Rangers vs. Stars, 8:30 p.m.

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You can read all about the Stars from their team web site here (if you like that rah-rah home-team stuff). And for those who don’t like it when I post something not about the Rangers, please skip this.

Back to the Rangers. You know where they stand.

To repeat, for those just joining us, looks like Henrik Lundqvist and Paul Mara will sit this one out with the flu, so Steve Valiquette is obviously in goal and Corey Potter on D.

Probable forward lines:
Naslund-Gomez-Voros
Dubinsky-Drury-Zherdev
Dawes-Korpikoski-Callahan
Sjostrom-Betts-Orr

And the healthy scratch — surprise,surprise! — Prucha. Unless something has changed this afternoon.

Enjoy the game.

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  1. Carp thanks for the update, keep up the great work. Had a quick suggestion, Sam did a live regular chat during 1 road game this year, and it was pretty solid so I think that would be pretty cool if you could give that a shot later in the year when you are not with the team.

  2. It wasn’t a video chat, and it wasn’t in the comments section either. It was a chatroom that you can post on your site. Zipay uses it when he does his q and a chats with his readers. I think its called cover it live.

    http://www.coveritlive.com/

  3. i bet john giononne crapped his pants when he read the Avery news. we better get him back. Sather ur terrible. WIth the money u gave redden, we could of had Jagr and avery

  4. I won’t be greedy, I just want one of the two (Sather and Renney) to be fired. Hoping its Renney very soon though.

    BTW, I agree with Mark and would also like to see a live game chat. It would be cool.

  5. Anyone know what channel the game is on (Brooklyn, Time Warner)? I hope I don’t have to watch it in non-HD (especially a bad/fuzzy non-HD).

  6. Voros is living the Marcel Hossa story. going from being sat out to the lower lines to the top line, all without doing anything to deserve it.

    and since Prucha is benched again,

    I guess PP now stands for Peter Principle

  7. Is this the way the Sather PR machine works? Feed a story to the press, let it fly, see how the fans and press react, and then maybe make a decision? This is the same story as the Sundin “signing”. But when they drop a player, like Jagr or Shanahan, they just make sure they never mention the player’s name again, and keep the player hanging until it’s too late. A very sleazy management style.

  8. great news, Voros on the 1st line and Prucha sitting.

    How can renny answer questions on this with a straight face???

    Why doesn’t any reporter grill him?

    then again we have the great sjustrom and orr playing tonight also. maybe Orr because Dallas is tough but heck why get any scoring from the 4th line, we already have plenty of scoring!!!!

  9. NYR needs a legit finisher. Avery is not that guy at all. He has 15 goals only twice in his NHL career. Sure he’d be the sandpaper guy, but guess what…that’s not gonna get them anywhere.

  10. from prior thread

    bklynblue 4:56 if avery backfires we can just waive him? yes and if no one claims him we infect our ahl’ers with his attitude of me 1st. or then buy him out for the 1/2 we owe him. i have serious reservations for 3 + yrs of sean. unless all we care is the freakish entertainment of calling marty fatso etc. i have higher goals. even if it means a step back so we can do 2 steps forward

  11. some reporter should ask Renney; “Tom, did you decide to sit Prucha because he works hard, or because he produces, or because he is a fan favorite?”

  12. eric how does jagr at say $ 8 mm plus avery at $ 4 mm equate to redden at $ 6.5 mm – cap wise

  13. I like Renney putting Voros on the 1st line tonight… only because it means my turn on the 1st line comes Monday. I’m pumped!

  14. Mark and NYR Examiner, I will definitely look into that chat thing. If I can figure it out (I may have to call Sam and take him out to Pat’s Hubba Hubba for a couple of chili dogs) I promise I’ll do it for one of the road games down the stretch.

    But remind me in a week or so.

  15. seriously, Prucha should demand a trade. why sit and let your career wither away because one guy does not believe in you.

    I guess, like Zidlicky, he is just too small for renney and sather’s liking. although we know who is really acting small in this situation.

  16. “Mark February 6th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    I hate when the Rangers are on MSG2, and there is no HD, just awful.”

    try having fios…
    dolan sucks

  17. I see the Debbies are already ahead 2-0 over the Thrashers

    but I guess they’re not “dominating” them like the Rangers under Tom Renney did.

  18. CARP!!!!!
    PLEASE ask Renney if he has somehting personal against Prucha, with him being more hard working and more productive than Voros and Dawes?

    See what he says? Im sure it will be total Bull Sheet Pontification!

  19. Chris- Yea that is true, I feel the pain. I have directv, and I never thought Dolan would give MSG HD to directv, espcially because he dreams of getting the nfl package on cablevision.

  20. That very good club in Atlanta is playing another good game, they have a sneaky good offense, excellent goatending and their defense really pressures the opposition at the blueline

  21. Mark,the only reason im sane having fios is because the internet is unbelievable especially when im downloading stuff like programs and music legally of course(wink wink)

  22. You could just tel Gianone was disgusted with the talk of Avery possibly coming back. What did Avery say to him, something about his wife?

  23. “I hate when the Rangers are on MSG2, and there is no HD, just awful.”
    I truly hate it too, Devs are on MSG+HD, Knicks on MSGHD and I have to watch freakin’ Rangers on some stupid, poor quality channel like TV Guide? COME ON!!! This channel is UNWATCHEABLE on Time Warner Cable!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. anyone wanting to watch online go to atdhe.net its the best spot for games. justintv sucks its horrible quality

  25. The talk of Voros on this pregame show is horrifying. Hopefully this is the MSG hype machine to try and get a trade partner for him.

  26. that bartender in the budweiser commercial might be the best thing we see all night.

    why cant the bars I go to have bartenders like her

  27. right, Mako. I was just wondering if they had a cover story, or are they coming right out and saying that?

  28. Dubi or not Dubi on

    Shamefully, because of Voros playing on the top line and Prucha being a healthy scratch, I am taking myself out of the lineup for tonight. I refuse to watch this game. This is the second time this year I have consciously skipped a game. This is the second time in my entire life that I have consciously skipped a game. I have NEVER been more fed up with my favorite team. I simply cannot watch Voros get meaningful playing time while Prucha sits out; I would actually be rooting against the first line and that is just completely horrible. Ugh. I’m not sure to be more ashamed at myself or my team. Sorry for the rant.

  29. Joe,

    I would love it if they did. But I think they will probably keep it on the DL as not to “distract the team”

    From what I was listening to the pre game. 22 teams have a shot at Avery before the Rangers do. But, Avery did say he was back in NY…

  30. Renney with Giannone talking about having to play with commitment and urgency or there will be consequences — yes, your name will be Petr Prucha and you’ll sit in the press box. What a loser and a phony this used car salesman truly is.

  31. For all the guys who have chubbers for Petr Prucha, how do you expect Petr to score any goals without me? Seriously…..explain it.

  32. does anyone live in NYC and have time warner? I can’t find the game anywhere!! it’s not on MSG (knicks) or MSG+ (devils), so it should be on MSG 2 which is channel 51, but it’s not- WTF? any help???

  33. Gianone bought up teams like the Flyers and Pens for Avery, and they actually have less salary cap left then the Rangers do.

  34. Ok…. Now I am F’ing fuming!!! I live in Manhattan. Near the Garden. And the game, according to the Rangers Official website should be on channel 51. Instead I have Mother F’ng JUSTIN GUARINI discussing American A$$HOLE!!! Anyone know where we can find the damn game???

  35. wow nobody is there, nobody talks about it but damn.. forget phoenix and the islanders but the stars look like they are in trouble

  36. I’m having the same problem, just spoke with TW and they said they’re having problems with Channel 51 right now and that the Ranger game should be on Channel 51. They had no more info than that.

  37. Got my Hennessy right next to me…and here we go… lets see how the Rangers play… there’s a lot of pressure on the team and specifically the COAH :)

  38. What’s with the horrendous feed on this broadcast? It’s the 1980s all over again – i think i have to adjust my rabbit ears

  39. Hey… At least the three of us could be the only people in the ENTIRE WORLD watching the Devils game. And in HD no less. Total crap! MSG should be ashamed!

  40. Z run over like a armadillo on a Texas highway in the summer…

    And Dubi does the circle the wagon with Steve Ott….

    Back in the day (or most current NHL teams), the teams who’s best player gets plastered, you make them pay

  41. AF

    I have time warner, live in Lower Manhattan. The game is on my ch 51. Call them and raise hell!!!!

  42. CALL TIME WARNER 212 358 0900 and BITCH AND MOAN… in the end i got 3 premium movie channels for free for a month and every ranger fan should do the same. this is ridiculous. they say they are working on it and it should be up in 10-15 minutes.

  43. Gomez would be castrated by Lou/Burns?Robinson/Ftorek for that move. Renney? The Rangers? HAHAHAHAHAH

  44. Sneaky goal by Zherdev, terrible play by Gomez, Ott’s hit seemed clean, unless his stick got in there. What did Sam & Joe say? I’m watching the Dallas feed.

  45. Chris

    Thats horrible. I was specifically gonna get FIOS because of the HD. Guess thats not gonna happen.

    Mako

    Called TW and the dude in Costa Rica told me that their is no MSG2 and that 51 is TV guide… Which no one actually watches be cause we have the guide.

    I appreciate both of your advise. LETS GO RANGERS!!!

  46. if you wanna watch the game and your internet is pretty fast go to atdhe.net otherwise time warner claims they’re working on it and it should be up in 10-15 minutes….my ass it will be, but that’s what they’re saying…

  47. AF

    They are wrong. Im watching the game as we speak and its on 51. I live in the west village in lower manhattan. I always call 212-674-9100. Try that number.

  48. I really love this team, but they are so hard to stomach sometimes… or, all of the time lately.

    It’s sad when 2-1 seems like an insurmountable lead. I hope they prove me wrong. Go Rangers!

  49. im done im not even gonna finish this game. got better stuff to do than watch these figure skaters dressed in rangers uniforms

  50. Zerdev-2.5mill 1 Goal for
    Gomez 7.5mill 1 Goal against
    Redden 6.5mill 1 Goal against

    AF76
    I have a feeling that FIOS is going to get it, they are going to argue with the new digital conversion laws that they have no reason to provide only an analog feed of MSG and that they should have to give the Digital and HD feed…

    Also Dolan will want that $ that FIOS will have to pay to have that channel in HD

  51. extremely anonymous on

    I don’t normally say this but if Renney doesn’t bench Redden and Gomez he really needs to go!!

  52. Watching game in CT on cablevision on some public access channel..HORRIBLE PICTURE.

    WTF…COME ON!

  53. Our million dollar players showing why they shouldn’t get millions. I’m talking about redden and Gomez if you haven’t figured it out.

  54. this is rly unbelievable. AF i’m with you….clearly some parts of manhattan have it and others don’t. but it should be on channel 51, just time warner f-ed up big time. just pray they fix it or call them up and give em hell.

  55. “[Redden] just gets roasted by the speed of Modano wide” after backing off to the top of the circle, so says the stars color announcer.

  56. This is crazy. Does anyone think that the Rangers are playing like this so Sather can fire Renney? Doesnt really look like they are trying, making stupid mistakes (see Gomez’s goal against) I mean simple basic rules of hockey that you just dont do….

  57. This game should be available on MSG for the third period, after the Knicks are finished being roasted, but we may not want to watch that long.

  58. So that Renney grueling practice is really paying off. Leave to Andrew Gross from the Record with this comment tonight

    UPDATE 9:20 First period: Any time the Rangers want to match the Stars’ early physical play would be good.

  59. inhankwetrust

    On the phone with a TW tech right now. We rebooted the box. Resent the signal. Still nada. Now she just gave me the same we’re working on it BS. F’ng TW!!! I don’t know whts more frustrating… the game itself… or that I can’t watch it???

