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		<title>By: KPH</title>
		<link>http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/11/14/has-sather-cemented-his-legacy-that-depends/#comment-110397</link>
		<dc:creator>KPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ORR:

I see what you are saying, but even then I think that the only move you bring up that Sather deserves credit for is Carter for Jagr.  (But, even that deal followed Sather&#039;s pre-lockout M.O.: bring in vets making tonsof cash who are probably past their prime.  Credit to Jagr for working out, but the philosophy of getting him in the first place was consistent with Sather&#039;s other pre-lockout moves, which on the whole, were disasterous.) 

Avery, Zherdev, and Voros are all post-salary cap moves.  This proves my point.  The salary cap imposed fiscal responsibility on Sather that he doesn&#039;t otherwise have.  If Sather was allowed to use the full force of the Cablevision pocketbook, do you really think he would have settled for Avery, Zherdev, or Voros?  Probably not--he would have gone for the biggest name (which comes along with the biggest price) rather than being forced to actually figure out who would bring him the most value.  These were all great moves, but in the absence of the salary cap, I don&#039;t think Sather would have made them.</description>
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<p>I see what you are saying, but even then I think that the only move you bring up that Sather deserves credit for is Carter for Jagr.  (But, even that deal followed Sather&#8217;s pre-lockout M.O.: bring in vets making tonsof cash who are probably past their prime.  Credit to Jagr for working out, but the philosophy of getting him in the first place was consistent with Sather&#8217;s other pre-lockout moves, which on the whole, were disasterous.) </p>
<p>Avery, Zherdev, and Voros are all post-salary cap moves.  This proves my point.  The salary cap imposed fiscal responsibility on Sather that he doesn&#8217;t otherwise have.  If Sather was allowed to use the full force of the Cablevision pocketbook, do you really think he would have settled for Avery, Zherdev, or Voros?  Probably not&#8212;he would have gone for the biggest name (which comes along with the biggest price) rather than being forced to actually figure out who would bring him the most value.  These were all great moves, but in the absence of the salary cap, I don&#8217;t think Sather would have made them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaspar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaspar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And dont forget bertuzzi signing

burke did not do a great job of reading the future over last two yeras 
(not that Slats redden and Rozy signings are Kreskin like either)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And dont forget bertuzzi signing</p>
<p>burke did not do a great job of reading the future over last two yeras <br />
(not that Slats redden and Rozy signings are Kreskin like either)</p>
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		<title>By: Kaspar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaspar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait awhile on Burke well ya!

Burke didnt sign Getzlaf that was all Murray&#039;s doings (Perry, Getzlaf, Macdonald,Giguere etc... all that was pre-Burke)He was still screwing up Canucks at that point I belive

Free agent signings like Nieds and Prongs you dont get genius labels for, sorry...nobody called Steinbrenner a genius for signing Reggie and Goose did they?

The one &quot;great&#039; thing was talking Jackets into taking Federov (and grabbing Buecheman in return)

but he&#039;s almost ruined that in last two years with Macdonald for Weight? And realistically keeping space for Selanne when he could have signed Penner

plus he&#039;s a cretin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait awhile on Burke well ya!</p>
<p>Burke didnt sign Getzlaf that was all Murray&#8217;s doings (Perry, Getzlaf, Macdonald,Giguere etc&#8230; all that was pre-Burke)He was still screwing up Canucks at that point I belive</p>
<p>Free agent signings like Nieds and Prongs you dont get genius labels for, sorry&#8230;nobody called Steinbrenner a genius for signing Reggie and Goose did they?</p>
<p>The one &#8220;great&#8217; thing was talking Jackets into taking Federov (and grabbing Buecheman in return)</p>
<p>but he&#8217;s almost ruined that in last two years with Macdonald for Weight? And realistically keeping space for Selanne when he could have signed Penner</p>
<p>plus he&#8217;s a cretin</p>
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		<title>By: yessiree bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>yessiree bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good, I hope Burke replaces Sather, maybe then Burke fires Renney.

