Was that really only one game?

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OK, a lot to discuss, but some of it will have to wait for tomorrow because I’m fried (caffeine count: four cups of coffee, one Diet Coke).

First off, for all the questions about whether Sidney Crosby was going to get all the calls in this series, you now may have your answer.

“I think it’s a weak call at that time in the game,” Brendan Shanahan said. “Sidney embellished and you could make the call that he was interefering with Martin Straka. It’s too bad it had to happen to a guy like Martin Straka. He’s such an honest, hard-working player… I think it was a tough call for the referee to make at that time in the game.”

Of course, regardless of whether the Crosby call was a good one or not, there is the larger issue of the Rangers coughing up a three-goal lead; and whether it has repercussions beyond just tonight. There is certainly reason to fear that, and as Jaromir Jagr said, the Rangers would have probably been better off losing 5-o rather than the manner in which they did.

But they don’t have that luxury, and now they’ll have to summon all their time-to-turn-the-page, it’s-only-one-game, Sunday’s-a-new-day mantras by practice time tomorrow.

In fact, they were already preaching as much tonight.

“It’s over. There’s nothing you can do about it,” Scott Gomez said. “Maybe when you’re younger you might dwell on it. But we’re not going to let that happen. We’re down 1-0. It doesn’t matter how you lose. There’s no use in crying over it.”

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  1. Straka got a game misconduct according to the NHL box score when the game ended. I am assuming it was for yelling at the refs.

  2. Dr. Ogrodnick bows to Leetch on

    Professional wrestling refs are better. Its pretty sad when the NHL is turning into a bigger joke than a fake sport. Way to go Bettman.

    I hope Backman and roszi enjoyed their mini vacation during the second period.

    Shanny is dead on about the call on Sidney, I rewound the DVR and I’m am almost positive that Straks didn’t even touch him. Not that we would ever get a meaningful replay on Versus. Although Brendan, you were inexplicably beaten to a puck you were clearly closer too along the boards right before the 3rd Pitt goal. Had you not been so old and done maybe you get there and clear it and the game doesn’t slip away.

  3. Repost

    When we went up 3-0 my wife asked me if I wanted to go out and catch a movie because this one was in the bag. I looked at her and said, “You silly moron, I would not be surprised if we blow this one.” I could not have been more right. Folks, I will agree that Crosby dove twice and the refs bought it twice. But you do not blow a 3 goal lead.

    With that being said I am going to say this. We have done things like this in the past and bounced right back the next game and made up for it. I fully believe that not only will we win the next game, but we will win the next 3 games. Yeah, we gave up 5 goals, but we also scored 4.

    I will guarantee you that the Penguins are definitely worried even though they won. They expect that if they are going to play run and gun that they are going to blow any team out of the water, and they didn’t. I am not suggesting that we do play run and gun, because I don’t think we can beat them in a series that way. But what I am getting at is the fact that they know damn well that we are going to play better defensively and Hank is going to have a much better game 2. But you know that it is in their heads that we scored 4 goals on them. Fleury looked very shaky. Our vets and coaching staff will know how to handle this. The team will respond and win the next game. If Renney is thinking about tinkering with the D and sitting someone, I am all for Tyutin sitting. I don’t know what the hell happened with him. He looked awful in this game, and didn’t play too well in the first series either.

    And lastly, Game 1 is all that it is, Game 1. I do not believe that the winner of this game will win the series. The last time the Rangers went to the conference finals they lost the first game of both the first two series to only go on and sweep the rest of the way. The year we won the cup we lost the first game of both the last two series and well, the rest is history. Chins up ranger fans, we are going to be ok here. The rust has shaken off and lessons were learned. It wasn’t a blowout and we easily could have won this game. Trust the old Nasty 1 here.

  4. Dr. Ogrodnick bows to Leetch on

    Sooooo,
    should we expect Bettman an the NHL to make the Ruutu rule tomorrow?

