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In search of the perfect road game…at home (Update)

December
23

The ever-perceptive Lynn Zinser of the Times noted this ominous sign on one of the Garden scoreboards hours before the opening faceoff:

Capitals 5, Rangers 3

Do they know something we don’t? Probably not. But it does serve as a fitting segue into one of my new working theories, that the Rangers are better equipped to play sound, defensive hockey on the road than at home.

The numbers don’t necessarily back my theory up when you consider that two of the team’s worst defensive games were in New Jersey and in Montreal. But that doesn’t change the fact that the Rangers usually—and especially last week out West—are usually content to keep the game simple in opposing buildings. In hockey, they call this playing a “good road game,” which sources tell me, you can only play on the road.

But if the Rangers are going to be a dangerous team over the balance of the season, they need to eliminate some of the disjointed, disconnected play that has crept into their game in lots of buildings, but most noticeably at the Garden.

“It’s not about putting on a show or doing extraordinary things,” Tom Renney said “It is about detail and being sound with and without the puck and managing our game. Our tendency has been we’ve been able to do that better on road. But it doesn’t mean we can’t get it back and place the priorities where they belong.”

Now, a related aside here: a lot of fans and even members of the media will say that the Rangers emphasis on defensive hockey—in which they’re happy to win games 2-1—makes them exceptionally boring. By contrast, those same people will say that 8-5 loss at the Prudential Center a few weeks back was one of the most entertaining games of the year.

I say pick your poison. As much as I’m a believer that the game is at its most exciting when two teams are trading chances at opposite ends of the rink—it actually doesn’t even matter if they score—I’m also of the belief that a team playing meaningful games in late wing and early spring is far more entertaining than one that already is out of the playoff picture.

And that’s the dilemna for the Rangers: if they every really try to open it up, they’re doomed. As this team is currently constructed, it doen’t have the personnel to regularly beat teams 6-5, and as Henrik Lundqvist has shown the past few weeks, even he is vulnerable if left to fend for himself.

There’s a middle ground in there somewhere, and it’s what the Rangers have been shooting for all season—games in which they shut down teams defensively and then create chances in transition. It sounds great in theory. The hard part has been actually making it happen.

Update, end of first period: So much for my theory, because the Rangers have been giving the puck away in every way imaginable and still have a 3-0 lead. It doesn’t hurt that Jose Theodore was apparently asleep for the first 10 minutes of the game, or that Washington is missing most of its other big guns. Either way, the score is at least a little deceptive.

This entry was posted on Tuesday, December 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm by Sam Weinman.
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201 Responses to “In search of the perfect road game…at home (Update)”

  1. somerset

    First?? nice !!!

  2. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!)

    “It’s not about putting on a show or doing extraordinary things,” Tom Renney said “It is about detail and being sound with and without the puck and managing our game. Our tendency has been we’ve been able to do that better on road. But it doesn’t mean we can’t get it back and place the priorities where they belong.”

    If anyone thought that what you’d see tonight is more of the same type of game we played in the third period against the Sharks this Quote above should put any of that hope to rest. Get ready for a snooze fest. We will win tonight only if Lundquist stands on his head and holds the Caps to one goal or less and we get to the shootout. That’s the plan for tonight folks. “coach” Renney at his best.

  3. somerset

    now that’s out of the way …... The Caps are missing too many players for this game. The Rangers need to CAPITALize and Win!! Go Rangers

  4. Septemous

    I like how the rangers are 11 games over 500 and we’re all (Me included) doom and glooming them.

    As a holiday bit of cheer I will say that it is nice to believe we should be contenders a mere 3 years after being the joke of the league (or is it 4 now? time marches on!)

  5. gozer

    um, who was entertained by the 8-5 loss at the Prudential center? That may have been the worst hockey game I’ve watched since the lockout.

  6. alex b (the poster formely known as czechthemout!!!!)

    Gozer-

    I was.Especially when they fought back to tie the game.I suppose you would rather have a 1-0 game with a total of 10 shots a game per team,a game played by 20 Blair Betts type players on each team with hands of stone and no physical play.A game coached by Tom Renney and his Renneyaide coaching “system”,a game played by two teams with fourth line players only who could put an insomniac to sleep.I suppose that type of game would be entertaining to you, EH?