And trade Rozsival and Gomez already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good, I hope Burke replaces Sather, maybe then Burke fires Renney.</p>
<p>And trade Rozsival and Gomez already.</p>
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		<title>By: Beer Me!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beer Me!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW.  I don&#039;t even know where to start or begin.

Read the last 4-5 entries (sams&#039;s) since the in-game on wednesday night.

1st, great win.  Actually found the game on tv in atlanta at a bar suggested by one of &#039;us&#039; here.  They had the STL/BUF game on also.  Who knew hockey was so popular in ATL?  They just don&#039;t realize they have their own team.

2nd, get well soon Gomer.

3rd, great video from the beloved Puck Daddy Blog.  Love that site, often link to it.

4th, screw the devils.

5th, On Sather...I wouldn&#039;t mind Burke coming in.  He has a STELLAR track record of finding young talent.  There are lots of similarities in the types of players he drafts to Dubi.  Sather&#039;s buried the team, and dug them back up.  Some of the best deals the franchise has ever seen, and some of the worst decisions the sport has ever seen.  Make of it what you will.

6th, The naked guy ads are gross.

7th, Was that the spark the PP needed to find their &#039;rythm&#039;?  Is there any link to the absence of Scotty?  Not to put it on him at all, but I don&#039;t think the question is too far fetched.  Then again, it WAS Kevin Weeks.  Ok, I&#039;ll just stick to that first question.

8th, This chicken ceasar salad is pretty good.

9th, Couldn&#039;t hear the game the other night.  I&#039;m assuming an ice pack to the back of the head is all Dubi needed.  Looked pretty scary at first.

10th, and finally...don&#039;t know why I numbered my thoughts...

Can someone look up the last time the Rangers spent this many calendar days at #1 in the Atlantic/Patrick Div?

OH YEAH...  AND...   J! E! T! S!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW.  I don&#8217;t even know where to start or begin.</p>
<p>Read the last 4-5 entries (sams&#8217;s) since the in-game on wednesday night.</p>
<p>1st, great win.  Actually found the game on tv in atlanta at a bar suggested by one of &#8216;us&#8217; here.  They had the STL/BUF game on also.  Who knew hockey was so popular in ATL?  They just don&#8217;t realize they have their own team.</p>
<p>2nd, get well soon Gomer.</p>
<p>3rd, great video from the beloved Puck Daddy Blog.  Love that site, often link to it.</p>
<p>4th, screw the devils.</p>
<p>5th, On Sather&#8230;I wouldn&#8217;t mind Burke coming in.  He has a STELLAR track record of finding young talent.  There are lots of similarities in the types of players he drafts to Dubi.  Sather&#8217;s buried the team, and dug them back up.  Some of the best deals the franchise has ever seen, and some of the worst decisions the sport has ever seen.  Make of it what you will.</p>
<p>6th, The naked guy ads are gross.</p>
<p>7th, Was that the spark the PP needed to find their &#8216;rythm&#8217;?  Is there any link to the absence of Scotty?  Not to put it on him at all, but I don&#8217;t think the question is too far fetched.  Then again, it WAS Kevin Weeks.  Ok, I&#8217;ll just stick to that first question.</p>
<p>8th, This chicken ceasar salad is pretty good.</p>
<p>9th, Couldn&#8217;t hear the game the other night.  I&#8217;m assuming an ice pack to the back of the head is all Dubi needed.  Looked pretty scary at first.</p>
<p>10th, and finally&#8230;don&#8217;t know why I numbered my thoughts&#8230;</p>
<p>Can someone look up the last time the Rangers spent this many calendar days at #1 in the Atlantic/Patrick Div?</p>
<p>OH YEAH&#8230;  AND&#8230;   J! E! T! S!</p>
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		<title>By: doogie747</title>
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		<dc:creator>doogie747</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and what so great about Burke ?&quot;

