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If ever there was a time…

December
12

So it goes without saying that this should be the night that the Devils finally shake loose of the Rangers recent stranglehold over them.

The stars are aligned for New Jersey, right? The Devils have won eight of nine. The Rangers, despite their squeaker in Atlanta, are still struggling. All of it points to a potential new chapter in this rivalry. Then again, the Rangers have always said their meetings with the Devils are the games in which they’re most able to pay attention to detail, and given the team’s “newfound success in driving to the net”:http://www.lohud.com/article/20081212/SPORTS01/812120368/-1/SPORTS, this game could be coming at the right time.

I don’t know. What I do know is—wait for the cliche, here it comes— they play the games for a reason.
———-

Optional skate today at the Rock. My expectation is the lineup and the lines stay the same as Wednesday night, although Henrik Lundqvist will of course be back in net.

This entry was posted on Friday, December 12th, 2008 at 9:23 am by Sam Weinman.
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172 Responses to “If ever there was a time…”

  1. Pavel

    My prediction for tonight:

    We lose 5-1. Rolston with 2g, Kalinin a -3.

  2. Staal Wart

    My prediction for tonight:

    We win 5-1. Orr with a Hat trick and Redden the other 2.

  3. Patrick

    “Down the Road” I HATE that expression by Renney….Kalinin should NOT be on the ice and I hope Renney is Unemployed “Down the Road”!!!!!!!

  4. Staal Wart

    What do you guys think of Sjo on the Dubi line?
    I liked it.

  5. MikeA

    Nigel Dawes will continue his tormenting of NJ tonight. I expect Korpo to do something as he doesn’t wanna go back to HFD to make room for Sundin.

  6. MAKO

    My prediction for tonight Rangers win 3-2 regulation. Goals by Zherdev, Naslund, Girardi. Gomez with 2 assists.
    Drury -1, Kalinin -1. If that comes true Im sure to win the Mega Millions tonight :P

  7. MAKO

    Staal

    I thought they had some great jump and cycled the puck really well. It will be good to see them again tonight to see what else they can do.

  8. Beer Me!

    A look closer at those 8 wins(in the last 9).

    In those 8 wins, the njd have averaged 4.1 GF
    And have allowed 2.1 GA

    Very “un-devil” like wins.

    We really need Hank to be sharp tonight. As well as everyone else tightening up defensively.

  9. Phalanx

    “Staal Wart

    What do you guys think of Sjo on the Dubi line?
    I liked it.”
    _

    I liked it as well, another game or 2 and they might even be able to work out the kinks and get some flow going.

    ... wait …

    who am i kidding? ... renney would never let that happen

  10. bklynblue

    SAM and if they lose what’s the excuse? The NYR top to bottom can’t have it both ways, no one is accountable. The corporate culture needs an adjustment. There is no urgency, it’s like a retirement home. Let Drury & Gomez know they are going to get much more rope from the fans. It’s time for them to wake up or go somewhere else, and take Redden & Rozival with them.

  11. Beer Me!

    I like sjo and dubi. For the same reasons Mako stated. To add to it, sjo is in a spot now that he’s been fighting for, really for the last 4+ years. He wants to be more than a 4th line forchecker, who doesn’t? And he plays a very responsible game on top of getting in deep and forechecking. Hopefully that strength along the boards and in the corners will pay off.

  12. matty

    Staal – I’m looking foward to seeing Sjo with Dubi tonight. I didn’t get a chance to catch any of the last game besides the highlights. Sjo is a little too dynamic to be a fourth liner.

    It seems that no matter what, whenever these two teams play eachother, the Rangers seem to get their act together. Hank locks into these rivalries, and the team seems to play with more jump and tend to be more physical against the Devs, or any divisional team for that matter. Has Clemenson been starting most of the recent Devils games? My guess is that the Rangers will make him look like a Vezina finalist tonight, however, I also belive the Rangers will squeeze out another tight win tonight. No OT, no shootout. This game will probably go down to the wire.

  13. Audioserf

    Kalinin will be -20 by the end of tonight.

  14. MAKO

    Beer –
    Yeah I defend Sjostrom all the time because the kid does have talent. Its just always burried on a bad line. Oh and he was on Phoenix, that isnt saying much (but he was a fan favorite there). He and Dubi are power skaters and make room for themselves WHEN they skate. If Renney does in fact keep them together, they could be good together.

  15. Hockeyman Rangers

    We really need our STAR players to actually play like stars.
    Gomez-has been really pretty good latley
    Drury-needs to step it up and socre points, yea he does a lot of other things for us but he need to score or assist
    Nausland- could step it up as well, Yes he is one of the better newbies but I expected more.
    Redden-is a joke, when a rookie like Potter comes in and looks better than a veteran you really need to look at your game.
    Zherdev- He needs to do something with his talent, there is so much there but he doesn’t follow through with goals.
    I think all the other players have played like average players. Some of the top money guys really need to earn their paychecks. I have no idea what team will show up tonight, lets just hope it’s the defensive team that can score a few.