  7. CCCP

    Do we have to watch the same thing over and over and over again? It seems like every Rangers pregame MSG is showing the Christmas Tree skate. Is anybody else annoyed as much or is it just me?

    Mark Teixeira is a Yankee… wow… and the party in Bronx continues!

  8. Rucchin

    Doesn’t matter the score if the Rangers win. They lost that 8-5 game so while it was fun, I would’ve rathered to have seen a 2-1 win or a 9-8 win. The Devils fans love their low-scoring team.

    http://www.nyhockeyrivalry.com

  9. graves9

    What a bleeping goal. Zherdev with a pass that would make Gretz and Adam Oates drool.

  10. Dave

    I’m doing an in game thread/thoughts for this game. Feel free to check it out.

    But wow, what a pass from Zherdev.

  11. graves9

    Teix is ridiculously overrated and overpaid Beltran’s contract looks more like a bargain every day. Brian Cashman makes Sather look good.

  12. graves9

    Why is Voros back on the top third line? Another terrible turnover this time by Naslund.

  13. Chris

    they better make this a 2-0 game and pray that it doesnt become a track meet with this team becasue semin ovechkin backstrom and nylander will make us pay

  14. Chris

    Rosival! wow

  15. Chris

    Callahan!!! i can do this all night

  16. Alex T

    WHAT THE HELL!?? Is this for real?

  17. graves9

    Thedore is awful. That Varliamov kid will be their starter by the end of the year. Cally is gonna score 20-25 goals this year. If Shanny would have come back Cally wouldn’t getting all this icetime.

  18. graves9

    Geez how many players are the Caps missing? Seems like 8 or 9 games are out.

  19. CCCP

    somebody plz pinch me… im not dreaming right?

  20. graves9

    guys I mean.

  21. ford

    I have Renney secretly mic’ed up tonight, and this is what he just told the team: “The early three-goal-lead at home is the most dangerous lead in hockey.”

  22. Chris

    im so happy that that Callahan is doing good again, remember two years ago when he came up and was awesome from march through the playoffs? he knows how to score he did it a bunch in Hartford

  23. Alex T

    great shift by fourth line

  24. Alex T

    KING HENRIK! What a save on Ovies one timer

  25. Chris

    good thing nothings changed with the power play

  26. Jen C.

    Hey, Sam, have you ever gotten to the bottom of the biggest issue facing this team?

    Why the heck is Chris Drury’s nickname “Raymond”?

  27. bob

    The Hyena is ruining Staal’s confidence by not putting him on the power play. Typical hyena behavior. Watch them blow this 3 goal lead and lose 5-3, cause of the hyena’s confidence in the 4th line, and the rest of the defense.

  28. Nasty 1

    What is that scratch off Lotto commercial with “Manny” trying to win the “Most Aired Commercial Ever in the History of Commercials” Award?

  29. Alamo

    bob, u have me in stitches … Keep up the hyena commentary… I’m in section 341 boys….market closes 1pm tomorrow… Holla!

  30. ford

    Did Trautwig actually just say that the next goal will determine which way the game will go??

    For chrissakes the Rangers are up at home 3-0 after 20 minutes! The idea that “if Washington gets the next goal, suddenly it’s a dogfight” tells you a lot about the mindset of this team and its broadcasters.

  31. CCCP

    lol Nasty 1…

    it was supposed to be this way: Dolan comes up to Sather and gives him the checkbook and says “MERRY CHRISTMAS GLEN”

  32. graves9

    Geez Dubi can’t even score on Theodore.

  33. graves9

    Nasty Giuseppe Franco won that award.

  34. Nasty 1

    LOL! Yeah, well “Manny” has got to be a close second!

  35. Phildill

    Reporting live from Virginia Beach and watching the Caps feed. Bitchin’ about bad ice. Yeah that’s the reason it’s nw 4-0. I hate watching these 2 homers. LET’S GO RANGERS!!!! I will be at the Garden on the 27th for a little revenge against the Devs.

  36. Alex T

    OMG CALLAHAN IS GOD!

  37. bob

    The hyena benches Zherdev lmao what a scumbag fire him. Staal needs to get pp time watch Orr and Kalinin get pp time instead.

  38. CCCP

    hey… at least renney is doing something different… keeping lines together for more than two shift at a time…

  39. graves9

    Nasty maybe third as the Shamwow guy has second place locked up.

