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		<title>By: rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or it could just be Sather stalling knowing that the Devils are option #2 so he waits until the Devils start their season before telling Shanny he wont come back.

Sather is not as dumb as you all think...

Do I think Shanny should be on the Rangers, yes but unless they move Rissmiller and Prucha it cannot be done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or it could just be Sather stalling knowing that the Devils are option #2 so he waits until the Devils start their season before telling Shanny he wont come back.</p>
<p>Sather is not as dumb as you all think&#8230;</p>
<p>Do I think Shanny should be on the Rangers, yes but unless they move Rissmiller and Prucha it cannot be done</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here&#039;s my case for Shanahan:

Veteran players respond in a more linear way to game situations.  Shanahan himself put it very succinctly in an interview he gave last year, when he said that a younger player will follow a play from A to B to C to D.  The veteran, however, will skip straight from A to D.  It&#039;s a matter of experience.  I think it would be hugely beneficial for players like Dubinsky, Callahan, Fritsche, Prucha and Dawes to have some more exposure to this kind of play.  Also, I can imagine Shanahan having a similar effect on Zherdev, a player noted for his overhandling of the puck.  All of these guys could benefit from watching one more season of Shanny&#039;s consistent, even play.  That being said, he would have to agree to play only 8 or 9 minutes a night, which I doubt he would.  I really don&#039;t think we&#039;ll see Shanahan in a Blueshirts jersey again, which too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here&#8217;s my case for Shanahan:</p>
<p>Veteran players respond in a more linear way to game situations.  Shanahan himself put it very succinctly in an interview he gave last year, when he said that a younger player will follow a play from A to B to C to D.  The veteran, however, will skip straight from A to D.  It&#8217;s a matter of experience.  I think it would be hugely beneficial for players like Dubinsky, Callahan, Fritsche, Prucha and Dawes to have some more exposure to this kind of play.  Also, I can imagine Shanahan having a similar effect on Zherdev, a player noted for his overhandling of the puck.  All of these guys could benefit from watching one more season of Shanny&#8217;s consistent, even play.  That being said, he would have to agree to play only 8 or 9 minutes a night, which I doubt he would.  I really don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see Shanahan in a Blueshirts jersey again, which too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: LI Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>LI Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>orr - right on re the isles. we need them to  be mediocre bad not terrible bad. about 8 from bottom overall would work just fine. so hopefully Atl, Fla, Tor, Stl, LA, VAnc, etc keeps them company and finishes below them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orr &#8211; right on re the isles. we need them to  be mediocre bad not terrible bad. about 8 from bottom overall would work just fine. so hopefully Atl, Fla, Tor, Stl, LA, VAnc, etc keeps them company and finishes below them</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shanny was one of my favorite rangers, but it hurt watching him last year.  The guy hasn&#039;t been the same since the concussion from 2 seasons ago.  It&#039;s not even the skating so much as it is the lack of physical play and inability to possess the puck.  I mean he couldn&#039;t even stickhandle last year.  When you have an uptempo fast team that thrives on puck domination, you can&#039;t have a 39 year old shanny losing the puck because he can&#039;t possess it.  Plus who says he&#039;s going to help us score?  The guy had one of the worst shooting percentages in the league last year.

Plus we are an extemely young team.  Shanny would be almost 7 years older than our oldest player.  Plus he kinda &quot;stole&quot; 2.8 mil extra from us last year, so how much more to we really owe him.  I don&#039;t mean that to sound negative against him but for what he did, he wasn&#039;t worth 5.1 million.  Also no way he&#039;s going to the wings.  Even if they had room, they have too many young guys like kopecky and helm so shanny would have to play no better than 4th line.

All I know is that the goals will come.  When you play as determined and upbeat as the rangers did in prague, you can&#039;t go through a scoring drought for that long.  They just got some bad breaks and both goalies played well.  As long as they keep forechecking hard, crashing the net, and screening the goalie like they have been, they&#039;ll get goals, especially garbage ones in front.

