Comments on: As the world turns, Patrick Rissmiller remains in limbo http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/ News and insight about the New York Rangers Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:40:18 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jeever http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106666 Jeever Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:10:36 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106666 JJP - Dustin Penner. Went from Anaheim to Edmonton on a restricted FA offer sheet. Also, for those that DO match, usually its for higher amounts than they wanted to sign the person for, so it kills cap space. Like that Vanek offer sheet. That dude was just not worth 7M a year when that contract was signed. JJP – Dustin Penner. Went from Anaheim to Edmonton on a restricted FA offer sheet.

Also, for those that DO match, usually its for higher amounts than they wanted to sign the person for, so it kills cap space. Like that Vanek offer sheet. That dude was just not worth 7M a year when that contract was signed.

]]> By: Please http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106663 Please Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:01:20 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106663 you guys dont know anything about hockey relax "superfans" you guys dont know anything about hockey relax “superfans”

]]> By: meg http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106661 meg Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:42:50 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106661 Cherepanov was drug-free (as if there was really any doubt): http://www.beyondtheblueshirts.com/2008/10/drug-tests-reveal-cherepanov-was-clean/ Cherepanov was drug-free (as if there was really any doubt): http://www.beyondtheblueshirts.com/2008/10/drug-tests-reveal-cherepanov-was-clean/

]]> By: Cakewalk http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106655 Cakewalk Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:07:05 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106655 Sorry to belabor the point regarding corruption and fixes in sports, but I heard something incredible and at first, seemingly unbelieveable, via the internet, over WIP 610 Sports Radio in Philadelphia, yesterday. 3 PM - 7 PM host Howard Eskin reported that Las Vegas and all of Nevada is already paying off on the Philadelphia Phillies winning the World Series "because the Phillies were leading after five innings, and the fifth inning was the final complete inning played before the game was suspended." So even if Tampa Bay comes back to win this series, Nevada is paying off on Philadelphia and all bets on TB are null and void = losers. The real reason for this is simply because Nevada stood to get crushed if it had to pay off on Tampa Bay winning the series. Tampa Bay does have a good chance to come back and win it all, now that the umpires have succeeded in their mission of leaning over backwards to help the Nevada Sports Books, which obviously either paid off the umpires, or threatened them. Look for the umpires to be either impartial or making make up calls on behalf of Tampa Bay, for the duration, however long or short, now that they are off the hook. Sort of stinks doesn't it? Sorry to belabor the point regarding corruption and fixes in sports, but I heard something incredible and at first, seemingly unbelieveable, via the internet, over WIP 610 Sports Radio in Philadelphia, yesterday. 3 PM – 7 PM host Howard Eskin reported that Las Vegas and all of Nevada is already paying off on the Philadelphia Phillies winning the World Series “because the Phillies were leading after five innings, and the fifth inning was the final complete inning played before the game was suspended.” So even if Tampa Bay comes back to win this series, Nevada is paying off on Philadelphia and all bets on TB are null and void = losers.

The real reason for this is simply because Nevada stood to get crushed if it had to pay off on Tampa Bay winning the series. Tampa Bay does have a good chance to come back and win it all, now that the umpires have succeeded in their mission of leaning over backwards to help the Nevada Sports Books, which obviously either paid off the umpires, or threatened them. Look for the umpires to be either impartial or making make up calls on behalf of Tampa Bay, for the duration, however long or short, now that they are off the hook. Sort of stinks doesn’t it?

]]> By: JJP http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106654 JJP Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:06:22 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106654 It's funny that people somehow think we're going to lose Dubinsky, name me one restricted guy that got an offer sheet for serious dollars and actually wound up on the team that signed him without the player's original team matching or resigning prior? It’s funny that people somehow think we’re going to lose Dubinsky, name me one restricted guy that got an offer sheet for serious dollars and actually wound up on the team that signed him without the player’s original team matching or resigning prior?

]]> By: What the HECK http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106652 What the HECK Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:36:30 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106652 That whole conversation made me feel good. I don't want to lose dubi! That whole conversation made me feel good. I don’t want to lose dubi!