  60. updated:
    Zerdev: 2.5million 1 goal for
    Redden 6.5million 1 goal against
    Gomez 7.5million 2 goals against

  61. dude im watchin the stars feed and they are raggin on the rangers bigtime. its great to not hear sam n joe sugarcoat everything. anyway, go gomez with the turnover. seriously when is he gonna be benched? when is renny gonna get fired? at this point avery will not help this team in the least. they need their top guys to play much better. i am seriously having doubts they will even make the playoffs now. please sather do something with this team

  62. 1st period: Blowmez’ play results in two goals…for the Stars. THis guy is a piece of shit. Keep the wisecracks coming you asshole!

    PREDICTION: These softies won’t make the playoffs!

    I can’t watch this shit anymore

  63. Gomez loses the puck, turnover lead to goal #3 so Gomez responsible for 2 goals against. Can we trade this guy?

  64. This is the easiest hockey team to play against in the history of time.

    BandAids? Liniment? You don’t even need to take a shower after playing the Rangers.

  65. Wow, awesome period by Gomez. Such a hog, first goal was because he jumped in front of a D to D pass behind the net.

  66. BOTTOM LINE. LET’S CUT THE SH-T. WILL RENNY SIT GOMEZ NEXT GAME LIKE HE DID DAWES?

    2 TERRIBLE PLAYS BY SCOTTY BOY.. THE FIRST GOAL MY 11 YR OLD KNOWS BETTER……

    zHERDEV WITH A AMATEUR HOUR PENALTY BECAUSE Ott had a clean hit on him..

    Reddens penalty was classic for a total total BUST.
    No one is close to the bust he is, no one…enjoy 5 more years of his crap.

    yeah Voros looks great lucky he plays over Prucha..

    Renny and sather have no clue, I know more watching on TV….

  67. ya thats the same crap they pulled on me. what the hell am i paying $140 a month if i can’t watch a team that plays 3 miles away from me on my TV. does anyone rly give a shit about the devils winning 5-1 in atlanta? take that off and put the rangers on!! jesus!

  68. Why doesn’t MSG show that Voros hasn’t score since what like November, why does this guy play? What does he bring to this team?

  69. spiderpig u watchin the stars feed to? isnt it amazing how they cal.l stuff how it is and not oh how unfortunate for redden or oh man dallas got a big break on the 3rd goal. its more like, dallas is actually trying to win!!!! rangers dont give a crap!!

  70. sorry af76 but honestly you aren’t missing a damn thing

    About midway through the period I was getting nostalgic thinking about last year’s team. Boy, that team looks like the Red Army compared to these guys

  71. I just wanted to stop in and say the “chemistry” between Gomez, Naslund and Voros is irrifutable…haha! Buncha crap!

  72. this is brutal tonight… Valley has had a really good first perod and gave up 3… at least the Voros first line experiment is working out well

  73. Here a bit of Avery news: I have a friend that was at an affair with Avery recently and Aves told him he will be back in NY in 3 weeks.Take it for what its worth but the source is reliable

  74. yea so i heard/watched a lil bit on the internet- but lets be honest im not doing anything else at the moment. i do have a beautiful black screen on channel 51 w/ the audio of the game though so im pretty much golden

  75. If the Devils win a cup and nobody watches them do it, does it actually count? And how do they have a better deal then the Rangers, TV wise with MSG? When MSG owns the damn Rangers and the Devils are literally our mortal enemy? Its like a sick joke! Maybe Renny has something to do with it so we would not see this debacle ;- 0

  76. I dont know why everyone here is sooo upset….This is setting up to be a perfect scenario for us fans.

    Sather in the building, watching his most talented forward get his nose broken with no repurcussions…..

    His $8MM forward (2008-09 salary) being the cause of 2 Goals against…..

    his $6.5 crackhead defensemen playing like he would rather be snorting coke off a Steely Dan album cover….

    and his smart chicken sh!t coach chewing the fuggin gum like a real schmuck with his hands in his pocket.

    Everyone sit back and enjoy! The night is young !

  77. He should switch Voros & Callahan
    1St line has nothing going thus far – Nothin’ (except for lethal play by Zherdev – single handed effort)

  78. UPDATE: forget the black screen and the ranger audio- now its back to god damn TV Guide!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  79. Staal Wart—- Is that sarcasim This team needs someone like Avery thats got BALLS unlike Clueless and Blowmez and lets not forget Dredden

  80. This team sucks. Renney’s mean practice has done SHIT. Redden takes a retard penalty, and doesn’t miss a shift, Gomer basically puts the puck in his mother fuggin net, then gives the puck away on an odd man rush, which leads to a goal, and he wont miss a shift.

    There’s your brilliant coaching.

    Not to mention our BEST PLAYER gets trashed, and does anyone do anything aboot it ?? NO, this team is full of pussy’s, where was the Captain ? He fled to the bench where it’s safe, while Dubi went over to Ott. What a girl.

    I hate everyone on this team, trade everyone except Dubi, Nicky Z, Staal, Hank, and Vally.

    FIRE RENNEY !!! Better yet i hope he gets cracked in the face with a stick once again, then maybe he’ll realize that he needs to bench these idiots that cant play hockey.

    Im sure Avery would be the first person to go up to Ott if he was here, unlike this team. It’s embarrassing, it’s an open invitation to destroy every player on this team without anything happening to the person. Im so sick of this shit.

    Id actually prefer it if they lost every game. If we have to put up with this bullshit, we should get something in return, like a player to build the future around, like one of those two players in the draft. If anyone thinks this team can get passed the first round, you’re hilarious, go turn on the Devils game, look what a real team is doing to one of the worst teams in the league, they’re beating them 5-1.

    And old man Shanny got into a fight. He might have old balls, but he has balls, something no Ranger has. Sad.

  81. Well… Back to TV guide. Maybe its for the better?

    inhankwetrust… Do u also live in the UWS. I wonder if its Just local. MAKO live in the w vill and has had the unfortunate luck of actually being able to watch this debacle.

  82. C’mon kids…isn’t there something to be positive about? Anything at all? Anyone? I say yes there is!! i just didn’t figure out what it is yet.

  83. The rangers are an embarrassment. I’m sad to be a fan of this team.

    Honor number 9 with giving up 9 goals boys. We know you’re all capable of sliding on the perpetual banana peel.

  84. kurt- great, i mean avery is gonna be our saviour right? i thought before tonights game he might be able to help the rangers but at this point i see that no team can play this crappy night after night and not show any will or desire to improve without a serious problem between the coach n the players and the system. all 3 are malfunctioning at the same time and not avery nor alex ovechkin can fix this team unless this coach can get these guys to perform. this is a team game and when atlanta beats you 2-1 at home after graves night there is def. something wrong.

  85. haha AF u got it…are you also going back and forth between a black screen and TV guide?

  86. “I hate everyone on this team, trade everyone except Dubi, Nicky Z, Staal, Hank, and Vally.”

    same- add Mara and Callahan to my list of liked players

    and boy do sather and coach clueless look retarded for not getting shanny

  87. I guess this can’t be a rehearsal for a Redden swap to Dallas; I can see Hull and Jackson and Tippit now saying “yea..we should get him…for half a decade”

  88. I think if they get embarassed by the Devils on Monday, which lets be honest is a good possiblity then the fire Renney Chants will come out Wednesday night when Ovechkin scores like 4 haha.

  89. Lobster- you cant miss nylander anymore than I do. Why we let him go is beyond me..

    I was going to try and get tickets for mondays game, but this team is gonna get lit up by the devils so its probably worthless

  90. great point orr, and also orr hey remember that these guys all love each other and theyre such a tight knit group in the lockerroom!!!! that really helps when …facet of the game

  91. And about avery…y cant we go after someone more valuable than Avery? There be some players available that could make the difference minus all the baggage that comes with avery

  92. Mike at this point I would look to big legged dog to get a pair of balls on this team Great move dunno necessary move definetly

  93. Look to Boston — look what Julien is doing with Kobasew and Krejci and Wheeler.

    Look to NJ — look what Sutter is doing with Mottau and Clarkson and Oduya.

    Look to the NYR —– and see what Renney has been able to do with a roster he wanted, and ZERO injuries.

    THE MAN CANNOT COACH. PERIOD.

  94. Ford
    Shanny, Jagr, Straka, Drury, Gomez, Avery, Dubi, Dawes, Prucha, Cally,….and they finish 25th in NHL in scoring??

    If he couldnt make it happen lat year forget this year!!

  95. sam are you kidding me nice play by redden? good thing the stars didnt come away with it or it woulda been a 2 on 1

  96. zherdev was supposed to be the third man high on his goal renney will warn him never to do that again.

  97. yeah sam daws with pp time, same with callahan… notice when- 10sec left they get it, instead we have voros lumbering around with tond of PP time

  98. haha nicole

    just got off the phone w/ them again, they said its working in every borough except manhattan. when i informed them that it seems to be working in the village also the guy sounded like he pissed his pants he was so excited. apparently they’re still working on it….and ppl r rly giving them hell cuz he said he had a bunch of calls about it.

  99. i also decided tonight that blair betts sounds more like a pornstar than a hockey player.

  100. wow dallas whoopin on us bad. i hope we just get to ot and escape with a point the way this is goin. dallas is having a 5-5 powerplay while we couldnt get 1 setup on our real pp

  101. Pearn ” Tom- Z has 2 goals tonight and is playing like a madman” Clueless ” Yea K bench the kid and lets DOMINATE with the 4th line” Welcome to CLUELESS hockey

  102. HockeymanRangers on

    I swear these guys can not play good D and score at the same time. When they play tight D and do not give teams many chances the Rangers can’t seem to score. But when their D is not there they give up some goals but the Rangers also are able to score some goals.

  103. Here we go…Rangers are slipping so Joe ans Sam are laying it on about how great each Dallas Star is…one guy at a time…Ott…Ribeiro ( he’s shifty)…Modano…Erickson…
    these are the same clowns who said Dallas doesnt play physical about two miutes before Zherdev got his head squeezed

  104. Pearn ” Tom the 4th line is DOMINATING”

    Clueless ” Thats my son centering that line” Do we have to play anyother lines Perry

  105. gomez couldve redeemed himself with that one timer gimme but no of course not. him and drury have to be the 2 worst capn and asst in the history of the rangers

  106. i wouldnt mind avery coming back but lets not kid ourselves, this team is going nowhere until renney is out of here and develop some offensive talent.

    also thought it was funny that apparently pearn gave everyone the flu, got admire his dedication to making us as bad as possible

  107. kaspar did u see drury lose every damn important faceoff we had. did u see drury miss the net on a good one timer pass? now its 4-2 when it should be 3-3. i gotta go i cant watch this crap anymore. night guys. hope u have a good night

  108. RetireBradPark's#2 on

    Gomez – Thanks for such inspired play.

    Drury – Thanks for your ability to win critical faceoffs.

    Redden – Congratulations on another $83,000 in your bank account.

    Renney – Good luck “tidying up” this one. Do they look “dominant” again, Tom?

    Sather – As Jim Schoenfeld once said, “Have another donut, fat ass.”

  109. After listening to Steve Ott during periods, he is EXACTLY the player we would want on the NY Rangers

  110. u know whats sad is that in each of the last 4 losses (this one included) hank n vally have been great, i mean great saves by both. i gotta believe that our offense is struggling because our d is so weak and passive that renny reigns in the forwards. now i see why. honestly can u blame him when our d sucks so bad? the 5-3 for almost a full 2 shouldve tied it. thats where our offense needs to score!!! but whats worse is that the stars just played last night and are skating circles around the d and crashin vally constantly. drury needs the c taken off and put on mara. u can see were missin him bad tonight. yea guys potter and reitz are really better than kalinin. idk anymore it looks like this team is just completely screwed

  111. I think watching this in HD would be like 8 times more painful. At least this way I can pretend this is a replay from 2000 or something.

  112. staal wart i love it and pray he gets hurt real bad. i cant stand lookin at reddens face anymore unless hes in excruciating pain from a hard hit

  113. Ott had the between period interview with pec*erhead…uhh, make that Giannone… maybe now Orr will take a run at him… that guy is playing a hell of a game.