  40. Alex T

    Voros i playing a decent game isn´t he? Keeping thing simple, not just… stupid.

  41. bob

    the hyena has Mara who won’t shoot on the pp over Staal lmao fire him.

  42. bob

    The hyena has his son matched up against Ovechkin he wants to blow this one.

  43. Spiderpig

    Dubinsky actually had facial hair during the intermission interview; it looks like it took him two weeks to get that! Maybe it’s until he scores. Great game so far, nothing else to say.

  44. CCCP

    i mean really… what is it going to take for renney to give Staal at least a full PP shift once in a while? y is it such an issue?

  45. bob

    Trade Gomez and Rozsival to Phoenix for Hanzal.

  46. bob

    Hyena Renney double shifting his son lmao hire Tortorella already.

  47. kern

    Bob
    Are we still going to lose this game? I love your optimism!

  48. Sally

    Mara’s cracking me up

  49. CCCP

    someone give bob something to chew on…

  50. doogie747

    alamo;
    bob, u have me in stitches … Keep up the hyena commentary… I’m in section 341 boys….market closes 1pm tomorrow… Holla!

    I tend to disagree…Bob, give it a rest…we are winning 4-0, and you are not that funny, nor hockey smart!

  51. Alex T

    Good hustle by the Dubi line again.

  52. graves9

    Ovechkin never stops competiting no matter the score. You have to respect that.

  53. Alamo

    fire the hyena!

  54. Alamo

    The hyena can ruin a game no matter what the score

  55. bob

    The hyena telling the team to stop trying to score. Release Kalinin and Rozsival.

  56. graves9

    Ovechkin putting on a show. Last 5 minutes has been ugly.

  57. doogie747

    is bob and alamo the same lame person?

  58. Alamo

    Fire renney then shut down blueshirtbulletin… Perfect world

  59. Alamo

    No, but I hate the hyena too

  60. Alex T

    You gotta keep playing hard, this Caps team is a real contender…

  61. bob

    the hyena telling the dmen to ignore Ovechkin fire him!

  62. Alamo

    Fire the hyena, hire bob… Jus sayin’

  63. ChrisS

    Rozsival is having a really solid game not even including the goal. He’s playing great defense and taking plenty of shots on the powerplay.

  64. Alex

    ChrisS.

    Agree with you. Except for the soft clear before caps goal, real solid, seems to be in a better state of confidence. Oh, and he’s playing with Staal.

  65. Alamo

    If they fire Renney tonight I’ll never post again

  66. Alex

    Renney is fired. New coach is Greased-up-deaf-guy. What a turn of events.

  67. ford

    Can I get a general consensus that Lundqvist has kept this from being at best a 4-3 game? The scoring chances by the Caps have been ridiculously juicy.

  68. graves9

    Girardi imo having a very solid game tonight too. Question is what the hell has happened to his offense? It seems to have dried up(1 point in his last 13 games)

  69. graves9

    Agreed Ford Ovie is flying.

  70. ChrisS

    Alex,
    I didn’t realize that was rozsival that had that weak clear..
    I don’t think that he was trying to clear it as much as just getting out of the slot- surely that was a fluke goal on a very low percentage shooting area.

  71. Alex

    ford-

    I think your right to some extent, but rangers have had a pretty good game offensively too, the difference is obviously the goaltending. Key players are playing decent too i.e. Dru, Rosie, Korpi, Staal and that leads to snipers scoring.

  72. Alex

    Chris-

    Your right, but he was pressured and should have cleared for a line change. Details that 9/10 doesnt result in a goal, but still. Even so, i think this is rosies best game at home this far.

  73. samjoe

    anyone know what happened to the laugh and clap triva challenge between all of the goofballs?

  74. ChrisS

    spook tooooooo soon.

  75. ChrisS

    did i speak spook? obviously i meant spoke.

  76. graves9

    ruh-oh

  77. Alex

    Geez, i thought hank just missed it, no one called the redirection on the caps coverage….

  78. Cliff

    Oh where, oh where has Voros gone??

  79. Alex

    Back to fourth grade?

  80. Alamo

    Rangers showing typical lax defense

  81. Nasty 1

    If the Caps score here then I think they will tie this game. If not, then we will win.

  82. Alamo

    Fire the hyena! Defense typically porous.

  83. graves9

    Rangers are losing this one.

