Something’s gotta give


I’m not sure you’re legally allowed to use the phrase “must win” for a game in the second week of January. If you do, they put you in some hockey-writer prison where you can only watch an endless loop of Dancing Larry, and the press room meal is an alarming-colored fiish.

The point is, at least for the Rangers’ psyches, for their increasingly frustrated fans, and of course, given their precarious spot in the standings, tonight comes close.

Just think, a week ago at this point, the Rangers were winners of three straight, and all was right in their world. Of course, a week ago, I only had one child, which is to say, a lot can change in a week.

Some updates:

<li>Tom Renney said Marek Malik will skate in the warm-ups, but likely won’t play.

<li>Antero Nittymaki is in net for the Flyers,. The goaltender has been hot of late, but the Rangers had success against him last season, scoring 18 goals on him in six games last season.

<li>The remaining Eastern Conference All-Stars will be  announced tomorrow  at noon. Conventional wisdom says the Rangers will have only one player selected, and it will almost certainly be Henrik Lundqvist. If there’s a second, you’d think it’d be Scott Gomez, but I wouldn’t dismiss Michal Rozsival.

More later…

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  1. At least we know the 4th line won’t play 18 minutes tonight. Dawes, Dubi and Pru are the 4th line now. They’ll play 8.

  2. Alright, I’m going to the game tonight, so I don’t want any undue “shoot” calls or booing, and I want to be Malik-less. Hopefully a 5-2 victory to get us rolling again.

    The All-Star Game would probably choose Rozsival before Gomez because Rozy has goals while Gomez has assists, good stats relative to their positions.

  3. This has been a season of waiting for good things to start happening… they haven’t and unless something changes (luck… personell… philosophy… etc.) they won’t.

    All season long this team has been trying to figure out how to not beat themselves. Something different has to take hold at some point. Someone has to step up… the coach, the captain, a role player, a veteran, a rookie… anyone.

    If not this game then… are they going to wait until the next game to do something about the severe underachieving? The next week? The All Star break? If so, I truely believe the hole will be too deep by then.

  4. Doodie Machetto on

    Salty, read up about Patrick Roy’s coaching career on his wikipedia page. Since they’ve got Schoenfeld pegged to be GM, Roy might make a good coach. He is currently both the GM and Coach for the Quebec Ramparts of the QMJHL. When the Avs switched GMs there was a lot of chatter about him taking the job, but he declined. I think he would be excellent, and what a mentor to have for Henrik!

  5. This is definitely a BIG GAME for them tonight. If they don’t play well I’m going to move from feeling disappointment about the season, to feeling sorry for them. They need to have something positive happen, like any win whatsoever.
    I think they will come out flying.

  6. “Nyr56
    January 10th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
    Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle”


  7. Alexander Ovechkin is going to be sticking around Washington for the long haul as he has signed the biggest contract in the history of the NHL Thursday by agreeing to a 13 year extension with the Capitals worth a whopping $124 million.

  8. czechthemout!!!!! on

    The Tom Renney allstar forward team:






    Kevin Weeks

    Now that’s a great lineup!

    The sad thing is that there were several games last year when most of these players were in the lineup at the same time.

  9. game misconduct on

    the craps will pass the Rangers soon too if they don’t start winning. and guess how. they made a COACHING CHANGE.

    Boudreau has them playing well. they got rid of former ranger sieve glen hanlon.

  10. Doodie Machetto on

    That goal could not be more ironic given the conversation of the past couple of days.

  11. Well, for all of the fans who complained that the fourth line doesn’t score for the past two days, whats next to complain about since the fourth line just scored the first goal of the game.

  12. game misconduct on

    the only way you can score when playing with Betts is to get a rebound because he is a pitiful passer.

  13. two goals tonight for the 4th line but I’m sure people will find something to complain about.

  14. tom g glad you’re happy with how they’ve been doing this season.Does complaining affect you or them?

  15. tom some PP not getting it done huh? Need a killer instinct. Oh I forgot you’re happy with all.

  16. They really should have him out the PP for hilarity sake. Parked him in front of the net and see what happens.

  17. bklynblue,
    well, it surely doesn’t effect the rangers because they don’t hear you and it only effects me when all i read is people complaining about this and about that. I’m happy as long as the rangers make the playoffs and like I’ve said before since the rangers play in the eastern conference they have a good chance of making the playoffs. Winning the division means nothing anymore.

  18. Just tuned it…
    What gives? Holly with two netters?

    How funny would it be if he has a hat trick tonight and ends up on the season with 3 goals?

  19. bklynblue,
    unless I missed something, where did I state that I am happy with all but complaining about it endlessly isn’t going to change the situation.

  20. “Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together – mass hysteria!”

    Doodie- great Ghostbusters quote!

    Put Hollweg out on the PP and have him stand in front of the net for the trick!

  21. Yorktown Ranger on

    All right boys, instead of arguing amongst ourselves someone explain to me about the call on Drury.

