Comments on: Where to turn from here http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/ News and insight about the New York Rangers by Rick Carpiniello Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:04:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: yan http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-116051 yan Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:51:45 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-116051 the problem with this coaching staff is that they know how to keep a team on the winning road, when the team is winning, once the team hits a bump and gets off the road they do not know how to get it back on the road. All they do is constantly change the lines. there is no benching of players (outside of prucha, daws, fritche, korpi). this is a reason why the power play has sucked for the past 3 years. Its easy to coach when the team is doing good but not when the team sucks. When the team is good reney does nothing, when they suck all of a sudden its constant line changes and thats it. good coaches do other things. other problems with reney; he does not know when to call time outs, he doesnt know when to pull and change the goallie. I am very greatful to Tom for changing the face of the rangers franchise but unfortunately it is time to part, the rangers will never be a cup contender with him at the top. the problem with this coaching staff is that they know how to keep a team on the winning road, when the team is winning, once the team hits a bump and gets off the road they do not know how to get it back on the road. All they do is constantly change the lines. there is no benching of players (outside of prucha, daws, fritche, korpi). this is a reason why the power play has sucked for the past 3 years. Its easy to coach when the team is doing good but not when the team sucks. When the team is good reney does nothing, when they suck all of a sudden its constant line changes and thats it. good coaches do other things. other problems with reney; he does not know when to call time outs, he doesnt know when to pull and change the goallie. I am very greatful to Tom for changing the face of the rangers franchise but unfortunately it is time to part, the rangers will never be a cup contender with him at the top.

]]> By: Akayama49 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-116033 Akayama49 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:24:40 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-116033 I agree with LI Joe's last comment. Tho Joe and I politely disagree on Dawes' upside, if after last night's game Dawes doesn't play LW in Atlanta in place of Korpikoski, I'm not watching. Dawes, an RFA at the end of next season, will wear a new uniform next season. I predict, unlike Hugh Jessiman, this draft pick will succeed when his new team gives him a meaningful opportunity. Oh, I forgot, wasn't it Dawes who started the comeback against the Devils in mid-November, and didn't score late in the Bruin's game to lead us to the come-from-behind shootout victory during the next game. So in limited playing time, he's "regressing"? Here we have a player who's being abused by fans and coaches alike. I don't get it. His ability to score goals at every level (including 14 last season in the NHL) counts for nothing with these experts. I suggest he hasn't gotten too much playing time this season but too little. He certainly wouldn't have hurt us last night against the Flames and he might have helped. Since the current coaching staff has no confidence in him, let him go to another organization where they will encourage him to succeed. I agree with LI Joe’s last comment. Tho Joe and I politely disagree on Dawes’ upside, if after last night’s game Dawes doesn’t play LW in Atlanta in place of Korpikoski, I’m not watching. Dawes, an RFA at the end of next season, will wear a new uniform next season. I predict, unlike Hugh Jessiman, this draft pick will succeed when his new team gives him a meaningful opportunity. Oh, I forgot, wasn’t it Dawes who started the comeback against the Devils in mid-November, and didn’t score late in the Bruin’s game to lead us to the come-from-behind shootout victory during the next game. So in limited playing time, he’s “regressing”? Here we have a player who’s being abused by fans and coaches alike. I don’t get it. His ability to score goals at every level (including 14 last season in the NHL) counts for nothing with these experts. I suggest he hasn’t gotten too much playing time this season but too little. He certainly wouldn’t have hurt us last night against the Flames and he might have helped. Since the current coaching staff has no confidence in him, let him go to another organization where they will encourage him to succeed.

]]> By: Max http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-116030 Max Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:17:39 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-116030 I dont think this is an excuse to blame renny either but i do think that his defensive style of play affects the way that the offense should play, which leads to goal scorers not scoring as much as they should. this has been the case for the last few seasons now. I dont think this is an excuse to blame renny either but i do think that his defensive style of play affects the way that the offense should play, which leads to goal scorers not scoring as much as they should. this has been the case for the last few seasons now.

]]> By: LI Joe http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115997 LI Joe Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:59:24 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115997 mikey- they got rid of 1 extra forward. they have 2 which is fine since injuries will ALWAYS HAPPEN. the team has been very lucky so far in that regard. bette should have sat last night since he was compromised physically. would have given dawes or fritsche a chance, mikey- they got rid of 1 extra forward. they have 2 which is fine since injuries will ALWAYS HAPPEN. the team has been very lucky so far in that regard. bette should have sat last night since he was compromised physically. would have given dawes or fritsche a chance,

