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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/11/24/can-this-be-right/#comment-113056</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Salty do me a favor SHUT UP..
I like winning hockey.. I like playoff hockey..
those small, quick, hockey clubs get bounced out of the playoffs by the types of team we are trying to build here..
If you like the up tempo style so much go to the garden for knick games.. caused that worked well for the Suns.
Yea, good idea, lets adopt a style of play that opens up the ice and creates more shots for the opponent - which NEUTRALIZES OUR INHERENT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE - LUNQUIST.
Renney for Pres in 2016!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Salty do me a favor SHUT UP..<br />
I like winning hockey.. I like playoff hockey..<br />
those small, quick, hockey clubs get bounced out of the playoffs by the types of team we are trying to build here..<br />
If you like the up tempo style so much go to the garden for knick games.. caused that worked well for the Suns.<br />
Yea, good idea, lets adopt a style of play that opens up the ice and creates more shots for the opponent &#8211; which NEUTRALIZES OUR INHERENT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE &#8211; LUNQUIST.<br />
Renney for Pres in 2016!</p>
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		<title>By: Broadway Roe</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/11/24/can-this-be-right/#comment-113017</link>
		<dc:creator>Broadway Roe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, has anybody heard anything about Toys for Tots this year? 
It&#039;s one of my favorite Rangers events...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, has anybody heard anything about Toys for Tots this year? <br />
It&#8217;s one of my favorite Rangers events&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Beer Me!</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/11/24/can-this-be-right/#comment-113016</link>
		<dc:creator>Beer Me!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only have a minute here to pop in and say &quot;wasssssup&quot;.

If you play a puck possession style, you need puck possession players.  Without Gomer, you&#039;re missing your best puck-possessor.  He didn&#039;t score the game winner, or even a goal with a goalie in net.  But don&#039;t doubt what he brings to this team.  Hank &amp; Gomer...#&#039;s 1 &amp; 2 on the &#039;key players&#039; list for this team to play to its potential.

Some beauties by Hank last night, once again.

I hope Korpi keeps his good play up.  

BETTS!  Maybe the presence of the Great One rubbed off on him?  haha

My interviews went well yesterday, thanks for asking.  I&#039;ll be bogged down with work today with the incentive that if I complete it all, I get tomorrow off, and won&#039;t be back to work till next Monday.  Plus I have a wake to attend @ 3 today.

So no offense to anyone, but that&#039;s far more important than debating whether it matters which way you stay on top of the standings.

Have a happy Thanksgiving everyone.  Incase I&#039;m not around (which most likely I wont be) until next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only have a minute here to pop in and say &#8220;wasssssup&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you play a puck possession style, you need puck possession players.  Without Gomer, you&#8217;re missing your best puck-possessor.  He didn&#8217;t score the game winner, or even a goal with a goalie in net.  But don&#8217;t doubt what he brings to this team.  Hank &#038; Gomer&#8230;#&#8217;s 1 &#038; 2 on the &#8216;key players&#8217; list for this team to play to its potential.</p>
<p>Some beauties by Hank last night, once again.</p>
<p>I hope Korpi keeps his good play up.  </p>
<p>BETTS!  Maybe the presence of the Great One rubbed off on him?  haha</p>
<p>My interviews went well yesterday, thanks for asking.  I&#8217;ll be bogged down with work today with the incentive that if I complete it all, I get tomorrow off, and won&#8217;t be back to work till next Monday.  Plus I have a wake to attend @ 3 today.</p>
<p>So no offense to anyone, but that&#8217;s far more important than debating whether it matters which way you stay on top of the standings.</p>
<p>Have a happy Thanksgiving everyone.  Incase I&#8217;m not around (which most likely I wont be) until next week.</p>
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		<title>By: 22figure8</title>
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		<dc:creator>22figure8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW-I was thinking the same thing last night about Orr. Last year he sat occasionally, but this team is not tough enough for him to sit out. Voros can be a force some nights and invisible on the others. It&#039;s good to get a win but I think Weds is a big test. TB can&#039;t be too happy losing 3 to us already. Let&#039;s see how the Rangers respond after TB scores the first goal. I mean, lately, we never score first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW-I was thinking the same thing last night about Orr. Last year he sat occasionally, but this team is not tough enough for him to sit out. Voros can be a force some nights and invisible on the others. It&#8217;s good to get a win but I think Weds is a big test. TB can&#8217;t be too happy losing 3 to us already. Let&#8217;s see how the Rangers respond after TB scores the first goal. I mean, lately, we never score first.</p>
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		<title>By: cwgatti</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/11/24/can-this-be-right/#comment-113014</link>
		<dc:creator>cwgatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Orr
I don&#039;t think he will ever sit again after that Philly game he sat out when Fedoruk was running every Ranger and their mothers. He is the ONLY guy with balls on this team. And as far as I am concerned, he can play every night.

