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		<title>By: UnmaskedGremlin</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/lundqvist-an-all-star/comment-page-5/#comment-125195</link>
		<dc:creator>UnmaskedGremlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, good research, Kaleta is on IR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, good research, Kaleta is on IR.</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/lundqvist-an-all-star/comment-page-5/#comment-125185</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed richter better than lundqvist

roy and brodeur better than # 35
he is equal to hasek and fuhr and better than the others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed richter better than lundqvist</p>
<p>roy and brodeur better than # 35<br />
he is equal to hasek and fuhr and better than the others</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/lundqvist-an-all-star/comment-page-5/#comment-125178</link>
		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cwg- time to get a new uniform. sean&#039;s not coming here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cwg- time to get a new uniform. sean&#8217;s not coming here.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaspar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaspar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bottom line

Brodeaur was a better goalie career-wise and...he got better after say 1999 when the devils actually played offense ( led the league in goals twice)

By 2002 Richter was 36 years old and dopey....

Fat Marty is 36 this year


during mid-nineties if you watched ranger games and you watched devils games and you didnt see that ranger games were shooting galleries and devil games were cluct and grab 16 shots per game danes...well then there is no turning you around...

I just said that between 93-97 Richter was better

I also think Richter was better the Lundqvist so has that for Homerism??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bottom line</p>
<p>Brodeaur was a better goalie career-wise and&#8230;he got better after say 1999 when the devils actually played offense ( led the league in goals twice)</p>
<p>By 2002 Richter was 36 years old and dopey&#8230;.</p>
<p>Fat Marty is 36 this year</p>
<p>during mid-nineties if you watched ranger games and you watched devils games and you didnt see that ranger games were shooting galleries and devil games were cluct and grab 16 shots per game danes&#8230;well then there is no turning you around&#8230;</p>
<p>I just said that between 93-97 Richter was better</p>
<p>I also think Richter was better the Lundqvist so has that for Homerism??</p>
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		<title>By: doodie machetto</title>
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		<dc:creator>doodie machetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine, I&#039;ll drop Potvin, I&#039;ll admit that was reaching. But I also didn&#039;t even think for more than 10 seconds, and Potvin put together a couple of very nice seasons in the mid 90s, much like Richter.

As for Richter beating Marty a few times from 94-97, I&#039;d like to point out a few things:

1) Richter was in his Prime, Brodeur was in his first couple of seasons.

2) Say what you want about the Devils&#039; &quot;system,&quot; but it never worked until Marty got between the pipes. That&#039;s why no one will ever talk about Chris Tereiri.

3) Richter had a GAA that was lower than 2.6 only once, when it was 2.57 in 94, the stellar season that I will grant him. By contrast, Brodeur has had his GAA be as high as 2.57 ONCE, in 05-06. 

4) Richter never had his save percentage as high as 91.5%. Brodeur has done it 6 times, the first three of which were 94, 97, and 98, all prime years for Richter.

5) From 98-02, Brodeur DOMINATED Richter and the Rangers.

To say he was a better goaltender than Brodeur is blatant homerism. It&#039;s fine to hate Brodeur&#039;s guts, lord knows I do, but it&#039;s another to disregard his accomplishments.