  84. Chris F.

    Maybe they should practice the PP more than 15 minutes. Not like it would have salted this one away or anything.

    UGH. FIRE PEARN.

  85. graves9

    For the love of God!

  86. ford

    Just not a well-schooled unit. Good teams that take a 4-0 lead at home after 25 minutes simply do not experience what the Rangers are experiencing tonight.

    Fear, fear, fear. I can feel it in my TV room. Nauseating.

  87. Pavel

    COME ON

  88. CCCP

    NO COMMENT!

  89. graves9

    Drury is a horror show in his end. Ovechkin is the best and most dominant player in sports.

  90. Pavel

    You have Theodore in the goddamn net for f’s sake… goddammit this team blows goats.

  91. Brian

    it really never fails with them.

  92. kern

    nobody should ever question Bob ever again

  93. wd40

    ok, apologists, let’s hear how this has notbing to do with coaching.

  94. Chris F.

    Where’s funnyman Mara now? AO is insane. One man wrecking crew.

  95. Phildill

    This is just absurd….

    Let’s step on their throat with a 4-1 lead.

  96. wd40

    4-1?? It was 4-0 bro

  97. CCCP

    if the entire caps team was injured and put only Ovechkin on ice rangers still wouldn’t be able to beat them…

  98. graves9

    Rangers reaching using stickchecks instead of competiting.

  99. Phildill

    wd40…...oops it was 4-0

    4-1 coming into the last stanza thoigh.

    Either way, inexcusable!!

  100. Sally

    Barf.

  101. CCCP

    c’mon kids… what u panicking about? the game plan is to take every game into the shootout and then win it… so everything is going according to the game plan!

  102. Alex

    How much do you miss Beukeboom/Leetch? I mean, this is a joke. A. Bad. Joke,

  103. graves9

    Rangers will get an undeserved win in the shootout.

  104. Nasty 1

    Ovechkin in OT?

  105. Mark

    I can’t even imagine what the D would look like without Staal.

  106. CCCP

    Nasty 1 December 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Ovechkin in OT?
    ———-

    wouldnt that be a perfect Christmas story?

  107. graves9

    Game over. They didn’t even deserve the point they got.

  108. CCCP

    LOL

  109. kern

    Fire Renney

  110. Audioserf

    Fire Tom Renney.

    Has ANY Rangers team ever been as terrible at winning with big leads as the one he’s coached?

    I could vomit right now.

    Fucking disgraceful.

  111. wd40

    this is tom renney’s wet dream—- “Each team played hard, has good character people, so let’s not beat them in reg, let’s send it to OT/SO”

    This bunch goes nowhere until this stiff is scouting in British Columbia 12 months a year

  112. Phildill

    Disgusted!

    Meltdown at the Garden.

    Just like in Montreal last year.

  113. rudy

    this team is a joke. until they get some read defensemen and leaders they will remain an average team.

  114. ford

    The definitive game of the Renney era. What a repulsive display.

  115. bob

    Renney and his system = shit

  116. CCCP

    WHAT AN EMBARRASSING TEAM

  117. Sid_Rissi

    I would love to hear Renney’s presser.
    Reporter: What went wrong?
    Renney: They got some lucky bounces.
    Reporter: The defense was porous according to the capitals’s annoucers.
    Renney: we have to do a better job than that in our end zone.
    And the beat goes on …

  118. kern

    Fire Tom

  119. Sid_Rissi

    end zone=own zone.
    I am in a footbal state of mind.

  120. bob

    watch the spineless reporters like Weinman now act as if nothing happened and not ask anything important.

  121. Kirill

    Bring Tortorella in! This is a team of bums! Captain crappy pants, and Gomez suck at hockey. Drury should have stayed at little league where he had a lot of success!

  122. ChrisS

    blow the god damn team up and get rid of everyone. Drury, Gomez, Redden, Rozsival.

  123. wd40

    spin this one, renny you fraud, you used car salesman

  124. CCCP

    kids in Russia with tree sticks play better hockey than Rangers

  125. Mark

    Don’t worry its not like Renney is going to call out anyone because that is not his “style”. Dont worry d-men because there is only 6 of you here so you have nothing to worry about.

  126. kern

    Clearly the case that the coaching staff really believed that they had the game won. UNACCEPTABLE.

  127. Duker

    Would have liked to see the Rangers lose it in regulation. They don’t deserve ANY points.

