows what the korpedo will end up being but dawes will never be the goal scorer he was in junior or the ahl. never.

    i know mara is a ufa but he’s also one of our best dmen. id rather have mara re-upped than rozi or redden. thats for damn sure.

    hockey central: they went off about how the nyr are a country club and there’s no heart or sandpaper. said we had no grit and we don’t work hard and that the gomez and drury signings were awful. they ripped those two apart but sparred redden and the rest of the worthless bunch. matthew barnaby is trashing the rangers now, esp glen sather.

  84. This is why Renney should be fired juggling lines every game no consistency at all for the players, how does he expect them to work together if they are playing with different line mates each shift.

  85. So Orr K/O’s Rupp and Rangers give up 2 goals straight away….so much for “momentum” swinging fights effecting games heh?

  86. Staal is plus 2,

    Rosival is minus 13, worst on the team along with Naslund -13

    Redden minus 11, Gomez, Girardi and Sjostrom are minus 10

    plus minus does not tell all the story, but variances from one player to another are telling.

    Girardi is dragged down by Redden, but the others have few excuses

  87. Does Renney just put the games in a hat and pick them out to decide these lines? This team is the laughing stock of the league right now.

    Avery coming back….LOVE IT.

  88. Actually, yes CZECH. I HAVE had a conversation with him. Casino Night 2007.

    Does that qualify me to make a statement that holds more water than someone that hasn’t?

  89. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Beer Me!-

    Having a breif conversation with someone during a pr event does not equate to knwoing if someone is or is not a good guy. What did you expect him to say to you when you can over,Piss Off!!? My info about him comes from someone who used to play for him as a Ranger.Tom Renney is a brown nosing ahole who has a double standard with his playes.

    That Beer Me makes him far from a nice guy!

  90. Doodie – I gotta say. I find disgust in a lot of your posts. No offense, really. But at least you try to intelligently quantify your statements. The rest of these window-lickers…just nonsense.

  91. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    I’ll say this for Renney.never has one coach made so many line combos with the same players over and over again.The sad thing is is that he’s now embarrassing himself with all these different line combos.He is becominga laughing stock.The one thing this guy refuses to try is to totaly change his “system” which has us as the 18th best defense and the 30th or DEAD LAST offense in the league.

    But I know I know “he’s a good man”

    Vincea- glad to see you posting here!

  92. Does anyone think that if Sather does fire Renney, he will hire a competent head coach? Sather is the problem here. With Sather at the helm, us Ranger fans will continue to suffer. Wake up Dolan from your drug and alcohol induced coma.

  93. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Tisk tisk tisk,Little Beer Me! is a little touchy today.
    What’s the matter jackass,I touched a nerve? If you need a laugh why don’t look at all your stupid posts over the last several months defending this
    you call a coach and how absurd all yur posts are.I wasn’t trying to get personal with you but if you must,bring .

    The player I spoke about is Fedor Tyutin.

  94. Sather isn’t going anywhere anytime soon swizzle. As much as we all want Sather out of here, I really don’t see it happening in the near future. There have been no reports stating his job is even in jeopardy.

  95. mic’d up! he’s ready to goooo! mic’d up! new york sports radio! mic’d up! mic’d up!

    g awful.

  96. Problem is Sather has a job for life because of Dolan…this all starts and ends with the decisions Sather makes and how much he’s tied our hands right now. But he will never be removed until the day he starts affecting the one thing Dolan cares about most…his wallet. When revenues start dropping, then and only then, will Sather be dropped.

  97. Seriously Dawes is still in this lineup?
    WHY? -LAst nights game ZERO SHOTS ON GOAL
    SEND HIM DOWN!!!

    Id rather have AA up here getting assits than Dawes not even getting a shot on goal

    And VOROS, AGAIN? He’s high, Thats the reason, Freaking Renney MUST be high.

    Lets see: Prucha or Voros hmmmm who do you guys and gals think coach Brainsurgeon will put on the ice?

    Renney really makes me want to gouge his eyes out with his own glasses and shove that pack of gum down his throat.

  98. The way Renney coached against Washington in late December is a perfect microcosm of the season itself and his overall philosophy: Terror! Fear!

    Race out to an exhilarating lead (season 10-2-1; game 4-0), then try to maintain it by shutting down flow, emotion, all semblance of attack in order to run out the clock.

    Didn’t work then. Not gonna work now.

  99. Dave Maloney has me wondering too, how he speaks with forked tongue. About 2 months ago on radio between periods he interviewed Larry Brooks. Both Brooks and Maloney agreed their is a leadership void, that Drury is not cutting it as Captain along with the other “leaders” Gomez, Naslund Redden in the locker room. Now today he says the team has good people on it. Amazing.

  100. Umm Renney getting fired? That owuld end it for me

    Filip Kuba, Chris Neil, Antoine Vermette and Christoph Schubert are all on the chopping block

    and LAssi Kukkonen is on waivers from Philly
    Jsut to update

  101. Defensive turtles. Too funny.

    Defensive turtles don’t lose 6-2 and 10-2 and 8-5 and 4-0 …….

    Since the allstar break we’ve scored 7 goals. SEVEN
    We’ve let in 25.

    Some Defense.

  102. for all you guys who say Sather needs to go, but you support Renney, let me ask you

    in ’04 when Sather was as unpopular as he’ll ever be in NY, he could not even dare show his face at a Ranger charity event or fanfest, YET, we could not get rid of him then. Dolan said he loved him and would NOT fire him.

    so, I ask you, why should we-want-Renney-fired fans waste our time trying to change the mind of an intractable moron, Dolan. He is NOT going to fire Sather, so why bring it up.

  103. Alex, don’t waste your time on *Beer Me*
    He gets cranky when people disagree with him and then he’s a hypocrite because he says everyone else is impolite. Hahaha. World class joke, save your time and avoid reading his stuff. Sometimes I read what he posts, but only because his posts are exactly how I shouldn’t feel about this team so I just make sure Im still 95% contrary to everything he believes.

  104. right, trueblue. and did you notice, it never works the other way around with trapping coaches. they say offense comes from good defense. but, why then doesn’t good defense also cone from good offense, namely FORECHECKING?

    it does, but they won’t admit it, because it does not fit their overly cautious personality.

  105. 0necupin67years on

    NEW LINES ?
    That’s mathematically impossible with Renney, he’s used up all the possible combos.

  106. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    I don’t know weather to laugh or cry? Missing the playoffs is my main concern and half the bloggers on here don’t seem to worried. Complain , whine and bitch . No Avery , yes Avery , everyone hates Slats and Renney . Half or the posters on here are fair weather fans. I don’t blame half of you but hey i’m trying to support my team here and its pritty hard with all the negativity. If you hate Gomez ( i kinda do) and Renny , sather and Voros ( I feel all of yer anger too)and the team is making you too upset…Stop watching it and don’t come on this blog to yap , because frankly im sick of it!…Bitch , yap and whine a couple times , fine …but i can ‘t stand the constant fans who day after day afer day ,,keep repeating and repeating and repeating all the bad stuff about the Rangers everyday..Can’t anyone be a lil original and say something different. I know ill play this post all day and maybe some of you will get the message ,,nice to have Wednesdays or some day everyone has to bite thier lips and only post inspiring stuff…fat chance , yes I want Renney fired too because when a team gets shut out alt latle and cant score ,,the coach has too go .

