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		<title>By: Pop Zeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pop Zeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FIRE BOB

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		<title>By: MAKO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAKO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shesends

I looked on NHLNUMBERS for the stats on their cap.  Hey I really like Bou.  Anything other than Redden or Rosi right now would be an instant improvement.  Im always winning to give the benefit of the doubt, but 20+ games into the season and you still cant get it together... there is something wrong there.

Torts is a very emotional coach and doesnt take any sh*t from his players.  I think he would be able to motivate this team.  But like you said... Maybe he is good friends with Renney.  But ultimately, its Dolan &amp; Sather...</description>
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<p>I looked on NHLNUMBERS for the stats on their cap.  Hey I really like Bou.  Anything other than Redden or Rosi right now would be an instant improvement.  Im always winning to give the benefit of the doubt, but 20+ games into the season and you still cant get it together&#8230; there is something wrong there.</p>
<p>Torts is a very emotional coach and doesnt take any sh*t from his players.  I think he would be able to motivate this team.  But like you said&#8230; Maybe he is good friends with Renney.  But ultimately, its Dolan &#038; Sather&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rocketnyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocketnyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>22figure8:

&quot;Rocket-Do you really think that if Potter and Sanguinetti were ready for the NHL, the Rangers would purposely keep them down?&quot;

Do you think that either of those guys could be any worse than Rozsival or Redden? I don&#039;t. 

As for being ready, weren&#039;t Callahan, Staal, Girardi and Dubinsky supposed to be &quot;not ready&quot; also? We were calling for them to be called up and inserted into the lineup for months, but we kept getting that answer. Then surprise, when they got their chances, they did fine. They played better than the washed-up veterans they replaced. 

My opinion is that SatheRenney don&#039;t want to embarrass Rozsival and Redden - or the Rangers organization which gave them disgraceful contracts - by replacing them and having the kids play better.

Same with Prucha - if they ever gave him a real shot on the PP and he started scoring, they&#039;d have a lot of answering to do for their horrible treatment of him. They&#039;d rather have the worst power play in the league than to take a gamble that Prucha will revive the PP and show that they don&#039;t know their asses from their elbows. So Prucha sits.

It&#039;s full-blown cover your ass mode at MSG.

I heard that at the last game, the fans were chanting &quot;We want Melrose&quot; - LOL!. I wouldn&#039;t go that far, but we certainly need a better coach than we have to get the team rolling on all cylinders. Tortorella, Laviolette, Nolan are all better coaches than Renney, and all are available. I&#039;d be fine with any one of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22figure8:</p>
<p>&#8220;Rocket-Do you really think that if Potter and Sanguinetti were ready for the NHL, the Rangers would purposely keep them down?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think that either of those guys could be any worse than Rozsival or Redden? I don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>As for being ready, weren&#8217;t Callahan, Staal, Girardi and Dubinsky supposed to be &#8220;not ready&#8221; also? We were calling for them to be called up and inserted into the lineup for months, but we kept getting that answer. Then surprise, when they got their chances, they did fine. They played better than the washed-up veterans they replaced. </p>
<p>My opinion is that SatheRenney don&#8217;t want to embarrass Rozsival and Redden &#8211; or the Rangers organization which gave them disgraceful contracts &#8211; by replacing them and having the kids play better.</p>
<p>Same with Prucha &#8211; if they ever gave him a real shot on the PP and he started scoring, they&#8217;d have a lot of answering to do for their horrible treatment of him. They&#8217;d rather have the worst power play in the league than to take a gamble that Prucha will revive the PP and show that they don&#8217;t know their asses from their elbows. So Prucha sits.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s full-blown cover your ass mode at MSG.</p>
<p>I heard that at the last game, the fans were chanting &#8220;We want Melrose&#8221; &#8211; LOL!. I wouldn&#8217;t go that far, but we certainly need a better coach than we have to get the team rolling on all cylinders. Tortorella, Laviolette, Nolan are all better coaches than Renney, and all are available. I&#8217;d be fine with any one of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: The Forechecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Forechecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiderpig, thanks for linking to the Penalty Plus/Minus figures.  Just to let you know, those figures do include Fighting Majors, but exclude 10-minute Misconducts.  I use 2, 4, and 5 minute penalties because those are the ones that can impact on-ice strength for each team.

For fighting majors, those typically balance out (one drawn, one taken for each fight), so the effect on Penalty Plus/Minus is nil.