So let&#039;s review the list: Roy, Hasek, Belfour, Brodeur, Fuhr, CuJo, Vernon. Even if you have a gripe with 3 of those guys, Richter is still the 5th best of his era. When you consider there are only about THIRTY goaltenders in the HOF, 5th best from your era doesn&#039;t cut it. He doesn&#039;t have the stats, he doesn&#039;t have the hardware. He&#039;s a great part of Rangers and USA Hockey history, but that&#039;s where it will end for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine, I&#8217;ll drop Potvin, I&#8217;ll admit that was reaching. But I also didn&#8217;t even think for more than 10 seconds, and Potvin put together a couple of very nice seasons in the mid 90s, much like Richter.</p>
<p>As for Richter beating Marty a few times from 94-97, I&#8217;d like to point out a few things:</p>
<p>1) Richter was in his Prime, Brodeur was in his first couple of seasons.</p>
<p>2) Say what you want about the Devils&#8217; &#8220;system,&#8221; but it never worked until Marty got between the pipes. That&#8217;s why no one will ever talk about Chris Tereiri.</p>
<p>3) Richter had a GAA that was lower than 2.6 only once, when it was 2.57 in 94, the stellar season that I will grant him. By contrast, Brodeur has had his GAA be as high as 2.57 ONCE, in 05-06. </p>
<p>4) Richter never had his save percentage as high as 91.5%. Brodeur has done it 6 times, the first three of which were 94, 97, and 98, all prime years for Richter.</p>
<p>5) From 98-02, Brodeur DOMINATED Richter and the Rangers.</p>
<p>To say he was a better goaltender than Brodeur is blatant homerism. It&#8217;s fine to hate Brodeur&#8217;s guts, lord knows I do, but it&#8217;s another to disregard his accomplishments.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s review the list: Roy, Hasek, Belfour, Brodeur, Fuhr, CuJo, Vernon. Even if you have a gripe with 3 of those guys, Richter is still the 5th best of his era. When you consider there are only about THIRTY goaltenders in the HOF, 5th best from your era doesn&#8217;t cut it. He doesn&#8217;t have the stats, he doesn&#8217;t have the hardware. He&#8217;s a great part of Rangers and USA Hockey history, but that&#8217;s where it will end for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaspar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaspar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ob Brooksie:
He is a muck-raker and tends to go negative...sometimes you just have to admit that you need people like that for the counter-balance of a very apathetic ( hockey-wise) NY media..just like Beer me! is our counterbalnace her for roasting our coaches alive!!

On Pruchs:
I&#039;m willing to give the benefit of doubt to a guy who scored 30 goals as a rookie (yes with thanks to JJ); then lost his PP golden-goose spot to Shanny but still put up 22 the following year...last year was a bust a little due to injuries and his own lack of production..this year he could have sat and got fat but he didnt; kept himself in shape and in great attitude...then scores 3 goals in what...5 games back? to me? the ups outweigh the downs a lot of people with similar or even worse resumes get a pass..I&#039;m giving the kid one..he should be on top two lines until we get someone better

On Ottawa:
we think Sather is in la-la land? What on earth kept that team, and Murray, from getting a frickin goalie??? San Jose, Minnesota and Anahiem were two and three deep for like two years while these idiots signed Vermette and Fisher and the rest...could have got Brzgelov or whatever his name is, Toskala, Roloson, Fernandez....unbelievable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ob Brooksie:<br />
He is a muck-raker and tends to go negative&#8230;sometimes you just have to admit that you need people like that for the counter-balance of a very apathetic ( hockey-wise) NY media..just like Beer me! is our counterbalnace her for roasting our coaches alive!!</p>
<p>On Pruchs:<br />
I&#8217;m willing to give the benefit of doubt to a guy who scored 30 goals as a rookie (yes with thanks to JJ); then lost his PP golden-goose spot to Shanny but still put up 22 the following year&#8230;last year was a bust a little due to injuries and his own lack of production..this year he could have sat and got fat but he didnt; kept himself in shape and in great attitude&#8230;then scores 3 goals in what&#8230;5 games back? to me? the ups outweigh the downs a lot of people with similar or even worse resumes get a pass..I&#8217;m giving the kid one..he should be on top two lines until we get someone better</p>
<p>On Ottawa:<br />
we think Sather is in la-la land? What on earth kept that team, and Murray, from getting a frickin goalie??? San Jose, Minnesota and Anahiem were two and three deep for like two years while these idiots signed Vermette and Fisher and the rest&#8230;could have got Brzgelov or whatever his name is, Toskala, Roloson, Fernandez&#8230;.unbelievable</p>
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		<title>By: Beer Me!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beer Me!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know if that was clear.  Buf was an example, but the post was about Ott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if that was clear.  Buf was an example, but the post was about Ott.</p>
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		<title>By: Beer Me!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beer Me!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaspar man..that&#039;s just the lay of the land right now in the NHL.  Not for all though. Ruff can do whatever he wants up there b/c he&#039;s so tight with the GM.  Not too unlike our situation here.

Melnyk is a different kind of owner too, very hands on.  He doesn&#039;t want to look like a fool either.  

Funny up there though, that they tried to pin their troubles on emery and the team and media ran him out of town.  Now, they&#039;re the same, if not worse without him.

