Hutchinson out the door?

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Update, 10:20 a.m.: As I “reported here last week”:http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/02/amidst-all-the-madness/, the Rangers have added Mike Barnett to their staff. Barnett was Wayne Gretzky’s agent and then his GM in Phoenix before eventually being fired at the end of the 2007 season. His new title according to a release from the Rangers is Senior Adviser to Glen Sather and Director of U.S. Amateur Scouting.

Earlier: Sounds like Hartford captain Andrew Hutchinson is out the door and “prepared to sign with Tampa Bay”:http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/lightning-still-retooling-add-a-defenseman/.

This hardly qualifies as tragic circumstances for the Rangers. Acquired in the Matt Cullen deal last summer, Hutchinson had been viewed by some in the organization as a possible sixth or seventh defenseman. But he never even made it to the final cuts of training camp, in large part because of in-zone deficiencies. Although he flourished with the Wolf Pack and was named the team’s captain, Hutchinson’s name came up only once as far as I could remember as a possible call-up, and that never happened (Update: As loyal reader Mitch Beck pointed out, the fact that Hutchinson had to pass through waivers was obviously part of the reason. Hey, it’s hot. Give me a break).

Tellingly, the Lightning, who have signed every forward this side of Jari Kurri this summer but haven’t been as proactive on the back end, envision Hutchinson as part of their NHL club next year.

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  1. Good for him. He didn’t dwindle in the minors but got better and deserves a shot in the NHL. My fear is that he’s going to score a GWG against us… on the PP.

  2. In reference to the last post, people on this blog are way too quick to slam Jagr’s captaincy. He was a large part of the improvement in the franchise the last three years.

  3. Salty – different situation, yes. But I’m sure if I looked around, I’d find other examples. Really, anyone or any situation relating back to that dynasty can be thrown out the window. Oh, how great the non-salary cap league was…

    To be honest, Naslund may actually be the best leader on the team this season. If Shanny were to not resign. But I don’t think there’s a chance either of them wear it.

  4. Jagr was fantastic in 05/06 to revitalize the team, and he was great in 06/07, but this year he wasn’t trying.. at least not until March. If you can’t motivate yourself, you can’t motivate your team.

    Drury, Gomez, Callahan, Staal and Dubinsky gave 110% for every game they played, not the last 20.

  5. JJP – In those posts, don’t miss that the majority of the people who may state that 68 was a sub-par captain, also point to the fact that he WAS INDEED a large part of the turn-around. But that shouldn’t equate to being a leader.

  6. In reference to the last post, people on this blog are way too quick to slam Jagr’s captaincy. He was a large part of the improvement in the franchise the last three years.

    …….

    NO ONE is debating that. That does NOT make him a good leader though. A lot of peoples opinions are that as good as he was, he still wasn’t trying his hardest and not playing up to his true potential, and THAT is NOT a leader in any sense of the word.

    I’m so happy he’s gone.

  7. JJP, Jagr was an excellent player his first season, an extremely good player second season (90+ points despite battling with the shoulder and really slow start), and a good player last season. He was never a great captain. On the contrary, you could say Shanahan made leading this team in the locker room easier for him and, to some extent, Avery led the team on the ice (“with an arrogance to know they were going to win”).

    Anyone realize Jagr had 20 more points battling the shoulder injury and rehab? Makes for the whole conspiracy theory (intentionally avoided the 84 points).

  8. To be honest, Naslund may actually be the best leader on the team this season. If Shanny were to not resign. But I don’t think there’s a chance either of them wear it.

    ……

    I’d agree on Naslund… but the guy hasn’t won multiple cups or anything like that. Until he makes a splash in NY he gets no C… but… there is no reason that Naslund couldn’t play here for 4 more years either… I don’t see it, but it could happen at the right price, and I could see him take on the C at some point.

  9. True Fans, I think he was dogging it, but then he quickly realized that he could make 9m if he could get the 84 points, which is why he finally started trying in March.

  10. JJP, Jagr’s best season was also the year the Rangers used 3A’s. What does that say?

    Did you guys know that Boston gave A-Ward $5million for 2 years?! We got Mara and Kalinen on one year deals (2.1mil & 1.9mil), Staal and Girardi. These are our BOTTOM 4 defensmen, and they’re all on cheap or entry level contracts!! Not bad! I hate that we have the other 2 guys (Rozi and Reddi) locked up for 11.5million for the next 4-5 years though. Ughh….but the bottom is pretty good! haha

  11. Anyone realize Jagr had 20 more points battling the shoulder injury and rehab? Makes for the whole conspiracy theory (intentionally avoided the 84 points).

    ……

    Yeah but he had Swedish Gretzky feeding him Euro-Passes every night and vice-versa… I think Jagr just didn’t really have it in his tank… good riddance.

  12. I respectfully disagree. I thought Jagr did very well by leading by example – he was always very quick to point out his own deficiencies, calling out himself in the media to play better, staying on the ice after practice ended, showing up on the optional days, etc. I also though he did a good job crediting the team, both players and staff, with wins and working with the younger players (how many times did they show Jagr in practice working with Dubinsky). All indications were that other players in the room liked him too. If thats not a leader, I don’t know what is.

  13. True – It’s definitely an interesting situation. Only Jarda knows what the real deal was.

    Salty – I don’t think he’ll wear it either. Though an ‘A’ wouldn’t hurt. I think his future in NY depends solely on him and his play. I love that he’s a two-way guy that can put up #’s. Sure, nothing serious in a while, but I’m optomistic.

  14. Pash,
    I think Jags wanted the payoff but did not want to stay in NY. He’s a complex individual, but I wouldn’t doubt that he had alterior motives. Thus, if he played well in the playoffs and down the stretch he expected to get paid off by another team. If he wanted to stay with the Rangers, he could have worked hard for the 84 points and then taken a break the remaining 10-15 games of the season (loafing around like he did at the beginning), and preserved the Rangers cap hit for his salary at $4.7million.

    I bet Zherdev and Naslund easily makeup the production that Jagr and Straka had last year (combined: 39 goals, 112pts), and do it at almost $2million less.

  15. It was all lip-service as soon as he admitted to ‘saving it’. If Cally or Dubi or Griardi or dawes admitted to ‘saving it’, they woulda been Kaspar’s roommate.

  16. All indications were that other players in the room liked him too.

    …….

    LOL, all as “indicated” by the one and only *MSG Network*.

    Jagr was a mope. Granted, this mope could be dominant at times… but no longer domminant enough to make all the other times worth it. I’m glad he left on good terms, he did a good job as a Ranger. But the guy became a huge impedement to the development of this team.