  107. Good news fellow Rangers fans…

    If I win the Mega Millions jackpot tonight….

    I will personally buy out Wade Redden’s contract !!!

  108. 0necupin67years on

    zzzz 13 zzzzz
    everyone is entitled to their opinion
    some know a lot about hockey, some don’t
    but I haven’t seen good hockey from this team since Colin Campbell was the coach .. and I guarantee I’ll get ripped for saying so.

  109. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    (Heck)Jagr , Straka and Nylander played pritty well together . No team had that kinda chemistry like those guys had!!

    I liked the “fly” line , where Lindros was with York and Fleury ..man that line flew around and boy it was so cool to watch. Trading York and Lindros being hurt and Theo punchin out Mascots , that line eventually broke up.

  110. z13. it’s that way in life. you don’t see the newscasters saying there were hundreds of flights landing safely in NY today. no, they talk only about the one that landed in the Hudson.

    and many of us would like to see Renney land in the Hudson

    we’re tired of treading water, year after year.

  111. WTH thanks for the link. I had stop after 3 minutes because the contrast to what we have now was infuriating If I kept watching I would have thrown my lap top out the window.

  112. z 13 z
    How do you think that Jag-Ny-Str line would have played without the genious that is Tom Renney?

  113. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    (onecup) yeah alot of yer posts are pritty negative and i wantes to respond back a few days ago but hey I know where ya comming from , Colin Campbell wasn’t too bad a coach . Good hockey from this team is when Hank stood on his head and Jagr was leading the charge …Messier playing with Gretzky was n’t too bad but if you wanna be technical , 1992 -1995 was the best and it has never been the same..PRESIDENTS TROPHY and then the Stanley..wow , alot of you poster are sick of hearing about 1994 , but lets face it …that was the time !!! I was once an Oiler fan with Sather as my GM/ coach ..the team traded Coffey, Semenko , Gretsky , Kurri and then Messier and I ve had enough with that team and city ,,,I just didn’t thing Glen Sather would show up here in New York and play his hard ball with us …I am not changing teams and running from slats this time…But it seems to be happening again. This time IM not budging..Ill put up with the coaching and GM only because I have too , time will come and they will have thier day.

  114. That Jagr/Nyl/Straka video is sad. Sure they scored beautiful goals, but shouldn’t they have been skating back to check their man? They shouldn’t have been holding on to the puck — the Rangers are supposed to dump it in at the line and go for a change. And wouldn’t it have been better if Nigel Dawes was on the line? And I didn’t see 5 in the picture once. Good thing Sather knew we didn’t need any of those guys — it’s boring when your team has skill and can score. Prepare to be bored by Nylander and Ovechkin and Semin tomorrow — remember, we’re the best because we are good on the PK!

  115. ZzzzzZ Greg…. you clearly don’t get it.

    Let the adults talk about the issues surrounding the team, go play in the Garden of Dreams while you still have time.

  116. RENNEY CONFIDENT HIS JOB IS SAFE

    ——————————————

    At some point, if the losses continue to mount, even coach Tom Renney understands his job will be in jeopardy.

    For now, despite a season-worst five consecutive losses (0-4-1) entering Wednesday’s game against Washington, Renney does not believe his job is in danger or that his players have stopped playing for him.

    “It’s a question that has an inevitability to it regarding anyone’s shelf life, but I do believe they’re listening to me,” Renney told the New York Post. “I do not believe it’s reached the point where the message has become redundant.

    “I don’t believe that a change is being considered, and with the relationship I have with the organization, I think I would be aware of it if that were the case. I don’t sense we’re anywhere near that.”

  117. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    (dg) well put and actually kinda funny haha . People can come on here to rant and rave , I do not mind but its the repeat(15 times) posts that get to me ..

    (Heck) if that line didnt have Renney shoving his defense down thier throat , they would have dominated alot more and we as fans were loving it!!

  118. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    YO (salty) peanuts I do get it…Just because YOU are ONE of the POSTERS that I was refering to , go whine yer sorry ass outta here , no one likes your sad ass coments and your bitterness twards OUR Rangers! If I see any adults on here , i ‘ll let you know.

  119. Leetch is the man on

    Yea theres no point in bitching anymore, there is nothing we the fans can do. We have to hope Gomez Drury Rozy and Redded get traded and start building again or wait out their contracts. Looks like the next 2 or 3 years cud suk. How disappointing. There was such promise only a year ago.

  120. Watching that Straka, Nylander, Jagr clip reminded me that I don’t think I’ve seen one single 2 on 1 or 3 on 2 that the Rangers have scored on this year.

  121. Voice of Reason on

    Another day of changing lines, another example of Renney not getting it.

    Dawes with Gomez and Naslund (2 left wings no physical presence)

    Korpikoski with Drury and Callahan (3 shooters, nobody that can pass)

    Voros Dubinsky and Zherdev (face it Renney this worked for 2 weeks and then has not and never will again. WAKE UP)

    TRY:

    NASLUND GOMEZ PRUCHA
    DAWES DRURY CALLAHAN
    SJOSTROM DUBINSKY ZHERDEV
    KORPIKOSKI BETTS ORR

    Is it that hard?

    Let’s not talk about Renney’s Hockey IQ

    I played Major Junior, Division I College, Coached through the Junior ranks, and NEVER, I mean NEVER have I seen a Coach this oblivious in putting lines together.

    Is he a bright man? I will tell you that he has a terrific vocabulary, and that he continues to try to put square pegs through round holes….

  122. Ok So Im not gonna bitch about Renney until after the next loss. (Let’s HOPE we go on a 10 game winning streak)

    Im gonna give our beloved Team and GENIUS? head coach one last benefit of the doubt.

    But answer me this fellow Ranger fans:

    Would you, as head coach or even as an astute fan, after the last game and the 4 before that, continue to put Aaron Voros on the ice over Peter Prucha?
    And please base your answer on this stat: The last 5 game stretch Prucha played he had 4 points in 5 games.
    The last 5 game stretch for Aaron Voros – zero points
    You woudl think we could all agree were right and he is wrong?

    And Secondly: Would you not consider bringing up Artem Anisimov for a 5-10 game stint to see if more than 9 minutes of NHL ice time can get him used to the big show, and god forbid POSSIBLY score a goal or two?
    And in turn FORCE Dawes to win back his spot on the roster?
    Becasue if your a winger on the NYR and you go an entire game without even a single shot on goal, ther shoudl be some sort of repercussion.

    I welcome all my fellow insane Ranger fans answers.
    And Carp and Jane, please what do you think?

  123. Hahaha, Dawes does absolutely NOTHING, and he gets bumped up the the “1st line”. Lol, Renney lovers, care to explain this, and back this up ?

    And what the fugg is with that TSN Jagr report. Even though it was false, that’s still pretty random. At this point i don’t think Jags would consider returning to a team like the Oilers, and even the fuggin Rangers, cause they’re so embarrassing. Only a dream.

    “If I see any adults on here , i ‘ll let you know”

    Haha, everyone on here think’s they’re an adult, but everyone fights like kids. Welcome to Rangers Report. Or should i say Blueshirt Bulletin 2.0, since one of my comments were deleted last night. Next thing you know, we’ll have to start paying for this. Ugh.