Was it me, or did Stall-Rozi pair play very well together last year? I ranted all summer that here would be no way Renney would split them up this season. Can anyone tell me WHY Renney was compelled to split these guys up? I think this pairing will help Rozy get back on track</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Orr<br />
I don&#8217;t think he will ever sit again after that Philly game he sat out when Fedoruk was running every Ranger and their mothers. He is the ONLY guy with balls on this team. And as far as I am concerned, he can play every night.</p>
<p>Was it me, or did Stall-Rozi pair play very well together last year? I ranted all summer that here would be no way Renney would split them up this season. Can anyone tell me WHY Renney was compelled to split these guys up? I think this pairing will help Rozy get back on track</p>
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		<title>By: bull dog line</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said lil joe,
from last nights game. the rangers now seem to have 2 4th lines, and if orr had done his job in the caps game (they ran hank twice) maybe dubi would not have had to fight carcillo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said lil joe,<br />
from last nights game. the rangers now seem to have 2 4th lines, and if orr had done his job in the caps game (they ran hank twice) maybe dubi would not have had to fight carcillo.</p>
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		<title>By: Salty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From LI Joe&#039;s link RE: Vancouver game:


*I’m not going to talk much about last nights disgraceful performance. I know that’s what you expect, but that’s not what you’re going to get. What you are going to get is a rant, a rant that has been a long time coming, a rant against Tom Renney. Renney supporters, look away now. Don’t bother reading this. It will just hurt your feelings, possibly make you cry, suck your thumb and sit in a corner rocking yourself to sleep saying “it’s not true, it’s not true”

This team has been playing like absolute crap for just about this entire season. Very few people will argue with this statement. They have played 3 superb games, against the Lightning in games 1 and 2, and against the Devils (the first time). Outside of those 3 games, they have been anywhere between mediocre, and out and out horrific. But, if you really look at this team, ask yourself, have they played good hockey during Tom Renneys tenure at all? I mean, seriously, ask yourself, how many players come here, and actually overperform, or improve on their career numbers? Scotty Gomez, down year, Chris Drury, down year, Markus Naslund, down year, etc etc etc. Really, outside of Jaromir Jagr during his first season, how many players actually put up numbers better than their career averages (not counting rookies who have no base line to compare to)? Even Sean Avery just basically put up the same totals he has always had, and everyone really thought he was flourishing here.

Can anyone answer this? How is it just about every single player that comes here sees their production go down. Does anyone even bother to ask themselves this anymore? Why is it ok to simply look at the win-loss record, and say, well, we must be a good team.

That is bullshit, plain and simple. We have been a winning team because of 2 reasons, and 2 reasons only. Jaromir Jagr, and Henrik Lundqvist. Both have been superhuman. Not superstar, not elite, damn near God-like in their performances here. We used to be a 2-man team, now, we are a 1-man team. Great.

“But Inferno, your stars should play like your stars, that’s how hockey works!” That is what I am sure some of the nay sayers are saying to themselves. But ask yourself this, shouldn’t a good coach be able to get SOME improvement from the other players in his lineup? Shouldn’t he be able to improve even 1 non superstar player? The fact of the matter is, every single player that has joined this club since Tom Renney took over, has seen their offensive production, as a whole, drop significantly during their tenure here. Gomez, Drury, Naslund, even Jagr when looked at a whole, Shanahan…literally every single player has had their production go down. And that is the mark of a bad coach. Or more specifically, a coach who is woefully mismanaging his talent set.