  128. ford

    Embarrassing! Puking up leads like this is now not an anomaly but the norm. Fire the weak and frightened man behind the bench.

  129. bob

    LMAO at fake bob. You are such an idiot, Rangers blew not just a 3 goal lead, but a 4 goal lead. I laugh at how dumb you are. I laugh last.

  130. Sid_Rissi

    How do you allow so many breakways with such a big lead? and Renney’s system is supposed to be defense first. Some kind of defense this is.
    He is riding Hank’s good play and he thinks it’s the system and Sather is buying it and the reporters are drinking the kool aid.
    spineless all the way around.

  131. teetime

    This is vintage Rangers ,, just when you think they are on roll they kick you in the NUTS .

    Tonight was the renney reversal get the lead .. go to OT and lose.
    Can’t blame Tom , this team doesn’t hit and doesn’t have a leader.
    Sather must be proud!!

  132. stuart

    one of the worst losses in a while.

    sjustrom with a A 1 giveaway led to 1 goal.

    Dawes with a brain cramp giveaway and that is 2 goals.

    Renny should just play staal whenever Ovechkin is on the ice.

    They are little and soft not a good combo..

    that was a free 2 points they gave away, they GAVE IT AWAY…..

    DISGRACE.

  133. teetime

    Blow a 4 5 goal lead once every six years ,20 years, OK ,

    but this is an annual event with this staff and team
    Mr. Dolan should clean the entire organization from Gm,scouts, coaches players and get real.
    The NHl must be laughing at NYR,

    but we’re still in first place

  134. Sid_Rissi

    I would love to read a story in the papers tomorrow, is it time for Rennet to go? this team is going to win maybe one series in the playoffs, MAYBE and they are done.
    they got Z and Hank and that’s it, without them they are in the cellar.

  135. kc

    Dawes makes that bonehead play coming out of his own zone all the time—he is horrible. Isn’t Drury supposed to be at least good defensively when he’s not scoring?

  136. onecupin 67years

    yeah WE SUCK

  137. Audioserf

    Tom Renney plays frightened, pussy hockey.

    They got their goals, he told them to sit on the lead and play it safe.

    And look where it got them.

  138. CCCP

    Ovechkin looks like the ant “Z” from 1998 cartoon “ANTZ”

    ALEKSANDR OVECHKIN IS THE BEST ATHLETE IN THE WORLD!

    Cindy Blowsme not even good enough to be Ovechkins butler…

  139. graves9

    Stupid penalties, soft plays, brain dead plays lazy giveaways and they were lead by their captain. I can’t wait til Drury spews his cliches. Lol Sam and Joe looking for postives. Hey Tom stick with the same 6 dmen please they’re doing wonderfully.

  140. All Hail King Henrik

    This game was lost at the 0 minute mark of the 3rd period, by Tom Renney. By Renney putting out the 2nd PP unit, he allowed Washington to take momentum of the game.

    Why would you not start the Gomez unit on the PP; ESPECIALLY when fresh after a 17 minute rest. That decision is simply indefensible and it is that decision that lost this game.

    As soon as Rozi took that penalty in the offensive zone, I knew they were going to score, and knew that the game was going to be lost. Anyone who follows this team could see this coming a mile away.

    Renney’s decision making lost the game, plain and simple. Had he started the 1st PP unit, they could’ve potentially ended the game at 5-1 or at the very least maintained momentum with some scoring chances. What does Renney do though? Starts the Drury unit who is unable to generate anything and hands the momentum right back to Washington.

    Nice job, Tom. Merry fucking Christmas.

  141. bob

    Typical Hyena system

    How many 3 goal, 4 goal, 5 goal leads is this team gonna blow before this brain trust finally gets fired ?

    Nittymaki let in 1 goal against this team. What did Lundqvist do ? He lets in 3 soft goals, and blows this game for the Rangers along with their trusty defense.

    This is everyone’s fault, fire the Hyena, he’s ruining Hank’s confidence, and Staal’s, and the little black guy who cant score a goal anymore, thanks to the Hyena.

  142. MikeA

    Nothing ever comes easy for the Rangers. This was f%cking ridiculous. This is the kind of game that gets people fired. All of the players should be out tomorrow skating suicides aka Herbies (for Herb Brooks) for two hours straight. I’d make them skate on Christmas too if I could.