  16. MAKO

    Audio –
    Lets hope not because that means the Devils will score 3 on the Rangers. Dont wanna see Hank in a position like that. Lets get that GA down boys…

  17. MAKO

    Hockey man

    Redden came back after being injured and posted a +3 with 3 assists. If he plays like that for the rest of the season. You wont hear another peep out of me about him.

  18. Pavel

    Redden has been very inconsistent. He was great the first few games, then disappeared, then came back with solid play, then messed up, then did well, then etc etc etc…

    Overall I’m happy with Redden, I just wished he played a bit more sound defensively and actually GOT OPEN on the PP! He was signed to be a PP QB but I rarely see him get open for a quality shot (it’s always blocked).

  19. Phalanx

    “MAKO

    Redden came back after being injured and posted a +3 with 3 assists. If he plays like that for the rest of the season. You wont hear another peep out of me about him.”
    _

    3 secondary assists where he deserved MAYBE one of them. I’d hardly call that a stellar performance.

    ... but it is still better than Kalinen

  20. Who Needs Lohan

    Prediction for tonight…..

    We win 4-3, wait for it, wait for it…..in a Shootout!!!

    Kalinen on ice for 2 GA but actually makes it on the ice just in time to get a + back!
    Dubi kicks Clarkson’s ass (well probably not)
    NYR net a PPG (ambitious of me)
    I may even smile this time!

  21. Pavel

    I don’t care if Redden has 75 secondary assists.. as long as he’s a + in all those situations, it’s all good… meanwhile this team gives up WAY too many odd man rushes where Kalinin fails to cover his man 80% of the time and becomes a minus.

  22. Phalanx

    “WNL

    Prediction for tonight…..

    We win 4-3, wait for it, wait for it…..in a Shootout!!!

    Kalinen on ice for 2 GA but actually makes it on the ice just in time to get a + back!
    Dubi kicks Clarkson’s ass (well probably not)
    NYR net a PPG (ambitious of me)
    I may even smile this time!”
    _

    No shortie for Parise?

  23. Brandon

    Rangers: 3
    Devils: 0

    I don’t care what anyone says. This Devils team is OVERACHEIVING right now. It’s only a matter of time before they bottom out, belly up.

  24. Phalanx

    “Brandon

    Rangers: 3
    Devils: 0

    I don’t care what anyone says. This Devils team is OVERACHEIVING right now. It’s only a matter of time before they bottom out, belly up.”
    _

    With Kalinen on the ice it can be all but guaranteed that we wont get a shutout

  25. Hockeyman Rangers

    I didn’t notice the Redden had some assist last game, well now if he can keep it up that would be good.

    What do we have to do to get Zherduv to score??? I think he has done quite well for us but there is more there.

  26. Kaspar

    Kaspars girlfriend is big Senators fan…watched Redden for last few years and, though I was shocked at length of contract, I was one person who was all for him being here…
    its hard to back up that feeling now, like Phalanx said, it was weak +3 the other night..to me he broke even during the game…

    The most impressive part of Reddens game during Sens years was as a component of a dynamic PP..of course with that big three its easier; we have no one like any of them-no one. the other part of his game that was very good was his passing from near center ice to a breaking ( 2 man attack)...now lets be honest the rangers do not play that way…whether its the guys not doing it (like renney accused them of) or Renny likes 1-2-2 attack I cant say

    What I can say is Ottawa basically chose between he and Chara and chose Redden..(laugh all you want)he was never flashy or conspicous with big hits on dee; more of a positional guy and even that was a mixed success, he made up for it by carrying/passing puck out of his own end very well and on the PP

    Just some thoughts

  27. Pavel

    Zherdev’s reputation seems to be accurate… he disappears for a while then shows up.. then disappears.. I don’t think it’s him.. it’s this idiotic defensive system.. it ruined him in Columbus and now it’s doing it here.. yes I know he’s the leading points guy, but that’s nothing if he has 3g in what, 18 games/!

  28. MAKO

    Phalanx

    I never said he played stellar. I said if he plays like he did the game after his injury where he was a +3 and either way primary or secondary he was productive and was on the ice when a goal was scored. Would you rather him a -3? Come on. All I ask is that he not play as awful as he has been. So if he has a good night, then Im happy for the guy.

  29. Who Needs Lohan

    What are the chances that we will have the same lines tonight that we did on Wednesday? Seriously though, even if the lines are not our best potential combinations you just HAVE to keep them together…

    For such a smart guy I just dont understand how Renney doesnt comprehend this simple fact of life. Think about work. When you start a new job at first things are a bit new and different, but over time you start to know what your coworkers are thinking, you even begin to know what they will likely say or do. New relationship, at first you are finding out things about each other good or bad, but eventually you start to know them, etc.

    Get my analogy…..jeez i’m bored today!

  30. Phalanx

    Pavel

    Zherdev’s reputation seems to be accurate… he disappears for a while then shows up.. then disappears.. I don’t think it’s him.. it’s this idiotic defensive system.. it ruined him in Columbus and now it’s doing it here.. yes I know he’s the leading points guy, but that’s nothing if he has 3g in what, 18 games/!”