  124. Please explain to me- anybody, seriously please- why the best scoring threat (Zherdev) is not on the top line? Is the point to ensure that they don’t score enough goals so that if they win 2-1, Renney can claim that his “system” (that being score no goals and pray that Henrik stands on his head) worked?

  125. Voice of Reason

    That is one of the most intelligent line combos Ive seen in a while.

    I would love to see those out there.
    But then again thats asking alot from a Proffessional head coach in the NHl isn’t it? lol

  126. In regards to Renney’s comments on him feeling his job status is safe: How many coaches saw the ax fall before they got it? Not many, I would guess. We have to keep hoping here. I’m close to losing interest in this team if this idiot doesn’t get fired. To me, it shows the organization doesn’t even care – not a bit. So if they don’t care, why should we, the fans?

  127. VOICE

    Forget that, put Pruchs with Dubi, and Nicky Z. He looked damn good with them, and for the dumbest reason, Renney took him off that line. Im not joking, i seriously think Renney thought that he was doing to good, and took him off that line out of spite.

    Pruchs must have pulled a Malik on Renney, and refused to shake his hand, cause this is completely unfair. If i was Pruchs, i don’t know, id consider bringing a pipe with me to the Garden, and going from scoring 30 goals, to swinging a pipe 30 times, with anger up t. I hate Renney !

  128. Why are we the only team that is willing to take on Avery’s contract? 1 team out of 30 and it has to be us? 10 points in 23 games for Dallas. We have one more goal then the Islanders this year! The Islanders! We have the 3rd least scoring team in the entire NHL. But yes Sean Avery will change all of that! What a disgrace. Yes that is going to turn our team around. Sather got this one! Just like Redden baby! And gomez!!!!! And Drury!!!! and Rozival!!!! Yes I cant wait to be handcuffed even more for the next 3 years atleast!! I am so happy! Our organzation is the worst. How long did it take for Isaiah Thomas to go? We are stuck with Sather and Renny forever.

  129. “Forget that, put Pruchs with Dubi, and Nicky Z. He looked damn good with them, and for the dumbest reason, Renney took him off that line. Im not joking, i seriously think Renney thought that he was doing to good, and took him off that line out of spite.”

    hahahaah i hate Renney too but this is just funny

  130. also, the cap puts more abuse on the coaches from the fans, because the cap makes trades so few and far between these days, that there is only one release valve for the fans, and that is to blame the coach.

    that said, Renney is a clueless moron.

    a nice guy, mind you, but a clueless moron nonetheless.

  131. for all of you who didnt want jagr back u need your heads examined. gomez and drury are useless and redden is a complete waste of a life.

  132. Mikey in NJ

    “”Would you, as head coach or even as an astute fan, after the last game and the 4 before that, continue to put Aaron Voros on the ice over Peter Prucha?
    And please base your answer on this stat: The last 5 game stretch Prucha played he had 4 points in 5 games.
    The last 5 game stretch for Aaron Voros – zero points
    You woudl think we could all agree were right and he is wrong?

    And Secondly: Would you not consider bringing up Artem Anisimov for a 5-10 game stint to see if more than 9 minutes of NHL ice time can get him used to the big show, and god forbid POSSIBLY score a goal or two?
    And in turn FORCE Dawes to win back his spot on the roster?
    Becasue if your a winger on the NYR and you go an entire game without even a single shot on goal, ther shoudl be some sort of repercussion.””

    Good points! I want an explanation from Renney and the beat writers should not let this question go unanswered.

  133. interesting point by Bob McKenzie…TSN

    http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=266491

    If the Dallas Stars leave Sean Avery in Hartford, they pay $$00$$ zero of his salary….

    If the bring him back via the Re-Entry Waiver, they pay 1/2 his salary….

    Why would they bring him back??

    And if he really is “re-rehabilitated”, do we think Sean would report/be glad, to play for a team like Edmonton or Atlanta…because they are going to have first crack at him??

    The re-entry would be just like sloppy seconds, 1/2 price, refurbished, etc.

  134. PRUCHA

    I know what you mean. For me, im kind of done with this team, im a huge fan, but im not gonna go nuts for a team that clearly doesn’t care. These guys will play every game, and wont miss a shift, thank to the best coach in the NHL. They’ll keep putting up the effort that they give, cause that’s all Renney will get out of them.

    Ive said this so many times, but i really hope the losing teams can start winning, and we start losing badly, and become sellers by the deadline. The chance of having a young player like Tavares or Hedman, to build around in the future, that’s worth tanking a year. At least they’ll be a piece of the future to look forward too. Right now we have decent young talent, and greedy vets who just care aboot money.

    This season is lost. Even if they make the playoffs, they wont get passed any of these teams. They’ll have to verse the Devils, Caps, or Bruins, and how will that go ? Lol, honestly id rather not know.

  135. Haha, everyone on here think’s they’re an adult, but everyone fights like kids.

    …..

    arguing is inevitable, but every one of ZZGregs posts reads as if the Tazmanian Devil had a few lungfuls full of meth smoke and decided he wants to get on a blog and talk about the Rangers. It literally hurts my brain to read that jibberish, yet I can’t look away from the car wreck knowing Greg is 40something and that’s what comes out of his brain. Gitta love the support…but damn… doesn’t seem to like thinking too much.

    (Be on the look out for ZzZzalty, coming soon.)

  136. I absolutely don’t know what’s happened to the Rangers. it’s almost impossible that a team that set a record for the most points gained in team history in their first 13 games can be playing as poorly as they are now. They’ve seemed outclassed in the last few games. All I want is for them to compete! The recent performances have been painful for fans to watch. As the man says on Weekend Update in commenting on the fiscal crisis: FIX IT!!

  137. Orr

    Rooting for this team is like being the star defense lawyer for a guy who just wants to plead guilty to all charges.

  138. thanks jay & jason

    do you think if Edmonton/Phoenix/Islanders picked him up he would go quietly?

  139. I don’t think Phoenix is in any way able to take on a higher payroll but as for Edmonton or the Islanders. I don’t think he has much of a choice. No matter what happens with Sean Avery, the NHL will keep a very close eye on him to make sure he doesn’t step out of line in anyway.

  140. Voice of Reason on

    To Orr’s Right Hand:

    I didn’t mind Prucha with Dubinsky and Zherdev at all. However he shoots right, and has a hard time in his zone on the boards breaking out when he plays the left side.

    With Gomez and Naslund he’s on his natural side, and those two are so apathetic, they need his fire.

    To Drew: This team’s first three lines are interchangeable. The reason Zherdev doesn’t play with Gomez is because they both want to carry the puck through the neutral zone and pass. Not enough pucks for them to play together. The reason he doesn’t play with Drury, is that Drury is a right handed shooting center who makes his natural pass to the left wing. Dubinsky has demonstrated (last year with Jagr) that he can work well with a wing that carries the puck. The problem is that Renney does not put a grinding, go to the net winger with those two. He thinks Voros is that guy but he doesn’t skate well enough.

    To MikeyNJ…thanks..let’s hope he wakes up before its too late

  141. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    (Salty and peppa)
    Looks like you don’t like thinking too much cuz that last post from you was quoting me…it was ORR that made that comment not me!! Before you start calling people a dummy try not acting like one in the post your flapping in. Reread it , it was Orr you donk.