    We almost signed 75yr old Mats Sundin @ god knows how many million, just to try to please Jagr… no thanks.

  17. Pavel- Hutch already did score a GWG against the Rangers in overtime on the pp when he was with Nashville!

  18. LeNeveu DID sign with ANA, and compensation will be announced at some point. But all I found was that it is ‘currently undisclosed’. Which (as howlings reported) means that Montoya was given to Maloney for free. The only way that changes is if whatever 5th/6th round pick we get for LeNeveu turns out to be an nhl’er. Or at the very least an ahl’er! Josh Gratton, also received in the trade is an unsigned UFA right now. You’d have to figure that Hossa/Sjo were pretty much straight up.

  19. ” was all lip-service as soon as he admitted to ‘saving it’. If Cally or Dubi or Griardi or dawes admitted to ‘saving it’, they woulda been Kaspar’s roommate.”

    And I snore……..

  20. Beer, agreed the trade turned into a waste for Sather. However, it’s even more disheartening that the Rangers #1 pick might never make anything of himself anyway…bad pick? or poor development? Either way, if the Red Wings are finding nuggets of gold in the 2nd, 4th, and 6th rounds the Rangers *SHOULD* be getting more out of their first round picks.

    I’m starting to think Lundqvist (6th rounder?) was accidentally found by the Rags. The fact that Renney was so dead-set on starting Weekes (even after Weekes hurt his leg and came back) is another tell-tale sign of that too.

  21. BOTH a bad pick and poor development. Hopefully they’ve learned from mistakes.

    Maybe we should be trading down in the drafts!

  22. Rangers are to receive a 2009 conditional pick from Phoenix as a part of the Montoya-Sjo-hossa mess up…..

    so in the end they get freddy Sjo, 2009 cond pick from PHX and a pick to come from ANA for Hossa and Montoya

    If Montoya is a Luongo it sux
    If not…who cares except, like Truefans said, what does this say about our talent search capabilities??

  23. You know, I don’t even know if it’s about ‘finding talent’. It may be both that, and selection strategy.

    He MAY have been the best available player at the time, (which is something that Det believes is a good draft strategy).

    That doesn’t mean you have to take him.

  24. also, not drag out the PHX trade but sometimes these weasel-like GMs do things for each other ( remember SJose trading for one of Jerseys $3m a year players because they had cap space and Jersey didn’t??- Saved the 2006 Devs from being over the cap)

    So Maloney gets a young goalie with “some promise” and maybe down the road somnething equally weasel-like will be done on NYR behalf

  25. Doodie Machetto on

    Hank was actually a 7th round pick.

    I think it’s clear that they didn’t expect anything to come from him. They drafted Montoya thinking that he was the new number 1 in their system because Blackburn looked like his career was over. Then, during the lockout, Hank won the SEL MVP award, backstopping his team to the championship. Most important about it was that there were NHL players in the league that year, showing he could compete against NHL caliber players. They got to camp and Hank was great. If they knew he was that good they probably wouldn’t have signed Weekes in the first place.

    So, I wouldn’t call it a bad choice. At the time, they needed a goaltender, badly. The development was poor, and the timing of the trade was even worse.

  26. Doodie Machetto on

    Kaspar, did you ever think the weaselly thing was to benefit us by giving us Sjostrom for an AHL goaltender whose career is stalled and Marcel Hossa?

    Just playing devil’s advocate. Maloney knew exactly what he was getting in return.

  27. Doodie, who didn’t like Lundqvist during his rookie year? I really don’t know the behind-the-scenes and you have some sources on these issues.

    I do remember watching Henke play his first game and I was like “OMG! This guys is awesome!!!” and then, sure enough, Kevin Weekes started the next game. Even after Weekes continued to deteriorate (the Gagne goal 8 seconds into OT), he kept getting playing time. It wasn’t until half-way through the season and Weekes suffered an injury or two that Lundqvist was carrying the team that, by then, Renney *finally* defaulted to Lundqvist as the starter. Did Renney dislike Henke? Was it Benoit or Sather?

  28. true fans – Staal is not one of our bottom 4 d men. he is top 2 regardless of salary

  29. Comrade Doodie…

    I know I am in big minority here with this one but I think Freddy Sjostrom is going to be very good player…not just a Blair Betts type…

    Fingers crossed

  30. GIJoe, I understand your point and agree that Staal was better than most of our defense last year (if not the best), but when you have 2 guys making 20% of your salary – they better be the best damn defensmen we have. I don’t care if they are 1a, 2a guys playing the PP together, separate, or 1a, 1b guys (which they both CAN’t be, just making the point)…but they better be good in front of, and behind the puck.

  31. Beer!

    That means Montoya was either a) terrible draft pick of Maloney or b) Maloney owes the Rangers the ability to shed some salary by accepting trades from the Rangers in favor of late-round draft picks (for the receipt of Montoya in the Hossa deal).

  32. True – Re: Weekes

    I understand your thought process regading Weekes receiving too much playing time two seasons ago. Makes perfect sense, why not have Henrik in there?

    I think that in many cases, especially the veterans like Weekes, who may have been told when they signed him that he was their number one goalie and would give weekes every chance in the world to prove it. Renney it seems is very honorable in these instances, ranging from many other players like Nylander, Malik, etc, giving players lots of time to get out of their ruts.

    In a sense Renney gives the veteran time to prove himself and at the same time is proving to the veteran, through his poor play, that maybe it is time to make a change, allowing that player to play himself out of the lineup.

  33. Beer!

    No no, these guys make deals for each other, especially out of the conference. GM’s will take on salaries for other GM’s for other considerations. Ya don’t think?

  34. Vogs,

    Completely agree. Renney’s like an old dog, never wants to try a new trick. Loyal, perhaps, to a fault. As an organization, you also never want $4million riding the pine (I believe that was Weekes’ salary).

    But it also leads me to believe Renney and maybe the Rangers were lacking confidence in Lundqvist because they let Weekes fail so many times before giving it to Henke.

  35. I think it happens, sure. But I wouldn’t expect any deals coming from the desert. I don’t know, maybe I just don’t have faith that anyone would want to help out slats. Even if it were a former employee.

  36. Beer,
    I was thinking about that last week and people bashing Sather for either being asleep at the helm or accusing him of not being cordial enough with other GM’s to pull off trades. In addition to this Zherdev trade, which seems like a good one, he also managed to send Anson Carter to Washington for Jagr at half price, he got Lindros (a controversial trade, but remember how stern Lindros was when he was holding out?), and he also got Kovalev for Mikael Samuelson and a couple AHL players/4th liners.