    _

    I feel like the issue with Zherdev is a mixture of a few things. Generally, I think hes played pretty damn well… especially defensively. I was worried about him being a defensive liability, but hes been solid for the most part.

    In Columbus, besides Nash… he had no one to work with. So he had to ‘do it by himself’. When he came to the Rangers, he was still used to that.

    That is why, early on, we saw his flashes of brilliance but then didnt know what to do with it and he wasnt using his teammates.

    Then, right before the team went ‘downhill’ he started to ‘figure it out’ and it started clicking and he was looking amazing.

    ... but then the rest of the team forgot how to play. Because now we see his flashes of brilliance and see him looking for a teammate… but there is no-one there with him.

    Z just needs to keep doing what hes doing… and as the team rebounds from its recent failure, he will put up some more points.

  31. Phalanx

    “MAKO

    I never said he played stellar. I said if he plays like he did the game after his injury where he was a +3 and either way primary or secondary he was productive and was on the ice when a goal was scored. Would you rather him a -3? Come on. All I ask is that he not play as awful as he has been. So if he has a good night, then Im happy for the guy.”

    _

    Touche

  32. Staal Wart

    Pavel,
    for the life of me I don’t see how you are happy with Reddens play…but, maybe I see it differently, a 6.5 million dollar man, who isn’t physical and plays with little or no urgency. I don’t doubt that the talent is there, I just have rarely seen it emerge this season.

  33. shesends

    i have no confidence in this team and based on the way they’ve been playing lately, i shouldn’t. unless weekes is in net, we’re going to make clemmensen look like the second coming of patrick roy.

    rangers lose 4 – 1

  34. Sioux-per-man

    Sign Sundin asap!
    We need a power forward that can score. Drury is not getting it done. Trade him to Minnesota, they are looking for something in exchange for Gaborik. I just don’t think Drury is going to live up to his contract.
    How is he not getting grilled by New York fans for being invisible?

  35. Speed Ranger

    Is it too late to chime in that I like Sjo on the Dubi line? He’s been underrated and it’s a good chance for him. And us.

  36. Pavel

    Oh, I’m forcing myself to be happy about Redden because his contract is absolutely unmoveable and we’re stuck with him the next 5 seasons. :’(

  37. Kaspar

    Wait till Sundin Goes along the boards; dragging puck and two dee-men and he goes to dish the puck off but…

    both the other forwards are…ah…” taking appropriate precautions in the nuetral zone while not over-committing during their assessment of the offensive oppurtunity”

  38. Who Needs Lohan

    imagine Renney watching a Leetch end to end rush???

    The horror on his face could only be equalled by a nun watching porn…

  39. Staal Wart

    LMAO, Kasper and Lohan

  40. Sioux-per-man

    Lohan – thanks for the laugh bud. Now there’s a vision.

  41. ChrisS

    I really don’t like Zherdev and Gomez on the same line.. but not because the are “liabilities”, aside from them having ZERO chemistry(yes, renney’s fault for juggling the lines)- I just think we should spread the wealth among the top two lines. the lines that I’d really like Renney to test out:
    Dawes Dubinsky Zherdev
    Naslund Gomez Sjo
    Korp Drury Callhan
    Voros Betts Orr

  42. Tony from AZ

    I’m trying to stay positive about tonights game. But it’s hard after reading all the negativity here.
    Jeezalou, how about backing the team for a change !

  43. Nasty 1

    People are going to always have something to complain about. I seriously doubt that even if we were undefeated up until this point, people would still have things to complain about. And that is fine, I mean to each their own. You just have to stick to your own beliefs and call it a day.

  44. acdaviddc

    I SHOULD’D JINX MYSELF,BUT IN MY LAST 10 RANGER GAMES I’M—9-1.THATS AT THE GARDEN AND AT THE ROCK. INCLUDING PLAYOFFS.
    I’M GOING TONIGHT AND TOMORROW,LET’S SEE IF I CAN GET THAT TO 11-1… I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
    ALL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS KALINEN PLAY GOOD,RENNEY DOESN’T KEEP SWITCHING LINES,OUR TOP PLAYER’S SCORE,AND THE DEFENCE DOSEN’T HANG LUNDQVIST OUT TO DRY,AGAIN.
    IF ALL THAT FAILS WE WILL GET A FIRE RENNEY CHANT GOING.

    WHAT THE HELL I’LL START IT NOW…..

    FIRE RENNEY

  45. GardenFaithfulinFLA

    Kaspar and Lohan – thanks for the laugh of the day – I definitely needed that. It’s been hell week at work (that time spent Mon thru Fri waiting for Ranger games). Lohan – I got a visual of Renney pulling a Home Alone imitation on that one!

  46. Tony from AZ

    acdaviddc – 9-1 ?
    GO TO MORE GAMES !!!!