    Rule 88 addresses throwing the stick at the puck or opposing player. I can’t find any reference about throwing the stick to another player (on your team of course).

    Anyone clarify this for me?

  22. tom “two goals tonight for the 4th line but I’m sure people will find something to complain about.” why didn’t you just stop at line? You had to add the but , and I think it was unnecessary and I’m calling you out on it. Need more?

  23. game misconduct on

    so Joe M. defends Bobby goonery Clarke. then I don’t want to hear a peep out of him when a Ranger gets cheap-shotted by a Flyer.

  24. Agreed G.Misconduct…

    Hate to break it to you Joe M not EVERY PLAYER in NHL would do that. No get out of the booth.

  25. bklynblue,

    “but you think I’ll let you get the last word in, Wrong!”
    like I said juvenile, you sound like a kid, grow up man, get a life please!!!
    This has nothing to do with getting the last word in, ok, you had a problem with me saying “people complaining” not that big of a deal, get over it man.

  26. Tom , don’t tell me what to do. Take it on a hop & take your name calling home little boy.

  27. Henrik in the all star game!!!!!!!!

    he is now past a slump and flat out playing bad.. the 2nd and 3rd goal was his fault.. the ruzicka goal henrik left the creas(he is not good at that) and the rest is ugly.

    the hartnell goal was like the 5th time this yr. they scored a goal off his back or side.

    henrik is becoming avg or worse….what is up with him?????

  28. czechthemout!!!!! on

    bklynblue –

    Ignore that TomG guy,He is a bleeding heart Renneyader!


    the flyer goalie also gave up two bad goals,but the difference is that thier coach has made an adjust to the way his team was playing and ours is just standing thier behind the bench doing and saying nothing!!

  29. longtimerangersfan on

    I predict a Rangers 5-3 win…hahahahahaha…sorry did I laugh out loud.

    Seriously, what’s wrong with the King???????????

  30. Sitting here listen to all the coaches in the stands sucks we need a sick third period amd if not its paniac button time

  31. czechthemout!!!!! on

    This game turned when our esteemed “captain”took a dumb lazy hooking penalty to negate a powerplay that could have buirired the flyers and his coach was too afraid of him to hold him accountable by benching him for the rest of that period wich would have been the right move.I think the king has more than deseved for his team to bail him out in a game or two this far throught two periods Renney is once again being outmatched and out coached!

  32. Doodie Machetto on

    He needs to get his head in the game or get out. He is so casual it is really getting disgusting.

  33. Doodie Machetto on

    Try and guess who I’m talking about! the fact that after I read it and realized it could apply to a lot of players says a lot about the team.

    PS, I was talking about Lundqvist and his penchant for soft and fluke goals.

  34. Doodie i was taking that as three different rangers.

    I am not hitting panic button but my g/f is..She can’t take the yelling any more.

  35. NO. NO.

    They’ll be fine… all you fair weather fans are worrying too much.

    Sure they will. Sure.

    They’re fine. Hollweg provides all the offense tonight… the defense first system gives up 4 or 5 a night…
    people are clammering for Renney’s head, Jagr to be benched, Montoya to take Hank’s place.

    Fine. Everything is fine.

  36. that is all you need to see. goal post on the ranger end, breakaway on the other end.

    the rangers need to make a move. Henrik is playing bad and they cannot score enough that is a problem and I have to listen to the Philly telecast..\\Drury stick boroke on a slash or whoever and the rangers get a penalty for a 2 man disadvantage.

    Ouch they are in a bad funk

  37. HORRIBLE FUNK…..They really do need to do something to help PP.

    Score on one of the 3 in first and it is a totally different game.

  38. yea flyers telecast are horrible jim jackson and steve coats are the two biggest homers ive ever listened to

  39. game misconduct on

    only a moron would jump on Lundy for 1 bad stretch after he has led them the last 2 years. if it had been weekes the past 2 years they would have missed the playoffs both years.

  40. captain hook. how many lazy hooking penalties does jagr take per year. way too many. some leader

  41. i think we have got to the point were its no longer a bad funk but just a bad team, overal just terrible hockey

  42. longtimerangersfan on

    Jagr got booed…now we will see some serious sulking. Give the C to anyone but him. Where is Orty?

  43. that guy who loves the rangers on

    It’s really starting to get annoying watching this type of playing day-in-and-day out (O how wonderful now its 6-2) Their really needs to be some type of change somewhere. Trading Malik, Prucha and someone else for a decent puck-moving defenseman and maybe another rugged forward. That wouldn’t be bad to see.

  44. There’s not much more to say folks.

    This is not a playoff hockey team. I expect a move by this time next week, I think Prucha/Malik are gone.

  45. stf (anti-Dolan) on

    How about sell this miserable team among with Knick to somebody who can run the sports franchise?
    How about fire Renney?
    How about sit Henrik until he finds real himself?


    I knew not to watch it.

    Thanks God, Giants play on Sunday.