    I think Sather has a tough rap – he hasnt won sh!t yet in NY, and he ran us further into the ground early on. But he hasn’t been at a loss for trading with other teams for some big players.

  37. I don’t disagree with any of that TRUE. But, I don’t think he’s done enough YET, to dig him completely out of the doghouse in NY. I also wouldn’t hold him SOLELY responsible for the mistakes. Nor credit him for some of the high points.

    I think over his tenure in NY, it was a drastic decline that cost us years in development. But there’s been a steady incline in just about everything across the board from draft picks to trades, to staffing the organization with the right people, etc. That, I can’t argue.

    He’s righted the sinking ship, but hasn’t found land yet.

  38. Jagr was a good captain.

    Anyone who thinks ‘Naslund could be here for 4 years’ or ‘could wear the C’ will be singing a much different song and dance once they see him play. He is soft and nearing the backside of the bell-curve of his career.

  39. Great, Hutchinson out the door … great trade !!! … LeNeavu leaves … so top 10 first round pick Montoya was traded for nobody …

    Agent Barnett signed as senior advisor to Sather and Director of Amateur Scouting — are you kidding me? … He buried the Coyotes …

    Does Sather have a clue ?? Is he too comfortable as a Dolan pet? …

    Thank goodness for the Islanders… otherwise Rangers would end in the basement.

  40. True – to go back to something you stated, the jagr trade was more of a lose-lose for washington. We know how temeramental jags is, and that he only wanted to go to ny, wash had to dump the salary(whatever they could of it), so it kinda fell in slats’ lap. That said, the terms of the deal were well constructed.

  41. Sam,

    When are you going to start doing live chats in the afternoons like your boy Zipay?

  42. Koffy, if the race turns into who’s playing for last place and the Islanders win, that’s terrible!! Tavares should be another Crosby-like draft.

    noonan, I think the capitals and their fans were saying the same thing about Jagr after he had a couple 60 pointers in the stat books. We’ll see, I have high hopes for Nazzy. 70-80 points?

    Noah, Sam’s golfing.

    If Jagr was a good captain then Sean Avery is the consumnate teammate.

  43. Bartnett was a top line agent but a wretched and I mean wrteched GM. I hope he doesn’t wield too much power. TB imo are gonna be a trade wreck. Outside of the trade for Zherdev I am no a fan of Sather’s moves this offseason. Instead of giving Redden 6+ mill why not give Boummester an offer sheet at that price? Having Boummester and Staal on the same blueline would be a pipe dream but it would have been smarter and more creative than giving a fadining dman 6 mill. I rather have a fading Jagr than a washed up Nasland sorry. Nasland has been nothing but a soft perimeter player for a while now. I suspect he’ll be getting booed in Late November. Jagr is far superior to him in every way. Not suure why they signed both Mara and Kalinin. Why not sign one and let Potter, Sangiuenetti, Sauer and others fight it out for the 6th dman spot?

  44. I’ve been reading some of the content on the Russian sites. It’s rather funny reading the comments made by readers who actually believe that Bardin stole Jagr from The Rangers, and that having Chep not going to N.A. is a HUGE victory for them.A big slap in the face to the NHL so to speak. lol

    “– Sater not offended that you Yagra he took?

    – This is his problem. Incidentally, I have him and Cherepanova not lost.”

    ————————————————

    interesting article….

    scroll down to Jul 06, 2008

    “The new hockey imperialists”

    http://blog.canoe.ca/drhockey

    “The upstart Continental Hockey League could be a problem for the NHL for a couple of obvious reasons.”

  45. So many questions coming into the season and so much pressure for guys to step up. Drury needs to be alot better than he was last year. Gomez has to prop up Nasland and try to get Zherdev to reach his vast potential. Staal needs to not have a sophmore slump. Callahan, Dawes, Dubinsky all need to step up more and become consistant scorers. Lundqvist will be his usual great self. Redden needs to become something he’s never really been an elite dman. Rozsival needs to be much much better. This team needs to get scoring depth that they didn’t have last year and God knows where it’s coming from this year. So many new players need to find chemistry with each other. Zherdev needs to become at least a 30 goal guy. He has the talent but what about the attitude and work ethic. How in Gods name can the pp get better with maybe one or two natural goal scorers on the team(If Nasland isn’t done and if Zherdev steps up) I don’t see how Sather has put this team in a spot to be cup contenders.

  46. Sather owes Jagr a whole depth of gratitude(as do Ranger fans) Sather after trading Messier in ’91 wallowed in medicority. Sather came here and made this team into an even bigger lauginstock than it already was. Every mistake that could be made was. Stupid trades dumber signings and even dumber draft picks were made. Jagr took a moribid franchise and make it more than respectable again. Some people forget how bad it was. Jagr was the reason it all changed. For that i said thanks and I’m sorry you’re leaving.

  47. side note for y’all…

    Redden is a career +159. Had just one season of ‘minus’ play, he was a -1 in ’99-’00.

  48. Beer,
    I hope you’re prepared for the “Malik should’ve won the Norris” speech concerning plus/minus, it’s a useless stat! The NHL keeps it for no reason at all! Duh. LOL

    BTW: good stats. I know he uses his body better than what we have, I just hope he’s not as flat-footed.

  49. Yeah, that stat is what it is. I know that Scott Stevens finshed around +250 or so for his career. People may genuinely despise the stat, and I agree that it IS overrated, but it’s a smaller mechanism that makes up your teams record with or without you in the lineup. ahem ahem.

  50. Jagr to make the equivalent of 10-11 million next 2 seasons, with an option for a third year. Hahaha.

    Good for him, but we were never footing that bill.

    “Jagr’s agent, Pat Brisson, confirmed the signing in an e-mail. He and Jagr, as well the team, wouldn’t comment on contract terms. However, the deal is believed to be for two years plus an option for a third, and will pay Jagr about $7 million tax-free — the equivalent of about $11 million a season in the NHL.”

  51. “noonan, I think the capitals and their fans were saying the same thing about Jagr after he had a couple 60 pointers in the stat books. We’ll see, I have high hopes for Nazzy. 70-80 points?”

    I’ll be happy with 60+ from Naslund. I hope they stuff him on the 2nd or 3rd line.

  52. Redden has fallen off in his early 30’s Stevens’ legend was just growing at that age. I don’t believe even Stevens ever made the money that Redden is. Think about it Redden is making well over a million more than Zubov and less than a million less than Redden. In reality he can’t even carry their jocks. I can only imagine the offer sheets Staal is gonna get when he becomes an rfa.