Like I said before this season even started, we have a lot to look forward to for this year and probably many more to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shanny was one of my favorite rangers, but it hurt watching him last year.  The guy hasn&#8217;t been the same since the concussion from 2 seasons ago.  It&#8217;s not even the skating so much as it is the lack of physical play and inability to possess the puck.  I mean he couldn&#8217;t even stickhandle last year.  When you have an uptempo fast team that thrives on puck domination, you can&#8217;t have a 39 year old shanny losing the puck because he can&#8217;t possess it.  Plus who says he&#8217;s going to help us score?  The guy had one of the worst shooting percentages in the league last year.</p>
<p>Plus we are an extemely young team.  Shanny would be almost 7 years older than our oldest player.  Plus he kinda &#8220;stole&#8221; 2.8 mil extra from us last year, so how much more to we really owe him.  I don&#8217;t mean that to sound negative against him but for what he did, he wasn&#8217;t worth 5.1 million.  Also no way he&#8217;s going to the wings.  Even if they had room, they have too many young guys like kopecky and helm so shanny would have to play no better than 4th line.</p>
<p>All I know is that the goals will come.  When you play as determined and upbeat as the rangers did in prague, you can&#8217;t go through a scoring drought for that long.  They just got some bad breaks and both goalies played well.  As long as they keep forechecking hard, crashing the net, and screening the goalie like they have been, they&#8217;ll get goals, especially garbage ones in front.</p>
<p>Like I said before this season even started, we have a lot to look forward to for this year and probably many more to come.</p>
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		<title>By: UKRanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKRanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having watched the 2 games over the weekend I have changed my opinion i don&#039;t think the team needs Shanny any more.
I think the leadership issue is moot - Drury, Gomez, Naslund, Redden, Hank and others seem to have that area covered. I think the PP and PK looks good (not great, just good).
Sure, we&#039;re more of a north/south team than we were, which would suit Shanny, but i can&#039;t see him fitting anywhere on the top 2 lines and we already have a plethora of 3rd/4th liners so there&#039;s no point signing him to fill a non-existant hole.

Thanks for 2 good years Mr Shanahan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having watched the 2 games over the weekend I have changed my opinion i don&#8217;t think the team needs Shanny any more.<br />
I think the leadership issue is moot &#8211; Drury, Gomez, Naslund, Redden, Hank and others seem to have that area covered. I think the PP and PK looks good (not great, just good).<br />
Sure, we&#8217;re more of a north/south team than we were, which would suit Shanny, but i can&#8217;t see him fitting anywhere on the top 2 lines and we already have a plethora of 3rd/4th liners so there&#8217;s no point signing him to fill a non-existant hole.</p>
<p>Thanks for 2 good years Mr Shanahan.</p>
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		<title>By: ORR !! What Is It Good FOR ??</title>
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		<dc:creator>ORR !! What Is It Good FOR ??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LI JOE

We&#039;ve been through this a number of times. Some think Shanny just couldn&#039;t make it through 82 games cause of his age, i stil believe that knee injury fugged him up, and caused it. Playing on that bruised knee caused his hip problems. He made the choice to play, which was wrong on his part, and he knows. Renney shouldn&#039;t have played him. Renney now knows that, cause that&#039;s how he is, just like with the Orr situation, not playing him against Philly when we needed him there. Limit Shanny&#039;s playing time, don&#039;t put him on the PK, and if he has some sort of minor injury, you sit him to be on the safe side. If he doesn&#039;t show up for the playoffs, then to be honest, if you can go back, who would you have played, Shanny, Rismiller, or Fritsche ? Some might say Fristche but he hasn&#039;t played in the playoffs. Pruchs hasn&#039;t even scored a playoff goal in 3 years. A healthy Shanny, and a cheap Shanny, is always worth having.