]]> By: Staal Wart http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115991 Staal Wart Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:46:40 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115991 Repost with a few changes... Staal Wart December 8th, 2008 at 9:56 am I haven’t posted much lately, because frankly I just needed a break, but I just have to comment because I have been known to look at the big picture with Renney and overall I liked what I saw, not everything, but like I said, BIG picture. However that being said, I was at the game last night and and I just don’t see a motivated team at this time. I see a frustrated Lundquist who from what I saw didn’t even go to the bench during TV timeouts like every other player. I see a team who playes on the outskirts of the offensive zone and outside of Zherdev has almost NO scoring punch…I mean nothing…I remember 1 scoring chance last night and it happened in the first 30 seconds of the game. I hate to say it but last night the most action I saw in the offensive zone was from the 4th line…NOT GOOD! Orr, Betts and Sjo looking dangerous? come on! Gomez has no finisher, he does the same thing, skates the puck up the ice and its a thing of beauty, but there is no one in position to do anything so…he goes behind the net sends it to the point for a shot that takes a millenium to get off and ends up being blocked when in stead there should have been a winger skating behind him for a drop pass and one timer. I also saw a team that botched a line change so bad that for almost 30 seconds we had 4 skaters on the ice. Like usual I can’t put all the blame on Renney, some yes, line changes shouldn’t happen like that. He needs to go back to the drawing board on his so called system. There is always one too many passes, that lead to no shot or a blocked shot. Does this team know about 1 timers? or at least just a quick shot toward the net? But ultimately its Sathers job to get a finisher for Gomez. Its Sathers job to surround Drury, Gomez and Zherdev with players who complement them. Its Sathers job to know the scope of the league and find players who fit in here, and not just thorw money at free agents because they are "available". Don’t get me wrong, I think we have a good team base here but we need a few more offensive parts that fit. On the other hand its also Sathers job to not just throw money at a washed up Redden, I can’t believe that he is here for the next 6 years. WTF!!! Potter looked shaky at first but I have to say, Potter in one game outplayed Redden and he throws the body. I know some will disagree here but…I’d rather have Rozi and his contract than Redden with his. Rozi at least shows signs of competence. Sather has been here longer than Renney and frankly outside of landing Zherdev, Gomez and Drury who I like he has sucked! So before calling for Renney head please aim for Sathers! BTW...I heard fire Renney chants last night from lets see... 4 people...so I don't think that movement is quite off the ground yet. Repost with a few changes…
Staal Wart December 8th, 2008 at 9:56 am

I haven’t posted much lately, because frankly I just needed a break, but I just have to comment because I have been known to look at the big picture with Renney and overall I liked what I saw, not everything, but like I said, BIG picture. However that being said, I was at the game last night and and I just don’t see a motivated team at this time. I see a frustrated Lundquist who from what I saw didn’t even go to the bench during TV timeouts like every other player.
I see a team who playes on the outskirts of the offensive zone and outside of Zherdev has almost NO scoring punch…I mean nothing…I remember 1 scoring chance last night and it happened in the first 30 seconds of the game. I hate to say it but last night the most action I saw in the offensive zone was from the 4th line…NOT GOOD! Orr, Betts and Sjo looking dangerous? come on!
Gomez has no finisher, he does the same thing, skates the puck up the ice and its a thing of beauty, but there is no one in position to do anything so…he goes behind the net sends it to the point for a shot that takes a millenium to get off and ends up being blocked when in stead there should have been a winger skating behind him for a drop pass and one timer.
I also saw a team that botched a line change so bad that for almost 30 seconds we had 4 skaters on the ice.
Like usual I can’t put all the blame on Renney, some yes, line changes shouldn’t happen like that. He needs to go back to the drawing board on his so called system. There is always one too many passes, that lead to no shot or a blocked shot. Does this team know about 1 timers? or at least just a quick shot toward the net?
But ultimately its Sathers job to get a finisher for Gomez. Its Sathers job to surround Drury, Gomez and Zherdev with players who complement them. Its Sathers job to know the scope of the league and find players who fit in here, and not just thorw money at free agents because they are “available”. Don’t get me wrong, I think we have a good team base here but we need a few more offensive parts that fit.
On the other hand its also Sathers job to not just throw money at a washed up Redden, I can’t believe that he is here for the next 6 years. WTF!!! Potter looked shaky at first but I have to say, Potter in one game outplayed Redden and he throws the body. I know some will disagree here but…I’d rather have Rozi and his contract than Redden with his. Rozi at least shows signs of competence.
Sather has been here longer than Renney and frankly outside of landing Zherdev, Gomez and Drury who I like he has sucked!
So before calling for Renney head please aim for Sathers!
BTW…I heard fire Renney chants last night from lets see…
4 people…so I don’t think that movement is quite off the ground yet.

]]> By: yan http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115979 yan Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:23:32 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115979 I dont think we need to trade any one. I think the problem is the coaching staff. As much as I like Renney and the rest of the suits I do not think that the rangers will be anything more than just a regular team with them at the helms. I dont think we need to trade any one. I think the problem is the coaching staff. As much as I like Renney and the rest of the suits I do not think that the rangers will be anything more than just a regular team with them at the helms.

]]> By: Blue Face http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115978 Blue Face Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:23:18 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115978 Get Laviolette!!! Get Laviolette!!!

]]> By: MAKO http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115972 MAKO Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:01:03 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115972 Hell I'd trade Drury back to Buffalo for Paul Gaustad to made space for Sundin :) Hell I’d trade Drury back to Buffalo for Paul Gaustad to made space for Sundin :)

]]> By: MAKO http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115968 MAKO Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:54:55 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115968 MikeNJ IMHO I really dont think Sundin is coming to the Rangers. They would have to move Redden with Kalinin or at least 6-7 million dollars worth of cap space to fit him. Which hell I'd move Redden & Kalinin for Sundin. But then we need 2 top 4 dmen and honestly what team would want those 2? Its too late to sit either one or "bench them" to get them frustrated so they leave the club. Rumor has it Sundin is supposed to sign with someone by December 15th. MikeNJ

IMHO I really dont think Sundin is coming to the Rangers. They would have to move Redden with Kalinin or at least 6-7 million dollars worth of cap space to fit him. Which hell I’d move Redden & Kalinin for Sundin. But then we need 2 top 4 dmen and honestly what team would want those 2? Its too late to sit either one or “bench them” to get them frustrated so they leave the club. Rumor has it Sundin is supposed to sign with someone by December 15th.

]]> By: MAKO http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/12/08/where-to-turn-from-here/#comment-115966 MAKO Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:38:47 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/?p=2146#comment-115966 Salty I completely agree. So fun, skating fast with the puck, creating plays, PP was clicking, ***COUGH COUGH*** scoring... Salty

I completely agree. So fun, skating fast with the puck, creating plays, PP was clicking, COUGH COUGH scoring…

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