Comments on: Guest post: Rangers lack starpower http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/ News and insight about the New York Rangers Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:48:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: LI Joe http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124970 LI Joe Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:24:54 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124970 bernie you have heard of the salary cap i hope bernie you have heard of the salary cap i hope

]]> By: Bernie http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124962 Bernie Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:30:48 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124962 Kovalchuk Gaborik Two star game breakers. Go to guys. Go get 'em Glen! Kovalchuk
Gaborik

Two star game breakers. Go to guys. Go get ‘em Glen!

]]> By: LI Joe http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124940 LI Joe Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:48:36 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124940 prucha i'm not quite that old but at least 1/2 of those 68 yrs was due to different factors than the rangers going for faded stars. there was no free agency, no draft until mid 60's, mtl and tor had 1st dibs on players in their area. DM - richter had more than 94' look at int'l play. look at 97 playoffs. UES Blue - jj wanted 3 yrs he would never have signed for 1 cwg - the last thing this team needs is avery. read about all the problems he causes - for his own team. just do some internet searches prucha i’m not quite that old but at least 1/2 of those 68 yrs was due to different factors than the rangers going for faded stars. there was no free agency, no draft until mid 60’s, mtl and tor had 1st dibs on players in their area.

DM – richter had more than 94’ look at int’l play. look at 97 playoffs.

UES Blue – jj wanted 3 yrs he would never have signed for 1

cwg – the last thing this team needs is avery. read about all the problems he causes – for his own team. just do some internet searches

]]> By: Robstones http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124915 Robstones Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:29:34 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124915 Naslund Drury Zherdev? they're not in the same category as Kessel? Savard? Semin? Carter? Richards? I'm sorry, when Naslund was in Vancouver... I would consider him as big a star as anyone... Drury is very well known around the league and Zherdev has more raw talent then just about any of those guys on the list keith gave with few exceptions... No one's A.O.... Just because our guys are under preforming doesn't mean that they're not capable. Is Kovelov not a star because he's under preforming this season? Naslund Drury Zherdev? they’re not in the same category as Kessel? Savard? Semin? Carter? Richards? I’m sorry, when Naslund was in Vancouver… I would consider him as big a star as anyone… Drury is very well known around the league and Zherdev has more raw talent then just about any of those guys on the list keith gave with few exceptions… No one’s A.O….

Just because our guys are under preforming doesn’t mean that they’re not capable. Is Kovelov not a star because he’s under preforming this season?

]]> By: Ryan McFadden http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124904 Ryan McFadden Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:10:00 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124904 keith - your right the Rangers don't have a player who right now is in the same league as the guys you mentioned. Their lack of a pure scorer is going to keep them from advancing past the first round of the playoffs in my opinion. if you look at their farm system, there really isn't a forward right now that stands out and make you think wow, this kid is going to be a fantastic player. sather made a huge mistake this summer, he locked up so much cap space during a summer with a relatively weak free agent class. Rangers fans, check out my blog www.themanicranger.blogspot.com keith – your right the Rangers don’t have a player who right now is in the same league as the guys you mentioned. Their lack of a pure scorer is going to keep them from advancing past the first round of the playoffs in my opinion. if you look at their farm system, there really isn’t a forward right now that stands out and make you think wow, this kid is going to be a fantastic player. sather made a huge mistake this summer, he locked up so much cap space during a summer with a relatively weak free agent class.

Rangers fans, check out my blog

http://www.themanicranger.blogspot.com

]]> By: Prucha25 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124900 Prucha25 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:02:42 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124900 The team always had stars that never produced here. BillD hit the nail on the head. Where did having all the big-name talent get us? ANSWER: One cup in 68 years. The team always had stars that never produced here. BillD hit the nail on the head.

Where did having all the big-name talent get us?

ANSWER: One cup in 68 years.

]]> By: Keith http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124879 Keith Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:12:15 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124879 Look at the top teams: Bruins: Kessel, Savard, Chara, Lucic Caps: OV, Semin, Green Wings: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom Sharks: Thornton, Cheechoo Flyers: Carter, Richards That's without even mentioning the Pens...you need stars to win in this league. Doesn't matter whether you draft or trade for them. Rangers don't have anyone on their roster or in their system that are in the same class as the above guys. Look at the top teams:

Bruins: Kessel, Savard, Chara, Lucic
Caps: OV, Semin, Green
Wings: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom
Sharks: Thornton, Cheechoo
Flyers: Carter, Richards

That’s without even mentioning the Pens…you need stars to win in this league. Doesn’t matter whether you draft or trade for them. Rangers don’t have anyone on their roster or in their system that are in the same class as the above guys.

