Getting a headstart

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That my head isn’t completely on hockey yet should be of little consequence to any of you. Of greater importance is that the people who count — i.e. the players — are already gearing up for the season ahead.

Although I haven’t been over to the Training Center myself yet, the players skating there include Chris Drury, Scott Gomez, Sean Avery, Brendan Shanahan, Henrik Lundqvist, Petr Prucha, Dan Girardi, Ryan Callahan, and Paul Mara.

Presumably a number of prospects are working out as well since the Rangers will again be fielding a team in the Traverse City Prospects Tournament next week.

More later…

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  1. ORR Knocks Em Out, Jagr Starts to Pout & Prucha Gets the Chances but Hollweg Does the Dances on

    Cant wait till camp.

    I thought i saw Chris Drury at a target, but it was some other guy with a big nose. Good thing i didnt go up to him, it would be highly awkward.

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    Jeez….Watching NYR fan Faves, when Cullen scores that goal. Makes me miss the hell out of him, i hoped he wouldnt get traded…I just hope that, this Cullen trade doesnt come back to bite us in the ass.

  3. Welcome back, Sam!

    I don’t know if others feel this way, but to me, the additions made on 1 July made this the longest and most excruciating off-season ever to have to wait through. Just a few more weeks and we’ll be back in the swing.

    Anyone around here ever been in the Rangers Legends Section at MSG…? I’m gonna be there on opening night and I’m wondering what to expect..

  4. hockeymanrangers on

    OK here is a question for any one that can give me a good answer. Does the Rangers organization allow fans to visit them at training camp??? Or do they have like a visit day from fans??? Just curious it would be along drive for me but I might be able to make a Saturday trip or something, if they allow fans to do so????

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    JEFF L.

    Hell yeah, this is by far one of the worst. But the wait isnt as long anymore….thank god.

    HockmanRan

    From what i hear you are allowed to go in i think…..But im not to sure about that…Maybe on Newyorkrangers.com you can find out.

  6. your boy Malik on

    Jeff,
    I’ve never been in the legends section, but we have “club” seats (lucky enough to sit right next to Sam too!) which gets us into the Club Bar and Grill – and some legends packages include dinner there with a Ranger legend – we’ve seen Duguay, Matteau, Andersen, Stemkowski, Gilbert, etc. – and they give gift bags then sit in the legends section with their “legend” – lucky you!

  7. Cant wait till camp.

    I thought I saw ORR Knocks Em Out, Jagr Starts to Pout & Prucha Gets the Chances but Hollweg Does the Dances at a Taco Bell, but it was some other hydrocephalus case in a wheelchair. Good thing I didn’t push him off the stairs, it would be highly awkward

  8. ORR Knocks Em Out, Jagr Starts to Pout & Prucha Gets the Chances but Hollweg Does the Dances on

    San Jose Sharks signed Jeremy Roenick…Wow

    The guy missed 4 games with hemroids, and missed a game for a spot on “The Ghost Whisperer”, and missed a few games due to injury.

    Can you say….Horrible move.

    JR is pathetic, he’s only playing to get 5 goals, so he can get his 400th. I hope he pulls his groin during camp.

  9. ORR Knocks Em Out, Jagr Starts to Pout & Prucha Gets the Chances but Hollweg Does the Dances on

    Grim

    Go wack off to “We are all Islanders” commercials.

    And cant you come up with something a bit more realistic, you dont even know how i look. I expected a little better then that.

  10. Orr – that would be 500 goals. He’ll probably retire a la Brett Hull when he figures out he can’t play anymore, which he should have figured out last year when he was a healthy scratch. Unfortunately, it will probably take a few months for him to get five goals.

  11. Hey Sam, is there any news on who’s getting the “A” this year. Would Drury be getting one or are they going to stick with Shanny and Straka having it?

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    400 or 500….He doesnt diserve to be in the HOF…He thinks getting 500 will probably get him there…Pff..get outta town. If he makes it to the HOF then Domi should as well.

    GRIM GOMER

    Do the world a favor and take a leap off your house head first….pleeeeeease. If your living in a cardboard box…then just stick your head under a parked car and wait till someone back over it.

  13. Nick, I think we should stick with Shanny & Straka as the alternates. Drury needs to earn that role, not be handed it as he walks in the door.

    your boy Malik, thanks much for the info! The package does indeed include dinner, etc. in the Club Bar, is it nice in that place? I’m very excited for opening night, because of the legends tickets I bought, my name goes up onto GardenVision. :)

    Orr, I agree, what a piss-poor move by SJS.

  14. your boy Malik on

    Jeff L,
    It is very nice in the Club Bar – they have a great buffet and good wine, etc. What a great way to start the season! Enjoy.

