Comments on: As Rangers disperse for summer, questions abound

By: Cary Ingram

Cary Ingram — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:42:41 +0000

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By: Salty Season'd

Salty Season'd — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:31:28 +0000

Jay:

Absolutely. People don’t realize how much Jagr held teh team down this season.

“HAY LOOK HES THARE LEADING SKORER…AND IN THE PLAYOFFS 2! U CAN’T LET HIM GO HES STILL THE BEST IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!! GOD YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB TO LET YOUR LEADING ‘GOAL GETTER’ GO ….. AND TAHTS COMING FROM A 19 YEAR OLD!!”

Blind to the fact that the “leading scorer” had what, 27 goals? We can’t revolve around Jagr. You take Jagr off this team, everyone else LEARNS HOW TO STEP IT UP.

Listen if you’ve got a Jagr netting 50 goals and 65 assists, you let him do whatever he wants, I understand that. But he’s NOT putting up those numbers, and still demanding control and minutes and people are still deferring to him when they have their own opportunities.

This team needs to now be centered around Scott Gomez and his ability to move the puck from point A to point Y, and that means we have to find someone who can move the puck from point Y to point Z. That person is not Yommy Yogger.

By: Nasty 1

Nasty 1 — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:22:15 +0000

The best way to look at what we need to do is as follows. As an organization we do not owe anyone anything. We need to do what is best for the team in moving forward. What have to do what makes sense. If we know that there are not good options for next year, then I can see signing Jagr for a year or two tops. But there is no questions that we need to part ways with Shanny and Straka. I am sorry, and I respect those guys a lot, but I want this team to change direction. The penguins have a core of young great talent, and every year that we sign these older vets is another year that we don’t have a core of good young talent. I am not saying that we don’t need a veteran presence on the team, because we do, but we have Gomez and Drury now. Those are two veteran players, that are not old and both have a lot of leadership qualities and have won cups. I invision Gomez being our number one center next year, with Drury being number two and dubinsky being number three. We need a goal scoring winger to play with Gomez. Someone who can match his speed and find openings. We all said so many times that watching Gomez skate was a thing of beauty, only problem was the guy would fly up the ice gain the zone and be all by his lonesome, and it was pretty damn sad. Someone said yesterday that Avery was faster than Gomez, and although Avery is pretty fast, Gomez is absolutely faster. I never fully appreciated what that guy can do until I have watched him more closely as a Ranger. He had a great year for us. Best Ranger in the regular season by far. Goofy grin and all.

By: Beer Me!

Beer Me! — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:18:17 +0000

what up everybody? I was away from a PC all day yesterday and it feels like a week.

I didn’t go back and read all the comments, apologies(as usual).

I haven’t changed my tune on anything yet. Still don’t want jags, straka, shanny, rozy, malik(haha), back. I also don’t know if I want to bring in kovalchuk or hossa to be honest. I just want to see a guy that plays a good ‘ol North American style game(some euros can play that way too). No spinning or fancy-shmancy plays at the blueline. Get it deep, get it on net, go to the net. Makes for MUCH better hockey. It also shows the real value of getting 40 shots on net. The shot totals we saw in some games this year were the most mis-leading stats in all the NHL this season.

I’d like to see some size, toughness & speed brought in. Up front and on the backline. Not too much to ask right?

Souray is a bad idea. He got a huge deal cuz he broke the dman pp goal record and the mtl pp was #1. Well, it was on top again this year without him. And he can’t stay healthy on top of it.

I’d like to see Mara take a pay-cut and stay. Mara, staal, girardi, toots. Not a horrible 4, and it certainly needs some size/toughness as I mentioned. Doesn’t have to be a superstar.

Both sides of the Avery negotiations have lots of ammo. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in those discussions.

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:14:43 +0000

I really think if Jagr was not permitted to de-rail the PP all season:

a) Rangers have better record and home ice adv.
b) they improve chances of winning Conf. and Cup by 50%.

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:11:03 +0000

Excellent – Thanks.

By: Salty Season'd

Salty Season'd — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:10:47 +0000

“Jaromir Jagr is STILL the most talented player in the league, by far”

You are completely, completely delusional. This actually bothers me that someone actually believes this.

“These guys may be older, but they can still hang with the younger guys, and they still surpass the younger guys in talent (Thatâ€™s coming from someone who is 19).”

What does your age have to do with NHL players ages?

Seems to me like a lot of people are not ready to let go of their childhood heroes, that’s all.

Jagr I can see an argument to bring back although I so incredibly strongly disagree with it. Shanny just has no business here, he was invisible in the playoffs and thats his bread and butter.

We need to let these guys walk and yes, possibly sacrifice a season letting the kids grow into the league without Jagr distracting everyones game.

SECOND ROUND EXITS ARE NOT STANLEY CUPS. STOP CHASING THE PLAYOFFS “JUST TO MAKE IT”.

By: Nasty 1

Nasty 1 — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:01:52 +0000

here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2US4iaPjag

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:00:27 +0000

Nasty 1 – can you grab that youtube link?

By: True Fans Bleed RW&B

True Fans Bleed RW&B — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:56:28 +0000

Mike, Kovalchuk already has a contract through 09-10 already. He’ll be a UFA come 10-11. I think he would be great for the team, remember, he has some attitude issues as well. And as far as him putting up 50 goals alone, he wasn’t exactly Alex Ovechkin (who’s turned a bunch of 3rd/4th liners into 1st liners). Kovalchuk has done it with the likes of Hossa & Savard (prior), oh, and dont’ forget about Holik and Ruchin!!! haha. j/k. Kovalchuk’s a legitimate top-5 pure sniper in the NHL.

I can’t believe some of the other things I’m reading here. SO, Shanny should use up 3rd line time? His stats playing 2nd line time (with our best center, Gomez) and on the PP Since his concussion go like this: 30-35-65 in 102 games (including playoffs). He’s only averaging 24 goals per season, granted if he plays 82 full games, and that’s using up MEGA-time. And you want to pay him $4.5-$5.5million to play on the 3rd line and produce the same amount or less? Not smart.

If you only think people are down on Shanny because of his lack of playoff production, you may have missed the PP (all year), his 5on5 play (all year, where he slowed Gomez down), and his slow skating EVERYWHERE. Shanny’s done, and if he’s not NHL “done,” I hope he’s done in NY. We don’t need any more over-priced veterans who can’t produce. Watch your hilights from 1998 to 2004 if you miss that era.