]]> By: Robstones http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124835 Robstones Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:54:49 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124835 A-1) Only to an extent. I don't think the players that deserve the most ice time get it on a consistent basis to allow them to become the next broadway star. The inconsistent play is what it is. It's team wide with few exceptions... They ARE getting back to the style they were playing at the start of the season tho, and I like that. They need to be a more puck possessive team and spend less time messing with the puck in their own zone... Goals happen when you're hungry to score. Focus on getting the puck in the net as opposed to keeping it out of our own. Should be out shooting the other team on a nightly basis and at the beginning of the season they did that... Success on the PP will happen naturally because of that. A-2) Offensively, Zherdev can and has been that guy. When the score became 4-2 last night I said out loud, come on Zherdev... my eyes were on him and they should've been... a key face off win... Zherdev got it down low, found a little room and made a BRILLIANT pass to Roszival... The kid is an allstar and if he's treated as one... if Renney made him feel like this teams go to guy, I fully believe he'd rise to the challenge. Defensively, Staal is the best player we have. Just like Zherdev if he was made to feel that way he can and has kept the best players in the league at bay. (last night he got beat pretty badly, but...) I think next year (or end of this year) he's going to show us that he can be a little more physical force out there... as well as an offensive threat especially on the 4 on 4 A-3) They're some where in between. They're not a legit contender because I think they need to replace a guy like Kalinin with an upgrade... Even if that upgrade were Potter... I don't know because he hasn't spent enough time up here to say for sure, but... Trade deadline is coming.... Only a few pieces off from truly being a legit playoff team anyway... Certainly not a let down because they weren't suppose to go anywhere with the loss of the Star you're talking about Jagr (and Shanny for that matter)... A-1) Only to an extent. I don’t think the players that deserve the most ice time get it on a consistent basis to allow them to become the next broadway star. The inconsistent play is what it is. It’s team wide with few exceptions… They ARE getting back to the style they were playing at the start of the season tho, and I like that. They need to be a more puck possessive team and spend less time messing with the puck in their own zone… Goals happen when you’re hungry to score. Focus on getting the puck in the net as opposed to keeping it out of our own. Should be out shooting the other team on a nightly basis and at the beginning of the season they did that… Success on the PP will happen naturally because of that.

A-2) Offensively, Zherdev can and has been that guy. When the score became 4-2 last night I said out loud, come on Zherdev… my eyes were on him and they should’ve been… a key face off win… Zherdev got it down low, found a little room and made a BRILLIANT pass to Roszival… The kid is an allstar and if he’s treated as one… if Renney made him feel like this teams go to guy, I fully believe he’d rise to the challenge.

Defensively, Staal is the best player we have. Just like Zherdev if he was made to feel that way he can and has kept the best players in the league at bay. (last night he got beat pretty badly, but…) I think next year (or end of this year) he’s going to show us that he can be a little more physical force out there… as well as an offensive threat especially on the 4 on 4

A-3) They’re some where in between. They’re not a legit contender because I think they need to replace a guy like Kalinin with an upgrade… Even if that upgrade were Potter… I don’t know because he hasn’t spent enough time up here to say for sure, but… Trade deadline is coming…. Only a few pieces off from truly being a legit playoff team anyway…

Certainly not a let down because they weren’t suppose to go anywhere with the loss of the Star you’re talking about Jagr (and Shanny for that matter)...

]]> By: Prucha25 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124826 Prucha25 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:40:44 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124826 Jeez,if this observation is correct then why don't they just tank this year to draft a stud in the next draft? Oh, wait, this is the Rangers. That means we'd probably pick a dud. Or Renney wouldn't think he'd be "ready" and he'd rot in the minors. If we drafted Ovechkin, he'd still be in Hartford for crissakes. The real problem with this team is the coach can't get the best potential out of these guys. He has them hanging back and they have no killer instinct. Jeez,if this observation is correct then why don’t they just tank this year to draft a stud in the next draft? Oh, wait, this is the Rangers. That means we’d probably pick a dud. Or Renney wouldn’t think he’d be “ready” and he’d rot in the minors. If we drafted Ovechkin, he’d still be in Hartford for crissakes.

The real problem with this team is the coach can’t get the best potential out of these guys. He has them hanging back and they have no killer instinct.

]]> By: BillD http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2009/01/08/guest-post-rangers-lack-starpower/comment-page-1/#comment-124825 BillD Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:39:46 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2472#comment-124825 Why do the Rangers need "star power"? What has all this "star power" the past couple of decades or so lead to?? One cup in 68 years! Perhaps "star power" is not the answer?? Maybe it's high time this organization shed it's "big city", "glamour" marquee?? I mean, what has it delivered since 1941? Maybe this team finally needs to promote from within and suffer the growing pains until it clicks? I mean, can it be any worse then watching overpriced players fail? No, it would be tolerable at least knowing there might be a bright future. Promote from within, go with lunch pail, blue collar players, fill in with a "star" if you feel the need and roll the dice. At least it will be exciting and worth watching. I'd rather watch a bunch of kids and hard workers compete every night rather then a bunch of over-priced hacks fail at every turn. Remember the Rangers of the late 70's? Young, exciting, hard working and fun? A team the city fell in love with. A team that rewarded the city with a trip to the finals in 1979? I'd like to see that again. And, there was no real "star" power on those teams. Unless you count a past his prime Esposito and the oft-injured Swedes. No to star power as far as I'm concerned. Enough is enough! Why do the Rangers need “star power”? What has all this “star power” the past couple of decades or so lead to?? One cup in 68 years! Perhaps “star power” is not the answer?? Maybe it’s high time this organization shed it’s “big city”, “glamour” marquee?? I mean, what has it delivered since 1941? Maybe this team finally needs to promote from within and suffer the growing pains until it clicks? I mean, can it be any worse then watching overpriced players fail? No, it would be tolerable at least knowing there might be a bright future. Promote from within, go with lunch pail, blue collar players, fill in with a “star” if you feel the need and roll the dice. At least it will be exciting and worth watching. I’d rather watch a bunch of kids and hard workers compete every night rather then a bunch of over-priced hacks fail at every turn. Remember the Rangers of the late 70’s? Young, exciting, hard working and fun? A team the city fell in love with. A team that rewarded the city with a trip to the finals in 1979? I’d like to see that again. And, there was no real “star” power on those teams. Unless you count a past his prime Esposito and the oft-injured Swedes. No to star power as far as I’m concerned. Enough is enough!

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