Comments on: Statement game? (Updated)

By: Salty

Salty — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:48:48 +0000

If they’re still playing like this in 2 weeks, then start the panic.

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thats what they said 2 weeks ago…

By: SteveTheBear

SteveTheBear — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:49:06 +0000

The real problem is that if this team misses the post-season (and it is time to start speculating about a complete collapse, which is already underway)————————————————————————————————————————————————Jesus, have any of you sports n00bs ever seen a slump?! Was your expectation going into the season to never hit any rough patches? To never see uninspired hockey? All teams fall into stretches where they look like shit and play like shit. If they’re still playing like this in 2 weeks, then start the panic.

By: True Fans Bleed RW&B

True Fans Bleed RW&B — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:13:16 +0000

I read alot of these posts, some good, others ordinary (ie. guided by the likes of Joe, Sam R, and Sam W). Don’t just believe what your told people, think, question, test…

Staal Wart: “the best coaches and teachers I’ve had in my life have been the ones who support you and encourage thru thick and thin. The worst coaches and teachers I’ve had have been the ones who ride your ass about everything.”
...which is why Zherdev and Dubinsky got the shaft after sneazing into the wind. Give me a break. Renney’s an azz-clown who COINCIDENTALLY found lundqvist (after Weekes 3 injuries). Renney has never groomed a young player into a stud. Messier hated him and now I see why. He’s completely stunted Dubi’s growth and I fear he’s the same reason Tyutin, Girardi, and Prucha have all gotten worse under him.

Renney only has the “vets” backs. He loves Rozy, Drury, Gomez, and the like…he loved Weekes. He has a nack for loving bad players AND good players who are playing poorly. YET, the rookies are the guys who “must be held accountable.” Really?! Why must Dubinsky and Z be held accountable for 3 bad penalties when Drury can loaf it on two shorthanded goals in one game and stilll see more ice time the next game?! Why can Rozy loaf it for 2.5 years and get an F’ing raise?! Don’t tell me Renney’s a good teacher, I can’t think of one player he’s actually helped.

As far as the real root our problems – its this team being so tight (in “the system”) and the terrible defensive lapses. Breakaway after breakaway. Odd man rushes gallore. Get a clue guys! Renney, sit some of these chumps!! The team can score at will when they need to, we’ve seen 2-3 goals put in the net the last 15-20 minutes of games. They can score at will. But what about that “accountability?” Why aren’t players making the egregious turnovers being taken to task? Why isn’t there a 7th defenseman on this team?

Last point, and I just can’t read anymore of it, Betts, Orr, and Shjoestrom do their jobs and pretty damn well. They aren’t scorers and they have contributed some big goals. They’re playing alot, and if you have a problem with that – BLAME RENNEY!! He plays the 4th line that much time. As for the players, they work hard and do their jobs well. They play the top lines of other teams most nights and they hold their own…working hard, holding their own, earning their pay checks, not necessarily the things you can say about much of the rest of this pathetic club.

But the problems ALL stem from Renney.

By: Notorious B.O.B.

Notorious B.O.B. — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:34:37 +0000

Also I want to point out that Callahan is clueless offensively, he has a 4th liner mentality, he goes into the offensive zone and does not try to make an offensive play he just shoots the puck from ANYWHERE like a moron. Never tries to get closer for a better shot, never tries passing to anyone. I blame Renney, because Callahan must be really scared of losing his job if he turns the puck over that he doesn’t have a shred of creativity in his offense. And pretty much same applies to many of our forwards. Renney is ruining our players, especially young forwards. Renney needs to decide whether his forwards’ job is to score or be just try and not make any mistakes.

By: Notorious B.O.B.

Notorious B.O.B. — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:23:22 +0000

Honestly what did they expect from Hartley when their forwards were something like:

Kovalchuk-Kozlov-Hossa
Perrin-White-Dupuis
Slater-Holik-Thorburn
Boulton-Little-Larsen

Who in their mind would be surprised by a 0-6-0 start?

But here is a shocker: even with that lineup they scored more goals last season than:

Straka-Dubinsky-Jagr
Avery-Gomez-Shanahan
Dawrs-Drury-Callahan
Prucha-Betts-Hollweg/Orr/Sjostrom/Hossa

and all this while having 2 defensemen with double digits in goals. While the Thrashers entire defense only scored 13 goals which is how much Rozsival alone scored. This should give you a clue how badly Renney’s forwards are underperforming. Fire this idiot and bring in a real coach like Hartley.

By: Notorious B.O.B.

Notorious B.O.B. — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:07:18 +0000

Bob Hartley, who won a Cup both in AHL and in NHL got fired after starting 0-6 with a crappy team, with crappy goaltending. Renney had several losing streaks of around 8 games in previous years with a star laden team and he is untouchable. Can you imagine if Hartley and Renney switched teams. And while Hartley’s inferior team, especially goaltending wise was swept by Renney’s team, the Thrashers thoroughly outhit the Rangers, if only they had better goaltending and a more depth.

By: Mike in IA

Mike in IA — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:40:42 +0000

yea u hate the 1 guy that brings the cup to ny after 54v years.lol

By: Mike in IA

Mike in IA — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:37:52 +0000

i hate when people blame the gms for not pickin certain players in the draft. 1 example is henrik lundqvist. 7th round! its a crapshoot guys. its not like these guys are automatic garaunteed superstars. whats stamkos got 5 points? i hate how they hype these guys and put so much pressure on them.

By: Salty

Salty — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:29:18 +0000

By the way:

Keenan brought The Cup to NY, you cheerleader…

Your post is… embarrassing to say the least.

“They’re people too!! With FEELINGS! My favorite teachers are the ones who told me I could be anything I want!”

Dude… I can’t say I’ve ever really respected your posts or concepts… But my gut tells me you just lost a bunch of people with that post… You’re saying you see NOTHING wrong with the downward spiral this team is on? Sorry man… I know I’m more negative and abrasive than most… But to honestly say you don’t understand people getting on Renney at this point… And that you don’t think anything needs to drastically change… You are exactly the kind of fan the rest of us are laughing at right now… You don’t really want to win and are happy just to have a chance at the playoffs.

By: Salty

Salty — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:23:28 +0000

Renney NEVER has his players’ backs.

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lol…you’re not smart

GardenFaithful… I agree… The team was running on all cylinders to start the season… where you would expect them to come together even more over time, we have seen just the opposite…. it really seems the more time all the new faces spend together under Renney…. the worse they are as a team…

This team would probably better without any coach at all, still not saying much though.