  143. graves9

    Larry Brooks is the only reporter with guts to ask tough questions. Watch Msgulag skip over his questions on the post game.

  144. FIRE RENNEY

    This team has no balls. None. Gets a lead, and then becomes so scared of losing it that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Where is the leadership?? Renney needs to go.

  145. graves9

    Gomez spewing cliches now. It’s not over til it’s over.

  146. Rob E.

    wow. i think i just threw up in my mouth a little.

    This team is excellent at losing creatively.

  147. Sally

    I’m tired of it! Puke! Blah! All the time, puke!

  148. All Hail King Henrik

    By the way, Dawes sucks. I’ve said it since the beginning of the season, and even before the season started when people were saying he was going to score 30. L-O-L. He is too small, can’t skate and his offensive ability is greatly exaggerated and over-rated. Give me Prucha over Dawes any day of the week.

  149. bob

    If not for those 2 wins against backup goalies in the West we would be on 4 game losing streak.

  150. bob

    Dawes had 2 assists and at least 2 great hits. Gomez turns the puck over every shift.

  151. graves9

    Drury 23 or 24 teams in the league wishes they had our wins and points’’ shutup Chrissy!

  152. All Hail King Henrik

    Funny how Drury says “well-coached” Devils team. A little insidious comment directed at Tom, perhaps? Even Drury knows he shouldn’t have been out there to start the PP.

  153. CCCP

    i agree with Drury… u got to put this game in the garbage… and while u at it put yourself in the same garbage bin…

  154. bob

    Dubinsky’s confidence is shot, Sather must trade him now before its too late.

    Fire the Hyena. Fire half the fans on this blog also.

  155. All Hail King Henrik

    2 great hits by Dawes? I must’ve blinked… All I see when he plays is that he’s too slow to get to loose pucks, and too small to battle for them when he does occasionally get to one. He gets knocked off the puck ALL THE TIME. Awesome decision to go cross-ice on the 4th goal, too. Nice hockey-smarts, Nigel.

  156. kc

    After Dawes makes a mistake, he tries to make a hit his next shift, but since he’s 5’5”, he bounces off the guy he hits and takes himself out of position. It doesn’t matter if he hits anyone.

  157. bob

    Trade Drury, Prucha, Kalinin, Rozsival, and a 1st round pick for Gaborik, and Clutterbuck.

  158. Ralph

    Pure Renney ! o.k. boys we’re up 4 – 0 == lets get back on our heels & wait for them to make plays

  159. bob

    And trade Dubinsky for Burns.

  160. onecupin67years

    Hey if you think we feel bad ,

    poor Sam had to rewrite his entire story for Wednesday’s
    JNews OH the agony of Defeat

  161. ford

    It’s Prucha’s fault.

  162. onecupin67years

    The lead is sloooowly disappearing

  163. MikeA

    Bring in Tom Coughlin for a day to verbally abuse these men.

  164. onecupin67years

    first place in 08
    last place in 09

    Tom coaches like George Bush leads

  165. Audioserf

    Scott Gomez should be prohibited from speaking to the press, because you don’t learn anything you couldn’t learn from watching any of his other post-game interviews following a loss this season. Seriously, he just pumps out talking points and grins.

    Put his “A” on Paul Mara.

  166. Leetch is the man

    ive always said AO is better than Crosby if you diasgree your a fukin moron. he takes over the game more than Crosby ever does. Crosby doesnt dominate us like AO does to everyone. What other time have you seen Lundy come out of his jock on a breakaway. Hes sik and i would give up anyone on the team from him except lundqvist.

  167. onecupin67years

    lets have a pool with the date Renney gets fired.
    I say 1/20/09

  168. ford

    Tom Renney—- noted ‘round the world for his “Defense First” scheme—- cannot find a way to tuck in a 4-0 lead against a very depleted Caps team.

    WHAT ELSE DO HIS DEFENDERS NEED TO SEE??

  169. onecupin67years

    I’d given hank and my wife for AO

  170. Nasty 1

    I want to drive a metal rod through Trautwigs heart! I hate him more than anyone else in the world!