  53. Jagr never had 60 points for the Caps. He was in the mid 70 point range. I believe he had a real good 02-03 season there. Nasland was brought in to play on the top line obviously.

  54. Redden has fallen off in his early 30’s Stevens’ legend was just growing at that age.

    …….

    Yet you Jagr suckers can’t stop gushing your warm slippery slime about him. How old was he when we got him and for how many seasons did his numbers look like sh1t?

    Jagr needed a change of scenery when he started to level off and played pretty well when he got one, didn’t he?

  55. Wait a second…I was in no way comparing stevens to redden. just stating an impressive ‘stat'(haha)

  56. Beer, did you ever think Salty would be laying the smackdown using the optimistic approach?! Wow. That must’ve been a good vacation, Salt?

    I agree with the point though. Naslund’s welcome and Redden’s welcome wore thin in their home-town’s. They’re both younger than Jagr, what says they can’t come in and produce? After all, we’re trying to replace 70 or so points and whatever Backman+Malik offered. I’m going to keep up hope that both will.

  57. I don’t a problem matching last years production for the players not returning. Especially on the backend.

    I also think there is more skill to be added on the wings.

    It’s real hard to gauge where this team stands until at least september. Anything said or read between now and then, is just speculation. Sure, it’s fun now and then, but who knows what this roster will look like next week let alone 2 months from now.

  58. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt. By my own admission, I’ve really never paid attention the them (Redden/Naslund) before… whereas a guy Like Drury… I’ve been exposed to for some time now (watching him in Buffalo and NY) and feel a little more at liberty to cut him down about things.

    I also doubt either one of Naslund/Redden will *ever* gain as much control of the organization that Jagr did, and for that reason, I will defend them…for now. Brining those guys in facilitated the cutting of ties with Jaromir… I definitely embrace that.

  59. I’d like to see what any of you can make of this… what is unique about this passage?
    (This includes you Sam!)

    “Now, naturally, in writing such a story as this, with its conditions as laid down in its Introduction, it is not surprising that an occasional “rough spot” in composition is found. So I trust that a critical public will hold constantly in mind that I am voluntarily avoiding words containing that symbol which is, by far, of most common inclusion in writing our Anglo-Saxon as it is, today. Many of our most common words cannot show; so I must adopt synonyms; and so twist a thought around as to say what I wish with as much clarity as I can.”

    Any takers?

  60. Its a paragraph that could have been summed up in a word; NO! in a sound; like that of clearing one’s throat

  61. I am new to this site.. glad I found it.. I can’t believe there is so much debate around Jagr.. Jagr’s contributions over the past several years were immeasurable.. However, i think it is clearly time for a change.. time to hand over the team to Gomez and Drury…the Rangers decided to sign these guys to big contracts last season… the decision was made to bring these guys in (skilled and character guys) and build a young core around them.. our kids werent going to develop under Jagr.. while he was the best player on the team, he was a terrible captain.. it would have been heartbreaking if he landed in the eastern conference (esp Pitt).. but having him play in Russia makes it easy for me to say thx and goodbye…duby in going to thrive in a faster paced, open iced game.. i think we got Naslund for a decent price.. and I am very excited of Zherdev – have we had a player of his offensive potential since Kovalev? sorry for long post.

  62. “Drury is a brick”

    ……..

    As in immobile? As in heavy? As in rigid? As in a square?

    The guy is really not even that physical… He could/should have also given Gomez #23. Drury has played with several different numbers in the NHL, he should have gone back to #37 as soon as the conflict was realized… Drury didn’t even win the Cup with #23… Gomez won two with that number…

    Drury also named his son Drew. How gay is that.

  63. JS
    Welcome to the sight; there are dozens of names listed here but really only two guys talking back and forth changing names like mental patients…..you’ll see

    K

  64. damn salty, you friggin hate drury. Chris should get a restraining order against you! lol

  65. Drury is a brick”

    ……..

    As in immobile? As in heavy? As in rigid? As in a square?

    *********

    I was talking about his personality man

  66. How could anyone possibly hate Chris Drury as much as Salty does?? It astounds me, not even Malik deserves the kind of hate that Drury gets from Salty. There has to be somethign more to it!

  67. Bare mimimum he is a good solid NHL player who puts the team first, was on a cup winning team, is good defensively and adds something positive to the team. How can you hate him. I can understand saying he is overpaid, but who could ever hate a player like Drury that plays for the team you root for. It’s insanity.

  68. JS see what I mean? These are the same guys; except me…I’m the same guy as you

  69. Salty – no “E”?

    …….

    NICE catch

    Drury, I just think the guy is a kind of a hack … I think he gets more credit and praise than he deserves… but the truth is that recently and sometimes I will just rant about him because it’s funny to me to say unprecedented/unreasonable things… and make random emasculating things up about him. Especially when someone says something like “Drury just wins” or something fucking ridiculous like that.

    Obviously, I don’t really think Hutchinson ‘would make a better captain than Drury’ like I said above.

    Obviously, I’m not having an affair with Drury’s wife like I’ve alluded to before…It was just a one night thing.

    I will continue to razz the hell out of Drury until HE makes an impression on ME. As for the rest of you, take it for what it’s worth.

  70. “Testing your theory..”

    Kaspar don’t start that again, that happened last summer and I almost got banned…had some Bud Bundy-like kid swearing at everyone using my name!

  71. SeamusORiley on

    I could see why hutch was left in hartford….he could not break a line up with Malik in it!

  72. kaspar, you’re friggin crazy man. But welcomed comic relief in an afternoon lull.

    salt…He’ll win you over. I think there was a lot of stepping on eggshells with fat-ass #68 on the bench. See: A. Ward as exhibit 1.

    I think we’ll see a better Drury this season. Not that last year was a disaster, but he’s capable of much better.

    question just for salty…who was the bigger dissapointment last season…68 or 23? one or the other, all things considered.

  73. SeamusORiley on

    I thought Freddy Shoestrum (I know, I know) showed some speed and puck handling ability at times. I wonder whether he needs a real shot and some significant ice time to pan out for us. I know that most are down on him, but I would like to give him a shot.

  74. What gets to me regarding Hutchinson leaving has really nothing to do with him. Rather, if we dumped Cullen for salary reasons, but have arguably overpaid for Redden while developing a “younger, faster” team, then why did we get rid of Cullen? Now, I know he’s not that young, but speedy as anything and can play PP/SH…

  75. I will continue to razz the hell out of Drury until HE makes an impression on ME.

    —–

    Okay, I’ll bite. Back your shit talking up Salty, what makes you know more about Drury then numerous GMs, coaches, writers, etc? Whats the highest level of hockey you’ve played or coached that makes you such a good judge of talent?