  114. staal wart, gimme a break, you are a huge enabler of this Renney crapola, spare me your brilliant insights

  115. 0necupin67years on

    I noticed the girls too.
    Renney chews gum better than he coaches , real cow like.
    These are the brightest comments I can make watching this crap.

  116. CHRIS

    Oh yeah, Mara, and Cally too, and Pruchs.

    STEVE OTT

    I got “The Land Before Time” on my DVR. Im thinking of watching that instead of this garbage.

    KURT

    Renney has Orr’s balls, and he wont give them back.

    Nicky Z, and Vally are the only reason to keep watching, everyone else, fugg them. I still cant believe nobody avenged Z, that’s sad. Clearly this team doesn’t need to risk getting hurt for one of their teammates. Tight group, yeah they’re as tight as Paris Hilton’s vagina.

  117. renney telling betts to stickcheck ott and ott will settle down and stop hitting. renney’s glasses look even more fogged up than usuual.

  118. staal i know i just cant stand when guys say bring up potter!!!! like hes gonna save our defense corp. hes ok but we need big mean ass b*astardos clearin the crease. redden n rozy should be drivin the mr softee ice cream truck by next week

  119. The collapse has begun. The Rangers must have taken lessons from the Mets and the Jets. The idiot who should be fired is Sather hands down.

  120. STAAL

    I was happy too. I was hoping for an injury to be honest.

    After 40 games more or less, of this shit head doing nothing on the PP, you’d think retard Renney would put someone else there, but nooo, he sticks with the coke head.

    Redden needs to go back to his little farm in Canada, go back to riding horses, and talking to sheep you douche.

  121. orr ur a riot!!! lol at least we got each other right? lol us ranger fans need to be consoled. we get crapped on every ranger game

  122. 0necupin67years on

    Maybe we can’t blame renney ,maybe this team is just an Godawful combination of losers.
    yeah we can blame renney , he’s a loser too.

  123. I would love to see someone go into the MSG booth between periods and do like in Jackass with a buzzer and run it over Sam the Shams combover

  124. Why can’t the Prucha lovers explain to me why he’s going to score without me? Where are the fans with the Prucha man crushes?

  125. wd40,
    who the hell are you? What because I have supported Renney in the past I can’t make an observation…FU!
    I blame Sather for this mess…more than I blame Renney…move on or skip my posts moron.

  126. MIKE

    Exactly. Id take these losses a lot easier if Slats was sending hot celeb chicks to our houses to have some fun after a loss. If that’s the case, then i might have to hope they lose a couple of games.

    Just out of curiosity, i wonder how Tavares would look in a Rangers jersey.

  127. betts and shoe n orr should not see any icetime this period but they’ll get about 3-5 minutes

  128. guys just imagine if zherdev didnt get real lucky with those 2 wierd goals wed have 1 goal in 3 games

  129. They can’t even get out of their zone, that practice is really making this team play harder. Just awful, like this feed tonight.

  130. Funny that the Ranger self haters expect our team to shell the back-up on Boston who makes $3.2mn but are shocked when the Ranger’s back-up who makes $725k gets a solid ass kicking.

  131. staal wart

    “Who am I?” Someone who knows a moron when I see one. You are looking at a team that looks like it is coached by you, and STILL you don’t get it.

    You ARE a MORON. You have been WRONG about everything about this team for eons, so just crawl back into your hole.

  132. We only hold a playoff spot by 5 points and some of the teams below us have games at hand. Man, this team is a pathetic bunch of losers. They just don’t know what to do out there.

  133. Renney standing there with a scowl and barking, ha. You can’t be a players coach and then all of a sudden slip a switch.

  134. just imagine guys if drury could do anything he used to do for every other team hes played for. imagine if gomez and redden could even be worth a million. imagine if renny had a sack and a gameplan? face it- no jagr- no playoffs. i doubt we make it this year or the next 5 if redden gomez drury and voros are on this team

  135. JJP

    Wonderful. You refuse to leave us an opinion on Renney, because it goes against your months-long thesis, but feel free to bloviate on contract numbers?? About BACKUP goalies????

    LOL! Unbelievably weak.

  136. I say the Rangers get the 8 seed this year so Dolan can be like well we made the playoffs lets raise the ticket prices.

  137. Wow what a very sloppy and poorly played game by the Rangers. Tom Renney so called worked this team very hard in practice on Wed, well it obviously had no effect.

    The Rangers can’t expect to win games taking stupid penalties (i.e. Redden called for Delay of Game) and having way too many turnovers. I think I counted four turnovers resulting in goals so far tonight.

  138. JJP, are you serious?? After your nonsense about not being able to criticize Renney until after the season, you weigh in on the second string goaltenders? Laughable.

  139. how easy dallas puts it in the net. how simple and yea this is like that toronto game guys. sorry but vally has sucked but so has everyone else except z and doobs

  140. Just shut it off. Just simply pathetic, with no sign at all that it is even close to getting better.

  141. This is truly the low point, and I really didn’t think it could get any lower after Thursday night.

  142. wd40
    if you were here right now…I’d Colton Orr your ass!!!

    please explain this to me cause it makes no sense whatsoever…”You are looking at a team that looks like it is coached by you, and STILL you don’t get it”
    I’m actually looking at a team build by Glen freaking Sather and coached by Tom Renney.
    I have no say…
    The bottom line here is, I realize I’m posting for fun. You on the other hand seem to think that what you say matters or will influence the team in some way…guess what, no one who has any say reads what you write.
    Oh and I’m happy you think I’m a moron. I wouldn’t want anyone to think we are friends.

    and I have been wrong about everything for eons? have I made any predictions? any rumors I’ve started? Line combo’s I’ve insisted would work? what…? Please by all means explain…

  143. if they have to lose, it’s better if they do get blown out like this, because it really shines the spotlight on Renney and sather even more.

  144. hank looks fine why did he sit out? he didnt wanna get blasted on i guess. he didnt want vally to feel left out

  145. steve trac (sec 303) on

    YOU SUCK RANGERS AND MAKE ME SICK THE WAY YOU PLAY MOST OF THE TIME. absofuckinglutely horrible…

  146. when the coach bag skates you, and you come out and play like this, that says the players have tuned out Renney, and a change is necessary.

  147. mike in IA, no not in Iowa, but trying to make a move there.. wishful thinking about the keg tonight.

    ..can we trade the Rangers for the Stars?

  148. I’m been saying “fire Renney” since 06/07. So much for a tough practice. This team is a joke. The stars are a crap team and just wow.

  149. seriously lasdies and gents, I think in my whole life being a rangers fan, (im 30) i’ve just never been so sad aboout our team

    8-2?

    Im turnging it off, doesnt matter
    gotta go have a beer and have some green

    and yeah monday is the Devils!!!! yeah!!!!!

  150. What next for Renney? I think its time to pack, Tom and tell Mike & Perry don’t let the door hit your A– on the way out.

  151. if there is no shakeup after this disaster Sather and company is giving as big fuck you to the fans. lets hear the bs by renney. what a disgusting perfomance.

  152. Sorry Colton…. a little too late….Zherdev gets rocked, you act immediately to set the tone early in the game. Now u look like an idiot

  153. Staal Wart, look at the rosters of Florida and Buffalo who will soon overtake the NYR!!! You wouldn’t know what a well-coached team looks like if it blasted you in your @ss, so crawl away, loser.

  154. man dallas has some hot ass women at the game. thats the positive for the night. and yep, thats why vallys a backup, and yep, we are not makin the playoffs. i will be shoclked if we do and if renny is still the coach after this week

  155. Renney will say that they lost focus, took too many penalties and didn’t play his system. No resposibility. How many times in the last three years have we seen games where the Rangers TOTALLY collapse and give up a slew of goals. That’s the sign of a lousy coach.
    We really needed the size of Voros and Orr tonight cause they contributed so much.
    We kill off a penalty at the beginning of the third and the first line out for a full shift is Betts Sjo and Orr. That tells you all you need to know about this moron. Down to goals but let’s keep that fourth line out there. You know, our “shutdown line” that never scores and gives up goals.
    Coaching doesn’t get any worse. He has no control over this team and no idea how to fix any of it.

  156. odds we get to hear from renney after this game? and staal who cares if no one reads what is said here, i dont think anyone thinks sather is gonna read the blog and suddenly get it frankly id be surprised if dolan or sather even know how to go online. but that doesnt mean people can’t rightfully criticize every part of this team from the owner to the gm and the coach and most of the players.

    the team is self-destructing before our eyes. me thinks the coach has lost control over this team

  157. guys just remember that 5 on 3 in the 2nd. thats why we will never go anywhere this year. couldve been tied and who knows maybe we win and changes the whole complexion of this team and its confidence.

  158. Im going back and finding the post

    I posted in december or early january

    “If Renny is still the coach after the All-Star break we will not make the playoffs”

  159. This reminds me a lot of the romping Ottawa gave us for Jagr’s first game. One difference, this team doesn’t have anywhere near the talent that team (as bad as it was) did.

  160. Staal Wart

    Dallas is 8-2 better than the NYR based on roster? Really?

    What are you drinking? Because whatever it is, sign me up.

  161. ARE YOU KIDDING ME

    YOU NEED TO START HITTING I DONT CARE SHOW SOME PRIDE JESUS FIRE RENNY THIS HAS TO END GOD ALMIGHTY

  162. Sather- want to win some of us over

    Go down to that locker room and relieve Renny of his duties before he gets on that plane

  163. I think I am gonna go steal my wifes Twilight books and masturbate to some scented candles and Peaches & Herb playing on the Ipod….

    Not me, that will Renney next week when he is out of a job

  164. The Rangers are paying Renney back for making them do “Herbies” for an hour. The veterans hated that. They want him to give them a winning system instead he makes them skate. Well that didn’t work Tom. Maybe now you can come up with a system that makes use of the players you have instead of making them play your boring mess

  165. ATTN: GLEN

    Win some fans tonight, relieve renny of his duties as soon as they get in that locker room in 5seconds

  166. Ladies and Gentlemen:

    Welcome to “The Firing Game.”

    A loss so unbearably embarrassing, so disgustring in the scope of absolute failure by the team in every facet of the game, and in response to a bag skate no less, that the coach does not even make it home without being fired. Sather should not even allow him on the plane.

    Seriously, no way Renney is still the coach when we wake up. No way.

    See Renney walking off the ice? Say goodbye. And regardless, this team isn’t even coming close to making the playoffs. Not a single top line player among them. None.

  167. Trade Drury & Gomez for St.Louis & Lecavalier, Trade Redden for Bouwmeester, simply put it in one line, something has got to be done and in a hurry.

  168. costanza February 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Those girls combined weigh more than Afa and Sika

    Awesome samoans reference costanza, I guess that after watching this team play, chubby chicks must start to look like hotties to some.

  169. Tom Tenney,
    Your western canadian hockey plays don’t work anymore on the eastern conference so pack it up, Tom

  170. You know…I go to this blog several times a day and read all this anti-Renney stuff and it annoyed me at times. But I am now finished. I was rooting for Dallas to pour it on.

    It’s time for Renney and his staff to go. A change is needed for this sleepwalking team that’s about to play the crazy hot Devils then the crazy hot Caps.

    FIRE RENNEY.

  171. ford,
    what the hell does that mean, you either misread a post or pass the bong man!

    And wd,
    A good coached team is Julien in Boston, and many times I’ve mentioned him, you obviously don’t read…well.

  172. I don’t know aboot all of you, but i was hoping the Stars were gonna score more goals after the 6th. Funny thing is, three times when i thought that, they scored like 2 seconds later.

    Vally was good early, but sucked in the 3rd, but what difference did it make ? If Hank was in the end result would be the same.

    If THIS game, and the fact that we’re now on a four game losing streak, doesn’t get Renney fired, honestly i don’t know what will.

    Slats needs to make the best decision he’s made in a long time, bring back Avery, and fire Renney.