Nothing really....the core Ducks were in place when he got there....(Bryan Murray drafts and signings.....key stat 16 of the 21 Ducks were Canadian

Burke does have roots in Boston....Maple Leaf Sports has egos just like at MSG (read:also watching questioning etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and what so great about Burke ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing really&#8230;.the core Ducks were in place when he got there&#8230;.(Bryan Murray drafts and signings&#8230;..key stat 16 of the 21 Ducks were Canadian</p>
<p>Burke does have roots in Boston&#8230;.Maple Leaf Sports has egos just like at MSG (read:also watching questioning etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: onecupin67years</title>
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		<dc:creator>onecupin67years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think Sather was a genius winning with 99,11 and co. in Edmonton.
 
Let him do it in NY (cup) or a final or two then I&#039;ll give him credit.
 I think Lou Lamoriello skates circles around Sather . Sather has an unlimited budget, idiots for owners and whomever he wants to sign.
Lou won with a limited budget, no overpriced free agents, average to good players (2 HOF players Stevens and Broduer )he tells them &quot;so long, bye,bye &quot; and still won 3 cups since 95.

 But if Sather  leaves and the Rangers don&#039;t win, do you sign Burke for big bucks? Or clean house and give him big bucks ,too.
and what so great about Burke ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think Sather was a genius winning with 99,11 and co. in Edmonton.</p>
<p>Let him do it in NY (cup) or a final or two then I&#8217;ll give him credit.</p>
<p> I think Lou Lamoriello skates circles around Sather . Sather has an unlimited budget, idiots for owners and whomever he wants to sign.<br />
Lou won with a limited budget, no overpriced free agents, average to good players (2 HOF players Stevens and Broduer )he tells them &#8220;so long, bye,bye &#8221; and still won 3 cups since 95.</p>
<p> But if Sather  leaves and the Rangers don&#8217;t win, do you sign Burke for big bucks? Or clean house and give him big bucks ,too.<br />
and what so great about Burke ?</p>
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		<title>By: loneranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>loneranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: The possibility of Sather relinquishing his GM role.  What about Jim Schoenfeld, who quietly has been doing a great job as Asst. GM &amp; Player Development. He&#039;s responsible for many of our prospects coming down from Hartford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The possibility of Sather relinquishing his GM role.  What about Jim Schoenfeld, who quietly has been doing a great job as Asst. GM &#038; Player Development. He&#8217;s responsible for many of our prospects coming down from Hartford.</p>
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		<title>By: blurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>blurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s Ulf Samuellson on defensemen today:

&quot;...nowadays you need pure skating skills if you’re a defenseman. You can’t get by with grit and hard-nosed play. You need to be able to dance with the forwards or you won’t be able to stay in the league. Simply, you need to be an exceptional skater in today’s NHL.&quot;
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/19910-Ulf-Samuelssons-Blog-Playing-D-in-the-new-NHL.html

So, who does Sather sign in the off season?  Lead legged Redden not swift (legs and head) Rozsival.  

Slats sucks.  Biggest. Fraud. Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s Ulf Samuellson on defensemen today:</p>
<p>&#8221;...nowadays you need pure skating skills if you’re a defenseman. You can’t get by with grit and hard-nosed play. You need to be able to dance with the forwards or you won’t be able to stay in the league. Simply, you need to be an exceptional skater in today’s NHL.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/19910-Ulf-Samuelssons-Blog-Playing-D-in-the-new-NHL.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/19910-Ulf-Samuelssons-Blog-Playing-D-in-the-new-NHL.html</a></p>
<p>So, who does Sather sign in the off season?  Lead legged Redden not swift (legs and head) Rozsival.  </p>
<p>Slats sucks.  Biggest. Fraud. Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: blurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>blurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sather led teams in the last 14 seasons have won 3 playoff series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sather led teams in the last 14 seasons have won 3 playoff series.</p>
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