  76. Beer, great question – and I’ll answer because i’m another of the Drury critics. All in all, Drury goes out and plays hard every night, although limited in what he has. For that, Jagr was the bigger waste of space last year.

    ReMbrANdT (RMANT)! Thanks for joining! BTW; i do play hockey and I enjoy reading your posts and everyone else’s here. As I’ve said many a time, there are extremely knowledgeable people here and that’s why I come to learn more about the team and the sport. I’ve been playing for about 18 years, since about the age of 8. My opinion carries the same weight as yours, we each have areas of greater experience and knowledge. Just because we disagree doesn’t mean it’s a personal attack – however, when people jump on the boards and make 3rd grade personal attacks because they’re corrected on factual things (ie. Shanny’s salary, Plus/Minus calculations), it’s not me that has the problem. It’s not me that’s the self-proclaimed hockey brain. I wish I knew what scouts and executives know, and I guess that’s why I’m here. Thanks for the concern, enjoy!

  77. Can’t believe you are bringing up Ward to bash Jagr. Ward has been rather unpopular with every team he’s been with. I recall reading in the Detriot news years ago that his teammates thought he was paranoid. Jagr helped kids like Staal, Prucha and Dubinsky immeasurably. He stayed long after practice working with them on their game as well as his.

  78. Doodie Machetto on

    “Instead of giving Redden 6+ mill why not give Boummester an offer sheet at that price? ”

    Aside from the fact that he filed for arbitration, and therefore is ineligible for an offer sheet, it would cost more than 6 million to get him. If the price were 6 million, it would cost two first round picks, a second round pick, and a third round pick, as well. If the price was 6.539 or more, it would cost 4 first rounders.

  79. Doodie Machetto on

    Also, the Lightning, aside from losing most games, are going to have a really bad consequence from having no defense whatsoever. They are going to RUIN Mike Smith, a very promising young goaltender. He will never recover from the shelling he will receive over the course of this season.

  80. salt…He’ll win you over. I think there was a lot of stepping on eggshells with fat-ass #68 on the bench. See: A. Ward as exhibit 1.

    I think we’ll see a better Drury this season. Not that last year was a disaster, but he’s capable of much better.

    question just for salty…who was the bigger dissapointment last season…68 or 23? one or the other, all things considered.

    ….

    Believe it or not, I believe it. I know the stranglehold Jagr had on the operation… I do expect he’ll mkae more of an impact next seaz.

    To answer your question, it is a VERY tough question, but I will have to answer that Drury was more of a disspointment overall. Despite my preconceived notion of him, I still gave him the benefit of the doubt and expected to see a big time player in him after all I’ve been sold on the guy over the years. I was looking forward to witnessing his “magic” and “distinct leadership”, and oh who can forget the “clutchness”, and the “playoff prowess”?

    Jagr… I already kiiiinda knew what were getting with Jagr and was not expecting too much. There was a brief period where I really thought he was going to “regain form” like he promised in the pre season and “have his best year ever”… but it was all song and dance. I’ve been very curious about the “post Jagr era” even when he put up 53g… I knew this guy was racking up years and once we signed Gomez/Drury I started to mentally prepare (see: become excited) for a team that was not focused around a player like Jagr.

    Jagr also did indeed make a splash in the playoffs, Drury did shit.

  81. Well Gomez has scored more than 20 goals once and Drury has scored more than 30 goals what once as well? Dawes is a pretty natural scorer so I expect 20-25 from him. Cally is tougher. He is not a big guy and he mucks and grinds and hits he could be suspectable to an injury if not maybe 15-20 goal guy. Can Prucha regain his confidence and scoring touch? I get the feeling Zherdev will drive us nuts like Kovalev did. Dubi’s production will depend on who he plays with. If put with the right guys he can put up 50 points with around 15 + goals. That is if there’s no sophmore slump. What if he ends up playing with Voros and Sjostrom on a line? What if his ice time dimishes so much his development is retarded? Oitside of those guys mentioned you’ll get what ten goals combined at most from Betts-Voros-Rissmiller-Hollweg-Orr. Fritcshe is another depth player that may not have a role and may not crack more than ten goals.

  82. Fair enough salty. But if I reminded you that 68 got to pick and choose who he played with and 23 played with whomever was left, would it sway anything?

    “Beer me….stay out of this one man!”
    Kaspar…dude…I’m just trying to keep you from getting deported for killing your evil-twin.

  83. if we dumped Cullen for salary reasons, but have arguably overpaid for Redden while developing a “younger, faster” team, then why did we get rid of Cullen?
    ……………
    Redden’s a defenseman, Cullen’s a center. Cullen was dumped to make room for Drury (capwise and centerwise). Redden’s overpaid, but that has little to do with sending Cullen to Carolina in order to get Drury (who’s also overpaid). I’m noticing a trend…

  84. Doodie Machetto on

    graves, I think you’re wrong about Sjostrom, Rissmiller, Voros, and Fritsche. When given the right amount of icetime, I think each of those guys can individually contribute what HBO did combined. In fact, with the exception of Voros, they all did last season.

    BTW, Voros fell like 1 or 2 points short of doing it last season, but he only played in like 55 games.

    HBO should all be sent to Hartford/traded.

  85. Fair enough salty. But if I reminded you that 68 got to pick and choose who he played with and 23 played with whomever was left, would it sway anything?
    ….

    sure, I recognize this… but ideally, who would you have rather skated with 23? i feel he had his opportunities.

  86. SeamusORiley on

    I am willing to bet that Jags had more pressure on Renney’s coaching decisions than not. I wonder if Renney will have more authority without Jags in the lockeroom. I also wonder if the team will be more unified than it was when it was:

    Shanny, Gomez, Drury, two-way dump and chase, defensive hockey…scoring dirty, hard worked for goals….

    or the Jagr team where they play keep away with the puck, bail out of shootouts and look for the pretty goal; and not really care if Hank gets a shut out.

    I also wonder why Washington would not only give away Jagr for next to nothin’ but would pay his salary just to get him out of there….never understood that one. There must have been some inlockeroom reasons for that.

    anyone?

  87. Doodie,
    Ideally, what does your line 4 look like this year? Jamtin? Voros? Fritsche? Rissmiller? I thought Shjoes would see 3rd line time.

    Hollweg and Orr (although I have come to appreciate him more, has become a solid fighter) are expendable.

  88. “I am willing to bet that Jags had more pressure on Renney’s coaching decisions than not. I wonder if Renney will have more authority without Jags in the lockeroom.”

    I would make that bet with you Seamus. Fo sho.