So that is really what this entire story is about isn’t it? Maximizing the talent set. Putting square pegs in square holes, putting round pegs in round holes, etc should be the way any NHL franchise is run. But not the New York Rangers, oh no, not by a long shot. What do the New York Rangers do? They have Glen Sather announce to the world that they want to get younger, faster, more up tempo, to mimic the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Detroit Red Wings, the Buffalo Sabres, and the Ottawa Senators. You have Glen Sather pick up Wade Redden, Marcus Naslund, Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, Nikolai Zherdev, Dan Frtische, to augment with players like Michal Rozsival, Dan Girardi, Lauri Korpikoski, Brandon Dubinsky, Nigel Dawes, Ryan Callahan… in short, all players who are either good outlet passers, or good skaters, picture perfect to play an up tempo 2-1-2 style of hockey. You have Tom Renney tell everyone he is open to changing up the team, to making them a little bit more wide open, and you see it beautifully executed in 2 games against the Tampa Bay Lightning where the Rangers were swarming like locusts, pressuring the hell out of the puck, causing turnovers all over the ice, forcing the puck to the high quality scoring areas with reckless abandon, and a team willing to take chances with the knowledge they have an all-world goaltender between the pipes. And then, they came back home, and everything changed.

Tom Renney, old reliable, went back to what he does best. Playing New Jersey Devils hockey. He has a team built, from top to bottom, to push the puck, and instead he has one of the smallest, fastest, weakest teams in the NHL play a 1-2-2 system, where the midgets never get a chance to push the puck up the ice, are always forced to dump, chase and cycle, whose lack of size and strength clearly show as the opposition effortlessly blasts our midgets into the boards, recover the puck, and push it back down our throats.

In order to play Tom Renney hockey, what you need is a Tom Renney team. A team of Blair Betts and Colton Orrs, a team with very little offensive creativity, but strength, and defensive responsibility, and who can play the cycle game. This is why the most consistent, best line out there game in and game out is the 4th line. Why? Because THAT is Tom Renney hockey. Boring, methodical, completely devoid of skill, encapsulated by bigger, stronger, players fighting through checks, getting the pucks to the net, and scoring garbage goals.

It sounds good in theory, but why the hell is the roster built this way then? Clearly there is a break down between what Glen Sather envisions this club, and what Tom Renney envisions this club. One sees it as an up tempo, Buffalo Sabres style club, the other sees it as a defensive, grinding New Jersey Devils style club. There is a massive disconnect, and it is clearly showing in the quality of play that is being shown to us on a nightly basis. The only player holding up his end of the bargain in this ballet of idiocy is Henrik Lundqvist, a player who is single handedly willing his team to victory. And when he wasn’t able to do so last night, a slaughter ensued.

A mark of a good coach is being able to see the roster he has, and to adjust HIMSELF to what he is given. If you are given a small team with speed and skill, you don’t play a 1-2-2, you play a 2-1-2. If you are given a slow lumbering team with a lot of strength, then you play the 1-2-2 to protect yourself from odd man rushers, and take advantage of your superior size and strength with a cycle game. Tom Renney, through 3+ years of coaching, has clearly shown he has zero creativity, and zero ability to adapt to his players.