They need to trade one of those 3, get some goaltending and go from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaspar man..that&#8217;s just the lay of the land right now in the NHL.  Not for all though. Ruff can do whatever he wants up there b/c he&#8217;s so tight with the GM.  Not too unlike our situation here.</p>
<p>Melnyk is a different kind of owner too, very hands on.  He doesn&#8217;t want to look like a fool either.  </p>
<p>Funny up there though, that they tried to pin their troubles on emery and the team and media ran him out of town.  Now, they&#8217;re the same, if not worse without him.</p>
<p>They need to trade one of those 3, get some goaltending and go from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Beer Me!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beer Me!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brooks is one step better than Eklund.  His articles are normally all questions, no answers, no solutions.  The Post is a tabloid.  &quot;All is well...sam&quot;  You don&#039;t read this blog enough.  

We&#039;ll just have to agree to disagree on Prucha.  I&#039;m not really even interested in debating a player based on a weeks worth of games.  Any player that sits out that long is going to come out of the gates hard &amp; full of piss n vinegar.  

Prucha&#039;s played great since he&#039;s been back in the lineup, no one can argue that.  And he&#039;s seem to have found a nice spot with Dru/Dawes.  But the same that goes for voros, goes for all really...bring it every night (sustainability).

No, dru hasn&#039;t sustained anything since he&#039;s been a ranger, neither has gomer, neither has redden or rozy.  Neither has cally, dawes, sjo, DUBI, OR Hank.  A nyr coach (any of them) can&#039;t sit everyone, and you can&#039;t make slats look like a fool for signing big/stupid contracts either.

The first 8 games he played this season he had zero points, was -1, and a ghost some nights while the team was on the hottest start in decades.  So if we&#039;re going to pick a handful of games to judge a player on, you pick the current, I&#039;ll pick those.  He was ineffective, so he sat.  Perhaps coulda cracked the lineup before the last 4 or so games, and probably would have if not for the f&#039;n logjam of 2nd/3rd line fwds.

It&#039;s just not enough games for me to change my mind on a player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brooks is one step better than Eklund.  His articles are normally all questions, no answers, no solutions.  The Post is a tabloid.  &#8220;All is well&#8230;sam&#8221;  You don&#8217;t read this blog enough.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll just have to agree to disagree on Prucha.  I&#8217;m not really even interested in debating a player based on a weeks worth of games.  Any player that sits out that long is going to come out of the gates hard &#038; full of piss n vinegar.  </p>
<p>Prucha&#8217;s played great since he&#8217;s been back in the lineup, no one can argue that.  And he&#8217;s seem to have found a nice spot with Dru/Dawes.  But the same that goes for voros, goes for all really&#8230;bring it every night (sustainability).</p>
<p>No, dru hasn&#8217;t sustained anything since he&#8217;s been a ranger, neither has gomer, neither has redden or rozy.  Neither has cally, dawes, sjo, DUBI, OR Hank.  A nyr coach (any of them) can&#8217;t sit everyone, and you can&#8217;t make slats look like a fool for signing big/stupid contracts either.</p>
<p>The first 8 games he played this season he had zero points, was -1, and a ghost some nights while the team was on the hottest start in decades.  So if we&#8217;re going to pick a handful of games to judge a player on, you pick the current, I&#8217;ll pick those.  He was ineffective, so he sat.  Perhaps coulda cracked the lineup before the last 4 or so games, and probably would have if not for the f&#8217;n logjam of 2nd/3rd line fwds.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not enough games for me to change my mind on a player.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaspar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaspar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig Hartsburg called out Spezza and Alfredsson for give-aways that led to a loss last night; blaming them specifically...Canadian media all over it this morning...they said its his last salvo before getting fired...

Amazing..if star players screw up and you say that they did its the end of you...

I magine Renney calling out Redden, Hank or Gomez/Drury ?

Imagine Tortarella &quot;not&quot; saying something??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig Hartsburg called out Spezza and Alfredsson for give-aways that led to a loss last night; blaming them specifically&#8230;Canadian media all over it this morning&#8230;they said its his last salvo before getting fired&#8230;</p>
<p>Amazing..if star players screw up and you say that they did its the end of you&#8230;</p>
<p>I magine Renney calling out Redden, Hank or Gomez/Drury ?</p>
<p>Imagine Tortarella &#8220;not&#8221; saying something??</p>
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