Comments on: Optimism abounds! http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/ News and insight about the New York Rangers by Rick Carpiniello Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:27:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: LI Joe http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50537 LI Joe Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:02:05 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50537 Bonfire - I would agree that some of the kids might be better right away or even in the 1 -2 yr time frame than Tyutin. My guess is only 2 of them though Staal and Sauer. I personally think Sanguinetti will always be too weak on the defensive end to be a strong part of our future (think Poti type). I'd be shocked to see more than 3 of the 5 you listed really make it and that's pushing it. Bonfire – I would agree that some of the kids might be better right away or even in the 1 -2 yr time frame than Tyutin. My guess is only 2 of them though Staal and Sauer. I personally think Sanguinetti will always be too weak on the defensive end to be a strong part of our future (think Poti type). I’d be shocked to see more than 3 of the 5 you listed really make it and that’s pushing it.

]]> By: Robby Bonfire http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50534 Robby Bonfire Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:36:46 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50534 Bonfire's "under the bus" roster: Kasparaitis, Strudwick, Mara, and Hutchinson, with Malik expendable for more value in return, and Pock on the bubble. Tyutin is safe here, just far down on the organizational depth chart when you rank all the talented kids who will not be here, this year, including Busto, Baranka, Liffiton, Sanguinetti, and Sauer, with the big question revolving around Staal's address, come October. Bonfire’s “under the bus” roster: Kasparaitis, Strudwick, Mara, and Hutchinson, with Malik expendable for more value in return, and Pock on the bubble. Tyutin is safe here, just far down on the organizational depth chart when you rank all the talented kids who will not be here, this year, including Busto, Baranka, Liffiton, Sanguinetti, and Sauer, with the big question revolving around Staal’s address, come October.

]]> By: LI Joe http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50518 LI Joe Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:28:34 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50518 Bonfire - so you're ready to throw Tyutin under the bus, that's just beautiful. I know he's 24 and not 16 but he's a solid player. He was also injured at end of season which explains some of his "mistakes". Enough with the 16 year olds. Bonfire – so you’re ready to throw Tyutin under the bus, that’s just beautiful. I know he’s 24 and not 16 but he’s a solid player. He was also injured at end of season which explains some of his “mistakes”. Enough with the 16 year olds.

]]> By: Seamus O Riley http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50517 Seamus O Riley Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:20:47 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50517 any bitterness discernible from Avery?? any bitterness discernible from Avery??

]]> By: Robby Bonfire http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50516 Robby Bonfire Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:18:29 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50516 The washout D's you mention were gone when Strudwick was acquired. That is why Strudwick was brought in here for the stretch, as a last resort. That is why I compared Tyutin with Rachunek, with Strudwick's arrival as the qualifier - the other imposters were out of the mix, by springtime. Again, you contort my words out of context like a backwoods county court house lawyer more focused on lunch and his golf game. The washout D’s you mention were gone when Strudwick was acquired. That is why Strudwick was brought in here for the stretch, as a last resort.

That is why I compared Tyutin with Rachunek, with Strudwick’s arrival as the qualifier – the other imposters were out of the mix, by springtime. Again, you contort my words out of context like a backwoods county court house lawyer more focused on lunch and his golf game.

]]> By: Chris F. http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50515 Chris F. Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:08:59 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50515 No way was Toots the weak link. And Dawes still hasn't been very impressive in his, albeit limited, time in the NHL. I like the thought of him being shipped for picks. No way was Toots the weak link. And Dawes still hasn’t been very impressive in his, albeit limited, time in the NHL. I like the thought of him being shipped for picks.

]]> By: Right Wing Fascist http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50514 Right Wing Fascist Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:11:31 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50514 "It comes down to the age-old argument we seem to have: do you think guys are over-the-hill at 25 years old? As I always do, I’ll say F-No. In fact, there’s a maturity at that age in body and mind that really gives players a chance to blossom. Will Pock ever be Bobby Orr? No. Will Tyutin ever be Brian Leetch? No. But could both see fruitful careers in the NHL? Yes." it is not his age, he just sucks--slow, not physycal, not great defensively or offensively and there are better players being blocked by him--Baranka, Liffiton and Potter. “It comes down to the age-old argument we seem to have: do you think guys are over-the-hill at 25 years old? As I always do, I’ll say F-No. In fact, there’s a maturity at that age in body and mind that really gives players a chance to blossom. Will Pock ever be Bobby Orr? No. Will Tyutin ever be Brian Leetch? No. But could both see fruitful careers in the NHL? Yes.”

it is not his age, he just sucks-slow, not physycal, not great defensively or offensively and there are better players being blocked by him-Baranka, Liffiton and Potter.