  142. C’mon Tom you’re better than these “new” combos. Been there and done that. How is Redden not benched?

  143. mikey mcdick section 312 on

    man i miss the avery fist pump celebration when he scores. I really hope we claim him off waivers.

  144. Too bad Avery didn’t just marry a man, instead of making disparaging remarks re some high-visability slut-bag females, in which case the media would love him, he would not have been suspended, would not have been forced to undergo P.C. therapeutic counseling, and would not have missed a game, nor lost considerable salary.

    Some society we live in. And letting the sneakey P.C. Bettman-type cretins of the world infiltrate the NHL at the top level opens the door for more of this garbage to come down – when men act and talk like men, which few men even dare to do anymore, given all the legal, political, financial, and social ramifications they are made to suffer.

    Today, in Albany, the fag brigade is mourning over not quite succeeding in being able to ram homo-marriage down our throats, quite yet. Stay tuned. Gee, wonder if, if the name of “equality” (actually “immorality”) they can get it done soon so that we can just move on and corrupt every kid in the state over the age of six. I tip my hat to real men like Sean Avery. He is just what the Rangers need, someone who is a leader and not afraid to put himself on the line on and off the ice.

    Welcome back, Sean. I say you are a great example for the younger players in Hartford to develop their game and their mental toughness with.

  145. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    Looks like were stuck with what we got in Renney , Gomez, Drury , Redden and Rozival,,so what we do now is live with what we got …so far so good ..looks like we can’t score , can’t play consistant defense and can’t win. We do have the Number 1 PK …strangee hmmm , We add Avery and all his crap and yeah it stirs the pot and maybe he calls out all the floaters on the team ?

  146. The way to win hockey games is to score more goals than your opposition. The way to stop the opposition from scoring is to keep the puck away from them. Dumping the puck in and sending 1 forward in to play it while everyone sits back to protect against an odd man rush is weak. And if Hank really is a top tier tender…. why are we so worried about an odd man rush here and there? Why do we never clear guys away from our net? Why do we never have anyone in front of theirs? Why do we only have 2 hits this season from anyone not named Ryan Callahan? Why do players get reprimanded for playing offense? Why do our top 2 scorers have the same amount of goals as the Devils top 1? Christ…. the devils !!!!!
    Why……… because Renney (or the guy that pulls his strings) does not understand the game of hockey. It reminds me of Newman trying to get his team to play “old time hockey” and getting creamed. Renney and his staff are killing us more than the players.
    I could go on forever on this, !

  147. I don’t believe Avery is truly rehabilitated, I expect him to pull a Harvey Dent/Two Face from Batman who went through “rehabilitation” every five years in comics and reverted back to a life of crime; the moral-you can’t cure a sociopath. I’d love to see Avery as a Born Again who preaches to Carp and Jane and talks in New Testament lingo with white suits and everything.

    Here’s another insult to injury-Do you all know that Redden has about as many points as former Rangers defensive juggernaut Miroslav Horava!!!! That’s right kiddies. Miro freaking Horava. At least he scored a clutch goal to help them win a division.

  148. I don’t see how Dawes or Voros are still in the lineup. I would take a 6th round pick for both of them. Dawes is at best a 3rd liner in the nhl when he is on his A game. If getting avery means renney doesnt get canned i say let avery rot in hartford. i dont think renney is a smart man, nor is he a nice guy and her certainly isn’t a good coach.

    Carp can you ask this clown to explain the logic of his lines and why he doesn’t bench his vets? Im sure he will give a bs answer claiming these guys are battle tested, but this team is deteriorating before our eyes (it was bound to happen one of these years) and the future doesn’t look too bright either

  149. (Salty and peppa)
    Looks like you don’t like thinking too much cuz that last post from you was quoting me…it was ORR that made that comment not me!! Before you start calling people a dummy try not acting like one in the post your flapping in. Reread it , it was Orr you donk.

    ….

    I was responding to Welcher ORR, wtf is your glitch? You boggle my mind.

    P.S. There is no Santa. It’s your parents. Sorry to break it to you Greg.

  150. Here’s my prediction in case anyone cares; the Rangers make the playoffs in the final week of the season as an 8th seed and go all 1986 with a miraculous trip to the Conference Finals only to bow out to Washington. Prucha is reinserted into the lineup and becomes this year’s Pierre LaRouche and Sather laughs in all are faces chomping his cigar and smirking like George Peoppard from the A-Team.

  151. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    Q / A on our Fav topics.

    Bench Voros : NO , we will need him come playoffs ( if we make it) so put him on the 4th line to replace Orr when Orrs in the box.

    Fire Renney :YES , if NJ fired there coach right before the playoffs and still won , yeah i ‘d say hire torts for the cup run!!

    Strip Drury of his Captaincy : YES , Drury can’t handle the pressure and give it to Dubinsky ( if crosby can , so can Dubi)

    Bring in Avery : YES , if we can’t get rid of anyone why not add someone to mix things up and add grit. We still are small and need bigger players but as of right now , Avery is on the menu.

    Bring Prucha in the line up : HELL YEAH , the fans want him because he plays with passion!!! He is all heart and our coach is nuts not to play him!! Prucha is better than Dawes.

    Release Redden: YES , this would finnaly show people that it aint no PIC NIC in RANGER land!! Bring up a young defensman and well take his youth over a washed out Redden.

    Bench Gomez : NO , put him on the 4th line or better yet on defense so he can pretend hes Paul Coffey!!

  152. it’s no surprise that Pronger is on the trade block. if Dawes walks around you for a goal, you SHOULD be traded.

  153. Hey Renney how about try these lines

    Marcus Naslund Chris Drury Nikolai Zherdev
    can set up Drury or Naslund for a shot
    Petr Prucha Brandon Dubinsky Ryan Callahan
    speed and constant pressure draw penalties
    Nigel Dawes Scott Gomez Lauri Korpikoski
    maybe will get going against other teams 3rd lines
    Fredrik Sjostrom Blair Betts Colton Orr
    should really be the 3rd line

    take Gomez and Redden of the 1st unit PP unless your going to let Redden pinch he’s not comfortable in a defensive system can’t you see that!!

  154. Yeah thats what he did in Ottawa he never stayed back he always had someone to pass to Heatley Alfredsson he’s always caught flat footed and holding on to the puck to long he always burned us when he wa son the other team, Renneys system is where players come to die,just look at kalinin he’s lost to, too many offensive Dman

  155. Tom Renney as a child

    Tom: Maybe if i put the peanutbutter on top of the jelly, it would work better, i mean its not the same thing as the jelly on top of the peanutbutter
    Mom: Hunh?
    Tom: It’s different, since it’s in a different order, and its almost repackaged in a way where the combo has similarities but their equally different.
    Mom: Tom it’s a ****ing PB and J sandwich, no matter what order, you not going to change it.

    Am i going insane? Maybe, but comparing the Rangers to food made me hungry.

  156. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Guys,check out rodents site.On it,he has a link to what is called a Renney line generater .If you click on it.you will see lines generated from the players on the roster.Of caourse Peter prucha is a healthy scratch.Take a look,it’s at least entertaining.

  157. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    I think Renney uses that line generater to create his new lines every game.

  158. Doodie Machetto February 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    TSN REPORTING THAT TOM RENNEY HAS BEEN FIRED.. DETAILS TO FOLLLOW SOON

    I wish.

  159. Doodie Machetto on

    if only, if only… but honestly, how many people just checked TSN with anxious smiles on their faces?