And don&#039;t knock Redden too much for his -6; most teams have someone below that figure, and 8 players are at -11 or worse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiderpig, thanks for linking to the Penalty Plus/Minus figures.  Just to let you know, those figures do include Fighting Majors, but exclude 10-minute Misconducts.  I use 2, 4, and 5 minute penalties because those are the ones that can impact on-ice strength for each team.</p>
<p>For fighting majors, those typically balance out (one drawn, one taken for each fight), so the effect on Penalty Plus/Minus is nil.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t knock Redden too much for his -6; most teams have someone below that figure, and 8 players are at -11 or worse!</p>
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		<title>By: 22figure8</title>
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		<dc:creator>22figure8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocket-Do you really think that if Potter and Sanguinetti were ready for the NHL, the Rangers would purposely keep them down? And for everybody calling for a 7th defenseman to be brought up, he would probably sit out more than Prucha and if he does get in, Mara or Kalinen would be sitting, not Rozy or Redden. 

UK &amp; Beer- Yes this board is different from 2 years ago. It seems like when the Rangers were building from the rubble of 4 years ago, everybody was happy to see progress in little steps. Now everybody expects to win every game and even when they do win, it wasn&#039;t good enough. I still like to check out this board during the day, but it is definitely different and less fun/friendly then before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocket-Do you really think that if Potter and Sanguinetti were ready for the NHL, the Rangers would purposely keep them down? And for everybody calling for a 7th defenseman to be brought up, he would probably sit out more than Prucha and if he does get in, Mara or Kalinen would be sitting, not Rozy or Redden. </p>
<p>UK &#038; Beer- Yes this board is different from 2 years ago. It seems like when the Rangers were building from the rubble of 4 years ago, everybody was happy to see progress in little steps. Now everybody expects to win every game and even when they do win, it wasn&#8217;t good enough. I still like to check out this board during the day, but it is definitely different and less fun/friendly then before.</p>
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		<title>By: JJP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salty - glad to see you agree with me on the Staal/Redden thing. 

Question on one of your other comments though.  You mention that the next two months will be embarrassing but I&#039;m not sure what you mean. I&#039;m of the opinion that this is a 4/5/6 positioned team in the conference.  Not to say I wouldn&#039;t be thrilled if they won the division but realistically I think Pittsburgh has more weapons.  

If the team is in the 4 through 6 spots at the end of January, is it really &quot;embarrassing&quot; or just the team equaling out to where they belong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salty &#8211; glad to see you agree with me on the Staal/Redden thing. </p>
<p>Question on one of your other comments though.  You mention that the next two months will be embarrassing but I&#8217;m not sure what you mean. I&#8217;m of the opinion that this is a 4/5/6 positioned team in the conference.  Not to say I wouldn&#8217;t be thrilled if they won the division but realistically I think Pittsburgh has more weapons.  </p>
<p>If the team is in the 4 through 6 spots at the end of January, is it really &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; or just the team equaling out to where they belong?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in DE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeA, classic commercial.  As many hockey players have successfully made it in TV and movies (&quot;kick his ass, Sea Bass!&quot;, the current Pens are definitely not in that group.  That was almost as funny as the Pavel Datsyuk commercial that airs of FSN Detroit.  

Spriderpig, interesting stat.  I&#039;d say the reason Cally draws so many penalties is because he always keeps his legs moving and never quits on the play.  Players take penalties when they get beat.  Hell, we should know that for watching Malik and Rozy as long as we have.  Player gets by you, so you hook, hold, slash, trip, interfere...  The problem is, how many goals has Cally cost us by getting those PPs and us giving up shorties?  