BTW - It was mentioned here, that NYI lost 6-0 in there pre season game. DiPietro gave up all 6, in his first game back from hip surgery. OUCH !! Hopefully he gets it together so they don&#039;t have a shot at Tavares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LI JOE</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been through this a number of times. Some think Shanny just couldn&#8217;t make it through 82 games cause of his age, i stil believe that knee injury fugged him up, and caused it. Playing on that bruised knee caused his hip problems. He made the choice to play, which was wrong on his part, and he knows. Renney shouldn&#8217;t have played him. Renney now knows that, cause that&#8217;s how he is, just like with the Orr situation, not playing him against Philly when we needed him there. Limit Shanny&#8217;s playing time, don&#8217;t put him on the PK, and if he has some sort of minor injury, you sit him to be on the safe side. If he doesn&#8217;t show up for the playoffs, then to be honest, if you can go back, who would you have played, Shanny, Rismiller, or Fritsche ? Some might say Fristche but he hasn&#8217;t played in the playoffs. Pruchs hasn&#8217;t even scored a playoff goal in 3 years. A healthy Shanny, and a cheap Shanny, is always worth having.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; It was mentioned here, that NYI lost 6-0 in there pre season game. DiPietro gave up all 6, in his first game back from hip surgery. OUCH !! Hopefully he gets it together so they don&#8217;t have a shot at Tavares.</p>
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		<title>By: graves9</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spider Rozsival will wear #3 until Feb 22(which is the day Howell&#039;s # will be retired) It is like when Ray Bourque wore #7 until the day the Bruins retired Espo&#039;s number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spider Rozsival will wear #3 until Feb 22(which is the day Howell&#8217;s # will be retired) It is like when Ray Bourque wore #7 until the day the Bruins retired Espo&#8217;s number.</p>
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		<title>By: graves9</title>
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		<dc:creator>graves9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry my computer was messed up if I put up a duplicate post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry my computer was messed up if I put up a duplicate post.</p>
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		<title>By: True Fans Bleed RW&#38;B</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Fans Bleed RW&#38;B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graves, I agree. It&#039;s not a criticism of Shanahan that we don&#039;t need him - it&#039;s the state of the team and the fact that the Rangers have never used a &quot;transition&quot; year to really give Dawes and Callahan a chance. Prucha got a chance his first 110 games and then that was thwarted. Even Dubinsky was sorta found by accident (when Jagr requested to play with him, not because Renney&#039;s &quot;genius&quot; wanted to give &quot;the Dubi&quot; extra ice time). Give the young guys a shot. You can&#039;t say &quot;they won&#039;t score 25 goals&quot; if you don&#039;t let them try. Hell, prucha might score 25 goals if you put him in some PP spot and swap him in for Dawes. He doesn&#039;t need to move the puck with Zherdev and Dubinsky, just shoot and go to the net, and Dawes has looked lost in that capacity so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graves, I agree. It&#8217;s not a criticism of Shanahan that we don&#8217;t need him &#8211; it&#8217;s the state of the team and the fact that the Rangers have never used a &#8220;transition&#8221; year to really give Dawes and Callahan a chance. Prucha got a chance his first 110 games and then that was thwarted. Even Dubinsky was sorta found by accident (when Jagr requested to play with him, not because Renney&#8217;s &#8220;genius&#8221; wanted to give &#8220;the Dubi&#8221; extra ice time). Give the young guys a shot. You can&#8217;t say &#8220;they won&#8217;t score 25 goals&#8221; if you don&#8217;t let them try. Hell, prucha might score 25 goals if you put him in some PP spot and swap him in for Dawes. He doesn&#8217;t need to move the puck with Zherdev and Dubinsky, just shoot and go to the net, and Dawes has looked lost in that capacity so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiderpig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiderpig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t read any of these Shanny posts anymore. Totally agree with LI Joe, who is helping to keep me sane. No way do we need Shanny or can we fit him.

On Rozsival&#039;s #3, maybe he is gradfathered in, like Rivera still wearing #42 on the Yankees. But since he told Sam he would change, I&#039;m surprised that he did not.

I love how when I asked on the Puck Daddy live blog for opening day why Girardi wasn&#039;t still paired with Redden like in preseason, people responded in such ways like why would Redden be paired with an undrafted scrub. I guess people still undervalue Girardi; meanwhile, he is usually great defensively and is now playing on the power play.

I guess Renney&#039;s (or Pearn&#039;s) theory on the power play is to put both &quot;scoring&quot; defensemen together to increase the chance that we score on the power play overall, so the most likely score will come from the first unit. They were looking good towards the end of the first game and on the goal in the second game. I don&#039;t even know what to do with Prucha anymore, but let&#039;s try him on the power play in place of Dawes for a little bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t read any of these Shanny posts anymore. Totally agree with LI Joe, who is helping to keep me sane. No way do we need Shanny or can we fit him.</p>
<p>On Rozsival&#8217;s #3, maybe he is gradfathered in, like Rivera still wearing #42 on the Yankees. But since he told Sam he would change, I&#8217;m surprised that he did not.</p>
<p>I love how when I asked on the Puck Daddy live blog for opening day why Girardi wasn&#8217;t still paired with Redden like in preseason, people responded in such ways like why would Redden be paired with an undrafted scrub. I guess people still undervalue Girardi; meanwhile, he is usually great defensively and is now playing on the power play.</p>
<p>I guess Renney&#8217;s (or Pearn&#8217;s) theory on the power play is to put both &#8220;scoring&#8221; defensemen together to increase the chance that we score on the power play overall, so the most likely score will come from the first unit. They were looking good towards the end of the first game and on the goal in the second game. I don&#8217;t even know what to do with Prucha anymore, but let&#8217;s try him on the power play in place of Dawes for a little bit.</p>
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