  160. Hey guys! Been trying to respond to you all day but work interrupted. MikeA, i liked your ATeam/Sather reference, very good! A little insulting to George Peppard, but what can ya do.

    Lets try to lighten the mood up a little bit on a non game day… What is your absolute favorite Renney-ism? I think if the ‘battle tested’ thing comes up again, I am just going to lose my mind! He does pull out some impressive $20 words at times.

    One more question, I’m going to Nashville to see the Rangers and Preds..do I wear the jersey or not? My fiance is a bodybuilder, so it’s not a matter of me getting in a fight and needing protection lol…do I wear the jersey with a brown paper bag over my head? Do I bring a FIRE SATHER sign with me? Do I take Liquids photo of Renney from last night and put it on a sign that says SNAP ON, BATTLE TESTED and Conundrum?

  161. that line generator is outstanding! It’s Redden like in its stealthy moves! Wait I just clicked it again and a line of Dean Talafous-Mikko Leinonen-Claude LaRose and a d pairing of Andre Dore and Mario Marois!

  162. if i were Sather i would…

    1. Become sellers at the deadline, considering the need for basically anything is satisfied, there is a market for the crappy players we have at the deadline.

    2. Shop Redden, Rozsival, Gomez for picks.

    3. Strip Drury of the C

    4. Fire Tom Renney and Perry Pearn, Mike Pelino is a good coach. Must i talk about the other two more?

    5. LET OUR YOUNG GUYS RUN THE TEAM. Trade for a player like Bill Guerin, a good leader with a good shot. You only need one or two older guys on the team and they dont have to be on the first line.

    6. Draft SIZE AND SKILL. We dont need any more small speedy players. Brandon Dubinsky needs to be made the FIRST LINE CENTER (REMEMBER THAT?)

    7. Stop buying the #1 free agent on the market, what we need is c-h-e-m-i-s-t-r-y. This team lacks chemistry so bad its not even funny. It hasnt had any chemistry since the first few weeks of the season.

    8. Pick up guys like Jay Bouwmeester and build around him. I’d trade any person on our top line for him. Having a backline with JayBo and Staal would solidify things for a very long time. JayBo is 29 and in his prime. Staal is a kid at 21.

    9. Stop Signing free agents that dont make sense! This sucks! STOP DOING THIS!

    Why did we have to get Gomez AND Drury?

    Do you all realize we had the chance to build around Zdeno Chara and said “he isnt worth it”?

    This team has been obscenely hilarious with the spending, it has to stop. the Yankees haven’t won since 2000. We havent won since 94. We need some winning teams and some new attitudes. Screw this year, this year is done-for. A first round team at best.

    thats my two cents

  163. It would be funny if Avery came out onto the ice for warmups for Fridays AHL game dressed like the Gimp from Pulp Fiction…..

    And over the rinks PA, they play some crazy goth metal music….

    Crowd would go nuts

  164. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m watching the Bruins/San Jose game. Boston is so good that the Rangers 1-0 result is actually something to be proud of, not even kidding.

    How I covet Boston’s youth. How many of them are just pure studs? And look at Boston’s cap structure. Manny Fernandez has the free agent contract, but it was only 4.333 million!. Their #1 center, Savard, is only paid 5 million a year. Chara has a bigger contract (7.5), but unlike our “#1″ defenseman, he is one of the premier defensemen in the league. After that, they have 2 guys with 4+ million (Ryder, Bergeron). Then they have two guys between 3 and 4 million (Wideman, Sturm). After that, they have 4 guys between 2 and 3 million. Then they have 3 guys between 1 and 2 million. Everyone else is less than a million.

  165. Everyone is saying avery will be signed etc etc. But in order to do that room has to be made so if he does come lets hope kalinin and voros are the ones gone.
    Thanks czech or Eric

  166. Scott Kay- Why would teams take a contract like Gomez or Redden, and give up draft picks for them? If you want to give them up you need to take bad contracts back.

  167. I apologize if this is a repost, but funny stuff today from Pierre LeBrun at ESPN.com on the Rangers and Habs faltering seasons:

    ” . . . Otherwise, Rangers GM Glen Sather has a more complicated scenario in front of him compared to his Montreal counterpart, Bob Gainey. The long-term, nearly untradable contracts of Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, Wade Redden and Michal Rozsival (nice season, boys) have tied Sather’s hands in a pretty serious way. There’s no blowing up this baby.”

    Of course, LeBrun should be blaming Sather for signing these clowns in the first place, rather than blaming them for tying Sather’s hands. But, whatever.

  168. Doodie Machetto on

    Scott I like a lot of what you said, but then I saw this:

    “7. Stop buying the #1 free agent on the market, what we need is c-h-e-m-i-s-t-r-y. This team lacks chemistry so bad its not even funny. It hasnt had any chemistry since the first few weeks of the season.

    8. Pick up guys like Jay Bouwmeester and build around him. I’d trade any person on our top line for him. Having a backline with JayBo and Staal would solidify things for a very long time. JayBo is 29 and in his prime. Staal is a kid at 21.”

    Stop buying the #1 free agent… but then you say to buy the #1 free agent?

    Forget JBo. We should go for Komisarek instead. We have offensive D in the pipeline between Sanguinetti and MDZ.

    But yes, I would trade Gomez and Redden for ANYTHING, or waive them. I’d keep Rozsival for now though, he’s really been turning his play around. With a change of coaches he could really shine (read:shoot more).

  169. Doodie Machetto on

    Vince, no room salary wise would have to be made for Avery.

    Roster wise, I imagine Dawes would lose his spot in the lineup.

  170. VinceA
    February 10th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    Everyone is saying avery will be signed etc etc. But in order to do that room has to be made so if he does come lets hope kalinin and voros are the ones gone.
    Thanks czech or Eric
    ………….

    They have about 1.06million left this season and Avery’s contract would be a pro-rated 1.95million which comes out to about 650-700K for the rest of the season. So THIS YEAR, they have the cap space.

  171. FYI for all you captain crutch fans:

    NHL Network
    Thursday 2/12/09
    Captains Driven by Bridgestone: Chris Drury

    Don’t worry if you miss it, he try to not let it ruin his Christmas.

  172. andy
    February 10th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
    FYI for all you captain crutch fans:

    NHL Network
    Thursday 2/12/09
    Captains Driven by Bridgestone: Chris Drury

    Don’t worry if you miss it, he try to not let it ruin his Christmas.
    …………

    And by that Drury meant he still collects his paycheck for all the gifts he bought his son Drew Drury, he’s actually never had a BETTER christmas.

  173. I’m a closet Blue Jackets fan…dont know why; they actually play “more boring” hockey then the Rangers do ( yes its possible)the only thing is…these retreads are riddled with injuries and yet the retreads:Torres-Peca-Huselius-Boll-Modin-Malholtra-Murray-Williams-Umberger-Russel-Commodore etc somehow play a real system…Hitchcock has Nash and Vorocek and this cast of 1000’s playing what everyone who supports Renney wish that Renny really played…a tight, checking, very few chance defense with the ability to counter attack for maybe 3-5 real chances a game…and they score 3!!

  174. i watched Renney’s interview on the NYR web page and his demeanor is completely carefree. Like nothing bothers him, like they are still in 1st place. Smiling and laughing. “Its a confidence problem” Laughable….