  89. I think we need to keep Orr…he is good at what he does
    Hollweg,Betts and all these new 4th line guys? don’t they grow on trees?? Close your eyes stick a finger into the AHL and you can get them

  90. In the Hockey News last month, Jagr said about his time as a Capital: “You don’t have the same freedom; you couldn’t play the way you wanted, the way I was used to. They didn’t let you play the way you wanted; of course, you’re not going to play the same. I was so used to something and I didn’t get it, and I was trying to fight for it, and then I gave up.”

    Jagr’s tumultuous tenure in Washington wasn’t limited to the ice. It was marked by a public breakup with his longtime girlfriend, reports of significant gambling losses, scoring slumps, squabbles with the coaching staff, all while skating for an underachieving team of high-priced veterans.

    {Here’s the rest of the article…}

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/01/AR2005120101469.html

  91. If Jagr actually pressured Renney to makes moves than how come the Rangers became a defensive team in Jagr’s last year and a half here? He also bought in and never complained about it. Rissmiller-Fritcshe-Voros would make a far far better 4th line than the Renney favs(HBO) line did. Betts is a great pker but that;’s it. His faceoff numbers have been rather ugly the last two years.

  92. what a joke . talk about the old boys club. hiring that clueless Gretzky hanger-on Barnett is pathetic.

    he is Sather’s buddy ’cause he was Wayne’s agent and then showed how over his head he was by being given the GM job in phoe for simply being Wayne’s sycophant.

    even Don Maloney has done miles better than Barnett in Phoe

    rangers hiring Barnett is not good

  93. Beer Me
    that article was quoted almost word for word on this blog over the past year!! Just replace Straka for Lang etc….

    One thing I need to say…Ron Wilson can stifle the living hell out of offensive talent( See Chokes, I mean Sharks) and yea yea I know he “trapped” his way to a cup so did a lot of losers in the 90’s

    Jagr good/ Wilson bad

  94. Who said Jagr didn’t whine and complain with the Caps? My whole point was he(along with Lundqvist) were the reason this franchise went from a lauginstock to a good team. If you can’t see how giantic of a hand he had in the turnaround you are blind.

  95. Didn’t Betts lead the team in faceoff wins and percentage in 06/07?! Didn’t he lead forwards in blocked shots? I think he’s got 2 or 3 SH goals too during his time here (good, not great).

  96. Nobody disagreed that Jagr turned this organization around, with Lundqvist, of course. Doesn’t mean he was a good captain.

    BTW: The Rangers would’ve missed the playoffs had Jason Ward remained a Ranger the entire 06/07 season.

  97. No he was in the mid 40’s in faceoff percentage the last few years. I already said he was a great pker. I think Rissmiller would add more as the 4th line center. Same great pk specialist with more offense.

  98. If you can’t see how giantic of a hand he had in the turnaround you are blind.

    Great, so just how long are we indentured to him? What more do you want us to say? Yes everyone knows he helped us out, but a lot of us are still glad he’s gone. I think *you’re* the blind one, and missing the fact that NO ONE is saying Jagr didn’t help turn the team around. NOT ONE SOUL here will try to tell you that Jagr didn’t help.

    I’ll also tell you this, if it weren’t for what Jagr did here, we probably don’t get to sign guys like:

    Shanny
    Gomez
    Drury
    Redden
    Naslund

  99. “IF”? Jagr pressured Renney. are you kidding?

    the line combos and D pairings were arranged to placate him.

    the PP was run Jagr’s way on unit 1, and Renney’s way on unit 2

    Rosival passed up shots constantly from the point on the PP ’cause Jagr said shooting from the point was “stupid”

    the shootout was selected according to Jagr’s sulking attitude

    and it really frosts me when guys get mad about posters writing about how Jagr dogs it. hey folks, he ADMITTED it in several different interviews that he dogged it in Pitt at the end there, in Wash for sure, and in NY last year for 5 months
    and the turnaround was 90% Lundqvist. how do I know? because if Weekes had continued as the #1 goalie as Renney wanted and only injury changed things, with Weekes as #1 they would have missed the PO entirely, Jagr or not.

  100. Being a Renney advocate, I obviously can’t be completely un-bias here. But let’s just look at the goalie that Hank turned into. Let’s remember what knocked us out of the playoffs that season.

    I never wanted Weeks to start a single game for us, and woulda settled for anyone to replace him. Including a goalie I knew pretty much nothing about other than he was a late round selection and had been the MVP in a league that had NHL’ers playing against farmers and goat hearders for all I know.

    But the games he played, and the games he DIDN’T could have only HELPED him. There’s no way they hurt him. He had never played an 82 game schedule before his 1st year in N.A. And felt the reprucussions of over-playing by developing migraines, shin-splints, and cost us games late and in the playoffs for not stepping out of the crease. Who knows if he woulda made it that far had he played all of October.

    Say what you want about Renney’s decisions, but that situation was handled better than almost any other during his tenure so far.

  101. Do you guys remember that one game that october though…when Weeks started on the Island, and got burned for 3 quickies in the 1st 8/9minutes?

    man…he sux.

  102. Salty and BadCzechs, good points.

    Graves9, i think you missed *both* of my points.
    Blair Betts did win 52.3%, probably the best Ranger 06/07 (from official Rangers webpage):
    2006-07 SEASON: Skated in 82 games with the Rangers, registering nine goals and four assists, along with 24 penalty minutes … Established career-highs in games played (82), goals (nine), ssists (four), points (13), shots on goal (120), and average icetime (14:01) … Ranked first among all orwards in the NHL with 98 blocked shots … Led the team in faceoffs won (620) and ranked 26th among NHL centers with a 52.3% faceoff percentage

    Aaron Ward did have a conflict with Jagr and got traded. HOWEVER, *Jason Ward was who I referred to* not accidentally, but because he was traded for Sean Avery – when the Rangers were 10th in the EAST! Avery sparked the Rangers (a team they kept losing games they were leading 2-0, constantly). They made the playoff run possible by acquiring Avery, but without him Jagr and his team would’ve missed it.

    Nobody realizes that. Jagr’s first season, Jagr wears an A and performs great…Rangers, perhaps burnt out by olympics, slump to the end of the season and get swept by the NJ Idiots. 2 years ago they almost missed the playoffs, before Avery arrived. This year, Jagr had 70 something points, when Lundqvist basically led the team (with the help of defense, by committee). Captain…who?

  103. Weekes was a Mr. Softie coupon-good for 1 a game. I remember his 1st game at Philly and he played great. After that, nothing special. I don’t remember him being too much of a d##k after losing the job to Hank. Renney definitely went out of his way to keep him happy.

