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The Rangers had a memo taped to the bulletin board here about what they should wear today and tomorrow at West Point. Every player may have seen it, but not every player necessarily understood it.

So there was Rangers coach Tom Renney standing in front of the board with 19-year-old Russian Artem Anisimov, who presumably speaks as much English as I speak Russian. Renney pointed to the board, started acting out slowly what it meant, then asked Anisimov if he understood.

The Russian nodded blankly. Here’s hoping he doesn’t show up in a tuxedo.

Meanwhile, some notes from today’s double session, with half the players skating in one practice, and the other half skating in the other (As I write this, a third wave of the recently released Hartford players is on the ice):

  • The Nigel Dawes experiment continues: the left wing again skated on the top line alongside Scott Gomez and Jaromir Jagr in practice. Other lines in the second session had Petr Prucha and Marcel Hossa playing with Chris Drury, while Tom Pyatt, Lauri Korpikoski, and Colton Orr comprised another. (The Rangers other top forwards, including Sean Avery, Brendan Shanahan, Martin Straka and Ryan Callahan all skated in the earlier session).

    Afterward Renney was asked if he relished having so many options at his disposal up front, this just a year after having the likes of Jason Ward and Adam Hall to work with). The coach went out of his way to say it was early and that he didn’t want to get ahead of himself. Of course, he was smiling and sitting forward in his chair when he said it.

  • Andrew Hutchinson made his first real impact of training camp when he took a puck to the nose, and had blood running down his face as a result. Ever the warrior, he never even left the ice.
  • A quick word about Jason Strudwick, who is one of those veteran defensemen that is complicating the picture on the backline. It is obvious he does not have as much upside as a Marc Staal or even a Thomas Pock. But it is also obvious that the Rangers love having him around because of his personality, and his versatility. An example, many said, was his attitude in practices last year during the playoffs, when he couldn’t even play, and yet he still worked as hard as anyone. Immensely popular in the room, Strudwick is probably an easier player to keep around as a seventh defenseman as opposed to someone who needs to be playing every night to be effective.

    Something to keep in mind as the preseason unfolds….

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    1. Sam, any sense that Prucha has gotten stronger or heavier? Is he getting pushed to the ice in camp as much as he does during the season?

    2. Sam thanks for the update on Dawes. Whats your sense on his chances of making the club this year? How does he look with gomer and jags? Is he strong on his skates or getting knocked off the puck? give us some more details. thanks for the staal update.

      How does that waste of a roster spot Malik look?

      Matt

    3. Elk Attack Survivor on

      Sam, can you compare and contrast Jessiman and Hossa?

      And why aren’t Tyutin and/or Kasparaitis helping Anisimov with English?

    4. SAM – Question for ya…

      Haven’t hear danything about Hollweg this pre-season. Has he lost his edge or, more probably, is it soemthingthat will come out when he can hit an opposing player. Whatever the case, he seems to be a player that needs to improve all parts of his game to get ice time…and not just hit…Doesn’t sound like he’s making any stride..especially in comparison to the rising youngsters….Any thoughts? (That goes for anybody on here)

    5. Here’s a thought: Hollweg’s an experiment that should have been abandoned long ago. Sorry to everyone that loves his “grit” and “heart” but his lack of skills has become too great a minus to ignore.

      Of course, that’s just a thought.

    6. I think Hollwegs roster spot should be in jeopardy. With so many youngsters on the verge Hollweg will have to pick up his all around game. He has to change his focus from hit everything that moves to actually making a play and contributing a little bit offensively.
      I’m hoping Jessiman, who’s been training with a boxing coach this summer, will have a great camp and warrant some consideration for the 4th line.

    7. Elk Attack Survivor on

      I would trade Hollweg if there is somebody else who plays very physical and brings more to the table.