  171. onecupin67years

    with this team no lead is really safe… they lack the killer instinct, they hit only after AO is running everybody on the ice then it was too late

  172. onecupin67years

    nasty thats a riot

  173. MikeA

    I gotta say this; I consider myself a Rangers fan first and foremost before ANY other NY area team. I have the most passion for them, all my friends and coworkers know that they are MY team. However, THIS BLEEPING GAME TONIGHT HAS TAKEN SOME OF THE GIANTS/HOLIDAY SEASON VIBE OUT OF MY SOUL. Freaking garbage man. It’s days like this that I wish the Rangers had a ruthless un-PC owner who would bury their players and kick someones teeth in.

  174. wd40

    Why is it that no Renny droolers are ever around post game to discuss? I know some of them will claim thet were at the game, but gimme a break.

    This was an effing disgrace. a four goal lead at home with less than half a game to play against an injury-riddled team with a pathetic goalie…..and this Ranger team finds a way to blow the two points.

    how can anyone say we have the right coach?? 4 goals at home, and it isn’t enough???

  175. acdaviddc

    HOW MUCH LONGER FOR THIS COACH AND HIS GET A GOAL AND HOPE HANK CAN HOLD ON? HE SITS ON EVERY LEAD HE’S VERE HAD.
    ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS A NEW HEAD COACH…..
    AND A LUNDQVIST JERSEY

  176. acdaviddc

    GETTING A POINT IN THIS GAME IS A MIRICAL IN ITS SELF.

    FIRE RENNEY—

  177. onecupin67years

    They were lucky to have a 3 goal lead in the first, Theodore sucked, then they were outplayed and out coached by a better team, so lets not fool ourselves , if Theodore played well in the 1st this is a 4-1 , 4-2 game caps.

  178. Gresch

    The wife is in the hospital, so I’ve been distracted over the last ten days but Jesus Christ what was that tonite???

    I want to respect Renney’s defenders, I swear I do. But what is their argument after this one? A four goal lead at home with half a game to play, and they can’t get it done???

  179. CCCP

    Nasty 1 December 23rd, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    I want to drive a metal rod through Trautwigs heart! I hate him more than anyone else in the world!
    ————————
    thats a holiday spirit! lol

  180. Alex

    Weird fact:

    Rangers have started this season great statistically, by playing the worst hockey this franchise has seen. It’s really mind bottling, we should be dead last with ATL.

  181. onecupin67years

    Hey MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone !

    Don’t let these bums get you down

  182. acdaviddc

    CUT REDDEN,KALININ NOW, EAT THERE CONTRACT. TRADE 2 OF OUR 6 3RD LINE PLAYERS AND AND GET IN A D-MAN THAT HITS ANYBODY,BRING UP POTTER,,,,,,BUT…...
    YOU CAN NOT DO ANYTHING TILL RENNEY IS FIRED,CAUSE IF YOU DON’T THE SAME CRAP IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH HIS LETS PLAY DEFENCE SYSTEM WHEN THEY CAN’T

  183. CCCP

    wd40… for post game discussion from Renney supporters you’ll have to come back tomorrow during normal working hours lol
    They will tell you that this loss is not enough to fire the coach… and that we have no clue what is said behind closed locker room door… and the most important thing is to look at the BIG PICTURE!

    P.S. if u dont know what the big picture is with this team dont worry… because u r not alone.

  184. joefroh

    folks….this is horrible. the leaders of this team are letting the kids down and it is time to send a message. sit down redden sit down drury. sit down gomez. send a message. let everyone read the headlines. this is a team that needs some backbone. sutter wouldnt let his players get away with this country club atmosphere and renney does. he is a nice man. too nice. this team needs nastiness. the great one took over the game tonight and this was a depleted washington team . this is ugly and it chokes me

  185. Spiderpig

    So much for the good game. That was flippin’ ugly.

  186. acdaviddc

    NASTY.WHEN YOU DRIVE THAT METAL ROD THROUGH TRAUTWIGS HEART MAKE SURE RENNEY IS RIGHT BEHIND HIM.

  187. joefroh

    i just read MikeAv’s comments and he is sooo right. we need a coach or assistant coach who can kick some ass. put the kids on the power play. start to embaraass redden and the others publicly sorry folks. it’s time to take off the gloves and stop dancing around. this is enough it has to stop. we play the devils on saturday and we always play well against them and we will win against the islanders monday since they are basically a junior hockey league team at this moment…i can’t stand the lack of leadership needed to grab a win and take us for a ride. will one of these guys step up…..