  5. Good post Nasty. I hope you’re right about game 2. We need it. We have to play better in the same way, and yes, Tyutin was bad again. I don’t like call on Straka but come on, they were better team…

  6. reginald dunlop on

    Ha Ha Ha………what else can you do but laugh……it has gotten to that point……since the lockout the nhl has gone to try to make the game and players closer to the fans…..hence all the interviews. the on the bench stuff etc……….now it is time that the players have to answer all the questions and the coaches have to answer all the questions…….NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE THE REFEREES ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKE THEM ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL…….AT LEAST GET THE SERIES SUPERVISOR BOB HALL TO EXPLAIN SUTHERLAND’S VIEWPOINT ON THE CALL AND THE NO CALL ON THE STRAKA CROSSCHECK IN THE CREASE JUST PRIOR BY HAL GILL…COME ON MEDIA GUYS, GET SOME STONES AND GET THE LEAGUE TO GIVE YOU ACCESS TO THE REFEREES OR AT LEAST THE SUPERVISOR AFTER THE GAMES…..WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY????????? NHL HOLDING ON TO THE OLD WAY OF KEEPING THE REFEREES SAFE FROM THE QUESTIONING OF THEIR CALLS……REAL GUTSY CALL GIVING STRAKA A MISCONDUCT ON YOUR SCREWUP…..JAGR, WATCH HIM WITH PUCK, SKATES MOST OF THE GAME WITH A STICK ACROSS HIS WAIST….WHY WASN’T STRAKA GIVEN A WARNING LIKE RUUTU??? AND WHERE WAS THE BLATANT SLEWFOOT HE GAVE JAGR FROM BEHIND CAUSING HIM TO FALL BACKWARDS……COULDVE CRACKED HIS HEAD ON ICE…PROTECT THE PLAYERS ….JUST AN EMBARASSMENT…AND WHY AGAIN IS KERRY FRASER AND DAVE JACKSON SITTING AT HOME IN THE SECOND ROUND???????????? ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, GET SOME ANSWERS…..GET IN FRANK BROWN’S EARS, LORD KNOWS EASY ACCESS WITHOUT ANY HAIR IN WAY………GET ON IT SAM….

  7. I thought before this game Crosby was a whiner, embellisher and diver. I also thought the refs would show favoritism towards the golden boy. Thank goodness I was proven wrong. I apologize. :p

  8. onecupin67years on

    The last thing any Professional league wants is a close game decided by the refs. An obvious call can’t be but often is ignored in the waning moments. Tonite’s game was the exception, two players jostling and up goes the hand. Is this what Bettman wants? What has he done since he came into the league? Expansion beyond competitiveness, turning the league organic,into mediocrity.

    The pens were a dying club ,riddled with debt and lo and behold Mario gets his “Toy” saviour -Crosby.Fix ? Nah .

    The NHL would love the Pens and co. to win,and a whining Crosby is getting his way .

    Too bad, tonite’s game was a disaster, from the way Versus handled the broadcast,the fact that the NHL is on VS. and the way the game was refereed.
    The NHL will never be a major force on a major U.S. network, just NBC on spring afternoons to paltry ratings. nascar outviews the NHL

  9. reginald dunlop on

    you should get a job with the league jonny……almost as good as deflecting realism as they are…… Dawes again a non-entity……looks as lost as jonny d’s posts…….maybe time to insert prucha there……..rozsival horrible game….out for a skate at blueline on first goal……. on the pens fourth goal tyutin didnt play shooter or the pass……gotta prevent one of them…….

  10. Crosby is a disgrace and so is the ref Sutherland … what a dive …

    Rangers need to move on though … I play Malik and Prucha and sit Sjostrom and Backman .. but it ain’t gonna happen.

  11. i still cant sleep. the rangers must win sunday…and the fans on tuesday at the garden better make sid the crybaby…actually cry. im so sick of this bias crap the nhl is pulling. im convinced something is up.

  12. Richtersgirl on

    koffy…sit sjostrom??? Why in the world would you sit him??? I’m sorry i cannot understand that. He is becoming one of my fav players on the team.

  13. Sjustrom should not sit…

    the rangers did make mistakes etc. but the refs stink.. 2 crosby calls were made, they both were phantom, and on both he fell. is this a coincedence??the Dubinsky trip his stick never hit crosby or his skates look at the replay.