]]> By: Beer Me! http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106651 Beer Me! Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:32:42 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106651 see this? http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-looking-into-Sabres-Senators-postgame-locker;_ylt=AgCDqhY76Bfm2MQzDZUSl6J7vLYF?urn=nhl,117983 see this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-looking-into-Sabres-Senators-postgame-locker;_ylt=AgCDqhY76Bfm2MQzDZUSl6J7vLYF?urn=nhl,117983

]]> By: Pete http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106650 Pete Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:23:51 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106650 that is true johnny d so maybe there is some hidden talent in out system, but they also had a much much better defense than we did that was largely homegrown. to be realistic, to get the kind of scorer we need it is gonna take trading prospect and ad this point the only untouchable youth should be staal and dubinsky (clearly Hank wont/shouldnt traded) the issue is tho would we have enough to pull off say a trade for kovalchuk? probably not that is true johnny d so maybe there is some hidden talent in out system, but they also had a much much better defense than we did that was largely homegrown. to be realistic, to get the kind of scorer we need it is gonna take trading prospect and ad this point the only untouchable youth should be staal and dubinsky (clearly Hank wont/shouldnt traded) the issue is tho would we have enough to pull off say a trade for kovalchuk? probably not

]]> By: Beer Me! http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106649 Beer Me! Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:58:03 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106649 Actually, I'll have to check my facts on that. Because I think the Hank situtation could apply the same way. I'm not sure now that I think of it. It's a loophole for sure. Actually, I’ll have to check my facts on that. Because I think the Hank situtation could apply the same way. I’m not sure now that I think of it. It’s a loophole for sure.

]]> By: Beer Me! http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/comment-page-1/#comment-106648 Beer Me! Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:51:13 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/28/as-the-world-turns-patrick-rissmiller-remains-in-limbo/#comment-106648 pig - I think the game was just a mismatch personally. THIS is a trap game tomorrow night. I also wanted to comment on something you said last night (that I read this a.m.) about Orr/Betts. There's NO doubt that they are 4th liners wherever they play. Orr, possibly even in the AHL. Though he's a top-tier NHL enforcer. So while I completely 100% agree with what you said, I think what makes them (more) valuable to the NYR is their personalities and the way they are received by their teammates here. They certainly fit the mold of the 'culture' that the NYR are still establishing. Thus, they'll probably remain part of the team for a while. "dubi is restricted only. so no way he gets the type of money some here seem to think. if necessary the team will bring him to arbitration like they did with henrik to preclude offers from other teams. plus at really high levels compensation is 5 number 1 draft picks." Joe - Arbitration technically IS an option. But he'll never make it that far. Arbitration filings aren't accepted until after free agency begins on 7/1. He'd receive offer sheets well above what could (responsibly) fit under our cap. While he won't be in the echelon of 5 #1 picks, the compensation would be significant. That's why teams need to get deals done in January for RFA's so that that's not the case. pig – I think the game was just a mismatch personally. THIS is a trap game tomorrow night.

I also wanted to comment on something you said last night (that I read this a.m.) about Orr/Betts. There’s NO doubt that they are 4th liners wherever they play. Orr, possibly even in the AHL. Though he’s a top-tier NHL enforcer. So while I completely 100% agree with what you said, I think what makes them (more) valuable to the NYR is their personalities and the way they are received by their teammates here. They certainly fit the mold of the ‘culture’ that the NYR are still establishing. Thus, they’ll probably remain part of the team for a while.

“dubi is restricted only. so no way he gets the type of money some here seem to think. if necessary the team will bring him to arbitration like they did with henrik to preclude offers from other teams. plus at really high levels compensation is 5 number 1 draft picks.”

Joe – Arbitration technically IS an option. But he’ll never make it that far. Arbitration filings aren’t accepted until after free agency begins on 7/1. He’d receive offer sheets well above what could (responsibly) fit under our cap. While he won’t be in the echelon of 5 #1 picks, the compensation would be significant.

That’s why teams need to get deals done in January for RFA’s so that that’s not the case.

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