  104. you guys clearly don’t know much about the young guys on tampas back line. They have the potential to be really good Dmen, especially Picard.

    And hiring Barnett as a scout is fine. Just because a guy was a bad GM when he was thrown into the position without working his way up doesn’t mean he’ll be a bad GM. Happened to JFJ in Toronto and some other places. You really have to do it the right way like Detroit did by starting Holland at the bottom and having him work his way up the prgoram to GM.

  105. Here’s something no one should know. The first goal scored by a Ranger after the lockout….Jason Strudwick.

  106. and as for Weekes, we signed him as a number 1. The guy was the best goalie we could get and def is an NHL goalie (more of a backup but he shows signs of being pretty solid at points). You can’t just dump the guy immediately when he’s making starter money and lundqvist had only played a handful of NHL games. Plus you don’t want to rush a rookie to start in the NHL. I think we handled that situation right because when we needed to win, we made the switch and weekes helped us down the stretch anyway.

  107. Answer: Jamie Lundmark and Marcel Hossa!

    Who’s now the longest tenured Ranger and which current forward has the most goals as a Ranger? (this was on hockeyrodent’s site)

  108. haha…I’d have to look it up. I also remember the game that we clinched the playoffs that year. I don’t remember who shot the puck, but it hit Rucinsky in the face and went in for the GW! yay!

  109. I gotta respond to Johnny’s post. Gotta do it.

    “You really have to do it the right way like Detroit did by starting Holland at the bottom and having him work his way up the prgoram to GM.”

    You mean like… coaching in the WHL and winning championships in your first 2 years. Then coach in the CHL and winning a championship there. Then coaching Team Canada in the olympics to a silver medal. Coaching Canadian national teams to 3 golds, 3 silvers & 2 bronze. Taking a job as a director of player personnel for 2 years, then vice pres/player development. Then head coach of the Rangers? That sounds like a good plan to me!

  110. scratch him off the list…they’ve got plenty of cap-room to overpay…

    ….
    In an interview with Vancouver radio station CKNW, free agent forward Pavol Demitra confirmed that the Canucks are his preferred destination and expects to sign with the team.

    “I think there is a good chance,” Demitra said.

    “[Current Canucks GM Mike Gillis] used to be my agent for a long time. We are very good friends. I am very interested in playing for [the Canucks].”

  111. Beer
    What you are saying above about Hank and the first season is exactly true….even though the 40G per year goalie was good enought for the 70’s habs ( dryden-Laroque) the 79-84 Isles ( Smith/ Resch-Melanson)it seems because of wanting to have a “cheap’ back-up all these teams now need goalies to go 70 G a year…no way would Hank have been ready that year and like you said he began breaking down as it is….I’m a renney basher by nature ( I hate gum-chewing coaches) but he handled that sitch perfectly

  112. “You mean like… coaching in the WHL and winning championships in your first 2 years. Then coach in the CHL and winning a championship there. Then coaching Team Canada in the olympics to a silver medal. Coaching Canadian national teams to 3 golds, 3 silvers & 2 bronze. Taking a job as a director of player personnel for 2 years, then vice pres/player development. Then head coach of the Rangers? That sounds like a good plan to me!”

    Hey it worked, right? haha.

  113. “Kevin Weekes was in net for the game when we clinched in 05-06 … went to a shootout … vs PHI”

    I was there. Weekes stood on his head that game.

  114. Who’s now the longest tenured Ranger and which current forward has the most goals as a Ranger?

    Did anyone answer, can I guess (guess purely a guess… don’t laugh if I’m to far off…)

    longest tenured Ranger= BEtts
    forward with most goals as Ranger=Prucha
    ????

    I really don’t know…

  115. btw, Sykora scored the game winner in the SO. If you want to see highlights at NHL.com, the game was 4/4/06. Weekes made two key stops in that game on breakaways that stuck in my mind for some reason.

  116. Ok more trivia

    What handsome-would-be-movie-star led the 2005-06 Rangers in PIM

    Also was responsible for delivering big crunch on crybaby scotty gomez in early season game and…

    Personally rescued Ozilnich from mid-town bars on 4 occasions after he got drunk and nasty to women with beards

  117. Hey Kaspar!
    Can’t even spell your buddy “Ozolinsh’s” name right, huh?

    Agg, Prucha was drafted by the Rangers in 2002. Betts was acquired in trade in 2004. Both started their Rangers career after the lockout in 05.

  118. well just got home from vacation and am a little shocked what the team is gonna look like… this could be a real good team and personally i think this team looks better than i expected it to.(also the glad the jagr era is over no more I in the rangers team, hopefully)
    naslund gomer dawes
    zherdev dubi prucha
    callhan dru korpikoski
    sjostrom betts rismiller

    staal redden
    girardi talinin
    rosival mara

  119. “Hey Kaspar!
    Can’t even spell your buddy “Ozolinsh’s” name right, huh?’

    Not such a good speller truefans….why do you think I just call myself “Kaspar”

  120. I humbly bow down to Beer and his rapid fire ability to post some excellent article links !!! My reading skills have greatly improved !
    Unfortunately, my boss wants to bust Beer a new backside since now I spend more time at work reading hockey articles than doing my actual work!!!

  121. Yeah… sad but true….. this work cr*p gets in the way of all my freakin fun !

  122. Kaspar I don’t want to answer your trivia for fear of misspelling the name, I wouldn’t want to piss that fellow off… no matter handsome

    I think Rozsival and Staal will stay together since they already have a relationship. Redden will match with Girardi I suppose, if the right left thing matches up…

  123. No Defense
    by Paul on 07/08/08 at 05:06

    from Ken Campbell of the Hockey News,

    Perhaps Barrie knows something we don’t. But we’re betting a top eight defense corps of Paul Ranger, Filip Kuba, Matt Carle, Shane O’Brien, Alexandre Picard, Mike Lundin, Janne Niskala and Matt (and we don’t mean) Smaby will not hold up to the rigors of NHL competition and will be the Lightning’s undoing next season.

    And if it’s true the Lightning is shopping No. 1 goalie Mike Smith and plans to go with a tandem of Olaf Kolzig and Karri Ramo next season, the Lightning had better be prepared to lose lots of 6-5 hockey games.

    ———————————-

    haha. lol. things will be interesting in Tampa this season. wild and crazy high scoring games, Barry and his mullet, the owners making moves every day.

  124. Betts is the longest tenured Ranger. He has played in 233 games while Prucha has played in just 209 since 05-06.

  125. 1. To go back a few hours, while Salty’s passage had no e’s, my first inclination was that the passage was an excerpt from the Foreward of Tom Renneys forthcoming autobiography.

