Comments on: Reunion week at the Garden

By: Mike in IA

Mike in IA — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:32:21 +0000

newman ur absolutely right. look at ovechkin, he just started scorin recently and i think has as many goals as drury. now i know he’ll end up with more but the point is, alot of these high skilled players that we see during highlights makin great passes and goals and saves etc… and we dont realize that the same guy who scored that fancy goal or whatever is not doin that the entire game, game in game out. i could see if we were losing than yea id be worried but even as we’re not playing a full 60 minute effort and at times it gets frustrating, its still the early part of the season and we have played more games than anyone. these guys arent robots thats what makes the game interesting is to not now who will be the hero for the next game. who’s gonna step up and spark the team onto a win. its funny how preconceptions of say redden thought of as our pp qb when we signed him and realized that he really isnt. the 1 thing that scares me right now is our pp. i think its horrible that we gave up 6 shortys already and cant score hardly when were up a man. i honestly think its the lack of a pp qb. redden isnt it. maybe he was at 1 point in his career but not with this team and system. anybody remember campbell when we played chicago? he was what we needed but instead we got a slightly above average offensive d man in redden and a resigned rozy who actually is better than redden as far as offense goes. dont get mad cuz they took the money sather threw at them. get mad because our expectations were too high and they just cant perform to their high salary. blame sather for overpaying

By: Leetchhalloffame

Leetchhalloffame — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:11:45 +0000

It was a disgrace that Renney chose not to give Korpedo any OT ice time the other night after he was one of the best players on ice. Imagine the confidence builder it could have been for him. Although Betts played well also he can’t put the puck in the ocean so why is he out there in OT? How about also trying Korpedo in a shootout? I’m not saying he’s the second coming of Gretzky but he ain’t chopped liver either. He will be a big part of this team’s future.

By: Mike in IA

Mike in IA — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:05:09 +0000

li joe, yea i was a hockey player during my teen n early 20’s and i know that if i was playin at the garden and the fans booed me for an almost uncontrollable mistake like the 2nd goal then id be playin scared too. it just doesnt help. he knows hes playin like shit. its kinda like when youre havin a rough day at work and ya got everybody gettin on your nerves and then u get home and your wife bitches about everything and so on. i dont really know the reason for the wierd contract with him but he should be playin harder and i do see he takes shifts off alot. thats rozy. unless renney threatens his ice time it wont change much. i think rozy was never more than a #3-4 d man and was forced into a higher role. and flynn, i know he hasnt played good and it pisses me off too but booing him everytime hes out there is not gonna help him. in fact its embarrassing for me to even hear on the tv imagine what rozy and even the other players feel? everybody forgets that he scored the tying goal against the devils and he shot it on the PP!! i think he might need to hear some encouragement from the fans especially since that 2nd goal was an easy stop for hank it just so happened to come off rozys bad play. how many times has any other player given the puck up and hank saved the day. because of that nobody remembers.

By: JJP

JJP — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:01:48 +0000

People definitely expect too much – perfection every single night. The journalists jumping all over Roszival is a great example. Every top d-man gets beat at some point, whether he’s Lidstrom or Kalinin. Some nights, one of your top d-men is going to get schooled more than once in a game. Its a long season, it happens.

I think fans have to develop some common sense. The team is going to lose games. Those losses are most likely going to be due to mistakes. As a fan, I just hope that the guys who are veterans like Roszival bounce back like they should and that the coaches/vets teach the younger guys what they did wrong.

The knee-jerk reaction on this board of “trade everyone” after each game is dull and shows the lack of understanding of what makes a successfull season…

By: KingFan

KingFan — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:56:20 +0000

Deja,
Met Lundqvist in Armonk – he was on time!!!

By: New Newman

New Newman — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:52:00 +0000

Here is the question I was pondering over the weekend, especially after seeing Saturday’s gritty comeback….

