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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/02/04/some-overnight-thoughts/#comment-133141</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dm - 11:26

jagr begged out of shootout. drury was passed up by the clueless coach. big difference</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dm &#8211; 11:26</p>
<p>jagr begged out of shootout. drury was passed up by the clueless coach. big difference</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/02/04/some-overnight-thoughts/#comment-133138</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meant 10:50 not 10:40</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meant 10:50 not 10:40</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/02/04/some-overnight-thoughts/#comment-133137</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>domi - 10:40 i think the current rangers can take them considering mess is 48 and howell and bathgate are pretty old</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>domi &#8211; 10:40 i think the current rangers can take them considering mess is 48 and howell and bathgate are pretty old</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/02/04/some-overnight-thoughts/#comment-133133</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cliff - 10:07 i hope you&#039;re kidding recommending AA for one of the shootout spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cliff &#8211; 10:07 i hope you&#8217;re kidding recommending AA for one of the shootout spots.</p>
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		<title>By: ogerp jr</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/02/04/some-overnight-thoughts/#comment-133126</link>
		<dc:creator>ogerp jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doodie machetto ,

while i agree with some of your points.  i couldn&#039;t disagree with you more on your freddy sjostrom criticism.

there&#039;s no dout sjostrom belongs on the 4th line but you can&#039;t deny he has one of the quickest set of hands on the team and skates well with the puck (in open ice).

you can argue that the rangers pay millions more to dury and he should be out there but renney has every reason to believe sjostrom can make something happen.

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as for the OT debate.  (i brought this up weeks ago)

the league should motivate teams to win in regulation or OT and NOT the shootout.  while i agree, the shootout shouldn&#039;t determine the outcome of a hoockey game and OT should be 4x4 for 10-20 minutes, we all know the union will never let it happen.

in order to motivate teams to win in regulation or OT, they should abolish a single point for a tie and restructure the points system (again).

- 3 points for regulation or OT win
- After 5 mintues of OT, goto a shootout and 2 pts. for a shootout win
- Or get rid of the shootout and extend OT, don&#039;t encourage teams to play boring hockey for a silly one point or taking the game into a skills competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doodie machetto ,</p>
<p>while i agree with some of your points.  i couldn&#8217;t disagree with you more on your freddy sjostrom criticism.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s no dout sjostrom belongs on the 4th line but you can&#8217;t deny he has one of the quickest set of hands on the team and skates well with the puck (in open ice).</p>
<p>you can argue that the rangers pay millions more to dury and he should be out there but renney has every reason to believe sjostrom can make something happen.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>as for the OT debate.  (i brought this up weeks ago)</p>
<p>the league should motivate teams to win in regulation or OT and NOT the shootout.  while i agree, the shootout shouldn&#8217;t determine the outcome of a hoockey game and OT should be 4&#215;4 for 10-20 minutes, we all know the union will never let it happen.</p>
<p>in order to motivate teams to win in regulation or OT, they should abolish a single point for a tie and restructure the points system (again).</p>
<p> &#8211; 3 points for regulation or OT win &#8211; After 5 mintues of OT, goto a shootout and 2 pts. for a shootout win &#8211; Or get rid of the shootout and extend OT, don&#8217;t encourage teams to play boring hockey for a silly one point or taking the game into a skills competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Speed Ranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speed Ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly if a team can&#039;t score a goal on 40 shots it doesn&#039;t make a difference if there&#039;s a shootout or not. 

20 or even 10 min overtime is too much to add on to 1 of 82 reg season games. Takes too much out of the players at a time when it doesn&#039;t matter so much in the long run -- reg season is just jockeying for playoff position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly if a team can&#8217;t score a goal on 40 shots it doesn&#8217;t make a difference if there&#8217;s a shootout or not. </p>
<p>20 or even 10 min overtime is too much to add on to 1 of 82 reg season games. Takes too much out of the players at a time when it doesn&#8217;t matter so much in the long run&#8212;reg season is just jockeying for playoff position.</p>
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		<title>By: Broadway Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broadway Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The King is the only elite player the Rangers have, &amp; the only player on the team opponents have to be concerned with. I guarantee that of all the goalies in the League, Lundqvist has faced the most shots where there is no defender between the guy with the puck &amp; the goalie.  Furthermore, while NYR may have fired 40+ shots on net last night, Lundqvist facing around 25, had to make the tougher saves. Invariably, he has to face to tougher scoring chances. If the rest of the team (other than Staal &amp; Betts)were as good at their job as Lundqvist is at his, Rangers&#039; fans wouldn&#039;t be cursing to themselves &amp; the talk on blogs would be very different. Lundqvist&#039;s play is the least of Rangers concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The King is the only elite player the Rangers have, &#038; the only player on the team opponents have to be concerned with. I guarantee that of all the goalies in the League, Lundqvist has faced the most shots where there is no defender between the guy with the puck &#038; the goalie.  Furthermore, while NYR may have fired 40+ shots on net last night, Lundqvist facing around 25, had to make the tougher saves. Invariably, he has to face to tougher scoring chances. If the rest of the team (other than Staal &#038; Betts)were as good at their job as Lundqvist is at his, Rangers&#8217; fans wouldn&#8217;t be cursing to themselves &#038; the talk on blogs would be very different. Lundqvist&#8217;s play is the least of Rangers concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: rocketnyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocketnyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Renney and his horrible &quot;system&quot; is the biggest problem with this team. Yes, there are other problems, but if you take Renney out of the equation, the other problems become manageable.