    2. I believe Weekes gave up 3 quickies on the Island in either October of 2006 or maybe even a preseason game. Shannys meaningless hat trick was actually a little later that year at MSG after the Isles took a 4-0 lead on Hank after 1. Absolutely putrid effort, Rangers lost their first 4 or 5 to the Isles that year.

  126. Drafted don’t mean anything…its when did they start to play?
    Hollweg, Hank and even malik (until he’s gone he’s ours) all started playing in 2005 along with Pruchs and Betts…..did you know that Pock played in 2003-04?

  127. And….if drafted does mean anything its Hank…drafted in 2000

    Now thats enough lets get back to those trivia questions or fighting over Drury

  128. Doodie Machetto on

    Jason Smith signed by Ottawa, 2 years, financials not released yet.

    Demitra signs with Vancouver, 3 years, 12 million

    Bernier signed to an offer sheet by St. Louis, 1 year, 2.5 million. Vancouver can match or get a 2nd round pick. Seeing as how they gave up a 2nd and 3rd rounder to get him, I think they match, or it’s egg all over their GM’s face.

    Halak resigns with Canadiens, 2 years, 1.55 million.

    Erhoff is resigned, but no official announcement made about term or amount.

    Lighting signed another forward today, Artyukin, to 2 year, 1.9 million deal.

  129. Blue404Seats on

    Beer Me!
    July 8th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    Do you guys remember that one game that october though…when Weeks started on the Island, and got burned for 3 quickies in the 1st 8/9minutes?
    man…he sux.

    but Weeks got the job done when he played for carolina against the devils in the playoffs a few years back. ha

  130. I’ll stick with longest tenured to mean most # of games played for a team. Thanks for ruining my day Rozsy…

  131. reginald dunlop on

    rangers have to sign free agents sc0tt devenney or mike greaney to fill out top two lines

  132. Just visited HABS INSIDE/OUT site and was shocked to see articles insulting America, New York Rangers and fans. Its part of the Paul Mara article.

  133. I hope we’re not making the Adam Hall mistake from 2 seasons ago with Voros and Rissmiller – you know the one where Slats signs a guy expecting him to be a top 2 line power forward and he turned out to be only a 3rd/4th line banger….

    With our cap situation i get the feeling if Fritsche is awarded $1m or more we will walk away….

  134. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Ryan, sorry to ruin your day – the answer you obtained also ruins mine.

    Unfortunately, I should have copied the question specifically from the source:
    “Question: Which current Ranger forward has been here the longest?”
    Answer: Prucha.

    Although, Prucha, Hollweg, Betts all started with the Rags in 2005

  135. voros and rissmiller are 3rd/4th line depth guys. no one is expecting them to be on the top 2 lines (although if rissmiller is in the lineup you could stick him in front of the net on the pp)…voros is a potential upgrade over hollweg on the 4th line. rissmiller is a potential 3rd or 4th line winger

    and no way the rangers walk away from fritsche for $1 mil, he’s got good upside and they aren’t walking away without giving him a look first. they wouldn’t have made the trade for him if they weren’t willing to sign him for that little.

  136. Troj – Tell your boss that you’ve been committed to the Rangers longer than your job. There are things in life that deserve a certain amount of attention you know.

    I’d rather have Fritsche than Rissmiller. I’m very interested to see what the artitrator rules.

  137. “One week after the Vancouver Canucks signed restricted free agent forward David Backes to an offer sheet, the St. Louis Blues struck back. The Blues signed Group II free agent forward Steve Bernier to an offer sheet worth $2.5 million for next season, which the Canucks were quick to match.”

    Atta boy JD. Don’t take no sh!t from no one.

  138. On Kalinin,
    sounds like our new malik, great, can’t say I’m looking forward to watching this guy play for the rangers.

  139. SeamusORiley on

    There are a couple of guys who I think will be interesting to see how they perform sans Jags:

    1. Renney
    2. Gomez
    3. Drury

    Dubinsky will have to step it up as he benefited from playing with Jagr, but I wonder about these three. Methinks they are all going to have better seasons.

    a few of us are willing to bet on it…

  140. I garuntee that Gomer has a better season. NOT that there was anything wrong(other than a slow start) with last season. But I don’t think it will have as much to do with Jags, as having a winger (Z) that can keep up and compliment Gomer.

    Drury I GARUNTEE has a better season. Barring any injuries of course.

    Dubi I think will be the big question mark. I believe that his game will not change a whole lot. I think he’s a solid top 6 fwd for the Rangers. I think it’ll be all about the wingers he ends up with.

  141. “Just visited HABS INSIDE/OUT site and was shocked to see articles insulting America, New York Rangers and fans. Its part of the Paul Mara article.”

    I don’t see anything there that’s anti-american.

  142. kalinin is our new backman and malik wrapped into one.. he’ll he the 6th dman and hopefully overtaken before the season starts..in other news true and salty know everything

  143. “Drew Drury?!” Barrrrfff…
    Could it get any worse? Did we really need another reason to criticize our future “captain?”

    sausageinyourmouth
    I’m glad you came around.

  144. If it is true about how much of a liability Kalinen can be, then why didnt we go after jason Smith. He just signed in Ott for the same money we signed Kalinen. He is older but then again we only signed Kalinen to a one yr deal anyway. Realize Kalinen might be more offensive minded, but is that really the role he was brought in to play, when we already have , Redden, Staal even Mara that bring some offense.

  145. SeamusORiley on

    some thoughts on Dubi.

    He may end up being a 30 goal scorer on a regular basis, with 25 of those goals “Adam Graves” like; dirty, in front of the net, with a stick in his back.

    He may show up with more muscle in camp and continue to grow. Jagr taught him some skill things, and Shanny taught him some tough guy things. I think he is going to really blossom before our eyes. I am hoping Callahan shows up with 10lbs of muscle too. These guys were not interning at a fashion magazine all summer. Let’s hope, like Drury and Gomez, that they eat, drink, and sleep hockey.

  146. I saw an interview that Avery did with a publication in Dallas. They barely talked about Hockey, they were askin him what type of shoes he likes and what he thought about the Dallas fashion arena. I liked Avery a lot but sometimes he acts a lot like he should be starring in the next reincarnation of the devil wears prada, freakin homo.

  147. He better watch what he says down there or those cowboys will have him bent over their saddle with a broomstick up his a@@.

  148. Rob, you know we hit Rawhides in Chelsea from tome to time, so dont deny our ‘Brokeback relationship”, All Ranger powder true blue, lover.

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