    Oh Tom, you have no clue…

  175. Agravaine thats pretty crazy! Are you down south, or just making the trip? Nice to know I won’t be the only Rangers fan down there! Bring your FIRE SATHER sign!

  176. Hey carp i dont really know where else to write this but i remember you writing an article on my brother my friend and i after we all got into a car accident on our way to our high school hockey game. Just came across the article the other night and wanted to say good job, hopefully you’ll remember.

  177. I am in Huntsville Alabama, land of Redstone Arsenal, NASA, contractors and TONS of engineers! I usually fly out of Nashville when I visit NY, but we are gonna stay in town for a couple of days after the game to enjoy the Music City. We have a local SPHL team about 8 minutes from our place, so I do get the live hockey fix. Worst part about here is that I can’t get DirecTV because we don’t have a clear shot of the southwestern sky, so I”m watchin Rangers games on the computer. Thankfully, I get to read the hometown papers and come across blogs like this with a lot of interesting, funny, smart participants! Makes it a bit easier, even though I don’t get the post game wrap ups!

  178. Panthers tied the game with the Leafs. Panthers were down 4-1 in the 3rd, not good news for the Rangers.

  179. Linda this is a great blog. I liked Sam but Carp is cool too :)

    Another good Ranger site is nyrnation.com It has a forum attached which is really great, like this board… I wish more from this board would come over as well but its cool.

    I love Nashville but I like country music so that helps. We are driving down from NY for a week so we scheduled it around the game

  180. All Hail King Henrik on

    Renney Vs. Sather

    I realized something today that is quite obvious. Tom Renney’s coaching practices (and I don’t mean the system) have left the spotlight shining brightly on him, with regards to this team’s current issues. He appears at fault for all of it.

    Because of the way he treats veteran players (i.e. not benching them, or still giving them tons of ice time despite performance), he has put the onus on himself.

    Tom Renney is certainly part of the problem, but he’s a small part of the problem in contrast to Sather and the roster he has assembled.

    If Renney were doing what we’ve been calling for all season (benching/scratching/holding accountable underperforming players) perhaps the onus would be on Sather (as it rightfully should be) for this team’s failures.

    Fans would/should be calling for Sather’s head, instead of Renney’s.

    In playing Redden, Gomez, Drury and Rozsival, Renney has only buried himself. If he had been scratching/benching those players in the beginning of the season when we were winning (WITHOUT contributions from them), he would have that to point to as evidence that the problem is not only him, but the roster of which he was dealt.

    If I’m Tom Renney, I’m scratching Redden and Gomez tomorrow against the caps, and putting Drury on the 3rd or 4th line. This says to the fans that hey—this isn’t all my fault. The underperforming, overpaid players have a lot to do with it as well. Don’t just look to fault me, but look at the big guy upstairs. The guy who signed these players—Sather.

    By being the nice guy and “respecting” the veteran players, Renney has only buried himself.

  181. something to chew on

    rangers trail leafs 4-1 in 3rd just like panthers did tonite do they come back?

    answer

    NO WHY NO FREAKING HEART. PLAYOFFS ARE LONG GONE EVEN THOUGH AT MOMENT WE ARE IN.

    NO SHOT WE GET IN

  182. All Hail King Henrik

    Great point! I agree! That’s exactly what I’m talking about when I say we need a coach with gonads to bench the high priced fat cat veterans. He seems to play favorites or he is just a weak yes-man for Sather. Something has to give, and soon.

  183. Any true Ranger fans at the Garden tomorrow evening had better make it known that RENNEY and SATHER MUST GO. Make sure that the TV microphones pick up the chant.

    Substitute RENNEY every time the blue seats start up that chant about Potvin.

    I smell a hat trick for Ovechkin. I think a 5-1 pasting will pretty much put Renney out of his misery.

  184. I’m starting to doubt we will ever be rid of Renney, rocketnyr. I hope I’m wrong but everyone around the league praises him to no end. It’s sickening.

  185. boxcareddiehospodar on

    Like I care how Drury feels about Avery.

    Maybe Avery called out Gomez and Drury last year during the playoff run and that’s why they don’t want him back.

  186. Tom Renney forgets more hockey than he knows… I say… Tom Renney doesn’t know much about hockey and then forgets the rest of what he knows (does that make any sense?)

  187. Can you believe Dominic Moore has 36 pts. That would be tied for 2nd with Gomez on our team! Oh yea and Sundin got 2 more goals tonight

  188. doodie's butler on

    you spoke too soon, doodie. the Bruins melted in the last 30 mins, and got their ass handed to them by the Sharks.

    the east is not as good as the west

  189. I’m in – Just bought tickets to the Wolfpack Game Saturday night! Gonna go see the Avery Show!! – Hey, it’s gotta be more exciting than the Rangers!!

  190. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

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  191. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    and how many of those points are goals? yea you see how every player that comes here, leaves here and goes on to do better than they would have if they had stayed. u think its coincidence that its the case year after year

  192. Avery showed a lot of guts last season in the playoffs playing with a ruptured spleen. More than his [ex] teammates show on a nightly basis.

  193. Jerkins
    Moore is with the Leafs, so can’t even say it’s a product of being on a good team! 11 goals 25 assists

  194. Linda-either wear your jersey or wear a t-shirt with the no-smoking aka Ghostbusters sign but instead of a cigarette have the faces of Dolan, Sather, Redden, Gomez, and Drury or at least one of them.

    Hey guys and gals I figured out how to fix the Rangers tonight while on the treadmill. Seriously; trade Rozi during the off season to someone who needs a D and throw in a pick to get him outta here and sign Mike Komisarek to the same contract as Rozi. Keep Redden around but limit his role to 3rd pair with no PP, bring up Sanguinetti and then you can pair him with either Girardi/Staal/Komisarek and Redden with the other to “cover up” for their pinching in, etc.

    I’d also sacrifice 2/3ds of the 4th line and along with Prucha and Kalinin’s salary and Korpi’s salary reduction and sign Alex Tangauy for a two year deal to play with Gomez and Naslund, and AA can play 4th line and get some PP time.

    Grachev stays in juniors one more year to not rush him and either Weisse, Byers, Owens, or Paranteau plays 4th line.

    Thoughts?

  195. Haha, pretty good NYRinPHX. I have many stray thoughts when I run and at work too, it’s like what George Carlin used to say “These are the thoughts that keep me out of the really high society places in this world.”

    It’s too bad I’m so passionate about the Rangers and can’t make any money off of it. If I owned the team I’d get back the Sasson jeans gang to sing for the crowd.

  196. doodie's butler on

    Fla. now 3 pts behind Rangers with a game in hand.

    Renney supporters, tell us how a rookie coach from the junior ranks can get more out of less talent than the Rangers have?

  197. Of course I can beleive Dominic Moore has 36 points. That guy never stops working, and he has more finish than most give him credit for. Which is obvious…as he has…36…points!!
    Way to go Dominic.