I&#039;m not looking for Redden to turn into Lidstrom.  In fact, if he could disappear on the ice that would be great.  Same for Rozy.  Because that would mean that they didn&#039;t make any glaring mistakes.  Strip the puck in the defensive zone, make a good pass up, forward gains the offensive zone.  Perfect.  I don&#039;t need huge hits, or laser slap shots ripping through the net.  Just smart, rudimentary defense with a shot from the point that is at least on goal and deflectable.  Staal and Mara have been the closest we have to that, with the exception being Mara&#039;s shot, which I swear is going to kill someone in a luxury box before the season is over</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeA, classic commercial.  As many hockey players have successfully made it in TV and movies (&#8220;kick his ass, Sea Bass!&#8221;, the current Pens are definitely not in that group.  That was almost as funny as the Pavel Datsyuk commercial that airs of FSN Detroit.  </p>
<p>Spriderpig, interesting stat.  I&#8217;d say the reason Cally draws so many penalties is because he always keeps his legs moving and never quits on the play.  Players take penalties when they get beat.  Hell, we should know that for watching Malik and Rozy as long as we have.  Player gets by you, so you hook, hold, slash, trip, interfere&#8230;  The problem is, how many goals has Cally cost us by getting those PPs and us giving up shorties?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not looking for Redden to turn into Lidstrom.  In fact, if he could disappear on the ice that would be great.  Same for Rozy.  Because that would mean that they didn&#8217;t make any glaring mistakes.  Strip the puck in the defensive zone, make a good pass up, forward gains the offensive zone.  Perfect.  I don&#8217;t need huge hits, or laser slap shots ripping through the net.  Just smart, rudimentary defense with a shot from the point that is at least on goal and deflectable.  Staal and Mara have been the closest we have to that, with the exception being Mara&#8217;s shot, which I swear is going to kill someone in a luxury box before the season is over</p>
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		<title>By: Spiderpig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiderpig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another knock against Redden: apparently, he is last on the team in terms of &quot;penalty plus/minus,&quot; the amount of penalties drawn to the amount taken. He is at -6. (link in name) However, all of our defensemen are even or minus, probably because they don&#039;t have as much of a chance to draw penalties and are more in a position to have to correct for their mistakes. Surprisingly, Kalinin is our best defenseman, at even. It also says that Voros has drawn 23 penalties, but that probably includes fights and misconducts. Callahan is our best in penalty plus/minus at 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another knock against Redden: apparently, he is last on the team in terms of &#8220;penalty plus/minus,&#8221; the amount of penalties drawn to the amount taken. He is at -6. (link in name) However, all of our defensemen are even or minus, probably because they don&#8217;t have as much of a chance to draw penalties and are more in a position to have to correct for their mistakes. Surprisingly, Kalinin is our best defenseman, at even. It also says that Voros has drawn 23 penalties, but that probably includes fights and misconducts. Callahan is our best in penalty plus/minus at 9.</p>
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		<title>By: UKRanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKRanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems gone are the days of friendly debate and discussion of potential lines and trade moves and development of young players etc...
Now all you guys want to do is sit around and call each other derogatory names because you can&#039;t understand that its human nature to have different opinions. We&#039;re not all robots and we&#039;re not going to change our minds because of a few stats and use of the term &quot;end of.&quot; at the end of their post. Blogs are meant to be about points of view and each person&#039;s different opinions but so many of you small minded idiots can&#039;t deal with that.

On another note, for those of you that want to read about Renney calling out his players in the media - any coach who does that will have already &quot;lost the room&quot;. What a coach says to the media is nothing near what is said behind closed doors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems gone are the days of friendly debate and discussion of potential lines and trade moves and development of young players etc&#8230;<br />
Now all you guys want to do is sit around and call each other derogatory names because you can&#8217;t understand that its human nature to have different opinions. We&#8217;re not all robots and we&#8217;re not going to change our minds because of a few stats and use of the term &#8220;end of.&#8221; at the end of their post. Blogs are meant to be about points of view and each person&#8217;s different opinions but so many of you small minded idiots can&#8217;t deal with that.</p>
<p>On another note, for those of you that want to read about Renney calling out his players in the media &#8211; any coach who does that will have already &#8220;lost the room&#8221;. What a coach says to the media is nothing near what is said behind closed doors.</p>
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		<title>By: bklynblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>bklynblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAM get ready for the dolan treatment of the media. Just like he did to the guys covering the knicks. It&#039;s all you and your fellow writers&#039; fault for the PP and whatever goes wrong. And it&#039;s also the players. But it&#039;s never Pearn, Pelino, or Renney, asnd no way Sather&#039;s. But it is the fans&#039;. Renney has gone over the line in desparation . Don&#039;t let him intimidate and get away with  it. Remind him of freedom of the press.Let him start talking about the refs and his assistants along with himself. Put the mirror up! He should blame Sather if he has the gonads to. It&#039;s not his problem, so he seems to be saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAM get ready for the dolan treatment of the media. Just like he did to the guys covering the knicks. It&#8217;s all you and your fellow writers&#8217; fault for the PP and whatever goes wrong. And it&#8217;s also the players. But it&#8217;s never Pearn, Pelino, or Renney, asnd no way Sather&#8217;s. But it is the fans&#8217;. Renney has gone over the line in desparation . Don&#8217;t let him intimidate and get away with  it. Remind him of freedom of the press.Let him start talking about the refs and his assistants along with himself. Put the mirror up! He should blame Sather if he has the gonads to. It&#8217;s not his problem, so he seems to be saying.</p>
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