    8. I thought Hollweg signed for 2 yrs in the offseason which could make him hard to move. I’m also not a card carrying member of the Hollweg fan club. His runs put him and his teammates at a big disadvantage on the defensive end. I’m more against him for what he does to our defensive effort than the fact he contributes so little to our offense.

    9. Elk Attack Survivor on

      I think mayble all three of Betts, Orr and Hollweg need to be replaced with Jessiman, Moore and Dubinsky.

    10. i agree with everyone… hollweg just takes up space at points… it would have been much better to try to trade him or at least waive him and sign ortmeyer for another year, someone who was responsible in his own zone and added alot more positive energy

    11. Rob L – I agree..and from his days in the WHL and a little in Hartford, I think Hollweg has those skills to be an effective 4th liner that hits people (unlike Orr, who is too slow to hit anybody) and pops in some offense..But, it’s up to himto bring that out…

    12. Elk Attack Survivor on

      “I think mayble all three of Betts, Orr and Hollweg need to be replaced with Jessiman, Moore and Dubinsky”

      with that we not only get bigger and younger and more talented, but we also get all 4 lines that are dangerous and can score.

    13. Look, I have a soft spot for Jason Strudwick because he stands up for his teammates more than most, if not all, others. But he is a step slow and a lummox with the puck. Enough of the “he’s a good guy” comments. Being a good guy doesn’t get you Lord Stanley. Staal has it in his genes to be a professional hockey player with big impact potential. I would be absolutely disappointed if Strudwick got the nod over Staal. But this management has loved Malik for the longest time with little rationale, so who knows.

      Defense will make or break our Cup run this year. Period.

    14. ANd before annointing guys like Moore and Jessiman as Ranger 4th liners, maybe let them become half decent AHLers first? As for Dubinksy, he’s another stroy because he’s goingto be a 2nd line C when all is said and done…Getting major ice time in all situations at Hartford is best for him…

    15. Elk Attack Survivor on

      “ANd before annointing guys like Moore and Jessiman as Ranger 4th liners, maybe let them become half decent AHLers first? As for Dubinksy, he’s another stroy because he’s goingto be a 2nd line C when all is said and done…Getting major ice time in all situations at Hartford is best for him…”

      Hyena, is that you?

      Jessiman is proving himself in the camp. Moore prooved himself last camp. Dubinsky will be fine with 12 minutes of icetime in NHL, and it will increase with experience and injuries.

    16. Marc Staal may not be the offensive juggernaut some wished for, but if he’s a solid defensive defenseman who doesn’t make a lot of mistakes and doesn’t cough up the puck than he will stand out in a big way compared to last year’s defensive corps.

      If he simply doesn’t score on his own goal than he would be an improvement over most.

    17. Elk Attack Survivor on

      Montoya rated 9th best prospect by Hockey’s Future, yet Valiquette will get the spot

      “It is no secret that Jessiman has not developed as quickly as the Rangers had hoped. After signing a professional contract during the summer of 2005, Jessiman had two difficult seasons bouncing back and forth between the Hartford Wolf Pack and the Rangers’ ECHL affiliate, the Charlotte Checkers.

      He began to change his play last season to become a more north-south physical player. Often involved in protecting teammates, Jessiman was instructed to use his size to his best advantage. When he did so, he was very effective, but there were also times when Jessiman’s play was lackluster and he seemed focused elsewhere.

      This season is his last under contract with the Rangers, and coming into training camp there appears to be a difference in his play. The intensity that the Rangers saw when Jessiman was a collegian has returned and he seems fully focused on his play. The results are obvious on the ice, but questions remain as to whether he can sustain this energy level over an entire season. If he can, he has the potential to be a first- or second-line power forward.”