When your veteran players are just going through the motions and obviously don&#039;t care if they win or lose, the coach and his staff are at fault. The system stinks, the players hate it, and they aren&#039;t putting themselves on the line for a clueless coach. 

I&#039;m sure that many players (Gomez, Drury, Naslund) don&#039;t even care if they are traded - they know they would be better off on a new team. But getting rid of those guys won&#039;t solve the problem, because Renney will still be around to disillusion and demoralize the next group of players that Sather brings in.

Renney cannot grasp the importance of utilizing a player&#039;s talents. He wants a team of interchangeable robots. He thinks that someone with no skills like Voros can be a power forward just because he&#039;s big. He thinks a talented guy like Prucha is unusable because he&#039;s not big. He wants a team of 9 Brad Isbisters for his forwards, and 6 Maliks for his defense. In other words, CLUELESS!

Renney was merely a figurehead while Jagr and his Czech friends actually ran the team for 3 years. Now that they are gone, Renney is exposed for being nothing more than a glorified pencil pusher. In the game when Renney got clocked in the head and had to leave, team was better coached and played better without him. 

I want Messier to come out and publicly state his intention to take Sather&#039;s job as GM. Junior Dolan, knowing the fans&#039; love for Messier, and considering Dolan&#039;s love for &quot;star quality&quot;, would probably insist that Slats take a hike if Mess wanted the job.

That way we&#039;ll have a GM who cares, who WILL NOT accept failure, and best of all... the first thing he&#039;ll do is to FIRE RENNEY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Renney and his horrible &#8220;system&#8221; is the biggest problem with this team. Yes, there are other problems, but if you take Renney out of the equation, the other problems become manageable.</p>
<p>When your veteran players are just going through the motions and obviously don&#8217;t care if they win or lose, the coach and his staff are at fault. The system stinks, the players hate it, and they aren&#8217;t putting themselves on the line for a clueless coach. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that many players (Gomez, Drury, Naslund) don&#8217;t even care if they are traded &#8211; they know they would be better off on a new team. But getting rid of those guys won&#8217;t solve the problem, because Renney will still be around to disillusion and demoralize the next group of players that Sather brings in.</p>
<p>Renney cannot grasp the importance of utilizing a player&#8217;s talents. He wants a team of interchangeable robots. He thinks that someone with no skills like Voros can be a power forward just because he&#8217;s big. He thinks a talented guy like Prucha is unusable because he&#8217;s not big. He wants a team of 9 Brad Isbisters for his forwards, and 6 Maliks for his defense. In other words, CLUELESS!</p>
<p>Renney was merely a figurehead while Jagr and his Czech friends actually ran the team for 3 years. Now that they are gone, Renney is exposed for being nothing more than a glorified pencil pusher. In the game when Renney got clocked in the head and had to leave, team was better coached and played better without him. </p>
<p>I want Messier to come out and publicly state his intention to take Sather&#8217;s job as GM. Junior Dolan, knowing the fans&#8217; love for Messier, and considering Dolan&#8217;s love for &#8220;star quality&#8221;, would probably insist that Slats take a hike if Mess wanted the job.</p>
<p>That way we&#8217;ll have a GM who cares, who WILL NOT accept failure, and best of all&#8230; the first thing he&#8217;ll do is to FIRE RENNEY.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when they were tinkering with the rules coming out of the lockout, their first idea was to have 4 mins of 4-on-4 OT, and then 3 mins of 3-on-3. THAT would have ended most games, and the shootout would have been RARE.  that is what they should have done. if the shootout is RARE, it then becomes more interesting. but, when it becomes commonplace, like it has, then it loses its lustre.

and I agree with the comment that you should have criticized it during the 8 SO wins.

as a matter of fact,without the shootout, the Rangers would be in trouble in the standings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when they were tinkering with the rules coming out of the lockout, their first idea was to have 4 mins of 4-on-4 OT, and then 3 mins of 3-on-3. THAT would have ended most games, and the shootout would have been RARE.  that is what they should have done. if the shootout is RARE, it then becomes more interesting. but, when it becomes commonplace, like it has, then it loses its lustre.</p>
<p>and I agree with the comment that you should have criticized it during the 8 SO wins.</p>
<p>as a matter of fact,without the shootout, the Rangers would be in trouble in the standings.</p>
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		<title>By: Fischler's Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fischler's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ford,

of course we&#039;d like to see what I proposed and what was talked about in the preseason, but honestly do you think this team could play that way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ford,</p>
<p>of course we&#8217;d like to see what I proposed and what was talked about in the preseason, but honestly do you think this team could play that way?</p>
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