  173. Bandwagon fan? I tell you what. I can take a lot from this team. But enough is enough. If they are not going to show one ounce of passion, than I just don’t care what happens to them in a game. I buy their Jersey, I watch EVERY game, I go to many games during their year, I buy their hat, and they give me this to watch? Well guess what, they deserved what they got tonight. Poke check, poke check, poke check, skate right in front of own net when a guy is right on you, poke check, poke check, don’t score on a full 5 on 3, poke check. Screw this team. Pathetic!

  174. 0necupin67years on

    I had to watch until the end.
    The only message Renney got tonight was that this team has Quit. Sather should make the change on the plane home and dump renney’s ass.

  175. the post gane should be entertaning! Can Avey be in the line up for Mondays game please.It will give me a reason to show up.

  176. What is the difference between the Miracle on the Hudson and the 2008-2009 New York Rangers season? The plane stayed afloat on the ice where as the Rangers season keeps on sinking

  177. Friends of Dr. D on

    That HAS to be the end of Tom Renney now, right? He yells at his team and punishes them, and they respond with one of their most lopsided losses in franchise history.

    It’s over. If there was any lingering doubt that this team and Renney were still on the same page, tonight erased all doubt. It has to be done. Get it done, Glen.

  178. i felt bad for vally up until the 5th goal on. sry but he stanks. if something, anything is not done about this im not watchin until it is. i dont care im a ranger fan for life but this has gotten embarrasing to be a fan. this guy at work who doesnt even know hockey whatsoever told me today” hey mike sounds like the team needs a new coach or some leadership”. how can these phonys still have a job? from sather on down to drury

  179. I havent said anything against renney all year – he has now lost this team.. is torts the ONLY suitable replacement out there?.. there needs to be significant players changes that “Slats” has made impossible.. so, we wil be with the same core with a different head.. awesome!

    puckhead, you stole my thunder on kalinin, he was obviously the difference!

  180. Scotty 2 Hotty on

    wow…just fucking wow

    does Henrik, Mara and Kalinin really mean that much…really?

    I’m never for firing coaches but something just has got to change. I’m not saying clean out the house but get rid of Renney…just get rid of his ass at this point. Four losses in a row and we can’t score for our lives. This team needs somebody who can take momentum away from the other team whether it be a huge hit, a huge goal, an amzing play, a fight…something. So what is I hear about Avery?

    At this point after this game they better give us Avery for nothing.

  181. 0necupin67years on

    They got forechecked and checked off the puck to death and never responded, what a bunch of trash, giveaways non stop

  182. they should call up as many kids as they can on monday night. these clowns dont deserve to be on the ice and the whole coaching staff should be gone except for alaire (tho odd that he hasnt corrected hank’s weakness on high shots)

  183. Where is bob?

    One of Tom’s toughest practices in years and that is the effort?……….not good at all.

  184. I can picture Carp right now on his couch petting his dog and thinking, ,,,,

    “No wonder Weinman hit the bricks….Now I gotta deal with these suicidal Ranger fan nuts on the blog….fuggggg”

  185. The only players that have been carrying this team all season is Lundqvist & Valiquette.
    Enough of Renney, Drury, Gomez, & Redden, trade them and get us a new coach

  186. I agree. Good for Joe. I hope he has diarrhea all over the whole team. They played like a big dripping pile of it.

  187. fire sather…maybe we can call messier, graves, and leetch and give them the team. messier to be the general manager, gaves to coach the offense and leetch to coach the defense.

  188. “wd40
    if you were here right now…I’d Colton Orr your ass!!!”

    STAAL

    You shouldn’t “Colton Orr” someone, cause these days that means you’re gonna look like an idiot and do nothing, thanks to good ol Renney, and his ball removing ways. Now if you “Andrew Peter” someone, or “Georges Lacrackhead” someone, then that can lead to some major damage.

    Tavares, come with us if you want to live !!

  189. Is it bad that for the first time in my life I had the desire to see Dallas pour it on the Rangers. I hope they hit rock bottom tonight because if it goes any lower, then I will not watch them again.

  190. Unfortunately Drury, Gomez, and Redden are all untradeable; unless its for another team’s problem/bad contract (ie. Avery, Penner).

  191. can we just make a donation to the KHl to give away drury, gomez, and redden and get jagr back. a 3 for 1 special. so then we can wait until the summer and buy hossa.

  192. RangerArthur
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
    fire sather…maybe we can call messier, graves, and leetch and give them the team. messier to be the general manager, gaves to coach the offense and leetch to coach the defense.

    You are right, this can’t get any better unless change comes and soon.

  193. Rick,

    With the laser like accuracy of hindsight, maybe “experience the game” would have been a better phrase than “enjoy the game”.

  194. Spraystop
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
    The Rangers are paying Renney back for making them do “Herbies” for an hour. The veterans hated that. They want him to give them a winning system instead he makes them skate. Well that didn’t work Tom. Maybe now you can come up with a system that makes use of the players you have instead of making them play your boring mess

    u got it man, but for a bunch of grown men to do that is pretty messed up. i can see kids do that but cmon at least try to win. i get if they cant stand renny anymore but at the same time if you play like that you shouldnt have a job either. i agree what nasty just said. i buy their crap i watch every game even this one till the end and this is what i get. screw em, i love the rangers but i hate this team

  195. renney’s lost them, he has to go.. the problem is the guy who fires him sux as well, at least he knows Dolan dosent watch road games…

    same team + new coach = same team

  196. I have to say after tonights embarrassment…something has to change. However, if canning Renney is the solution, I honestly don’t expect anything much to change. We still have the same players and Sather is still in charge.
    was it me or did Drury look like a deer in the headlights?

  197. Staal Wart, you have been wrong, you are wrong, you will be wrong, because you wouldn;t know what a well-coached team looked like if it corn-OLE-ed you. 10-2, right, that is all on Sather. Sure it is.

    Bottom line: YOU ARE DUMB. Own it.

  198. and drury is looking forward towards monday… yea this should be nice… for teh record i was and think still am supporter of renney.. but i might change mind after i hear what he says in 2 min…

  199. the problem is cablevision. someone buy the team. can everyone in ny just pitch in 100 bucks so the fans can buy the team away from cablevision and just vote on a team president every 2-4 years. why cant we put our GOOD ideas into our sports? whats 100 x about 16 million?

  200. After a 10-2 loss like this, what do you think it will take for Sather to fire Renney?

    I’m hoping to wake up tomorrow hearing the news that Renney has been given the ax, but what are the odds lol

  201. FIRE RENNEY, AND PEARN !!!

    I don’t blame anyone for giving up on this team. It’s BS, all the money we all spend for these jerkoffs, and for what, so we waste 3 hours of our day watching them get raped every which way.

    Lose every game of the season, please. I want Tavares, or Hedman.

    Torts will whip this team into shape, whether they make the playoffs or not, he’ll do things the way they need to be done, he’ll play the players that show the most heart, he’ll scratch the players who play like shit.

    Renney is a PUSSY, and the team is playing like he coaches.

    Orr looked like a fuggin idiot. The team couldn’t do anything right, and he couldn’t even sucker punch Ott, lol so pathetic. Instead he takes a penalty looking like a retard, who couldn’t even get the job done.

    This is a perfect team, they don’t do shit, they let themselves get raped, and show absolutely no pride.

    If anyone thinks Renney should be coaching after this game, keep taking those drugs you’re taking, cause when you sober up you might be suicidal when you realize what you’ve been saying.

  202. If there is one thing that I’m getting sick of besides the Renneyisms this season (i.e. it’s a function of….), it’s Chris Drury and his absolute robotic answers. He has no passion, no fire. He looked like he was trying so hard not to say “I’ve thrown this one in the garbage”.

    For once, it’s nice to see Gomez not smirking like he just kissed your sister behind your back.

  203. Let him down Gomez? The whole team quit on the goalie in that 3rd, why don’t you go crack a joke about Gianone or something.

  204. Lets see you lose on Adam Graves night, next you lose with disgrace to Dallas, you are next heading to Jersey what would you do if you are Sather?

    Joe mentiones where is the leadership from this group, where has it been all season?

  205. he probably drives up to the dump because he loves to watch trash get compacted. well atleast thats why he still keeps sather.

  206. wd40
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
    Staal Wart, you have been wrong, you are wrong, you will be wrong, because you wouldn;t know what a well-coached team looked like if it corn-OLE-ed you. 10-2, right, that is all on Sather. Sure it is.

    Bottom line: YOU ARE DUMB. Own it.

    are you saying that the Panthers are a better coached team than Boston? I’ve been talking up Claude Juliene since last year you putz.

  207. “Gomez is more of a captain than Drury”

    Aaaahahahaha, yeah right. Gimme a break, they’re are both useless greedy pieces of shit that care only aboot the money they’re stealing from this team. They BOTH suck, they’re BOTH far from leaders.

    I wish there was a way to get rid of Gomez, Drury, and Redden A-SAP!

  208. This freeken team really has no grit or heart. Get rid of Gomez, Naslund and Redden. I’ve had it with these over paid bastards. If I didn’t know any better it looks like the entire team went into the dumpster to get Renney fired. I never thought I’d say this but they’re not listening to Renney anymore. Maybe Schoenfeld could replace him & move Renney upstairs as he does have a good record with team over the last three years and really deserves a better fate. Gomez is a freeken bust and a real wiseass particularly when interviewed. He couldn’t wait to play on Broadway. He’s playing like it’s a freeken country club. He didn’t play this way on the Devils. This team needs a kick ass personality. Maybe a few players like Avery would make the difference. Everyone wants the Rangers to be more offensive and stop losing 2-1 1-0 games. Perhaps that’s the type of team we have; one that must play defense first. Tom Renney deserves better and we as fans deserve far more.

  209. Domi28
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
    Right back to square one? I need a coach that shows emotion. Tom shows no emotion.

    no, he does, its all in the way he chews his gum, when he’s mad he keeps one side quenched a bit tighter when he chews. oh yeah you can tell. it gives redden goosebumps.

  210. Pete
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
    what will be his excuse for not playing prucha on monday?

    Voros must have that secret tape of him.

  211. SECTION309BELIEVES on

    WOW SECTION 309 before the puck drops WED NIGHT, FIRE RENNEY FIRE RENNEY, sorry Tom I did like you for awhile and this is not all your fault but you lost the team-i mean wtf is ORR doing with 5 min to play, what is gomez doing 5 min into the game? We need TORTS ASAP, for those of you who like vali this verifies that he will never be more than a decent backup -he looks shaky on all shots and sam and joe usuually sugarcoat his game…….WOW weekend is ruined I FEEL LIKE PUKING ALL OVER REDDEN, F_ MEEEEEEEEE

  212. Staal Wart aka Moron

    You have stated this disaster is Sather’s fault.

    Florida and Buffalo have by far lousier rosters than the NYR. They are both coming on big time for a playoff drive.

    And yet you continue to post that this abortion has NOTHING to do with Renney.

    Which is why you are DUMB. And HOPELESS.

  213. Looking to buy the Rangers? Cablevision won’t just sell the team…Dolan has said in the past that he would sell MSG for the right amount…that’s the Rangers, the Knicks, the Liberty, MSG, Radio City and Beacon Theatre. Will only cost you a cool 1.5 to 2 billion dollars.

    We are stuck with that fat b*stard Dolan, that washed-up cigar chomping Sather, and Tom Renney, PhD.

    I feel for Valley, the team hung him out to dry. And Hank sat there on the bench and looked like he couldn’t wait to go clubbing tomorrow night back in NYC.

    I can’t believe that I was excited at the beginning of the season when Redden and Roszival were signed…how much has changed in 7 months. This team is a disgrace.

  214. ..that “tough” practice on the vets really seemed to backfire.. I NEVER EVER think this of pro athletes BUT did they mail it in today? Recall, Z doesnt speak a word of english – and he showed up… Ott showed them exactly what they needed .. good night all..remember, Nigel Dawes Booblehead nite next sat in Hartford!