      “Moore began his 2006-07 rookie professional season very well. However, he was unable to sustain offensive production throughout the entire AHL season, and was relegated to the Hartford third-line for most of last season. The former Hobey Baker finalist played quite a bit when the team was shorthanded and may become strictly a defensive forward should he not improve his offensive game over the next year. Moore does have third-line NHL potential, but in the new NHL, players on that line need to be able to record points to be effective. This will be a critical year for Moore’s career in the Rangers organization”

    18. What type of a defensive defenseman is Staal? Does he play a physical game, and hit like Kasper, Pronger etc.?

    19. I’m getting a little concerned with the Rangers desire to have “nice guys” around the lockerroom as opposed to people who can actually play on the ice. First Valiquette gets penciled in because as backup just because he has the right attitude, now Strudwick is the 7th or 8th dman because he’s popular off the ice…. I hope these two guys at least justify their million 1.1million cap space that they’re taking up.

    20. Ibister Shot Survivor on

      montoya does a lot more for the rangers organization as a whole if he spends this next season in hartford with a very good club, and helps lead them to victory. It’ll raise his trade value tremendously. Showcasing his ability in 8-10 games against the bottom feeders of the league isnt going to do that at all. Vally isnt the ideal backup, personally I’d rather they make a conscious effort to sign a guy like Esche (provided he knows he will not be the #1 goalie) but…uh…yeah…

    21. “Hyena, is that you?

      Jessiman is proving himself in the camp. Moore prooved himself last camp. Dubinsky will be fine with 12 minutes of icetime in NHL, and it will increase with experience and injuries.”

      Have no idea what the infantile “Hyenna” remark is about but, whatever…

      So let me get this straight..Moore prooved himslef in last years camp so he should be a 4th liner for the Ranger this year? Even though he sucked in Hartford and sucked in this year’s camp?

      And Dubi would be fine with 12 minutes of NHL ice time, I agree…But he ain’t gonna get that in NY this season..So. would you have him get 5-7 minute of 4th line or 20 minute of first line in the AHL…Easy decision to me..

      As for Jessiman, I love that he is fianlly showing something but he hasn’t proven anything yet..A full pre-season would only be a start…He will get there, just don’t know when…But lord knows I would take him over that tripod named Colton Orr..

    22. Elk Attack Survivor on

      “So let me get this straight..Moore prooved himslef in last years camp so he should be a 4th liner for the Ranger this year?”

      he at least should be given a look there

      “Even though he sucked in Hartford and sucked in this year’s camp?”

      based on what did he suck?

      “And Dubi would be fine with 12 minutes of NHL ice time, I agree…But he ain’t gonna get that in NY this season..So. would you have him get 5-7 minute of 4th line or 20 minute of first line in the AHL…Easy decision to me..”

      he would get that much look at Betts’ icetime last season he averaged 14 minutes.

      “As for Jessiman, I love that he is fianlly showing something but he hasn’t proven anything yet..”

      Billions of people worship gods whose existense was never and never will be proven. Yet having faith in a prospect play on the 4th line is too much.

    23. now kids learn from Dubi @ BB…”Baron wrote: “We had better players waiting in the wings in Hartford. Renney & Sather will always favor someone who stinks but has a bit of experience over a kid who has talent but no experience. If the retread doesn’t work out, they simply bring in another retread. That is my point.”

      That is absolutely, positively not true, as I have demonstrated to you several times. Kaspar was sent down to make room for Girardi, Weekes was stripped of his #1 job as Lundqvist emerged, Dupuis was traded after nine games for Bourret on the same day Krog was waived after five games while Dubinsky was brought up, Callahan played ahead of Isbister once he established his presence, etc. etc. Hall and Dupuis landed us Bourret. Jason Ward was part of what got us Avery. Weekes, Isbister, and Rachunek were cut loose as free agents.

      It’s frustrating when they give an Isbister or Krog that shot that you want a young guy to have, but the young guy gets that shot eventually when they deem he’s ready, and in the end, the retread is gone. Your nine retreads, half of which were actually young guys getting a chance rather than over the hill vets, got only 188 games between them, compared to over a thousand for nearly two dozen young guys. There is a minor annoyance of a problem here, but the overall trend is in fact exactly what you want it to be!