  46. let’s see the media gloss over this one too.

    tell us how renney is such a great coach with a brilliant system

  47. No No… this is just one of those games…you know
    every team has one…right? Just bad game…we can’t expect them to play great every night…right.

    I’m embarrassed…
    Trade who you want just keep Staal.
    I love Sam, “the Rangers need to re-group”…HA HA
    YOU THINK!!!!!

  48. longtimerangersfan on

    This was just brutal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry if I’m a whiner.

  49. i actually wouldnt mind seeing the betts line play more powerplays it was actually entertaining

  50. thank god they are playing a defensive system, imagine the score if they open it up. you have to wonder if this team is coached at all. why is henrik still in to suffer this humiliation. sather needs to take a look at his and do something before the young players psyche is destroyed by the non-coach.

  51. stf (anti-Dolan) on

    Big money for s*** play. Sather & Renney brilliant tactics.
    Let’s drink Guinness – BRILLIANT!!! :)

  52. strip the “C” off that effin Jagr. he is no leader of anything . let him sulk in hartford for a couple games to make a statement.

  53. Like I’ve been saying, and now worse. Other than that 9-1 stretch, 11-18-5. Just a very bad team that played well for a few weeks. Let’s stop kidding ourselves. You are what your record says you are.

  54. what a joke, having a “rasslin” actor doing the post game show hosting. why not have mean gene take over for trautwig too.

  55. longtimerangersfan on

    January 10th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
    There’s not much more to say folks.

    This is not a playoff hockey team. I expect a move by this time next week, I think Prucha/Malik are gone.

    And hopefully, Renney.

  56. What’s the point in being angry? You can’t get blood from a stone. This is the team the Rangers have. There’s no getting around it.

    Just sit back and hope for a good draft pick.

  57. Fire sale time!! Get all the draft picks you can, crash and burn then draft high!!

    Strong draft next June!

  58. longtimerangersfan on

    Time to bring some more over-the-hill “superstars” to bail out the sinking boat.

  59. czechthemout!!!!! on

    LI Joe-are you sure you wan’t this group to be in charge of the draft after Jessiman,korpikoski,bruce graham,darin oliver,and some others.And after listening to this buffoon coach in the post game I can understand why they may have tuned him out.

  60. longtimerangersfan on

    I’m gonna sign off and go watch the “Oh Baby” tape again…maybe Miracle, I dunno.

  61. “Where are all the Pollyanna’s now?”

    working in the media.

    you watch, not one will even remotely call for Renney’s head, or say a bad word about him.

  62. Czech, next years draft is pretty strong so even if you had a monkey throw darts at the choices, it will be tough not to get a good player. Of course the monkey may be smarter than the Rangers!!!

  63. Jess, at BB, is the biggest turncoat. Hhe’s giving Czech shit over at BB. He was anti Ranger management for years when he was a regular poster at the NY Times. He even called Diamos out. I don’t recognize him any more. It seems when Dubi gave him a job reporting for him, he became a shill for management.

    Did he sell out?? You be the judge!!

  64. There may be three of us coming to play golf in Feb. If so, we can meet up with you and have our foursome. I’m sure there are Motels nearby. Just have to try to get everybody together.

  65. longtimerangersfan on

    January 10th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
    There may be three of us coming to play golf in Feb. If so, we can meet up with you and have our foursome. I’m sure there are Motels nearby. Just have to try to get everybody together.

    Got room here…rooms are cheap…kind of a flea bag though.

  66. czechthemout!!!!! on


    very disapointed in Jess.He’s turned into another Stuart that putz from La who’s not man enough to confront me on a blog that isn’t delayed like this one.He’s being a brown nose and is afraid to be bitch slapped by me!He’s trying to endear himself to Jess.

  67. considering the sad state of the knicks i dont see any hope of changes with the rangers. dolan loves sather and theres the biggest problem. as long as dolan is ok with the knicks he’s ok with the rangers. the rangers are in trouble.sather must go and a new gm needs to be hired with a different vision. the flyers were awful and in one year holmgen turned them around. the youngsters dont stand a chance with this management team. the vets get away with poor play and the youngsters go back and forth to hartford. very sad.

  68. Doodie Machetto on

    “why not have mean gene take over for trautwig too.”

    hahaha. I would go for that just because I hate Trautwig. What a tool.

  69. there will be changes in Toronto. they are down 4-0 in the 1st period in LA after getting embarrassed last night 5-0.

    goodbye Maurice. and Mats Sundin will be traded for sure.

    how about Drury and prucha and Malik for Mats.

  70. Hey, we’d love our Captain Clutch back….. send him home! Our Sabres are in the same boat you guys are in … a sinking one….our young guys are lost without our leaders… In your case, it looks more like round holes with square pegs, nothing fits! Don’t know which situation is worse to be in… our $52 million dollar man Vanek isn’t living up to expectations…. Looking forward to the upcoming matchup on Wednesday night… maybe we could make a swap then!

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