Is he a players player coach? Sure. Do the players love the guy, and buy into his system? Absolutely. Is he the best man for the job? Until he is willing to realize the idiocy behind playing a defensive hockey style with speed skaters, the answer is unabashedly, NO.*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From LI Joe&#8217;s link RE: Vancouver game:</p>
<p>*I’m not going to talk much about last nights disgraceful performance. I know that’s what you expect, but that’s not what you’re going to get. What you are going to get is a rant, a rant that has been a long time coming, a rant against Tom Renney. Renney supporters, look away now. Don’t bother reading this. It will just hurt your feelings, possibly make you cry, suck your thumb and sit in a corner rocking yourself to sleep saying “it’s not true, it’s not true”</p>
<p>This team has been playing like absolute crap for just about this entire season. Very few people will argue with this statement. They have played 3 superb games, against the Lightning in games 1 and 2, and against the Devils (the first time). Outside of those 3 games, they have been anywhere between mediocre, and out and out horrific. But, if you really look at this team, ask yourself, have they played good hockey during Tom Renneys tenure at all? I mean, seriously, ask yourself, how many players come here, and actually overperform, or improve on their career numbers? Scotty Gomez, down year, Chris Drury, down year, Markus Naslund, down year, etc etc etc. Really, outside of Jaromir Jagr during his first season, how many players actually put up numbers better than their career averages (not counting rookies who have no base line to compare to)? Even Sean Avery just basically put up the same totals he has always had, and everyone really thought he was flourishing here.</p>
<p>Can anyone answer this? How is it just about every single player that comes here sees their production go down. Does anyone even bother to ask themselves this anymore? Why is it ok to simply look at the win-loss record, and say, well, we must be a good team.</p>
<p>That is bullshit, plain and simple. We have been a winning team because of 2 reasons, and 2 reasons only. Jaromir Jagr, and Henrik Lundqvist. Both have been superhuman. Not superstar, not elite, damn near God-like in their performances here. We used to be a 2-man team, now, we are a 1-man team. Great.</p>
<p>“But Inferno, your stars should play like your stars, that’s how hockey works!” That is what I am sure some of the nay sayers are saying to themselves. But ask yourself this, shouldn’t a good coach be able to get SOME improvement from the other players in his lineup? Shouldn’t he be able to improve even 1 non superstar player? The fact of the matter is, every single player that has joined this club since Tom Renney took over, has seen their offensive production, as a whole, drop significantly during their tenure here. Gomez, Drury, Naslund, even Jagr when looked at a whole, Shanahan…literally every single player has had their production go down. And that is the mark of a bad coach. Or more specifically, a coach who is woefully mismanaging his talent set.</p>
<p>So that is really what this entire story is about isn’t it? Maximizing the talent set. Putting square pegs in square holes, putting round pegs in round holes, etc should be the way any NHL franchise is run. But not the New York Rangers, oh no, not by a long shot. What do the New York Rangers do? They have Glen Sather announce to the world that they want to get younger, faster, more up tempo, to mimic the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Detroit Red Wings, the Buffalo Sabres, and the Ottawa Senators. You have Glen Sather pick up Wade Redden, Marcus Naslund, Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, Nikolai Zherdev, Dan Frtische, to augment with players like Michal Rozsival, Dan Girardi, Lauri Korpikoski, Brandon Dubinsky, Nigel Dawes, Ryan Callahan… in short, all players who are either good outlet passers, or good skaters, picture perfect to play an up tempo 2-1-2 style of hockey. You have Tom Renney tell everyone he is open to changing up the team, to making them a little bit more wide open, and you see it beautifully executed in 2 games against the Tampa Bay Lightning where the Rangers were swarming like locusts, pressuring the hell out of the puck, causing turnovers all over the ice, forcing the puck to the high quality scoring areas with reckless abandon, and a team willing to take chances with the knowledge they have an all-world goaltender between the pipes. And then, they came back home, and everything changed.</p>
<p>Tom Renney, old reliable, went back to what he does best. Playing New Jersey Devils hockey. He has a team built, from top to bottom, to push the puck, and instead he has one of the smallest, fastest, weakest teams in the NHL play a 1-2-2 system, where the midgets never get a chance to push the puck up the ice, are always forced to dump, chase and cycle, whose lack of size and strength clearly show as the opposition effortlessly blasts our midgets into the boards, recover the puck, and push it back down our throats.</p>
<p>In order to play Tom Renney hockey, what you need is a Tom Renney team. A team of Blair Betts and Colton Orrs, a team with very little offensive creativity, but strength, and defensive responsibility, and who can play the cycle game. This is why the most consistent, best line out there game in and game out is the 4th line. Why? Because THAT is Tom Renney hockey. Boring, methodical, completely devoid of skill, encapsulated by bigger, stronger, players fighting through checks, getting the pucks to the net, and scoring garbage goals.</p>
<p>It sounds good in theory, but why the hell is the roster built this way then? Clearly there is a break down between what Glen Sather envisions this club, and what Tom Renney envisions this club. One sees it as an up tempo, Buffalo Sabres style club, the other sees it as a defensive, grinding New Jersey Devils style club. There is a massive disconnect, and it is clearly showing in the quality of play that is being shown to us on a nightly basis. The only player holding up his end of the bargain in this ballet of idiocy is Henrik Lundqvist, a player who is single handedly willing his team to victory. And when he wasn’t able to do so last night, a slaughter ensued.</p>
<p>A mark of a good coach is being able to see the roster he has, and to adjust HIMSELF to what he is given. If you are given a small team with speed and skill, you don’t play a 1-2-2, you play a 2-1-2. If you are given a slow lumbering team with a lot of strength, then you play the 1-2-2 to protect yourself from odd man rushers, and take advantage of your superior size and strength with a cycle game. Tom Renney, through 3+ years of coaching, has clearly shown he has zero creativity, and zero ability to adapt to his players.</p>
<p>Is he a players player coach? Sure. Do the players love the guy, and buy into his system? Absolutely. Is he the best man for the job? Until he is willing to realize the idiocy behind playing a defensive hockey style with speed skaters, the answer is unabashedly, NO.*</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.rangersreview.com/