  47. CCCP

    Hey kids! Its Friday… time to feel positive!

    My prediction for tonight’s game: Rangers 3 Devils 1.
    Sam Rosens toupee with Gordie Howe hat trick

  48. NytesOwl

    I’m hoping we don’t see a repeat of the Montreal game.

  49. NytesOwl

    How does Renney still have a job? Does he have pictures of Sather or Dolan with a farm animal or something?

  50. Jeever

    I think if we get Sundin, we should rotate 6 lines, 1 for each center, and double-shift our wings.

  51. MAKO

    CCCP

    I always thought that was a back to front comb over LOL

  52. Who Needs Lohan

    notice how Staal hasnt tried any after an early season beauty that resulted in a scoring chance. Thats what bugs me most about this team….Sam and Joe talk about SOG all the effing time like it matters. We barely get scoring chances, maybe a dozen a game. And that my friends is his “system”, limit the overall scoring chances for each team and hope your goalie is better than theres and win the game 2-1.

    Quite honestly I want to jump through my TV screen, right through the 1983like broadcast and make that arrogant MF choke on that gum!

    Not down the road…...NOW!

  53. MikeyNJ

    WE seem to really step up in the Devil MAtch ups
    Im hoping for a uper physical game tonight

    Trying to stay positive.
    Too many negatives lately

    Were coming off a win ( and remember two points is two poins no matter how they are gained)

    LEt’s hope NAzzy and Z can light the lamp tonight/
    Devils are primed for a big loss, lets keep the YOU CANT BEAT US chant alive!!

    Lets go Rangers!!

  54. Nasty 1

    Last year the Devils were set to win I think 10 in a row. They would have beat us for that 10th win, but they lost. Let’s hope we become another bump in the road for them again this year.

  55. Domi28

    “WE WILL WIN TONIGHT”- Mark Messier guarantees a victory Game 6 vs. the Devils in the 1993-1994 NHL semifinals.

  56. CCCP

    MAKO

    u r right…Rosen does have Donald trumps hairdo… but from now on we’ll consider it a toupee!

  57. CCCP

    why so quite? everyone went to pray for tonight’s win? lol

  58. Kaspar

    I’m eating Vermont Pizza

    bile….

  59. MAKO

    Everybody is out to lunch, yes probably to the nearest church hahaha

  60. CCCP

    as we say it on Brighton Beach – DREK!

  61. Sioux-per-man

    Will be on the road tonight to travel to my son’s hockey tournament. So no game for me.
    Ranger should win both games this weekend.
    Rangers win in 2-1 in a shootout against Devils. I would love to see a 3-0 shutout by Hank, but I don’t think that is going to happen with Parise and Kalinen on the ice together.
    Should be a good win.
    I like the thought of Sjo getting a chance on the 3rd line, they should find a way to get on the board tonight.
    Z scores the winner in a shootout!

  62. Richard

    Kasper,

    I keep reading your posts and you continuely reference Vermont. You live there? If so, where?

  63. Kaspar

    Richard

    Live outside of Burlington, a little mud-hill called Jericho

  64. Mr Potato Head

    LMAO how everybody is up in arms over Kalinin’s – rating. I’m sure they are the same people who were skewering Malik even as his + was almost 40.

    Get a new argument.

  65. Kaspar

    I watched malik last night….Oh the good old days

  66. Richard

    Kasper,

    We have a place by Sugarbush and was just wondering where you were. We are up a lot during the winter. Love VT.

  67. ChrisS

    It’s funny.. I was going through my hockey cards the other day- looking for some current Rangers..I found some pretty neat ones: A Mike Richter Rookie card, a Chris Drury Flames card, a nik zherdev card.. and then I came to the most valuable card of all time- A MAREK MALIK Harford Whalers rookie card. I was going crazy.. I wish I had the card on me now or else I would recite the back of it to you all.. it said something like “this big defense has an all-star future a head of him” and i couldn’t stop laughing..

    I’ll be glad to sell it at you at a premium price :)

  68. CCCP

    Kasp-E-r… the friendly ghost! lol

  69. MAKO

    CrisS

    I almost fell over my chair when I saw Malik’s career +/-. Ready for this +137 HAHAHAHAHAH

  70. ChrisS

    MAKO,
    I hope this doesn’t insult you.. but when I read that post- I instantly thought to myself “this MAKO must not have his reading glasses on or else he forgot to take his medication today” haha I CANNOT believe it.. Those two years with VAN before the lockout he must of took advantage of being on the ice with Naslund-Bertuzzi-Morrison just like he was always on the ice with the Jagr line.

  71. ThisYearsModel

    Rangers have owned the Rock so far. However, it is all on Lundqvist tonight. He stands on his head or the Rangers go down hard.

  72. Nasty 1

    We need to crash the net and I am hoping we can score first tonight and early.

  73. Nasty 1

    We just have to play a smart home game. Plain and simple :)

  74. Staal Wart

    LOL Nasty,
    I hope Weekes is playing.