    The refs are a joke, this is a disgrace, and anyone with a brain and eyes saw it.

    the straka penalty, crosby was over 8 feet from the puck that was swatted away from hossa further away from crosby come on man that is a DISGRACE..

  14. The Rangers lost this game because they stopped hitting. They were outhit by the Ice Chickens. They tried to sit on that lead and not force the play. The defense was horrible because the forwards stopped checking. They can’t do it alone. Tyutin was terrible. Bad laterals in the n-zone. Orr was ineffective on the checking line. Too slow. Like it or not Hollweg needs to go back in or Prucha. Prucha will is fast and will hit people.

    And for Godsake, if Cindy Crosby is going to draw a penalty because a Ranger breathes on him, the Rangers should make the penalty worthwhile. The NHL’s posterboy should be spitting out teeth. He won’t photograph well without those pearly whites in his precious little mouth.

  15. I thought very early in the game it was evident that Hollweg needs to go back in. Crosby rode right through some pretty big hits and never lost the puck… I dont think thats would hapen if Hollweg lined him up though

  16. Wait, it’s ok for the coach to break and toss a stick on the ice and three Devils players to surround the officials at the end of the game with no call – plus a yelling match by the GM that security had to be called to keep the press at bay. But Straka gets a misconduct for a touch of lip on a cheap Cindy prat fall?

    Come on, get it right. If Stan the Islander has a problem with the call that really says something!

  17. Salty I agree with you. If we are not going to be fighting, Colton does not need to be in the lineup, and I really did not have any problem with Hollweg in the first round.

  18. I am not going to blame this on the refs guys, sure Sidney gets to play with his own set of rules, but we know this already, so we have to be prepared for it. It is sad that teams are going to now have to be coached in a “special” way just to play the Penguins though. But I am sticking to my post from late last night. We blew a 3 goal lead and that is our own fault. The BS call at the end of the game should not have decided the game.

    I am confident we will learn from this and move on. Tighter D and better decisions with the puck. If the trend from last game continues we might want to consider some line juggling. Let’s Go Rangers!

  19. Why wasn’t Jerko Ruutu called for the stick incident on Roszival during the 2nd period and why wan’t Michel Therrien not called for cursing out the official after the official explained why Drury’s goal counted. This series will be called so one sided and Cindy Crosby will get away with all that diving. I still say Rangers in 6

  20. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Where’s Staal Wart and all the guys who love this Rangers defense?

    Five goals against Hank is nowhere indicative of his performance tonight, not one was a bad goal. It could have also been a blow-out against the Rangers very early on.

    This defense is bad. I don’t know what further proof you guys need, it is just bad.

    On a positive spin, Jagr and Hank looked pretty good tonight. Even Drury looked good and scored (what I thought) would serve as a BIG goal. Staal played alright. Tyutin and Rozy were, as usual, awful.

    The call against Straka, perhaps, could’ve been overlooked. But it wasnt completed fabricated and the Rangers did get outplayed 45 of the 60 minutes in this game. You know what they say about Karma.

  21. Re-Repost

    Repost

    When we went up 3-0 my wife asked me if I wanted to go out and catch a movie because this one was in the bag. I looked at her and said, “You silly moron, I would not be surprised if we blow this one.” I could not have been more right. Folks, I will agree that Crosby dove twice and the refs bought it twice. But you do not blow a 3 goal lead.

    With that being said I am going to say this. We have done things like this in the past and bounced right back the next game and made up for it. I fully believe that not only will we win the next game, but we will win the next 3 games. Yeah, we gave up 5 goals, but we also scored 4.

    I will guarantee you that the Penguins are definitely worried even though they won. They expect that if they are going to play run and gun that they are going to blow any team out of the water, and they didn’t. I am not suggesting that we do play run and gun, because I don’t think we can beat them in a series that way. But what I am getting at is the fact that they know damn well that we are going to play better defensively and Hank is going to have a much better game 2. But you know that it is in their heads that we scored 4 goals on them. Fleury looked very shaky. Our vets and coaching staff will know how to handle this. The team will respond and win the next game. If Renney is thinking about tinkering with the D and sitting someone, I am all for Tyutin sitting. I don’t know what the hell happened with him. He looked awful in this game, and didn’t play too well in the first series either.