    24. Elk Attack Survivor on

      “That is absolutely, positively not true”

      he is absolutely right. As soon as they got rid of Poti and Rucchin, they bring back Ward and Shanahan. As soon as they get rid of Cullen they bring back Hutchinson. As soon as they get rid of Dupuis they bring back Strudwick. As soon as they get rid of Isbister they bring back Smith.

      “Kaspar was sent down to make room for Girardi”

      you are seriously retarded if you believe this crap.

    25. Elk Attack Survivor on

      As soon as they get rid of Nieminen they get back Ozolinsh, as soon as they get rid of Rucinsky they bring back Cullen. As soon as they get rid of Weekes they get back Valiquette, as soon as they get rid of Lundmark they get Taffe/Fedorov. As soon as they get rid of Moore they get Hall/Dupuis. As soon as they get rid of Ward they get Mara. As soon as they get rid of Sykora they get back Rachunek. This is absolutely disgusting and ridiculous.

    26. Elk Attack Survivor on

      look at the Sabres in the 2 year period: lost Dumont, Grier, Pyatt, Fitzpatrick, McKee, Drury, Biron, Noronen, Novotny, Briere, Zubrus.

      And the only signings they made in the last 2 offseasons were Spacek and Thibault. The rest they give their young players a chance.

    27. I have a suggestion, if you don’t like it, lump it. Or buy your own team. In the meantime keep crying & whinning.

    28. Long time reader – First time poster.
      I have a lot to say, but all in due time. I HAVE to comment on the “nice guy” stuff. And the “on ice” stuff. Take a look @ ’94. Noonan? Gilbert? Kypreos? Lidster? MacTavish? Olczyk? If these guys weren’t primarily “locker room” guys, then there never were any. They play as big a part throughout the grinding days of the 82-game schedule as an unproven, 20-something rookie means, if not more. Especially come April. Yes, this means I’m pro-Strudwick, and pro-Orr too. (I don’t really care for Hollywood though, but he brings the same thing…I refer you to the St. Patty’s day pre-game video.) If it makes the point-getters more comfortable, and allows them to play knowing they’re protected…we’re better off. And don’t forget … this is a CUP-RUN year. The rebuild is on the back-burner for the next 82.

    29. “he at least should be given a look there”

      Why? he has to earn that look NOW not given it just because he’s a kid

      “based on what did he suck?”

      Suck may be an exaggeration, but he got cut already, didn’t he….?

      “he would get that much look at Betts’ icetime last season he averaged 14 minutes.”

      Not even close….Betts only got that ice time because he was a prime penalty killer, Dubi will not be..Otherwise he might just get 5-8 mins even strenght..AIn’t worth it…Let him develop even more a half season in Hartford..best for him and the team..

      “As for Jessiman, I love that he is fianlly showing something but he hasn’t proven anything yet..�

      Billions of people worship gods whose existense was never and never will be proven. Yet having faith in a prospect play on the 4th line is too much.

      Again, let him earn it with consistent play and I have no problem seeing him WIN a job over other candidates..

    30. Oh man do some of these comments make me sick.

      Sam,

      I think you are right on with your Strudwick comment. We had Pock up ALL last season and he barely got any icetime. The 7th spot should be filled with the kind of guy who can walk into a game and play solid. Yeah, he might not have the potential Staal, Sauer and Pock have but they need more time to develop and prove themselves.

      And everyone is acting like these kids can’t be called up mid-season! Someone will get injured, if you all pray enough, [insert hated player of the day] will get hurt and somebody will need to be called up. Have patience, the season has started yet and you want to turn 20 yr olds into the next coming of Bobby Orr.

    31. that was suppose to read….

      the season hasn’t started yet and you want to turn 20 yr olds into the next coming of Bobby Orr.