  75. Nasty 1

    There is no way in hell that the Devils start Weeks tonight. Not after what we did to him last time. Actually, if memory serves correct, he was yanked and we only scored one goal on Clemmenson. Zherdev in the 3rd. Is that right?

  76. Who Needs Lohan

    WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR COMPOSURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. BillyDeeWilliams

    You know what I’d love to see tonight? A two goal lead at some point. That would make me feel significantly more comfortable. At least for a little while.

    I hate work.

  78. Tony from AZ

    Tonights game plan : Score early – score often !

  79. ChrisS

    BillyDee,
    I’d like to see any goal lead except for five!

  80. Staal Wart

    yeah, I was just saying that Weekes in net might ensure a 5-1 win as I predicted earlier with a Colton Orr hat trick…hey if Dupius can do it…lol

  81. MAKO

    ChrisS

    +23 & +35 last 2 years with Vancouver. +28 & +32 his “good years” with the Rangers LOL

    No insult whatsoever. I had to read it twice myself. LOL

  82. Prucha25

    Who Needs Lohan says “imagine Renney watching a Leetch end to end rush???

    The horror on his face could only be equalled by a nun watching porn…”

    LMAO!!!!

  83. GardenFaithfulinFLA

    I laugh every time I read it!!!! That is definitely one of the top 10 comments of the year!

  84. Nasty 1

    Who Needs Lohan has been on fuggin fire the last few days. That is for damn sure.

  85. ChrisS

    MAKO,
    2003-2004 +/- winner: Malik
    2005-2006 +/- winner: Redden AND rozsival..

    yeah, it really is a useless stat…

  86. Beer Me!

    things you never knew about Toots

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2008/12/12/fivequestions.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101

  87. Nasty 1

    A decent read that I am sure many of you will agree with.

    http://hockeyrodent.com/

  88. ORR !! What Is It Fuggin Good FOR ??

    “imagine Renney watching a Leetch end to end rush??? The horror on his face could only be equalled by a nun watching porn…”

    Ahaahahaha, good one.

    Ugh, just checked out Hockeybuzz, and guess who jumped on the Rozi for Aves bandwagon. Wow, took him long enough.

  89. Who Needs Lohan

    you guys are making me blush, STOOOOOOOOOP IT!!!!!!

  90. Who Needs Lohan

    I actually was still laughing on my drive to work this morning about….next thing you know the doorbell rings and youve got the Fry Guys, Grimace etc. things could get out of hand in a hurry (paraphrased)!

    Left such a mental image…......

  91. MikeyNJ

    Things Tom Renney will be tonight and say tonight:

    Renney will be “Poignant”
    Renney will have alot of “Composure”
    Renney will have “Patience”
    Renney will have “All the offense start from a good defensive Posture”
    Renney will maintain a “High level of business like attitude coming from the bench.
    Renney will change lines “just to change it up”

    Did I say Renney will be Poignant?
    Renney will “Do Good Video”

  92. MAKO

    ChrisS

    LOL yeah its seems to diminish when “All Star” players become Rangers. YAY Defense first!!!!

  93. bklynblue

    nasty Rodent makes a good indictment of Renney, but many like what he has done. He’s made a poor imitation of the NJD.The TEAM now has his personality, dulllllllllllllllll.

  94. Beer Me!

    doesn’t the headline give you chills? good OR bad

    http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=259423&lid=sublink03&lpos=headlines_main

  95. pmike09

    Last week when we beat the pens, everybody was going crazy on this forum and was predicting the rangers to beat the habs. I never found the time to post my thoughts before tht game but I “knew” tht the rangers would lose, bad. I was right. Almost the same thing with the atlanta game the other night, I knew it they would give a halfass effort and piss us all off, I was right. Tonight, I hope im wrong, I really do, but im calling it like this: 1st pd, devils up 2-0 .. 2nd pd, 3-0 and then 3-1 .. final score, 4-2 devils, seal it with an empty net. Remember this post!

  96. Kaspar

    Ecklund’s at it again; he’s coppin’ the ESPN story from yesterday…LOL

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Rosival-for-Avery-to-Clear-Cap-for-Sundin/1/18355

  97. LI Joe

    for thoise of you who only post or read during working hours like beerme – i posted this later yesterday since there was talk about goalies

    http://www.goaliesarchive.com/rangers/index.html

    one more to come

    AND KASPAR – they only wanted to borrow a dollar from Dore witrh the intention of paying back?

  98. LI Joe

    the other one posted after working hrs

    http://www.eddiegiacomin.com/home.html

  99. graves9

    Elias has played his best stretch since the ‘06 playoffs ditto for Gionta. Parise has become a top line two way forward. Clemmesen has been rather remarkable. I don’t have a good feeling about this one the Devs have a big time top line and Rolston is back plus Renney will play Kalinin more than usual to show everyone how much he believes in him.

  100. ChrisS

    Only two more hours and then I’m done with friggin’ school for a month and half.. then I can sit back, crack open a beer and watch the rangers destroy the devils.
    Everyone enjoy their day of Rangers hockey!