    And lastly, Game 1 is all that it is, Game 1. I do not believe that the winner of this game will win the series. The last time the Rangers went to the conference finals they lost the first game of both the first two series to only go on and sweep the rest of the way. The year we won the cup we lost the first game of both the last two series and well, the rest is history. Chins up ranger fans, we are going to be ok here. The rust has shaken off and lessons were learned. It wasn’t a blowout and we easily could have won this game. Trust the old Nasty 1 here.

  22. The only reason I posted that again, is because I think I made some excellent points. We need to just relax and realize it was just one game. ONE GAME!

  23. The one thing I do agree with is that if we are going to take penalties on Cindy, we need to really TAKE PENALTIES. Make him pay out there. We need to hit these guys hard and make them panic more when they have the puck and cause turnovers. I realize that this is a harder task against a much better, faster, and stronger on their skates team, but we can punish them. We did during the regular season and we can do it now.

    I hate doing it, but I have to say that the mini battle within the battle last night goes like this. Ruutu 1 Avery 0. Even though they both scored a goal Ruutu was more effective last night.

    I fully expect that this changes tomorrow.

  24. Sam, which loss do you think is tougher for this team. The OT loss in Game 3 of the first round or last night?

    I think a lot of people can argue that we still lack the killer instinct that a lot of teams would have when up by 3 goals and just really go for the throat. I will say that I buy in to that a little bit. But also remember when we gave up a 5 goal lead in the regular season to the Habs and lost in the shootout, we came back after that game on one of the best streaks out of any team all year.

    There are reasons to worry about last night’s loss, but there are also so many reasons to believe that this team will bounce right back.

    I choose to believe we will be fine and again learn from this. I am sticking to my prediction of us winning the next 3 games in a row and still finishing this in 6.

    If I am wrong I will openly admit I was wrong, but I haven’t been wrong that often this season and I really really believe in this team.

    Let’s Go Rangers!

  25. True Fans Bleed RW&B on

    Nasty, I agree with every single point you made, except the Ruutu vs. Avery. Ruutu was just as ineffective as Avery and if you consider Avery taking a golf-like hack at Cindy Crawford’s face, Avery was more effective. This game was decided by the tempo the Rangers tried to set (keeping up with the Penguins), and Fleury’s inability to stop the puck.

    The Rangers defense needs to be better, especially Rozsival and Tyutin. No defensman was worse than those two.

    The Rangers need to start hitting guys, and playing smart defensively. They were running all over the ice and missing defensive coverage.

    Dawes and Callahan need to start contributing like they were in the season.

    And, you’re totally right, if you’re going to take a penalty…make it a REAL penalty.

  26. Doodie, do we shave our beards and start over again for this series? I am not sure. Maybe we shave off the bad and start over fresh for the next game? Let me know your thoughts. Anyone else can chime in as well.

  27. You are right Nasty 1, we need to relax this will be a long series, and no do not shave unless we are eliminated

  28. True Fans you are right. We need to play OUR game and not THEIRS! It really is as simple as that. We win when the whole team plays Renney’s system. Just because their goalie looked shaky doesn’t mean we start to play pond hockey with these guys.

    Did anyone else pick up Gomez’s comment at the end of his interview last night where he says, “We just have to pick up the back of our pants and get back at it on Sunday.”? It was something along those lines, and he definitely said, “Pick up the back of our pants.” I wonder if he was saying that he thinks the team got F**ked in the A*s with the late call last night, or if he just meant that they have to pick themselves up and get back at it.

    Anyone else give that statement any thought?

  29. Nasty-right as usual. It’s one game, the goal is always to steal one game and take home ice. We knew we were going to get screwed by the refs. Let’s take the next game. The Pens didn’t look all the almighty for much of the game, the Rangers just have to shut them down for 60 minutes.