  188. Kaspar

    I’m bound by my word to say nothing about the coach.

    I let these games speak for themselves…..

    Even though its not their fault its probably time to trade Gomer and Drury…two winners who are being paid way too much to be “the guys”....save $15M per year get youngins and pix…try and do something about Redden ( trade…buyout…AHL)...we might sneak into playoffs (again) but thats about it…Philly, Wash, Nj, Pitt, Bost, Mont all way better…

    Merry xmas all…if you get NHL network watch junior worlds this weekend

  189. Roc

    Someone need to loss there job!!

  190. All Hail King Henrik

    Alex,

    The stats aren’t that great anymore, even the defensive ones.

    2.65 Goals Against Per Game—9th (we were 1st for a good portion of the season)

    2.49 Goals For Per Game—25th

    PP 14.5%—27th

    PK 88.4%—2nd

    Shots Per Game: 32.3—4th (this stat is a joke, 90% of their shots are easy saves for the goaltenders)

    Shots Against Per Game: 29.9—Tied 15-17th

    Face Off %: 49.2—21st

    Only true positive stat I see is the PK.

  191. ChrisS

    Kasper,
    it’s disgusting we only are represented by TWO KIDS
    Not even our first rounder del zotto..
    To echo Kaspers message- Look out for Grachev on Russia and Kundratek on the Czech team.

  192. Dubi or not Dubi

    I mean dude, the caps had like 7 healthy players. Pretty sad. Glad they didn’t leave Henrik out to dry again… Oh wait… If Renney doesn’t go, then Pelino, the coach of the DEFENSE and Pearn, the coach of the “Power” Play both need to be out of here. I realize that Sather constructed a pretty average team, but don’t defensemen learn positioning at some point in their careers? They say defensemen take a long time to develop, so how come Staal is unquestionably the best defenseman on the team? That also raises the question as to why they didn’t even give Del Zotto a shot out of camp considering how much more impressive he was than anyone could have imagined.

    Something’s got to change. There have been way too many embarrassing losses this season. Why is this team better at coming back and winning than holding a lead? A good team can hold a lead, heck, a BAD team can hold a 4-0 lead. I’m just so sick of watching this boring team with the four best leaders being Naslund, Staal, Mara, and Dubinsky (I know, biased, but I still blame Renney for shattering his confidence). Naslund right now should be the captain, not Drury. Drury is a pathetic leader, will he ever put a team on his shoulders? NO. Gomez is a joke, there is a reason they didn’t give him any letters in NJ. A team with good leadership doesn’t lose games like this. Ugh, I’ll stop.

  193. Ralph

    as long as Renney is behind the bench, they will never bring up the young guys from the wolfpack

  194. graves9

    Ralph there’s really nothing there. Btw where is Beerme? He is Renney’s biggest backer say something man.

  195. Renney Suck Ass Club AllStars!

    Even we agree: Renney sucks

  196. wd40

    graves

    Forget Beer Me, he is a pathetic, dead-ender lost cause. I want to know if LI Joe is finally going to commit to the path of enlightenment!

  197. All Hail King Henrik

    It makes me feel a little better that Vancouver is losing 5-0 to San Jose with 19 minutes to go in the second period. I really hope they miss the playoffs and Mats’ return was for nothing…

  198. Blaze

    Fire Renney!!!! He has no clue whatsoever how to get the most out of his players. It all starts from the top & then starts to roll down the hill. Renney and staff need to be shown the exit. Someone with-in the organization needs to grow a pair. Renney clearly does not have the killer instinct. No accountability AT ALL.

    For heaven’s sake…even Lindy Ruff benched Vanek for almost the entire third period the other night.

  199. JACK

    Drury and Gomez do you hear these guys speak after the game? what a bunch of mumbleing losers. How coul either one possibly be a leader. Gomez is a back stabbing douche just ask his teamates. Renney is the worst a yes man of the highest order.

  200. Prucha25

    There was one great coach in this game tonight and he wasn’t behind our bench. Renney needs to get lost.

  201. Tucson Ken

    I’m yelling, screaming & cursing at the TV like a madman, yet our alleged Captain is sure this is not going to ruin his or anyone else’s X-Mas.
    Perhaps it should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    How many more meltdowns & lack of 60 minute efforts must we witness?
    Why don’t they keep playing & forechecking in the manner that gives them their success?

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