]]> By: Right Wing Fascist http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50513 Right Wing Fascist Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:46:35 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50513 Montoya will not get the bonuses as a backup so his cap hit likely is under a million "Please, no more “brain storms� about having youngsters “stashed on the fourth line.� Five, 6, 7 minutes a game on the fourth line is a waste of time. If they can’t play on the second or third line, have them play 20-25 minutes a game in Hartford." I disagree, first of all 4th line should be playing around 10 minutes and second those young players will be given more and more icetime if they show they deserve i and will move up the lineup with injuries or penalties and could force Sather to trade someone above if they show they are much better. Montoya will not get the bonuses as a backup so his cap hit likely is under a million

“Please, no more “brain stormsâ€? about having youngsters “stashed on the fourth line.â€? Five, 6, 7 minutes a game on the fourth line is a waste of time. If they can’t play on the second or third line, have them play 20-25 minutes a game in Hartford.”

I disagree, first of all 4th line should be playing around 10 minutes and second those young players will be given more and more icetime if they show they deserve i and will move up the lineup with injuries or penalties and could force Sather to trade someone above if they show they are much better.

]]> By: tdchi http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50512 tdchi Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:44:23 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50512 "Tyutin needs to improve his all-around game, which was mediocre last season as he and Rachunek vied back and forth for the dubious distinction of being the Rangers weak defensive link" Disagree...Weekest link was Ozo, Kaspar, A.Ward and then Rachunek in that order. Tyutin played an all-around solid game until going down with injury. He was one of the teams only physical defensmen. Girardi plays a different, less physical game than Toots. There's no comparisson there. Sauer has at least one year in Hartford and Sanguinetti(who is also a differnt brand of blueliner has at least two). Staal may, as you say, 'leapfrog' Tyutin, but that's just because he's an all-around more talented player. For more than four years, this team has seemed to have an incredibly high opinion of Tyutin. Teams were trying to pluck him away for the better half of two seasons before he broke in. Now, you have a physical blueliner, who at 6'3, should start damaging people with his hits. And he can score. As for Pock, there's a reason he's still with the team and has been since the lock-out for the most part. They must see something in him and seem to have him in future plans, otherwise I doubt they would have kept him with the team last season. It comes down to the age-old argument we seem to have: do you think guys are over-the-hill at 25 years old? As I always do, I'll say F-No. In fact, there's a maturity at that age in body and mind that really gives players a chance to blossom. Will Pock ever be Bobby Orr? No. Will Tyutin ever be Brian Leetch? No. But could both see fruitful careers in the NHL? Yes. “Tyutin needs to improve his all-around game, which was mediocre last season as he and Rachunek vied back and forth for the dubious distinction of being the Rangers weak defensive link”

Disagree…Weekest link was Ozo, Kaspar, A.Ward and then Rachunek in that order. Tyutin played an all-around solid game until going down with injury. He was one of the teams only physical defensmen.

Girardi plays a different, less physical game than Toots. There’s no comparisson there. Sauer has at least one year in Hartford and Sanguinetti(who is also a differnt brand of blueliner has at least two). Staal may, as you say, ‘leapfrog’ Tyutin, but that’s just because he’s an all-around more talented player.

For more than four years, this team has seemed to have an incredibly high opinion of Tyutin. Teams were trying to pluck him away for the better half of two seasons before he broke in. Now, you have a physical blueliner, who at 6’3, should start damaging people with his hits. And he can score.

As for Pock, there’s a reason he’s still with the team and has been since the lock-out for the most part. They must see something in him and seem to have him in future plans, otherwise I doubt they would have kept him with the team last season.

It comes down to the age-old argument we seem to have: do you think guys are over-the-hill at 25 years old? As I always do, I’ll say F-No. In fact, there’s a maturity at that age in body and mind that really gives players a chance to blossom. Will Pock ever be Bobby Orr? No. Will Tyutin ever be Brian Leetch? No. But could both see fruitful careers in the NHL? Yes.

]]> By: Cuch http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50511 Cuch Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:37:39 +0000 http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2007/09/12/optimism-abounds/#comment-50511 Not sure if this earlier question was answered by some one but according to Blueshirt Bulletin Taylor is signed to an AHL contract. Not sure if this earlier question was answered by some one but according to Blueshirt Bulletin Taylor is signed to an AHL contract.

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