    32. there is no way you can say our team is better 2 years ago then it is now. both we and the sabres have come the furthest from the prelockout season. we are giving our young guys a chance but not rushing them which is important. montoya will start in hartford because him playing every night there is a lot better for his development than for him to ride the bench with the rangers. and the same goes for many players, having them play alot of minutes in hartford is alot better than them getting 6 mins as a 4th liner with the rangers. they have to stay sharp and until they dominate in hartford and show they can eat 15-20 mins on the 2nd line or whatever with the rangers, its best for them to play as much as do in hartford.

    33. Elk Attack Survivor on

      “I think you are right on with your Strudwick comment. We had Pock up ALL last season and he barely got any icetime. The 7th spot should be filled with the kind of guy who can walk into a game and play solid.”

      I bet Liffiton would kill to be able to play 40+ games a season in NHL. But all Strudwick has to do is write a blog and laugh at Renney’s lame jokes.

      “Not even close….Betts only got that ice time because he was a prime penalty killer, Dubi will not be..Otherwise he might just get 5-8 mins even strenght..AIn’t worth it…Let him develop even more a half season in Hartford..best for him and the team”

      you must be dumb, because if Dubinsky gets 5-8 minutes you should complain about the coaching. And who says Dubinsky can’t kill penalties?

      “Suck may be an exaggeration, but he got cut already, didn’t he….?”

      And Prucha was sent to Hartford for playing great, wasn’t he?

      “Take a look @ ‘94. Noonan? Gilbert? Kypreos? Lidster? MacTavish? Olczyk?”

      but those guys also contributed on the ice, Strudwick does not.

    34. How can any of you say trade this guy,that guy ,send him down, keep him here, or anything else after only a week of camp? Let’s get some games in and give some guys a look. after all what are we talking about here 2,3 spots that are open.

    35. Don’t look as Strudwick beating out Staal for a spot. That would be any of the other six defensemen. Staal and Strudwick clearly won’t play a similar role if either is on the team.

    36. “you must be dumb, because if Dubinsky gets 5-8 minutes you should complain about the coaching. And who says Dubinsky can’t kill penalties?”

      Wow, what an intelligent response..You are the bozo talking about putting Dubinsky on the 4th line (with Moore and Jessiman) now..And that’s what most 4th line C’s get.(Not to mention we might have an even younger kid playing C on the 3rd line in Callahan).And Dubi is not fast enough or experienced enough to kill penalties in the NHL right now..But, I forgot, he’s a kid, let him do it…Play Betts at 4th C and PK and Let Dubi get even better in Hartford so when he comes up again, he stays up…

      “And Prucha was sent to Hartford for playing great, wasn’t he?”

      OMG, how dare they send a 22 year old kid to the minors! What nerve! And after prucha got some needed ice time and experience in Hartford, he came back and played extremley well for NY….Great move…

    37. As for Strudwick, if its between him and a young D for the 7th/8th spot, than its easy, you keep the vet in the stands for when you need him and let the kid play in Hartford. I dont want Staal makeing the team as a 7th D, and even Pock, if he cant crack the top 6 than trade him, it wont do any good haveing him sit around ANOTHER year. JESSIMAN: I am all for that guy makeing it to the NHL…but I would think the best thing would be to send him to the AHL and make him one of the first callups if he continues to play well. Now if he really shines in the pre-season, sure let him play, but I dont see him being so much better than others that they decide more time developing wouldnt be needed…and I can see him pressing Hollweg, and perhaps that will get Hollwegs motors running better..who knows…the Rangers could have a good problem there…

    38. also Montoya should not be the Backup…how will he develope playing a handful of games??? I mean I think some callups to have him play a game or two, especially if the Rangers clinch a playoff spot “early”. I just think he is better served getting a majority of the starts in Hartford, as others have pointed out, a few years in the minors did nothing but good for Miller…and I dont see any BUF fans saying he should have been up earlier.