  101. Kaspar

    Great list LI Joe
    I’m seeing right now how many I remember

  102. MAKO

    Nasty1

    After reading that rodent rant. I hate Renney more…

  103. MikeyNJ

    So Renney finally comes clean in an interview about Prucha

    PRetty telling.
    Pruchs and Fritsche playing D in practice?

    So that will be $1.6mil and what $600K plus out the door on top of Rissmiller’s salary to sign Sundin or whoever if he chooses elsewhere?

    Just typical Hypocrite Renney, praises Prucha in the preseason, best player in shape out of the whole team blah blah blah, and then throws him under the rug.

    Those comments offically have turned me against Renney

    I dont hate Renney, I just think he’s a piece of Sh@t

    hehe
    lets go Rangers!!
    F Renney!!

  104. Kaspar

    KEEP PRUCHA

    AND F-F-F-F-F-F-F-FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF….

  105. Kaspar

    SORRY

    FFFFFFFFFFIRE RENNEY

  106. Kaspar

    WHO ON THIS BL0G GOES TO GAMES????

    Next Game you have to chant Pru-ka! Prr-ka! Pru-Ka!

    I’ll do it up here in VT

    Richard in sugarbush will to

    But they wont hear us

  107. MAKO

    LOL “I dont hate Renney, I just think he is a piece of sh!t”

    HAHAHHAHAH

  108. GardenFaithfulinFLA

    MikeyNJ post at 2:20 pm
    Things Tom Renney will be tonight and say tonight . . .

    And you know that they will be “at the end of the day”.

  109. Staal Wart

    Wow Rodents Rant was pretty intense, but honestly over the last 2 weeks or so I’m starting to agree.
    I’ve had a few discussions with my brother in law Devils fan about the Rangers style of play. I always say its boring but at least they were winning games…but to be honest most games are pretty tough to watch…my brother in law is jealous because he’s all “defense first” and “I like winning games 2-1. I think it sucks! I’d rather see the Rangers loose a game 7-6 than 2-1…in fact my wife thinks that after the post lock out season the Rangers have plummeted in the excitement department and she won’t watch the games anymore.

    I feel bad for Prucha…but I have to ask this question. What is Renney’s type of player? And if Dawes is a play maker we are F’ed !

  110. Staal Wart

    I am going to the games on Dec. 23 vs. Washington,
    Dec 27 vs the Debbies
    and
    Dec 29 vs. the Fishsticks

  111. Beer Me!

    I usually don’t read The Rodent. Mainly because you can just change the dates on his entries, they’re always the same.

    But after reading that, it adds to something I’ve mentioned here and there, but never really brought to ‘full light’.

    That is, that he (the rodent, amongst many followers here) 9 times out of 10, states/believes that it’s Renney’s full discretion of who is in the lineup. I can’t say with 100% certainty that that’s not the case. But allow me to introduce my theory.

    Slats took an absolute fan (and media to a FAR lesser extent) beating after we had missed the 7th consecutive season. After that…slats became a ghost. Unless you’re on the 6th floor entrance of Tower A @ msg…you can catch him there entering the elevator up to his ‘perch’ before games.

    And if his face wasn’t in the Media Guide, you’d never know Shoenfeld was even employed by the NYR.

    A lot of the coaches that were shuffled through the home bench at msg through that 7 year span were…’knuckleheads’ if you will. Forcing Slats to step in from time to time as personel matters were discussed with the press. With the thought that said ‘knuckleheads’ couldn’t get the ‘PC’ answers to the media that he wanted.

    Now, he’s got someone behind the bench, and though most don’t like it, can give the press an “answer” that IS (intentional) double-talk, or whatever you’d like to call it. But it’s been a growing trend in the NYR PR dept the last few years.

    If it weren’t the head coach answering those questions, which its NOT in most cities, it’s my strong belief that there would be a lot less critics of Tom Renney. He’s in the position to not only to receive criticisms for on-ice/ behind the bench happenings, but personel issues as well. Whether it’s by choice or job-description, it doesn’t really matter who’s relaying the message.

    If anyone follows other teams closesly enough, I’ll use OTT as an example. I see Melnyk quoted as often as I do Murray or I DID Paddock (but a little more often now with Hartsburg). So there are different methods of communication throughout the league. I haven’t really seen another organization that utilizes their head coach so much as a media liason as we do.

    And I think that has a lot of bearing on the ‘heat’ that he faces for personel decisions…to be clear about this.

    Sure, that’s a defense of Renney. But not from a coaching perspective. From a “get your head out of your ass and think for yourself fans” perspective.

    Sorry for the long post.

  112. Kaspar

    ” feel bad for Prucha…but I have to ask this question. What is Renney’s type of player?”
    Staal Wart 12-12-08

    This type player has a flat stick, no curve for shooting; they wear double runner blades and get electricuted if they cross a blue or red line…..

  113. Staal Wart

    Kasper does said player wear a leash?

  114. Phalanx

    “WHO ON THIS BL0G GOES TO GAMES????