  198. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    butler- panthers got some talent but mostly its hard work. crashin the net and they got some confidence now. rangers are lazy. they get beat to loose pucks, get worked off the puck or they either get the puck and cant figure out what to do with it. one thing about zherdev is for every really nice play he makes, he makes 10 stupid or nonproductive ones. drury is ok but hes not captain material. i think he might feel too much pressure because theres nobody else on the team to really kick these guys in the ass. and then theres gomez, man this guy is freakin fast man but he needs scoring wingers. naslund sucks hes too old he cant keep up. redden is just flat out terrible. these guys all have underperformed at the exact same time and thats been how it is for the last month or so. i bet you if they got payed based on performance we’d win 10-2 instead of lose 10-2. betts, hank, staal uhhh maybe cally would be millionaires and dru, gome, naz, redden dawes, would all be janitors at the local methadone clinic, well redden would actually be a patient too.

  199. Remember everyone, 3 other teams gave up on Moore (Pitt/Nash/Minn) so this is not like it was a HUGE blunder. He was a good player for the Rangers, but they tried to make a power winger out of Hall and it failed, and he was pretty much interchangeable with Betts back in those days. I’m glad, good for him! Tor isn’t gonna contend for a few years, so hopefully Moore finds his way onto a Cup contender as a role player. I love when guys like Ortmeyer/Moore who were hard workers win the Cup; I was happy for Mikael Samuelson.

  200. These mopes lost out on the best two way defensive player that they’ve had in years when they let Dupuis get away from them.( And they hung on to Marcel Hossa. Talk about clue less.

  201. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    dupuis played 1 game i think for us and scored in that 1 game. lol and then we dumped him for jason krog i think. not sure. fran- sather has given up on so many good players. some much better than dupuis but you can see the team he put together this year just doesnt have any chemistry at all. they bump into each other get caught out of position all the time, they dont score and have one of the weakest d corp meaning non physical in the league

  202. 0necupin67years on

    I could never figure out what kind of team sather was putting together,def. minded? off. minded?
    They don’t have a bid bruising winger or d man.
    But , instead have a bunch of squirrels on skates.
    Then ,what kind of coach do you have?
    you can count on one hand when you see a ranger in front of the oppositions net, maybe on the PP.Seldom at even strength.

    In the devil game , Drury skates over the blue line and slaps the puck from above the circle.They take too many long shots that account for bogus SOG.

    This team is ugly.

  203. I could never figure out what kind of team sather was putting together,def. minded? off. minded?
    ……………

    He was trying to re-build the Sabres! They were supposed to be a transition based team that generated offensive from forechecking and speed through the neutral zone.

    And that’s ACTUALLY what they did when they started the season 10-2-1!! Everyone saying this team is HORRIBLE because of the players Sather put on it (and not Renney) needs to explain how they started the season with the best record in the Rangers history for season starts!!

  204. And that’s ACTUALLY what they did when they started the season 10-2-1!! Everyone saying this team is HORRIBLE because of the players Sather put on it (and not Renney) needs to explain how they started the season with the best record in the Rangers history for season starts!!

    ……….

    true story.

  205. Naw Perk-Dupuis plays liked 10 games and was dealt for Alex Bourret who was projected to be a good player but never really panned out. He was traded to Phoenix to get the pick to draft Kundratek I believe he just MIGHT be another pick like Zubov (not that good offensively but in the “no one has ever heard of him mysterious European turns out to be good player under the radar pick”). Dupuis being dealt FINALLY opened a roster spot for Cally who along with Anisimov is my favorite player in the entire organization; hard working, 100% effort, always willing to improve, plays dirty.

  206. Nathan Horton hears a who on

    Sather and Renney have a BIGGER problem than the team tuning him out…….the fans are about to tune them out. Money is the only thing that really matters to this organization.

  207. Beginning with the Nov. 22 match in Ottawa, Wade Redden has played 32 games during which he has recorded one point on the power play in 89:34 of time, that an assist on the OT winner in Chicago on Jan. 16. In other words, Redden does not have a five-on-four PP point in almost three months while leading the club’s point men in ice-time at 3:35 per. He has six PP points (1-5) overall.

    Larry Brooks dropping knowledge!

  208. i know now everyone wants to include Sather with Renney. but wouldn’t you like to see what some of these guys could do with a real coach before we blame sather as well. Drury,Gomez,and many others, did they just become bad hockey players or is there something(or someone) in their way. they were pretty good players before they got here, and i suspect they still are good hockey players. they just need some freedom.

  209. RICK time to grill Renney on not holding anyone accountable. What vet is he willing to scratch from the lineup out of Gomez, Naslund, Redden, & Roszival? He won’t do any, that’s how credible his words are. He expects to get respect? The guy is pitiful. He accepts whatever they give him. That’s not Sather’s fault, the roster is. And the players are not playing as a TEAM. Most guilty party is TOM RENNEY!Time for Dolan to clean house or sell out.

  210. jerkins perkins(mike in ia) on

    mike a- yea thats why i said not sure. it seemed like he played only 1 game but i just remember him scoring in his first game. i think he got here around the same time avery did. either way i dont miss him, but man id certainly like to miss about half the guys we got here now. i cant get up for games anymore and when we get scored on or play like crap i just dont care anymore. i got used to this team sucking and if they win its either sooo very close or we beat a team that should be beat and not convincingly. i cant see how we our almost dead last in scoring and how pearn who runs the speacial teams can have such a good pk but an equally opposite pp. i really think that renny has these guys not takin chances after all those shorties. everyone sems to just wanna not make a mistake by putting too much pressure and leading to an odd man rush where hank has let in a lot of those kinda goals this year.

  211. zZzZ 13 ZzZz rules!! on

    Yo Jerkins , old man Salty maybe funny to you but If he tried to steal your name on here I think you would n’t be so nice. Salty is a thief if he tries and Ill always refer to him as wanna be me ZZZZZZ . or Thief….Why doesnt Salty go back to his old name .. Graves9??

  212. I watched some of the Bruins Sharks game last night. Thinking further about it, the Rangers are peewees compared to those two teams. It’s as if they play a different sport.

    In that game, every time a guy touches the puck, someone on the other team hits him. Chara in his zone getting rid of the puck, Clowe hits him. Joe Thornton in the offensive zone passing the puck, Shawn Thornton hits him. Marleau in center ice dishing the puck off, Lucic hits him. You get my point. This game highlighted to me how far below the standard the Rangers are.

    In addition, I watched the powerplays work. Everyone is mobile, puck movement is constant, no one stands around. How the F the Rangers didn’t go after a guy like Boyle or or Campbell or Richards or Streit to QB the PP from the point is just beyond me?!? Instead we got Redden who is like an invalid out there. I mean did Sather try and get the worst guy out there?

    Depressing.

  213. Peter

    Its so sad when there is running jokes about how often he changes lines, (that link had me laughing for a half hour). I mean I dont even want to watch them any more. But I will watch tonight :)

  214. Newman

    I was JUST talking to my co-worker about that game. I mean THOSE are hockey teams. Just so deep on every line SJ is just a wicked team. BUT the Rangers DID give them a run for their money. Why cant cant open up like that “attack attack attack, forecheck, hit, pressure” is beyond me.

  215. from japersrink.com (caps blog)

    “As for the Rangers, since that glorious night, they’ve gone 7-8-2 (including 0-4-1 in their last five), have been shutout three times, allowed ten goals against in a single game, and are seemingly moments away from bringing Sean Avery back to Manhattan for an encore performance of his one-man off-Broadway show, “Weapon of Mass Douchestruction.” Good luck with that.

    But every game on the NHL schedule presents new challenges, and it’s rarely easy sledding on the road, so expect a close game. Oh, and if the Caps dig themselves an early hole, you might not want to change the channel – you never know what might happen next.”