  215. Best Player on ice for rangers: nicky z
    Worst: entire defense, gomez and drury
    Invisible: Dubinsky and Naslund

  216. SECTION309BELIEVES
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
    WOW SECTION 309 before the puck drops WED NIGHT, FIRE RENNEY FIRE RENNEY, sorry Tom I did like you for awhile and this is not all your fault but you lost the team-i mean wtf is ORR doing with 5 min to play, what is gomez doing 5 min into the game? We need TORTS ASAP, for those of you who like vali this verifies that he will never be more than a decent backup -he looks shaky on all shots and sam and joe usuually sugarcoat his game…….WOW weekend is ruined I FEEL LIKE PUKING ALL OVER REDDEN, F_ MEEEEEEEEE

    I am at SECTION 302 I will shout the same

  217. Christian how many people live in ny? about 20-16 million?, so whats 1,000 x 20 million? 2 bilion? that should do it.

  218. SECTION309BELIEVES on

    DOMI-GOOD POINT all these guys honor and respect is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, i mean seriously do you think redden and rosival lift weights-they are the biggest f====== puss—– in the league

  219. Nasty 1
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
    Captain Crunch is more of a captain than Drury this year.

    too late, you stole mine i already used that when i said jack sparrow is more of a captain than drury and gomez.

  220. Domi28
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
    Captain Nemo is more of a Captain
    ..everyone lkes to copy.

  221. Staal Wart aka Moron

    “You have stated this disaster is Sather’s fault.

    Florida and Buffalo have by far lousier rosters than the NYR. They are both coming on big time for a playoff drive.

    And yet you continue to post that this abortion has NOTHING to do with Renney.”

    How is this not accurate? About all Renney Kool-Aid drinkers?

  222. Renney says it’s back to square one and basic hockey and start building it over again. That’s the problem right there. You can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. The system is flawed. It doesn’t work. The power play had been bad for three years even when we had top goal scorers. The system relies on Hank to save everyone’s butt. As long as Renney thinks he can go back to square one and start over again with the same system, history will just repeat itself. He doesn’t recognize the need to change the system. That’s why he needs to go and Perry Pearn along with him.

  223. gomez and drury are dead to me. because they broke my heart. its ok though. if we trade them to avangard omsk for jagr and sign hossa in the summer, all is forgiven.

  224. How anyone can watch this game and still maintain that this team is coached at even ECHL level is beyond me.

  225. I have supported Renney for a long time, but tonight was too much. He has lost this team and he needs to go. The problem? He won’t be fired.

  226. Yea I don’t understand why Gomez wouldn’t admit this is rock bottom, does he think it will get worse. This is kind of scary.

  227. Is this what a “we’ve been playing playoff hockey for awhile” hockey team looks like? Really??? I agree with so many of you who say that this team (managed by Glen Sather and coached by Tom Renney) is unimaginative, passionless, and impossible to watch (unless you enjoy watching train wrecks). Burn it down and start all over!

  228. 0necupin67years on

    when they win ,they win ugly
    and when they lose, they lose ugly..
    it defines this team, they never look good, everything is difficult

  229. maybe we had a deal with dallas that if we let them humiliate us, then we could get avery for free along with a fruit basket

  230. JayKnight
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    I have supported Renney for a long time, but tonight was too much. He has lost this team and he needs to go. The problem? He won’t be fired.

    You are right, Sather likes Renney for his Western Canadian coaching style.

  231. Just think – if the Dolans had any clue, the management of this team could have been JD and Don Maloney with a guy like Tortorella as coach. But no, we have to have Glen Sather who has done absolutely nothing as a GM since Gretzky left Edmondton. And Sather has an outstanding record of hiring coaches. Top caliber.

  232. Sure RangerArthur,
    after this lose, Dallas says take Avery and we will pay the length of his contract.

  233. Jaromir Jagr and Brendan Shanahan will certainly get a good laugh after looking at this boxscore.

  234. as long as we all continue to go to games, watch msg, buy merch…nothing will ever change. look at the knicks debacle, this is a business to the dolans, they only care about profit, nothing else.

  235. This is the most embarrassing games of hockey i have ever watch. the rangers totally gave up in the third and did not show up for the final 20. they completely quit out there and that is irrefutable.

    with that being said i am one of the few ranger fans that is in renney’s corner. i don’t think he is the problem as much as the players that sather has gone out and bought over the summer. no forward is near a first line player. no d-man is a first pair player. and despite all that, despite having a team of mid-level players they are ten games over .500 and currently the fifth seed. sather had a summer of follies. after losing their best player (jagr) he tried to patch up his line-up by going after naslund (a fine player but way passed his prime), zherdev (highly skilled but more flash than substance), and way too many 4th/3rd line players that can’t skate or score. And on defense slats overpays big time for wade redden, who anyone who knows anything about hockey could have told that his career was in the midst of a crash and burn.

    for the line-up hes been given, renney has this team is over-achieving in my opinion. and yes they are struggling mightily right now but you’re never as bad as you look when things are going bad and never as bad as you look when things are going good.

  236. “Florida and Buffalo have by far lousier rosters than the NYR. They are both coming on big time for a playoff drive.”

    Anybody on the Renney knob-washing crew want to chime in?

  237. im not even gonna bother watchin on monday. i will wait to see what transpires after this. i just cant waste 3 hours of my life on shit like this anymore. and get aggravated over it. doesnt seem to bother drury or redden that much. or even hank. he looked like he was fine and couldve played not like it wouldve matered but still after the 6th goal or 7th they showed him sitting there calm n cool not a care in the world that his buddy is gettin roasted out there. i dont get it i mean they were really pretty good to start the season i mean yea they had problems but redden scored 2 goals in his first 3 games!!!. something happened somewhere and it really is amazing how this team has changed since the beginning of the season. when i watch the games now i just wanna see if they actually play a hard forecheckin game and say screw rennys system but now i know until hes gone this team will fail

  238. 0necupin67years on

    The devils could do us a Big favor by kicking the rangers ass Monday, I want this avalanche on renney,
    I’d rather miss the playoffs and get rid of sather and renney then to make the playoffs and get another year of this act.

  239. Staal Wart
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
    “If we loose to the Debbies on Monday 12-2 would that be rock bottom?”

    Not for you. Because you will STILL point to anyone other than the coach.

  240. Avery is not going to save this team

    watch what you say Billy C…
    your in for an ass whoopin…lol

  241. “ACDAVIDDC February 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Where is that Renney lover Beer Me now.
    sometimes I think Beer Me “IS’ Renney.”

    I’ve never seen the two of them together in the same place . . .

  242. Mike i am in same boat.

    I HATE LOSING and don’t take it so well. If they come out and lame duck it again after two days rest i will stop watching rest of season….ahhh who am i kidding.

  243. Regardless on the Avery deal, we need more than hime to change this season if we have any hope left

  244. The amazing thing about Sather is that he is looking to pick up Avery now when Avery will cost the Rangers $1.9M / year….which is just around the amount that Sather thought Avery was worth in his contract negotiations. Avery may have been a self-righteous pr*ck but at least the guy had some heart.

    The saddest part about all of this is that Drury has a no move clause which binds him to NYR for the next 3 years. Redden…ha…no one would take him off our hands unless we’re ready to trade Dubi or Sanguinetti and 2 1st round draft picks. Gomez…thought the guys had some b*lls when he slapped around Kovalchuk earlier in the season but the guy doesn’t have a sack.

    I feel for Dubi since this season must be a major letdown relative to playing with Jagr and Shanny. What a way to start a career.

    It’ll never happen but the C should go to Mara who is the only guy on this team (outside of Dubi, Cally and Staal) who have any heart.

    I seriously doubt anything will happen to Renney anytime soon. Maybe if the Rangers get shellacked against the Devils and Caps, maybe he’ll get the boot.

    He deserves credit for bringing some sense of respect back to the Rangers but should be fired…give him a front office job…maybe cap specialist, I’m sure he can count better than Cam Hope.

  245. Now i am going to go play soe Xbox 360 NHL and watch Hank give up 5 goals and hope i score 6. He is so bad in that game!

  246. nice stat mike d. i was wondering how much it would balloon up. he didnt play great obviously, but for a guy who gets in 15 games a year its tough to see the team play like that in front of him.

  247. Which team is more vanilla? This year’s team or the post-purge 03-04 team (the one with Chris McAllister, “the other” Mike Green, Sandy McCarthy, Josh Green, etc.)?

  248. wd40 and Renney haters,
    answer me this…on one hand the Dolans hired Sather to be the GM of the team. Most here have said, Sather hired a “yes” man in Renney to coach the team…right? So if Renney is the “yes” man who doesn’t have much say or “power” and only does what others tell him…how is he too blame… it can’t be both
    Either Renney is in charge and is doing a lousy job and should be fired
    OR
    Sather is in charge and is calling the shots and Renney just does as he is asked…in which case Sather is to blame and should be canned…Which is it?

  249. staal wart – it’s both but we know sather isn’t going anywhere and something has to change. get your head out of your booty.

  250. maybe we had a deal with dallas that if we let them humiliate us, then we could get avery for free along with a fruit basket

    i thought that for just a second too lol. yea after this i hope the team can really pull out a much needed win in jersey. i hate that they lost like this but maybe its a wakeup call to these guys. i hope some heads roll but dont bank on it because renny still has this team in the playoff race. now maybe after a feww more losses maybe he gets canned but this loss was all on the players. they were pissed about the bag skate and acted like little bitches.

  251. If Glenn didn’t sign Redden we could be signing JAY BO this summer, but Sather needed Wade Redden at 6.5 million a year ugh.

  252. i was so excited about this week of sports.. knicks and their dream week and rangers games (though i hated the 2 off days in between games)…. and now all games i saw my teams lost… even the knicks showed more passion… tehy were actually in the games with the best in the league

  253. after listening to that game where they miked Mara, he is the only vet who is really a leader with any passion left.

  254. mikey mcdick section 312 on

    SECTION309BELIEVES
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
    WOW SECTION 309 before the puck drops WED NIGHT, FIRE RENNEY FIRE RENNEY, sorry Tom I did like you for awhile and this is not all your fault but you lost the team-i mean wtf is ORR doing with 5 min to play, what is gomez doing 5 min into the game? We need TORTS ASAP, for those of you who like vali this verifies that he will never be more than a decent backup -he looks shaky on all shots and sam and joe usuually sugarcoat his game…….WOW weekend is ruined I FEEL LIKE PUKING ALL OVER REDDEN, F_ MEEEEEEEEE

    I am at SECTION 302 I will shout the same

    Im in 312 ill keep this loss fresh in my memory and will change teh potvin sucks chant to renney sucks.

    10-2………….

    10-2………………………………………..WTF

  255. Mark, we needed a PQ for our D and Redden looked like a great investment. I know it sucks, but we gotta deal with it. and i read someone said trade redden for jay bo, o yea florida will really do that in a heartbeat….

  256. Avery hasnt played in three months…we need help ASAP. The more I think about it Carcillo may be a better option, if available (although very annoying)… and yes a new coach (an GM).. I like Torts, but .. if Hartley is available, he may be a nice option..

    Andy, a belated thanks for the props on the Samoans reference.. Captain Lou was also mentioned before.. so was Cyndi Lauper.. oh no, nevermind, that was Redden.

  257. …and Mara took less money than he was offered elsewhere to sign with the Rangers. They better sign him for a couple of years so he can teach Sanguinetti, Del Zotto and Potter what it means to play with heart.

  258. I think about that every day mark.

    totally regardless of tonight i would be surprised if slats did not get avery. i doubt sather would have made the trip to dallas if something wasn’t in the work. I don’t think any other club wants him so it seems imminent. I’m not sure about the effect it will have but i’m sure it will be interesting.

  259. Torts holds everyone, even veterans, accountable for their actions. He embodies a what true New Yorker is: passionate, no nonsense, and demands effort. Call him up, Slats!