Are we demanding too much of all of our players? Here is why I came to this question: When we see other players on other teams, we always wonder how great it would be to have them on our team. Aside from the top 100 or 150 players in the league (roughly 3 to 5 on each team), the rest of the players seem very hit or miss on any given night. I mean when Kalinan was on the Sabres and we saw him 2 or 3x a year, he looked pretty good. I thought, “Gee I would like to have him in a Blueshirt.” Now that he is here, and we see him daily, I am not so sure I was right in my original view. But then I wonder, “Do I expect him to play flawlessly like I thought I saw him play 2 or 3x last season?” Then I also wonder if that was the case, why would Buffalo let him go?

Like how did we miss out on Zdeno Chara after he was on the Isles and the Sens? Did we just pick the wrong D-man to go after?

Now to Roszival. What would the upgrade be? And how much would it cost? Would we then say that whomever is his replacement sucks or is clearly not worth the scratch we paid? I don’t know. It’s not an easy answer. Is there just a real dearth of quality D-men making more than $3 or $4mm who are THAT good day-in and day-out?

My point is not whether we should boo Rosy. The point is that I am just wondering if any player is as good as we expect him to be? Look at Drury. Guys on this blog want to kill him 80% of the time. Then he scores 7 goals in 3 games (during the first 18 or whatever) and scores a critical shootout goal and all of a sudden he is the man, or at least redeemed himself. Or is he just back to average, in terms of his salary and what we expect of him?

What about Redden? We have that jerkweed for 6 years and he is MAYBE our 4th best D-man now (at least Staal, Mara, Girardi playing better). Didn’t he look SOOO good on the Sens and the Isles? Did we just not see him playing every day and that is why we were not as nervous about him as we are right now? Did the scouts not do their job? Did the team pay up for him something he didn’t deserve? As fans all we can do is bitch and moan (and “boo”).

I don’t know the answer but I keep thinking about, “Nothing is as good as it ever seems and nothing is as bad as it ever seems.”

All this babbling aside, the NYR keep winning games and showing grit. That I like. They look sloppy and lazy when they don’t try. That I don’t like. Do I like this team in a 7 game series? Not sure yet.

By: 22figure8

22figure8 — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:39:50 +0000

Maybe Malik wasn’t so bad, he was paired with Rozy.

By: Beer Me!

Beer Me! — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:12:50 +0000

I understand the reasoning for Renney to defend Rozy. Don’t have to look to far for a prime example to do so either. OTT fans tore down Redden last year until the last opportunity they had. The coaching staff (while a f’n mess, in and of itself) did nothing to protect any of it’s players from the harsh candian-hockey media, the fans, or even the players and each other for that matter. Even going so far as to pile a large part of it on 2-3 players. It didn’t work. In fact, they’re worse without those players. They should have at least tried to deflect some of it, and spread it around.

While I understand the ‘defense’, rozy just plain had a horrible game. A goal tonight, a perfectly-timed blocked shot, just about anything positive could get him back on the right track. But there’s no secret that he’s had a bad stretch, and hasn’t done much to live up to his contract. He was an inconsistant player before his payday. What should make any of us think he wouldn’t be after?

Whatever…still 1st in the East. Still finding new ways to win games, this time without your #1 center. There are too many positives in Rangerland to dwell on a player in a slump.

By: theflynn

theflynn — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:51:15 +0000

A few things

MIke from IA

Sorry…Roszival has been inept for several seasons, and he’s locked into that what one writer called a patty cake style of PP. He also takes way too many of the cheapo penalties stemming from lazy feet, ( hooking, holding, interference etc.)And who can overlook his idiotic clearing passes made softly in his own zone which invariably alight on an opponent’s stick. There’s just way too much of this for the past few years now, to think that fans are just now booing him for present errors. It’s a long accumulation that is now coming to a head. The fans are fed up with his and Renney’s nonsense.

Tampa vs Canes:

Oh Boy. Tocchet is going to an improvement on Melrose? I doubt it.
How about his shoot out lineup? He leaves St Louis off of his initial 3 shooters, and never gets to him. Canes wipe them out toot sweet.

By: Smitty

Smitty — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:13:09 +0000

Would you apes get off of Rozsival’s back already? The second blunder wasn’t even a mental error, it was just a combination of bad luck and bad puck control as the puck hopped over his stick and between his feet. The puck was hopping around like a tennis ball all night on that awful ice.