    Next Game you have to chant Pru-ka! Prr-ka! Pru-Ka!

    I’ll do it up here in VT

    Richard in sugarbush will to

    But they wont hear us”

    _

    I’ll be doing it up here by the MA/NH border!

  115. Staal Wart

    Phalanx, you should follow the Bruins, there coach is phenominal!

  116. MAKO

    LMFAO!

    Kaspar
    December 12th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    ” feel bad for Prucha…but I have to ask this question. What is Renney’s type of player?”
    Staal Wart 12-12-08

    This type player has a flat stick, no curve for shooting; they wear double runner blades and get electricuted if they cross a blue or red line…..

  117. Who Needs Lohan

    BeerMe, that description sounds all too familiar….his name is George W. Bush!

  118. Kaspar

    Yes staal a leash would fit too LOL…

    Ok now, lets stop picking on Renney; he’ll only think up bigger words to stump us

    Lets go Rangers

    I hope I hear a “pru-ka!!” chant at the rock tonite

  119. Beer Me!

    lohan – missing the connection. but I’ve had a long day.

  120. Staal Wart

    Lohan, please no politics…its making me sick….hockey please…even if its renney bashing.

  121. Staal Wart

    I have a big word…triperspectival

  122. Kaspar

    Phalanx

    You live near that great-state liquor store on 93???

  123. Matt

    i go to games

  124. Kaspar

    do it Matt…seriously…do it…do it

  125. Jeever

    I shall be there tomorrow. I’ll try to get a Pruch chant started.

  126. GardenFaithfulinFLA

    I’ll be doing it in FLA!

  127. doodie machetto

    The link in my profile will forever settle the “who is creepier” debate from yesterday.

    Personally, my favorite caption is the Coming to America reference.

  128. Beer Me!

    I’ll be there tomorrow too. The only thing I’ll be chanting is “Lets Go Rangers” though.

  129. Jeever

    where you sitting beer? I’m 304.

  130. Kaspar

    Doodie! Geez, you tryin to frighten the kids or what?

    Beer Me! Bring a sign that says “Kiss my A** Kaspar” or “suck eggs” or something….Have a good time….

    Its up to you Jeever; everyone else lives north of the frost line….or in FLA!!

  131. Beer Me!

    408

    http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1574/turcort0.jpg

  132. Beer Me!

    fatty

    http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4581/broduerdonutlp0.jpg

  133. doodie machetto

    Guys, sorry to disappoint you. But I’ll be there tomorrow too, which means they’re gonna lose.

  134. Beer Me!

    only game I was able to make it to this year was the 1-0 win over TOR.

  135. Speed Ranger

    I can join the PRUCHA chant Jan 5th…... think that will be too late?

  136. LI Joe

    i’m 6-1

    wins vs chi, atl, tb, ott, pho, pitt
    loss vs avery

    not going to today or tomorrow though

  137. Jeever

    Beer you’re by Larry, right? I’m on the other corner, same side…

  138. LI Joe

    speed depends on sundin or shanny

  139. Speed Ranger

    Hi Joe

  140. Kaspar

    Last year I remember I , and all the crazy Rangers-jersey wearers, were keeping track of our jerseys records…everyone went on like 6-7 games streaks with the jerseys after the 6-5 Mont’l loss..LOL

    I washed the mustard stains off mine finally…

    The Jersey can’t win a game for Sh**

    I’m thinking of getting one of those 1976-77 shield- pajama type ones….

  141. doodie machetto

    Since the lockout, I’m something like 5-20.

    Remember a couple of seasons ago when they only lost one game in regulation over the last month and a half of the season. I was at that game. That’s my kind of luck.

  142. Staal Wart

    speaking of chants I heard 4 people last Sunday vs. Calgary chanting “fire Renney”

  143. Kaspar

    Speed…

    even if they trade Puchs by then; chant it anyway!!

    It’ll be very chic…like that screaming mime in one of those retarded early 90’s seattle movies

  144. Pavel

    I haven’t gone to a game this year because of my schedule.. but I’ll make an effort if..we…. SIGN SUNDIN!

  145. Phalanx

    “Staal Wart

    Phalanx, you should follow the Bruins, there coach is phenominal!”
    __

    I pay a little bit of attention to the Bs and Ive been to a couple games. They sure ar emore fun to watch because they come to play every night. I also love their color commentator. Hes so enthusiastic.

    Nothing will ever beat Sam & JD, though.

    ....

    “Kaspar

    You live near that great-state liquor store on 93???”

    Im about 30min from there. Im actually closer to the liquor store on I95

  146. LI Joe

    Hi speed – that’s a good game to have. both games vs pitt were good ones (i went to the 2nd one)

    Kaspar – did you ever go to the US hockey game up by you (juniors?)

  147. Speed Ranger

    Da, Kaspar! It’ll be instant retro. Good call.

  148. Greg L.

    Rangers win 4 -1 with gomez’s 3 points and Z ’s 3pts.