  260. ACDAVIDDC
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
    Where is that Renney lover Beer Me now.
    sometimes I think Beer Me “IS’ Renney.

    why u talk crap about beer or staalwart? thats their opinion man why give them shit because u dont agree with something they said its a blog man its supposed to be a place to state your opinion and talk about hockey,so what if they like renny? who rea,lly gives a shit?
    nyr56- lol yea hank does suck in nhl 09. its funny cuz my backup will save everything but hank lets in 5-6 a game and alot of times even when i sim thru games.

  261. Rob
    It can’t be both…I figured since some here think they know so much, maybe they could explain to me.
    I’m not disagreeing that something has to change what I am saying is that if Renney goes, Sather has to follow or we are going to end up with the same problem, another “yes” man.
    Sather won’t hire Torts…and outside of one Stanley Cup win Torts is not a very good coach…look up there records.
    Renney is slightly better looking at the numbers

  262. Staal Wart, are you so dim as to not be capable of seeing that BOTH Sather and Renney are at fault? It is not an either/or. Can you grasp that difficult concept??

    Yes Sather has done a bad job. But that does not excuse the coach! DeBoers in FLA and Ruff in BUFF have FAR worse rosters than the Rangers’ and they are playing FAR better than the NYR now. Explain how that is NOT on Renney!!?

    10-2?? Against a crappy team like Dallas? Are you effing KIDDING me that this team is coached professionally??

  263. Wow, I turned this game off at 5-2. Let us just remember that both goalies had the flu. I can’t tell you what may have been wrong with the rest of the team, though.

  264. don’t forget, the fans tried to get rid of Sather in ’04. he was so hated that he could not even show his face at ranger charity events.

    even Francesa, who hates hockey, asked Dolan why he would not fire sather, and Dolan said he loved sather and no way would he fire him. things were even worse in those days, so as much as we despise sather, and want him gone , it ain’t gonna happen. so we as fans can only focus on what we can change, the coach.

    and the players under todays cap and contracts with no move clauses, well that makes it very tough to even get rid of players who are not performing.

    so, the choice is limited for the fans.

  265. The score should have been 10 – 0!!! Two goals from behind the net and not many good chances from in front of the net. Lucky goals.

  266. Sather freaked and ran to redden to man the PP giving up any hope at Boumeester coming to NYC.. they shld have had him on the radar for 3 years…

    ..pls look at Redden’s stats for the past three years and consider his defense and then consider his contract.. how is Sather still GM?

  267. Where are you Fedor Tyutin?
    Fedor Tyutin CBJ D 52gms 7gls 17ast 24pts

    compared to Wade Redden
    Wade Redden NYR D 52gms 2gls 15ast 17pts.

    What was Sather smoking?

  268. Ooooh, Glen Sather & Schoenfeld are in Dallas — they made sure MSG showed the shot of them every period, and Sather made sure he held the phone to his ear and looked right in the camera. Now we can tell how smart he is by seeing that shot 6 times during the game. How about if we can get a photo of him getting on a flight to Siberia to bring Jagr back?

  269. wd40- i know renny is bad but he isnt that bad. he wasnt the one who put on skates and went out and played. the team lost this game as well as renny did a bad job of coaching and firing the team up. why do u give staalwart so much shit? let it be man u got ur opinion hes got his

  270. STAAL

    Are you joking, look what Torts had to deal with. He took a shitty team to the playoffs two times in the last three seasons, before they finally gave up on him. They had NO goaltending at all. He got them there, and he got them a Cup once. Making the playoffs isn’t enough, obviously, but i didn’t expect them to make it the last three years, and he managed to sneak them in for two. He knows how to fire up his guys, Renney, well after tonight, if you don’t see that, there’s something wrong with you.

    You can blame the players, and you should, but the fact is, under Renney, they don’t give 100%, he cant get that out of them, he lets them get away with murder, Redde, Drury, Gomez, they played like shit, and they NEVER missed a shift. Who was out there for that 5 on 3 ? Those three. That’s pathetic coaching. These players wont learn from their mistakes if they don’t pay for them.

    I don’t understand him, and ill never understand why anyone backs up this prick.

  271. Domi…Sather traded Tyutin for Zherdev which, as much as I liked Tyutin, was actually a steal. Plus, it rid our team of the plague: Christian Backman.

  272. It cracks me up that all Renney ever talks about is the team needs to up it’s battle level. But then he scratches Prucha game after game; a guy who will get his nose dirty all the time. Instead, we will continue to dress Voros, who is as useless as tits on a nun. Can the guy be any slower? He thinks he is a tough guy too. He brings nothing to the table in my opinion. Nigel Dawes has gone into hiding once again. I think he has played about 10 good games all season. Dubinsky should be sent to the minors in my opinion. I think he needs the kick in the pants that Callahan got last year when he was sent down. What was the last good trade or free agent signing Glen Sather has made? Gomez has been a disgrace; Drury has underachieved in regards to offense; Redden (need I say more); Rissmiller; Fritche; Voros (disgrace); Kalinan; Do I need to continue?? — Oh, I forgot Al Montoya & Hugh Jessiman. Solid first round picks don’t you think?
    Renney, how about holding some of these players accountable instead of only benching the 2 players who actually put an effort forth game after gaem (Prucha & Korporkoski).
    I’m getting so fed up with this team. This team has no personality at all. After watching Graves night, I realized that there is no one on this team that I can grasp on to. In 1994, we had guys like Messier, Leetch, Graves, Richter, Buekeboom,etc. We have nothing now. I don’t feel attached to any of these guys. My favorite player on this team is Blair Betts (our forth line center).
    OK, I’m sorry for rambling. I’m just aggravated with this team and they way they are managed.

  273. I agree with Staal Wart a 100%. Slats calls the shots, not tom. This team is lazy and it aint tom’s fault.

  274. MIKE NEV

    Lol, not too long ago. Tyuts for Nicky Z.

    Give him credit for that, unless he plays like this his whole career, while Tyuts becomes a future Norris nominee.

    Slats still sucks, along with Renney.

    FREE PRUCHA !!

    It’s unfair that he had to go through that hard workout, even though he didn’t play. It’s bullshit, but he wont complain, cause he has more class than anyone on this team.

  275. wd40…dude are you in 5th grade?
    Seriously…do you read? Do you know how to read? Do I have to interpret what I type, you know, s p e l l i t
    o u t f o r y o u?

    also read your last comment…and compare it to my comments at 11:24 and 12:01
    I can’t believe I actually have to say this again…
    ok here goes…lets do it by number
    1. Sather the builder of the team, responsible for getting parts that fit well together
    2. Renney is the coach, he organizes the team, gets the team to play well, or in this case not so well together.
    are you with me…
    3. Both the coach and GM are linked. In this case Renney is supposedly Sathers “yes” man so Renney is a drone and Sather calls the shots. Remember both are linked thats like both are at fault…
    4. Sather is at fault for getting lousy pieces that don’t fit, and spending too much on those pieces.
    5. Renney is at fault for not getting those pieces to gel.
    are you still with me wd40? here is where it gets complicated.
    6. To fire the “yes” man accomplishes nothing…why?
    because Sather is still in charge and is still calling the shots so…
    7. He hires another “yes” man and nothing changes.
    Do you get it? did you follow? Should I make things more simple?

  276. that’s a good point, Orr. the only way to punish the big name vets is by taking away their ice time.

    bag skates work on Olympic players who love their country.

    they don’t work on jaded multi-millionaires with guaranteed contracts.

  277. Watching NHL on the Fly: Jacques Lemaire pretty much ripped his team for losing 2-0 to Nashville tonight. It bothers me that Renney didn’t do the same.

  278. Sather is responsible for the lousy personnel, Renney is responsible for the under-achievement. They’re both to blame, and both must go

  279. ..since I just saw the Montoya reference: another one of my favorite Sather-isms.. he drafted Montoya #6 overall after henrik was already in the system, proviong he had no idea that he already had his franchise goalie and could have drfated a Dman or forward (who luckily picked as a throw away in the 7th rd)…

  280. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Staal Wart,Dr House,Beer me!,spiderpig,and all the other Renneyaid drinkers,at what point do you guys start blaming Renney? I really am curious.Yes I know and agree,Sather sucks!!!!!!!!!!! But you guys know that he isn’t going anywhere. It also seems most of what you call shity players are either untradable or unmovable. So what is your solution.

  281. Mike Nev
    February 7th, 2009 at 12:24 am
    It cracks me up that all Renney ever talks about is the team needs to up it’s battle level. But then he scratches Prucha game after game; a guy who will get his nose dirty all the time. Instead, we will continue to dress Voros, who is as useless as tits on a nun. Can the guy be any slower? He thinks he is a tough guy too. He brings nothing to the table in my opinion. Nigel Dawes has gone into hiding once again. I think he has played about 10 good games all season. Dubinsky should be sent to the minors in my opinion. I think he needs the kick in the pants that Callahan got last year when he was sent down. What was the last good trade or free agent signing Glen Sather has made? Gomez has been a disgrace; Drury has underachieved in regards to offense; Redden (need I say more); Rissmiller; Fritche; Voros (disgrace); Kalinan; Do I need to continue??—Oh, I forgot Al Montoya & Hugh Jessiman. Solid first round picks don’t you think?
    Renney, how about holding some of these players accountable instead of only benching the 2 players who actually put an effort forth game after gaem (Prucha & Korporkoski).
    I’m getting so fed up with this team. This team has no personality at all. After watching Graves night, I realized that there is no one on this team that I can grasp on to. In 1994, we had guys like Messier, Leetch, Graves, Richter, Buekeboom,etc. We have nothing now. I don’t feel attached to any of these guys. My favorite player on this team is Blair Betts (our forth line center).
    OK, I’m sorry for rambling. I’m just aggravated with this team and they way they are managed.

    We also had a coach that gave a damn and he made sure when you were lacking play he would sit you regardless and that guy is Mike Keenan and his team’s record this year is
    51gms 30W 17L 4OT 64pts.

  282. Here’s the plan: For all of you fortunate (or should I say unfortunate) enough to attend the home games, show these guys what a 60 minute effort really looks like. Relentlessly boo Drury, Gomez, Redden and, of course, Renney for good measure, until they beg out of New York, regardless of any “no trade” contracts they may have. If they’re going to take the money and continue to play like there are no consequences to lackluster effort, the fans should be able to get some form of payback by making them squirm a bit!

  283. Orr,
    on Torts I would beg to differ.
    Torts had a decent offensive roster. Vinny, St Louis, Boyle, etc.
    We on the other hand do have goaltending but no offense…so the teams aren’t that different.
    One could easily argue that the Offense of TB under Torts is/was much better than what we have now. I’d take Vinny and St. Louis and Boyle over Gomez, Naslund, and Rozi any day of the week. Don’t forget TB also had Prospel, and Fedotenko
    I would also take that offense over JJ, Straka, Avery, Nylander etc.

  284. now i hate renny. if i didnt like him before i really hate the man now. prucha had no reason to be punished like that.

  285. How about missing the boat on Michael Ryder as well ? 19 goals this year….

    Rangers should dress Andy Bathgate on Monday vs NJ

  286. Mike D.
    February 7th, 2009 at 12:33 am
    Watching NHL on the Fly: Jacques Lemaire pretty much ripped his team for losing 2-0 to Nashville tonight. It bothers me that Renney didn’t do the same.

    Where you there? how do you know he didn’t?

  287. LIQUID
    February 7th, 2009 at 12:38 am
    How about missing the boat on Michael Ryder as well ? 19 goals this year….

    Rangers should dress Andy Bathgate on Monday vs NJ

    That would be a big improvement

  288. Staal Wart, I should have clarified that; Lemaire ripped his team during the team press conference. After a loss like this, I think it was probably necessary – even if only for the fans.

  289. well ranger fans, im out. i know said it but i will be watchin on monday. hope to chat with you guys again. hopefully we see a better effort and hopefully a change or 20

  290. True true, Mike D. I would have loved to hear Renney rip into them…

    alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!)
    February 7th, 2009 at 12:36 am
    Staal Wart,Dr House,Beer me!,spiderpig,and all the other Renneyaid drinkers,at what point do you guys start blaming Renney? I really am curious.Yes I know and agree,Sather sucks!!!!!!!!!!! But you guys know that he isn’t going anywhere. It also seems most of what you call shity players are either untradable or unmovable. So what is your solution.