    Tyutin, another horrible game last night. He was a tweener all night. I was sooooo pissed after the game. I told my wife that I’m going into the basement (good luck tv) and for her to leave me alone. Last year during game 6 vs Buffalo, she bothered me during that game and Buffalo scored the game winner. So with instructions to leave me alone, what does she do? She keeps calling me, I finally ask what, and boom Pitt scores. She gives me the baby and before I can sit down, boom 3-2. She didn’t give up the lead but every time she bothers me during a playoff game, the other team scores. Anyway, we did some baby making this am, so I’m not pissed at her.

    LGR!

  30. One game. That’s it. No more. No less. Did anyone think we would sweep the Pens? I didn’t.

    I had a birthday party to go to, so I originally was going to DVR the game. When I got to the bar, the last thing I expected was to see the game on. So I became a social invalid and just sat there watching the game. I didn’t have any sound or replay, so I could not fully digest the game.

    In any event, this game proved we can play with these guys 100%. We gave up 4 in a row and then had the b*lls to come back and tie it up. The calls were questionable, but what are you going to do?

    We had a 3 goal lead and we got too cocky. But also, not too many of the goals that the Pens scored were clean, great plays. Maybe 1 or 2 were OK, but again we fell victim to some zany deflections. It happens. Hopefully we get the luck next game. That being said, we did have a little luck on Straka’s goal.

    I am not even going to comment on the refs, it seemed like a joke. All I will say is that the inconsistency is horrendous. It seems like at times they let things go cuz they missed a call previously and then other times they make a call because they let one go earlier that they should not have. It is BS. The refs do a horrible job. I think it would be interesting for the refs to have press conferences at the end of games too.

    Onwards and upwards, I am hardly nervous for the series. We’ll be fine. A little more killer instinct and a little more full-time, full-game effort. And lastly, a little better execution when we don’t have any real play and need to be safe (like getting it out of the zone, dumping it into the zone, etc).

    Unfortunately I did not see the game up close in my living room so I am unable to tell you who the real invisible guys were and who had bad games to the extreme. Orr versus Hollweg? Not sure. It was Orr’s first game back after a month or more, so I think they will give him another game. Someone said Dawes was invisible. I agree I didn’t see him much. Defensively, after seeing some highlights, Rosy and Backman looked soft. Generally I think our D played poorly.

    We’ll be fine. A little more aggressive and a little more surefooted throughout in game 2 hopefully.

    LGR!

  31. i know it was only one game but i feel like crap today this blows. i hope they can rebound from this they need to win sunday. then its a brand new series and no way are we letting that bitch crosby in the garden without boooing him right out the door. i actually at first didnt agree with booing him when he got to the garden but now it must happen.

    RANGER FANS TUESDAY NIGHT WE ARE ALL BOOING CROSBY…

  32. Agree if someone is going to get two mins for a penalty on Crosby, make it an elbow to the jaw during a check, with the potential to knock him out, rather than a hook or a hold, PLEASE!

  33. We need to be more physical in front of Hank, but let’s face it, this has been a problem all year. I think we need to create more dump and chase pressure deep in Pittsburgh zone. This may be the only team left in the playoffs with a weaker D than NYR. Third man high is not going to work in this series. We need to take try to wear out Gonchar, Letang, Orpick et al. Pound these guys deep. Need Freddy Shoes, Cally and Dubi to do some heavy lifting.
    LGR

  34. How about Putting Shanny on the fourth line and putting Sjostrom on the line with Gomez and Avery? Sjostrom is fast as all hell.

  35. I think Sjoestrom is a third line guy with the potential to score 15 goals. The problem is that switching Shanny to the 4th line makes him useless. Who’s gonna get him the puck in the high slot…Orr?

  36. The kid is going to get his chances, and there is no way to prevent him from this, but we can limit his chances by clogging up the middle and taking away space. Yup, we have to play the trap and then counter on their mistakes and weak defense.

    Another positive is that Jagr looked great last night and skated like a man possessed. Gill didn’t look like he really got the better of him. The guys who we signed have been contributing and we need the youngsters to contribute to this series just like the first.

  37. Agreed, but maybe limited time and time on the power play is what his old body needs. We can play him on that line on a few shifts, but aside from the goal in game one vs. the devils, he hasn’t looked too great in the offensive zone.