    39. ORR Punch Survivor....Barely!!! on

      The thing with Montoya is, everyone is complaining that he wont get enough games, and he needs to stay in Hartford so he can play non stop instead of riding the friggin bench.

      Montoya is not our backup, if he is, then the rest of his NYR career will be that way, because Hank is our Starter, and he will always get 60 – 70 games, unless he gets injured. I think we need to sign a vet backup, like Cujo.

      Look at the Sens, they have Emery, and then on backup, the guy who pretty much brought the Canes to the playoffd before Ward stole his job. Point being, if Emery sucks, or gets injured, then Gerber can take over and do well. Montoya, i dont know.

    40. ORR Punch Survivor….Barely!!! : exactly…I think the Rangers should look for a cheaper vet, I just dont know if any are out there who would be willing to sit for 70 games a season…but Im sure there is at least 1

    41. hoof and mouth disease on

      for the kid-kryers…from BB…”ten players, nine of whom played a total of 188 games. I refuse to include Jason Ward in that list, as he was an effective third liner and he was young. Two others — Taffe and Fedorov — were also young (under 25). Those two, plus Krog and Dupuis (who by the way remains an established NHL player), played a grand total of 25 games. Not one of the players you list lasted as many 50 games before they were jettisoned.

      In the meantime, 22 different players under the age of 25 were given a chance to play, and played a total of 1,060 games over the past two season. Nine became mainstays in the line-up — eight of them still are. Those nine players appeared in 979 games over the past two seasons. Two others will be NHL regulars soon.”

      read zipay…http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/blog/

      the guys sent down will be 21 or younger. The Wolfpack had one of the youngest rosters last season & probably will again.

      the drink is kool-aid, not kid-aid….

    42. czechthemout!!!!! on

      to hoof,wildcard,and all the other kool-aid drinkers-

      All i am arguing is for the team to have a lineup on the ice that gives us the best chance to win!that’s it.I said before and i’ll say it again,i could not care less if it is a 20yearold or a thirty yearold.I just want to win the cup.
      playing plyaers out of position like callahan so early in his career is dumb,his DEVELOPMENT will be stunted.having Valliquette as the backup is DUMB!he sucks!They should either play montoya for 20-25 games and not wear out the king(my choice)or cut vally loose and sign someone like esche,at least he can hold down the fort if there are injuries to the king.It is my opinion that dubinsky on the 3rd line between callahan and prucha gives us the best chance as the team is currently constituted to win.As for the other kids or even mark smith,i will wait till i see them play over the weekend before i comment.

      also someone wrote earlier that dubinsky is too slow to kill penalties.Obviously that guy has never seen dubinsky play or has no clue.dubi killed penalties for the pack last year.HE may turn out to be an average penalty killer,but to say he is slow is absurd.furthermore the rangers have enough penalty killers.

    43. Prucha, Cally, Henrik, Tyutin, Hossa, Staal, Avery, Sauer, Sanguetti, Hollywood, Orr, Dawes, Dubinsky, Anisemov, Drury, Gomez, Jagr, Rozival, Liffiton, Montoya, Betts and a couple UFA’s signed next summer.

      That is what your roster will look like next season. Doesn’t look too old and tired to me.

      And nobody hits like Hollwegg, the guy is nuts and every guy on the other team has his head up when he’s around.

    44. “Dupuis remains an established NHL player.” Right – a one-dimensional PK who falls on his ass taking a regular shift. You also saw him take two asinine penalties vs. the Rangers in the playoffs. He was his team’s biggest liability in getting swept. Christ, there must be something better you can do with you time than tout this wash-out who is no better than 50-50 to even make an NHL roster, this season. He was a HORRIBLE acquisition by Sather and got dumped within a month of coming here. The fact that Atlanta is equally dumb is not a case for Dupuis having a range of skills, which he doesn’t. He is strictly an OVER-EXPANSION era imposter. Wake up!

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