  149. Kaspar

    “speaking of chants I heard 4 people last Sunday vs. Calgary chanting “fire Renney”

    Staal
    Hey were they led off in plastic handcuffs and sprayed down with a fire extinguisher in the alley??

    Phalanx
    I never went to that one but that one on 93 is like the superbowl of booze…like a Coscos for booze

    LIJoe
    No I haven’t, going to a few H.S games though.

  150. Tony from AZ

    I’ll be chanting PRUC-HA in Phx, AZ

  151. Rrrraider!

    Big time game tonight boys and girls. Wish I could be there tomorrow as well but latkes and brisket call. How long before “Fire Renney” gets on the chant cycle? Another home shutout?

  152. LI Joe

    kaspar – i just remember someone kept asking you to go to some game up there. thought it was around this time

  153. 22figure8

    I’m 3-1 this year. I went last Sunday to ruin the streak.

  154. Phalanx

    “Kaspar

    I never went to that one but that one on 93 is like the superbowl of booze…like a Coscos for booze”

    Ive stopped at the one on 95 a few times on my way home from New England Dragway in Epping, NH.

    Im rather certain its the same as the one on 93. When you walk through the door you have to pinch yourself b/c you’d think you just died and went to heaven, lol.

  155. Kaspar

    LIJoe
    Yeah…He seems like a pretty good guy…he’s got some UVM tix for season…they had a really good program there for a while..then I moved up here and they have been going a little bit south but they always sell out!

    I will do the pru-ka chant in Boston on Jan 31st NYR-Boston

    and maybe at the H/S games

    it’ll become like Yada Yada

  156. Matt

    im 3 and 1 as well. next game im going to is dec 29 cause im going away next week. i will miss u guys though

  157. Phalanx

    Im 2-2-1 @ NYR games …
    vs Tampa (W), Isles (W), Ottawa (L), Devils (L – 07-08 playoffs), Bruins (SOL @ Boston)

    my brother is 0-2 … ott and njd (last seasons playoffs, grrr)

    ... but he did manage to taunt Chris Neil to his face right before this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNdNK_jS5eg&feature=channel_page

  158. Phalanx

    “Kaspar

    I will do the pru-ka chant in Boston on Jan 31st NYR-Boston”

    I will join you… because Im going to thatgame as well, along with my brother.

  159. Ralph

    I’m a Ranger fan from Brooklyn, now living in Albuquerque, N.M. I’ll do both chants from here. not much Ranger conversation down here. You guys are all great

    GO RANGERS

  160. Jeever

    hey Kasper! I’ll be in Boston for that 01/31 game too! I’ll join your chant!

  161. Kaspar

    Phalanx
    I’ll let you know where I’m sitting once my buddy from Ny ( an Isl fan by the way) lets me know…last time we went he fell down and almost cracked his large Islander head open trying to walk on the seats..spilled his beer too

  162. NYRinPHX

    Tony

    I’ll see if I can hear you from my house by 51st ave and Union Hills

  163. Kaspar

    Gotta go!

    Lets Go Rangers!!

  164. Phalanx

    “Kaspar

    I’ll let you know where I’m sitting once my buddy from Ny ( an Isl fan by the way) lets me know…last time we went he fell down and almost cracked his large Islander head open trying to walk on the seats..spilled his beer too”

    Sounds good to me… ill let you know when i figure out where my seats are. I havent been able to buy tickets yet b/c i dont know how many people i need to buy them for.

    figures an isles fan would embarrass himself like that :)

  165. CCCP

    HEAVE HO! HEAVE HO! HEAVE HO!

  166. Phalanx

    “Jeever

    hey Kasper! I’ll be in Boston for that 01/31 game too! I’ll join your chant!”

    Let us know what section you’re gonna be in thumbs up

  167. Tony from AZ

    NYRinPHX
    surprised you haven’t heard me chanting before – from 75th Ave & Thunderbird !!

  168. NYRinPHX

    Hey yea, not that far- I think I might have heard you screaming at the t.v.

  169. MikeyNJ

    I’ll be at the Dec 27th game against NJ

    My record for games over hte last few yearsso far is 17-2
    LAst time we lost when I was at a game was that game Hollwegg had two goals against Philly last year

    And Im chanting Prucha!!

  170. Jeever

    haha Phalanx, In int he asme boat as you 2… waiting for a friend to buy the tickets.

    all I have so far is bus tickets from NY to Boston…

  171. Phalanx

    “Jeever

    haha Phalanx, In int he asme boat as you 2… waiting for a friend to buy the tickets.

    all I have so far is bus tickets from NY to Boston…”

    Im only a 30min car ride away. Woohoo!!

    _

    Alrighty fellas, Im off to start commute home. Talk to y’all later.

    LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!!

  172. CCCP

    THIS IS BULLSH i was supposed to go to the game today with a friend of mine… the guy just canceled on me!! apparently he is taking some chick to the game instead of ME!!sure i dont have what she’s got to offer in the “snack” department… but C’MON!! i gotta get new friends!

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