    Read the above comments for the answer…its stated clearly above.

  291. Orr, good points.
    I also agree on Renney…if he gets fired I won’t miss him but…Since I think the problem starts with Sather, I don’t think a new coach is going to solve much. Sather won’t hire a Torts, Keenan, etc type.

  292. The Dallas play by play man came up with the best comment of thie night when the score got to about 8 or so, he said “well suddenly it seems that Valiquette has become impossible to hit.”

  293. I agree Domi28. I forgot to mention that. I used to really like Renney, but now I just don’t think he is the guy to get a team to the next level. Also, isn’t Perry Pearn responsible for the power play? How does he still have a job? The PP is an absolute disgrace year after year. Oh, and lets keep putting the same crappy players out there time after time. Nothing like trying to bang a square peg into a round hole Tom. Didn’t Prucha score 30 goals the year when he was used on the PP? Why should we give him a chance again Tom? Remember Cullen scoring a bunch of goals on the power play for the Hurricanes while playing the point???? When he comes here, did Renney ever put him there??? NO. Instead we put a bunch of guys back there that refuse to shoot the damn puck.
    OK, I’m ramabling again. My thoughts are all over the place.

  294. rick this is all ur fault we haven’t won with u at the helm

    And fire renney one time for the people

  295. Well I can tell ou one guy who played well and that was Reitz.

    He’s not bad at all. When he hits the guy goes down. When he clears the puck he doesn’t shove it thru people willy nilly, he skates (quickly) to an openieng before making the clearing pass. He plays a very controlled game – and he has a very substantial shot from the point and he doesn’t hesitate to uncork it. Makes Redden look like a rank amateur.

  296. Cmon, ORR, let me get it all out.. Montoya did come out of a lousy draft, but still, he progressed into nothing… (yeah, depietro and Fleury were #1s, but they are/were playing. .Montoya may never see a pro rink)..Jessiman is unspeakable (see that 1st rd after him)… Prucha was one of his better picks and uhhh… Dubs, Cally, Dawes and yes, even, Staal need to prove some more.. Giradi went undrafted – and is being destoyed by his 6.5 million defense partner

  297. i still blame the players they are soooooo freakin lazy. Maybe they just plainly SUCK! thats it. How much can Tom do with a lineup with a bunch of druggies and overpaid idiots. Slats is definently the problem. I freakin hate that guy for not resigning Jags. If he does bring back avery he is still not forgiven.

  298. ORR
    I agree. But now he puts the same guys on the blue line during the power play that have given up 13 shorthanded goals (I think that’s the current total). He has no clue.

  299. ORR
    I agree with you. But now he puts the same guys on the blue line during the power play that have given up 13 shorthanded goals (I think that’s the current total). He has no clue.

  300. I’m almost to the point where I hope the Rangers buy out Redden and Drury after this season. I dont even care about the cap implications.

    I wonder what Tom will use to keep Prucha out of the lineup. Because all the things he says the guy lacks, defensive prowess, physicality, and scoring touch sure arent evident in the Ranger team. Granted, Prucha will not be the savior that turns this team around, but my god, get rid of Voros.

  301. COSTANZA

    Im not defending that waste Montoya at all. But this team had no goaltending for the longest time, and had no prospects that can take over, especially after Blackburn’s career ended. I just cant blame him for taking a chance on a potential star goalie. Obviously that didn’t work out, and he couldn’t even backup Hank.

    If Korpedo is a bust, then that’s the one you have to blame Slats for, cause i think those two came inthe same draft in the 1st round.

  302. I didnt even watch the game, but i’m guessing the game was more entertaining than some of the Rangers’ recent wins…with all the goals and offense provided by Dallas.

  303. HOUSE

    You’re clueless. This teams lazy cause he just cant get them to play this game at a decent level. Whether it’s the players faults, or the coaches, SOMETHING needs to be done. Often times a coach getting canned will turn things around, look at the Capitals last year, and the Hawks this year. Granted those teams have better talent than Nyr.

    Point being, if these idiots cant wake up, then make them. Who knows maybe they’ll feel so bad that the beloved coach got fired, and that gets them fired up, or they still play like shit, and lose every game of the season. It’s a win-win for me personally. I either want the Cup, or Tavares, i don’t want what’s in between cause after 3 years, it’s getting pretty fuggin annoying.

  304. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. Fire Tom. (The chant for the next 30 games before Tom Renney is fired).

  305. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    Once again a frantic push to try and make the playoffs is upon us.What will follow is a first round exit,a low first round draft pick and four untradable and unmovable contracts.A gm who has no clue.A coachwho is just as clueless and a poor pro scouting team that help saddle us fans with these losers.It’s so bad that we can’t even be sellers at the trade deadline because no one will take our overpaid scrubs.The dark days are back upon us my fellow fans because nothing will happen. Sather will be here until he’s moved out in a box. And so will clueless Tom Thumb the “coach”. But not all the fans will be upset however.

    The Renneyaide brigade and you know who you are will still have their “coach”.And as usual,he will create some more of his Tom Renney strategic magic wtih a system that is called cantankorous synergy.

  306. When i met Slats going up the escalator last year you can just see the look on his face. He is arrogant, ace. He likes Renney cause Renney listens to him.

    I say we get Aves and take it from there. I really dont care if Valli or anyone else hates him. Cause as of right now alot of us hate the current rangers.

  307. Friends of Dr. D on

    The biggest argument one can make against Renney is his team hasn’t even had to deal with injuries this season!! Imagine if they had the normal amount of injuries and weren’t really lucky in that dept? They’d be around 12th place right now.

    Even the ardent Renney defenders on forums like Rangerland, HFboards and HockeyRodent admit he has to go now. Anyone still defending him now is either doing it for a laugh, or is related to him.

  308. What is even more embarressing is that the Stars did not even have their captain, and one of their best players on the ice, Brendan Morrow….who is out with an injury….

    After seeing Morrow play in the playoffs last season, and to compare our captain, Chris Drury to Morrow…

    would be the differnce of a house cat to a mountain lion…..

  309. Friends of Doctor D, does that include Margaret Hurley? Each day another Renney apologist bites the dust.

    “And another one’s gone, and another one’s gone, and another one bites the dust”

  310. Avery is an idiot. I don’t want him or his antics back. I agree that they need a player like him, but not him. They need team guys, not one that will divide a team. Did you see Steve Ott tonight? That’s a guy we need. Or a guy like Thomas Holmstrom in Detroit. We also need a guy who can actually play defense. I’m tired of watching stick checking game after game. Why in the world did we not go after Orpik? Instead we get Redden who is like every other defensemen we have, but worse. We could also use a few guys that can actually score consistently. Other than all that, we are golden.

  311. “When i met Slats going up the escalator last year you can just see the look on his face. He is arrogant, ace. He likes Renney cause Renney listens to him”

    And the Veterans love Renney cause they know that they wont get scratched, or benched if they screw up.

    NOW, i know why all these players say the come here not just cause of the team, but because Renney is a great coach. It’s all so obvious now.

    Im going to sleep now, and i gotta be honest, i really do expect Renney to get fired by the afternoon, if not then he’s gonna remain the coach for the rest of the year, and for a long time unless we have a Flyers 06-07 season.

    Slats, get it done, do the right thing. SIGN AVERY, FIRE RENNEY !!!

  312. RetireBradPark's#2 on

    The marquee players are invisible.
    The other lines just aren’t good enough.
    The team lacks character, grit, and accountability.
    The only thing worse than a 5-on-3 is a 2-on-1.
    The system? What system would they excel in?

    The only thing they’ve mastered is bullshit excuses for why they suck.

    Shame on you, ’08-’09 Rangers.

  313. boobsensausage on

    you fucks!!! shit!!! fuck!!!!

    Man i coulda BEEN GRINDIN at a night club club tonight but instead i stayed home wtahced that fuckin game while whackin my weiner during the commercial

    fuck!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

    I’LL TAKE ANY ONE OF YOU FUCKIN CLOWNS!!!

  314. Avery is an idiot and my response is who give a cr-p..

    he is not dating my daughter, he wants to win and plays hard and smart(most of the time) the rest who gives a crap.

    again morons sit; voros, kalinan, orr, sjustrom, and have some guts to sit the vets who do not use ther brain.

    the 1st Dallas goal was not a little mistake by Gomez but a \
    mind boggling piece of cr-p mistake.. reall ythe first 3 goals were pathetic… the redden clear over the boards, from his backhand with time!!!!Give me a break…

    the gomer giveaway joke at center ise, and you morons are pissed at dawes from shying away from a lucic hit at the blue line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  315. all the negativity about renny and sather is warranted but do not give up on 22 yr olds like Korpikoski.

    the guy is 22 yrs old, young guys need time before you call them busts..

  316. matt my oldest is 15 and not of dating age, maybe in about 10 years.

    I mean if a couch potatoe like me thinks Voros is ajoke and

    sjustrom is a rico fata clone why can’t the supposed smart guys see it?

    I mean could you see lamiorella putting up with this crap???

    Gomez must be out of his mind, his play is really really bad.. I can see being in a scoring drought but his 2 first period turnovers were staggering..

    Zipay is calling Kalinan a consistent D man. Kalinan is consisten he is consistently bad, like christian backman…

    the good start is all for naught, I cannot beleive how bad this team is playing it is head shaking…

    I mean redden has 2 goals and 17 total points in over 50 games!!!!!!

    You think Voros will get enhanced minutes on Monday???Probably…

  317. Pete
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
    “what will be his excuse for not playing prucha on monday”

    Pete Get a life Although, he has all the heart in world he’s too freeken small & bounces off players. All you bloggers who are members of “Woodies for Prucha Club” should understand the only reason we still have him is his salary is too high & nobody wants him.

    Billy C
    February 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
    “This is the most embarrassing games of hockey i have ever watch. the rangers totally gave up in the third and did not show up for the final 20. they completely quit out there and that is irrefutable.

    with that being said i am one of the few ranger fans that is in renney’s corner. i don’t think he is the problem as much as the players that sather has gone out and bought over the summer. no forward is near a first”

    Great post. Very insightful

    My question to all bloggers that were bored with 2-1,1-0& 3-2 losses and preferred hight scoring lossed. Any second thoughs now?????????

  318. Sorry My question to all bloggers that were bored with 2-1,1-0 & 3-2 losses and preferred high scoring losses. Any second thoughts now?????????

  319. lone ranger if your advocating a 2-1 loss over a 10-2 loss its all the same.

    we cant score in both cases and that has to do with piss poor power play system and a piss poor forecheck and cycling system

  320. Chris, simply stated a 2-1 loss means you played a far better defensive game and should stand a better chance of winning if you play this way in the future, logically speaking. What don’t you understand???

  321. Regarding checking and cycling, this team hasn’t done that since the first 15 games of the season when they hit hard, checked and played a puck contral game.

  322. Ok?- We lost 2 straight games 1-0 and 2-1(shootout) respectively.

    Im not saying get blown out 10-2 every night but do you notice a problem?

    you win the the two previous games and lose tonight regardless of score you still have 67 points are in 4th and 2pts behind the devils. Instead becasue of the poor offensive system and poor power play by renny and friends we are now risking falling out of the top 8

  323. All Hail King Henrik on

    Poor Valley…the guy was just off tonight. You could see right from the start that he was slow. It’s gotta suck to play through the flu. We did get absolutely raped, but if Valley was on top of his game, and not sick with the flu, that game would’ve been 6-2 at most, not 10-2.

    Jesus H. Christ, though. 10-2? WTF.

    Renney needs to go, but so does Sather. Scotty Bowman himself could come in and coach this team and they would still not be a stanley cup contender. They’d have a better record, but no coach is going to turn this team into a Stanley cup contender.