scroll down to his write up of the vanc game. those who are anti renney will love it</description>
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<p>scroll down to his write up of the vanc game. those who are anti renney will love it</p>
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		<title>By: All Hail King Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Hail King Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was very nice to see Hank bounce back from the Vancouver game with a great performance.  If he didn&#039;t make those saves in the first, this game would have been out of hand quickly, and en route to a final score similar to Vancouver and Ottawa (It conceivably could have been 3-1 after the first).

Zherdev played an amazing game; one of his best games thus far as a Ranger, if not his best.  He is definitely the best forward on this team, and may well be the best passer on this team as well (isn&#039;t Gomez supposed to be that guy?).  He is our top offensive threat and Renney needs to start playing him 18-21 minutes a night (especially a game like tonight with few penalties).

Dubi! Great game with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick. He hasn&#039;t been the same player since the first Islanders game, hopefully this game will get him back to where he was the first 10 games of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was very nice to see Hank bounce back from the Vancouver game with a great performance.  If he didn&#8217;t make those saves in the first, this game would have been out of hand quickly, and en route to a final score similar to Vancouver and Ottawa (It conceivably could have been 3-1 after the first).</p>
<p>Zherdev played an amazing game; one of his best games thus far as a Ranger, if not his best.  He is definitely the best forward on this team, and may well be the best passer on this team as well (isn&#8217;t Gomez supposed to be that guy?).  He is our top offensive threat and Renney needs to start playing him 18-21 minutes a night (especially a game like tonight with few penalties).</p>
<p>Dubi! Great game with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick. He hasn&#8217;t been the same player since the first Islanders game, hopefully this game will get him back to where he was the first 10 games of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: All Hail King Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Hail King Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above all, I&#039;ll take the win.  With the way they&#039;ve been playing, it&#039;s nice to win and also win by a decent margin of 4-1.

The score really should have been 3-1 or 4-1 PHX after the first period, though.  They allowed THREE PRIME scoring chances in the first five minutes, all off of turnovers. 

Turnovers are what is costing this team victories; especially defensive and neutral zone turnovers.  It&#039;s a glaring problem that needs to be addressed.

All that said, after the first ten minutes they played a pretty good game.  It&#039;s definitely a step towards getting back to how they were playing in the beginning of the season.  A win is a win is a win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above all, I&#8217;ll take the win.  With the way they&#8217;ve been playing, it&#8217;s nice to win and also win by a decent margin of 4-1.</p>
<p>The score really should have been 3-1 or 4-1 PHX after the first period, though.  They allowed THREE PRIME scoring chances in the first five minutes, all off of turnovers. </p>
<p>Turnovers are what is costing this team victories; especially defensive and neutral zone turnovers.  It&#8217;s a glaring problem that needs to be addressed.</p>
<p>All that said, after the first ten minutes they played a pretty good game.  It&#8217;s definitely a step towards getting back to how they were playing in the beginning of the season.  A win is a win is a win.</p>
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