  38. Look, I hope nobody jumps down my throat for suggesting a line change, but maybe against this team that is much more offensive, we need to make a change or two. Would a fourth line of Prucha Betts Shanahan be ineffective?

    Straka Dubi Jagr
    Avery Gomez Dawes/Sjostrom
    Dawes/Sjostrom Drury Callahan
    Prucha Betts Shanahan

    Maybe we don’t need Orr or Hollweg in this series? I don’t know, it is just me thinking out loud here.

  39. The Pens ate up our Carvel soft-serve defense. A couple of unfortunate bounces and a puck that somehow went through the skate of Gomez didn’t help either. The Rangers’ slot has been open all season and the pens capitalized on it once and almost twice, which means that either the center, wing, or coaching staff needs to fix something there. Why did Girardi drill guys earlier in the season and last year to the point where he became my favorite player… To now have no shred of physical presence? Did they teach him that? He couldn’t have woken up one morning and decided to just play like a wimp. We all knew that we would have to overcome some [ahem] terrific officiating, but just like the Jersey series, we’ll just have to manage. The PP needs to score on their 2-3 chances a game and our PK needs to stop at least 5-6 a game, whatever, live with it, it will just prove who is really the better team. I apologize for the lack of paragraphs, but I didn’t want a penalty called on me for delay of game…

  40. Honestly, the Rangers really didn’t look great for much of the night and probably didn’t deserve to be up 3-0 when they were. Poor puck support in their own zone all night, Backman looks scared out there which means he really has to come out(despite us replacing him with Malik). I don’t think they “stopped playing” – I think they didn’t play a good game at all but found themselves up 3-0 because the Pens defense and goaltending clearly is nothing special and so they made no effort to correct everything they were doing wrong. Now they’ll have to and hopefully we’ll see better results. The truth is the Rangers, i addition to 4 goals, had TONS of great looks at the net, probably more than they had in an entire series against Jersey. If they can just tighten up a little defensively, I think they’ll be fine.

    One thing’s for sure – if the Rangers lose this eries it definitely won’t be because Fleury outplayed Lundqvist – it will be because our team makes too many costly mistakes that are capitalized on. In that respect, the Rangers do control their destiny and overall I still think are the better team.

  41. We weren’t blown out of the rink last night. The Pens are a good offensive team. If we can create a bit more offensively and cause their D to cough it up, I think we will get a W on Sunday. I just hope we don’t come out too tight.

  42. Very hard loss to take, but this team has heart & has bounced back all year, & will do so Sunday. Nothing has changed. We still only need to win 1 out of first 2 to take over home ice advantage, just like before game 1, and we can still do that on Sunday.
    Both teams got bounces & breaks, just that Pens got a little more including that weak penalty call at the end.
    I didn’t even know a puck could ever get thru the space between the skate blade & the boot like it did on that one goal for another deflection.
    Good news is that Pens are easier to score off than Devils. Bad news is they are so much more potent that defense has to be tighter than it was in Game 1.
    Go Rangers.

  43. New Newman, I think you and I were at the same party.

    I watched under the same circumstances and you are right. Without distraction of commentary, you definitely got the feeling that we can go with these guys. As bad as we were defensively we just barely lost the game. We can only get better from there.

    A Game 1 after a long layoff is rarely an accurate guage for the rest of the series. Expecting a much more disciplined Game 2 performance.

  44. Nasty, the beard must continue to grow! DO NOT SHAVE!

    As for game 2, the Rangers can’t win the series there, but they can certainly lose it.

    How Renney didn’t call a timeout after the first two goals is beyond me. They score on you twice in 14 seconds, you’ve GOTTA call your timeout and get your guys to refocus. Instead, they tried to skate with the Penguins and were beaten soundly.

    I have to blame the breakdown on Renney. For as perfect of a game plan he had coming into the game, and how well they executed in the first half of the game, he’s gotta be held accountable for not being able to keep his players doing it.

    Someone might say that Pittsburgh was controlling the play during the first half of the game, and they would be right. But Reney wasn’t trying to control the play so much as control the Penguins’ play. They didn’t really get any good chances until Dupuis’ goal.

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