    As long as Wade Redden is our “centerpiece” $6.5 million dollar defenseman, this team is going nowhere. Scott Gomez and Chris Drury’s $7 million dollar salaries aren’t helping either.

  324. This loss was a joke, an utter embarrassment. Please waive Redden. Gomez is better than that. Voros should be scratched for a month.

    I honestly would rather watch AA and Bobby Sags (and Sauer too) learn the NHL game even if they’re not fully ready and struggle but give a full effort for the last 29 games then this junk.

  325. You’re totally missing the point. The Rangers as a team are not that good offensively & need to play defensive forcing the other team to make a mistake in order to win. We can’t score with the current roster. Hello

  326. Chris-big producers but none have ever been THE man on their team.

    Gomez-He had the two Scotts on defense, The A Line, and Fatso and a Selke nominee every year in Madden

    Drury-Colo he had Sakic/forsberg/Bourque/etc/etc. in Calgary he sucked and they traded him and in Buffalo he had Brier/Vanek/Miller/Afiniganov/etc.

    Redden-The three mustketeers Alfredson/Heately/Spezza and Norris nominee Chara along with Volchenkov/etc.

    Naslund-Had Bertuzzi who beat up everyone who would touch him and everyone’s favorite Swedish twins (well, not really LOL)

    point is; these are B+ players who all had partners or a supporting cast to hide their weaknesses. The Rangers only have Henrik and Staal at this point with great role players like Cally/Dubi and young works in progress like Zherdev and some very young guys like AA/Grachev and the D prospects but no prime time bona fide star or goal scorer.

    It is what it is :(

  327. Poll:

    Who is the worst Ranger ever? 1. Wade Redden 2. Jari Kurri 3. Bob Carpenter 4. Ken Hodge 5. Valerei Kamensky

    Aaron Voros is?: 1.Adam Hall 2.0
    2. The Canadian version of Michael Grosek 3. Since this is season four post-lockout is he Ryan Hollweg’s season four replacement to raise ratings? 4. Marcel Hossa’s future KHL tag team buddy.

    You decide!

  328. It’s hard, but I hate to keep saying, “Who runs this team?” It’s so hard to figure out what the leadership chemistry is on this team and how “leadership” is executed on the ice.

    I feel like there’s no sacrifice. Tonight against Dallas Zherdev was the best player on the ice. Cally played really hard…but who else? Damn, I bitched about the forth line but they played well tonight… Kinda.

    Anyowho, I won’t lose sleep if there’s a new coach behind the bench. So far I can say that Gomez and Drury, as much as I love them as players, have zero leadership skills on the ice. I’d love to know what Gomer said to Renney on the bench halfway though when they were being hammered.

    Fans want to see passion…we’re about one player away from that (cough, cough).

    The “rebuild” concept was awesome at the beginning the season…no more focal points (Jagr, Avery, Shanny)….just a “solid” TEAM that would get us through the…regular season?. Playoffs? Stanley Cup?

    The first quarter of the season they were the first guys to the puck. Every time. Now they keep backing up…and backing up…sigh.

    No “enigmatic” Jagr. No “locker room drama queen Avery.” No “past-his-prime-has-been” Shanny. Just some new guys, a new system and Gomez and Drury….so…the Rangers leave Henrik and his backup out to dry every night. Watch the Penns and the Rangers swap spots for last place before the playoff birth.

    I’m ALMOST thinking about…instead of spending $1,000+ on season tickets and just throwing a few bucks at Caps games…taking Amtrak once a moth to watch Ovechkin and Semin.

    Ouch!

    More windsprints for the Strangers! BTW, Shanny fought off a young punk tonight.

  329. you want sather gone?? Stop going to the games…Notice Lou in NJ HAS to keep a winning product on the ice in NJ because they are not a draw without them being good…they still struggle to be a draw when they are good…but they cant afford to be bad and EVERYONE on that team is held accountable for their actions and if you don’t like it you are gone. The Rangers are nothing but a bunch of guys getting together at a country club. They have EVERYTHING handed to them on a silver platter…no accountability is held to anyone…I like Renney personally and I REALLY believe he cares about the blueshirts and maybe he should go back up to the front office but this team needs a pesonality overhaul (getting rid of the extra 3rd and 4th line players wouldnt hurt). They need to be held accountable for their actions or lack of…getting someone who is a hot head isnt really the answer either, look at keenan the other night in Calgary he slammed his stick and had a fit and they still lost 5-2. The players need to look in the mirror.

  330. Lets Go Boys! Yeah way to bring it! What a joke.

    Renney has now done the full 360 – from joke – to respectability – back to joke!

    Nice work boys!

    Oh and Sather – do us a favor and put yourself on waivers.

    And alll you losers with the bandwagon cr@p comments – open your eyes. This team is toast. A second round exit would be a result at this point. These guys wont even sniff the playoffs.

    Oh yeah and lets bring back Avery – that should bring some respectability back to the team. Good plan Sather.

    I hope Shanny has a hat-trick Monday night!

  331. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    The next comments to come from the team and the coaches will be about how the flu is going through the players.The excuses and cliches will be out ib full force!

  332. Here is my take:

    1) Gomer had his worst game in a Ranger uniform.

    2) Why Orr didn’t fight Ott at any one of 5 occasions is beyond me?

    3) Redden sucks as usual.

    4) The Avery news backfired and the team made a statement.

    5) The team has given up on Renney. No doubt. They want him gone. I stopped watching at 6-2 (I had it DVR’ed). You don’t play like that and lose to those guys by 8 (when they were down by 2 at the start of the period) unless you really don’t give a crap.

    6) Good chance FL and the Pens leap the Rangers and the Blueshirts don’t make the playoffs.

    Depressed.

    5)

  333. “Who is the worst Ranger ever? 1. Wade Redden 2. Jari Kurri 3. Bob Carpenter 4. Ken Hodge 5. Valerei Kamensky

    Aaron Voros is?: 1.Adam Hall 2.0
    2. The Canadian version of Michael Grosek 3. Since this is season four post-lockout is he Ryan Hollweg’s season four replacement to raise ratings? 4. Marcel Hossa’s future KHL tag team buddy.”

    Dude, you can’t even include Redden with that list. He’s REALLY overpaid, but he isn’t any worse than Kalinin is or Malik was. It’s his contract that really underlines how bad he has played. But Both Kalinin and Malik before him were WAY worse than Redden. Also Rachunek and Ozolinsh were also much, MUCH worse.

    That’s not to say Redden is doing well. Make no mistake, the guy sucks. But the worst ever? Hardly.

    Voros is Adam Hall 2.0. GREAT comparison.

    650 comments in one night is a definite record. Since I haven’t seen any of them, I will assume that about half call for Renney to be fired, 10% blaming Sather, 10% defending Renney, 15% commenting on the game, and the remanin comments directed at specific players.

    My thoughts moving forward (as my thoughts about last night I’m sure have been echoed by about two thirds of the posts from last night):

    1) Can there be any doubt that the team’s #1 priority this offseason should be to resign Zherdev?

    2) Poor Valliquette. Next time LQ has to miss a game, he shouldnt ride the pine; they should recall MiiWii in case Valli gets destroyed. By the end of the game he was so defeated that he couldn’t stop anything. I would’ve preferred a shooter tutor instead of Valli for the last 10 minutes of the game.

    3) We dominated the Thrashers by losing 2-1 in a SO? How would you describe what the Devils did last night?

    4) Gomez was benched in the third. That’s a good first step. Let’s see if Renney will grow some balls and make him watch from the stands. Ditto for Voros, who was absolutely wretched.

    5) How can Prucha NOT play at this point?? Honestly, could it get any worse than 10-2?

    6) 10 goals in Renney’s defensive system. Just saying. Couldn’t resist.

    7) If Florida keeps playing well and they don’t move Bouwmeester at the deadline, we’re missing the playoffs.

    8) God help us if we take Avery off of reentry waivers like he’s going to be the solution to why this team lost 10-2. He’s just going to be 2 million in cap space were going to lose for the next 3 years. 2 million in cap space which could have been used on Zherdev or our other RFAs like Dubinsky and Staal in 2010.

    9) I really like Dubinsky on the wing. Enough so that I don’t miss his great faceoff skills.

    I’m going back to bed.

  334. Hey, at least there is no “Quit” in this team. They didn’t leave the building after 48 minutes of play, they skated out the entire 60-minute game – like it was a waltz. a minuet or the ballet, sure, but at least they didn’t quit.

  335. I don’t think Avery will be the answer to this team’s problems, not by a long shot, but maybe he will be a start.

    The Rangers need a spark, some type of jump in their game because right now, they look dead out there. I must have watched a totally different game than Renney when the Rangers played the Thrashers on Tuesday because I didn’t see any dominance at all in that game (Maybe the last 2 minutes of play in the third were dominated by the Rangers).

    This 10-2 loss shows that they just gave up in the third period, after the Stars scored the quick goal. Allowing three goals in the span of 1:10, then allowing two more…that has “given up” all over it. Vally lost his confidence and the defense disappeared.

  336. a casual observer on

    The players have given up on this coaching staff. Either players have to be changed or coaching staff has to go. It’s that simple(I think a combo of the two has to happen). Renney and Pearn always talk about going to the next, forececk with passion, ect,ect… I NEVER NEVER EVER see this happen in the actual game. These players are NEVER held accountable for their actions (except Prucha). If Sather cared about this team and it’s fans (if) he would be in interviews for a new coaching staff. There are some talented guys out there who will talk about going to the next, forececk with passion, ect,ect and DEMAND IT every night from his players! That is the coach we need. With a strong coach Redden would have splinters at this point!

  337. I just can’t help gloating, just a little:

    My prediction at the beginning of the season would be that
    Philly would be at the top of the division and Rangers would be scratching for a playoff spot. A bold prediction when the Rangers were in first by a wide margin, and the Flyers were in last by a wide margin.

    Well, the Rangers will be clawing for a playoff spot, and the Flyers trail us by only 2 points with 3 games in hand. The only X factor was the Devils. Honestly, who thought they would be that good this year.

    I also said that the Pens (most people’s concensus pick to win the division) were really overrated, and I was right about that too, although I didn’t think they would be THIS bad.

    Also, just a thought: Does anyone think Renney’s bag skate emptied their gas tanks a bit for last night’s game?

  338. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!) on

    doodie said-
    Also, just a thought: Does anyone think Renney’s bag skate emptied their gas tanks a bit for last night’s game?

    I don’t think a bag skate takes as much of a toll as playing the night before like Dallas did.

    I think what the bag skate did though was to finally be the straw that broke the hyena’s back.That bag skate will go down as the day the players finally showed that they have officially tune out Tom Renney and his renneyade.

  339. Next time MSG shows us a clip of Sather and Schoenfeld in the stands, make sure one of them holds up today’s newspaper so we can make sure it’s not old footage.

    What happened to our team leadership? They can’t even give an interview — the current leadership just sends the young guys out to take the heat. Jagr and Shanahan always took the heat themselves, but Gomez and Drury let the kids face the music. Occasionally they speak to the press, but they don’t like tough questions. That’s a problem.

  340. 0necupin67years on

    remember this, with the exception of the cup in ’94 , what we are seeing is typical ranger hockey.
    There aren’t any winning dynasties in this franchise , never were.
    Only losing dynasties like this year.

  341. I think its time Sather does what Emile Francis did years ago when the rangers played like this, put the entire miserable team on waivers! Then he should resign for bringing this shame on the rangers. Lets see if Sather has the balls to do the right thing.

  342. hey loneranger kimosabe. I’ve got news for you. the Rangers did NOT change their style of play vs Dallas. they did not lose 10-2 because Renney all of a sudden decided to begin using a 2-1-2 forecheck.

    NO, they played the same crap trap that Renney has been playing , a 1-2-2

    the only difference was that the players quit on Renney.

    so, the score is immaterial if they still are not playing the right system

    repeat, they did NOT change the system, so your posts are meaningless.

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