  216. yikes. from that broooks article:

    “Beginning with the Nov. 22 match in Ottawa, Wade Redden has played 32 games during which he has recorded one point on the power play in 89:34 of time, that an assist on the OT winner in Chicago on Jan. 16. In other words, Redden does not have a five-on-four PP point in almost three months while leading the club’s point men in ice-time at 3:35 per. He has six PP points (1-5) overall.”

  217. Thanks Domi….

    Strikes me funny that he’s wearing a visor since he made those comments about players with visors running players… and so the circus begins

  218. Carp

    Im not bashing today, Im trying to be positive
    So if you could PLEASE give me some positive, intellignet news once you find out today, that PRUCHA is in the line-up and VOROS is sitting, or Dawes is sitting.

    PLEASE? PLEASSSSSSSSSSSE?

    That would make my day and give me some glimmer of hope that we POSSIBLY could win tonight.

    Also anyone know the stat of games won-loss with Voros in the lineup?
    Jsut curious

  219. Anybody know where I can find this stat?

    We know about % points earned right? How about % points given/earned against? Interesting to see where we rank in the league when you take into account 3 point OT games…

  220. jerkin

    yea I tried to copy it form a myspace bulletin I wrote for my friend… I wanted everyone to know that Stan was going to be on the radio program on Thurs, because Stan was always vocal on Avery (in true fashion he loved him when he was here and blasted him when he left, now he is calling for “The Great Gabbo’s” Return)

    and then the next Thurs is a guy from Hartford. They scheduled him to talk about the prospects in Hartford but I bet he will be talking a lot about Avery’s situation as well…

    I truly respect the people on this blog and wanted to give y’all another forum to spread your hockey knowledge (and humor)

    Fans can call in with questions or comments by dialing (347) 884-8692

    Or listen to the show live on http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nyrnationradio

    since I didn’t copy this I hope there will be no ?’s…

  221. Why does everyone think that it is a foregone conclusion that Avery will end up with the Rangers. There are 29 other teams that can take him and I am sure that the Rangers are not the only team looking at him. Someone else I am sure is willing to gamble for the discounted price tag. Plus…do you really think he is going to help this sinking ship all that much?? Im not so sure about that…

  222. Slappy

    I think other teams might claim him to see if the Rangers are desperate enough to make a trade as well… even if they don’t want him they can just tuck him in the minors…

  223. I was just thining this Avery thing is pure genius…with the penalties he’ll take and the increased scrutiny the team will get from the refs we’ll never be on the power play…which is actually a net positive for this team…

  224. Agravine

    I wanted a spread of the entire league, but while we’re at it….

    we’ve given up 61 points in 54 games… that means teams get %56 of the points available to them…

    we have earned 63 of a possible 108 points…thats %58.

    wow this is weird. i hope other teams reflect this wee little diffrence between points earned and points given.

  225. Doodie Machetto on

    Ugh. Avery rejoining the team. Things are just getting worse.

    Don’t get me wrong, at 2 million a year, it’s not a bad deal. Sean can play, although I think he has definitely been overrate by a lot of Ranger fans due to that “record in the lineup” stat that’s about as meaningful as plus/minus. Marek Malik had a good one going for him until last year, Paul Mara had a better one than Avery after both of their respective moves to the team in 06-07, and really it all revolved around mid season slumps due to Henrik Lundqvist’s inconsistency, and last year additionally to Jagr turning on the jets for the stretch run.

    Sorry, got a little off point. Avery is worth 2 million a year. He’s never had 20 goals, never had 50 points. He doesn’t have size and isn’t especially fast. He’s a 2 million a year player. Point is, Avery’s 2 million would be OK with me, if that 2 million wasn’t going to come at the expense of some our better young players, like Zherdev, Staal, and Dubinsky. With the contracts we’ve been saddled with (Redden, Drury, Gomez, and to a lesser extent, Lundqvist, Naslund, and Rozsival), we could really use that 2 million to help us resign some of our important core guys.

    If during the offseason, Slats saved 3 million on Redden and signed Mark Streit to a 4.5 million deal, I would have no problem with Avery joining the team. But fact is, we need the money now and in the future more than we need Avery now and in the future.

    Honestly, does anyone REALLY think Avery is going to turn this team around? Suppose they right things a little bit and make the playoffs, does anyone think this team is going anywhere? All it will do is hurt our cap for the future, our draft prospects (if things turn around), give Dolan an excuse to raise ticket prices, and probably give Renney a stay of execution. I hope all of that is worth a first or second round exit.

  226. Carp,

    Last time Prucha scored was Jan 3rd vs Washington. Just a disgrace that he is not in the lineup tonight!!

    He can’t be tired. What is Renney’s excuse??

  227. doodie's butler on

    isn’t especially fast? doodie in your pants. Avery is a fast skater, if you can’t see that you are clueless.

  228. Doodie Machetto
    February 11th, 2009 at 11:30 am
    Ugh. Avery rejoining the team. Things are just getting worse.

    Don’t get me wrong, at 2 million a year, it’s not a bad deal. Sean can play, although I think he has definitely been overrate by a lot of Ranger fans due to that “record in the lineup” stat that’s about as meaningful as plus/minus. Marek Malik had a good one going for him until last year, Paul Mara had a better one than Avery after both of their respective moves to the team in 06-07, and really it all revolved around mid season slumps due to Henrik Lundqvist’s inconsistency, and last year additionally to Jagr turning on the jets for the stretch run.

    Sorry, got a little off point. Avery is worth 2 million a year. He’s never had 20 goals, never had 50 points. He doesn’t have size and isn’t especially fast. He’s a 2 million a year player. Point is, Avery’s 2 million would be OK with me, if that 2 million wasn’t going to come at the expense of some our better young players, like Zherdev, Staal, and Dubinsky. With the contracts we’ve been saddled with (Redden, Drury, Gomez, and to a lesser extent, Lundqvist, Naslund, and Rozsival), we could really use that 2 million to help us resign some of our important core guys.

    If during the offseason, Slats saved 3 million on Redden and signed Mark Streit to a 4.5 million deal, I would have no problem with Avery joining the team. But fact is, we need the money now and in the future more than we need Avery now and in the future.

    Honestly, does anyone REALLY think Avery is going to turn this team around? Suppose they right things a little bit and make the playoffs, does anyone think this team is going anywhere? All it will do is hurt our cap for the future, our draft prospects (if things turn around), give Dolan an excuse to raise ticket prices, and probably give Renney a stay of execution. I hope all of that is worth a first or second round exit.

    Doodie,
    With the way this team is heading by losing game after game and besides he is still Dallas property, however if and when he comes back you never know maybe this can be a good thing, don’t jump the gun just yet.

  229. The reason Pru isn’t dressed is…. Renney is an a-hole!!!!
    Nice win for the Rangers. I am still amazed that most of the team played well and with some grit. Dawes still invisable last night except for shootout goal.Korpi,Cali and dubi were flying last night . Lets see if it will last or if this was just an anomally. In a series this team would get crushed by all teams in playoffs. Why do you say, well they are to small and to soft over all and the pp is a joke. I don’t think renney was going to be fired even if they lost last night,so I feel we are stuck with him and his loser coaches for at least the rest of the season. Now that sucks as much as the PP.lmao

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