  15. While past his prime now, Roenick was one of the great Americans to play the game. He did a lot for USA Hockey and probably will go into the NHL HoF, if not the USA Hockey HoF. To say that if he goes in, Domi should go in is a joke. This guy was the complete package for a while…Goals, assists, hits, speed. He was a god player most of his career, a great player for a few seasons. You don’t get to 500 goals with luck.

  16. Glenn Anderson scored 498 career goals, won six Cups, and is not in the HOF. If he hasn’t made it, Roenick most certainly doesn’t deserve it.

  17. Roenick had 4 outstanding seasons, from ’90-91 through 93-94. During those 4 seasons, he racked up 35% of his career point total. He then amassed up several good/decent seasons before tailing off at the end. I don’t think that’s enough to get in.

  18. I’m not a big Roenick fan but I dont think its fair to compare him w/ Anderson. Roenick was arguably one of the best players (top 10) in the game for a five year period. BTW – I have to say that was pretty funny one from Grim.

  19. Anderson played on a stacked Oilers team. He was never the best player on his team, and never had to go up against other team’s top defenses. They all focused on Getzky and Messier.

    Roenick was the #1 center on his team and also the team’s best player.

    Now I’m not saying that Roenick is the greatest player ever, or a lock to get in, yada yada yada…Just saying that I really think a lot of Oiler’s stats are slightly skewed.

  20. Peter

    1) Anderson was Messier’s linemate for several years in Edmonton.

    2) The best player on the early-to-mid ’90s Blackhawks teams was not Jeremy Roenick- it was Eddie Belfour. You could even make the argument that he wasn’t even the best position player once they got Chelios.

    3) Like I said, Roenick had 4 great seasons, and a bunch of pretty good seasons. I give him credit for the longevity, but the Hall shouldn’t reward consistent good play- it should reward consistent great play. There’s a major difference between the two, and I think Roenick falls on the wrong side of that line.

  21. All right, I’m just throwing this out there. How would you guys feel having Cujo as the back-up for this season if we can get him at the same price as Valiquette. Joseph said in an ESPN interview that he doesn’t care about the money.

  22. ORR Knocks Grim Gomez Out, Then Yenner Starts to Pout & Jagr Gets More Chances, While Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow on

    PIERRE

    I wouldnt mind that. But then again, Vally and Hank supposedly have grown pretty friendly. I hear there always hanging out. But then again i dont know, what ever is a good move for the team. Lol anything at this point is better then signing JR.

    GRIM GOMER MORON

    Did i strike a nerve?? Dont worry you can be fake Sam again, i promise not to tell like i usually do. Lol ya loser. Go make out with your customized Reinprecht pics in a ranger jersey…

  23. Roenick – When I think about Jeremy, my mind constantly wanders back to the Nagano Olympics, where the U.S. laced perhaps the most dominant team its ever put into an international competition. The result? Zilcho. They (or at least Brett Hull) were spotted getting hammered out at the bars at one point, which could explain the joke of a series they had.

    And then they were ran out of Japan for destroying their living quarters after beinbg eliminated from medal contention. Granted, he was never ID’d as one of the players implicated in that mess, but I think the whole incident cast a dim shadow on USA Hockey. I personally always suspected him and Tkachuk as being the culprets. Regardless, anyone on that team was culpable for the pathetic display they showed, even Leetch and Richter, although they don’t seem reactionary, as Roenick has in his career.

    On a side note: does anyone actually know who the players were involved in that mess?

    The other thing I must point to is the utter lack of cup rings for Roenick. He was on a damn good Phoenix team with Tckachuk, which should have made a splash out there in the desert. But lo and behold, they sucked. And Roenick was on some powerful Philly teams too, only ones that never seemed to go far. I frankly think there’s a pattern here, which suggest Roenick ain’t much of a team player. Yes, this is largely subjective, but I’ve never really liked the mouth on this punk. Hopefully they keep his dead-beat ass out of the 500 club and definitly out of the HOF.

  24. ORR Knocks Grim Gomez Out, Then Yenner Starts to Pout & Jagr Gets More Chances, While Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow on

    Lets not forget the pathetic Grim Gomez / Robby Bonfire style whining he did, when he found out that he wasnt gonna be on Team USA in the 2006 Olympics in Torrino..

    Gee JR…I woder why, you douche.

    I always hated JR, he’s nothing more then a whiner. And thats that.

  25. Speaking of Mr. Reinprecht, I knew him as a Badger a long time ago. When he was a colleg Freshman at UW, he volunteered his time and came by to speak to my 6th graders for “Canada Day”. He was never expected to be an NHL player (While Brad Englehart, a kid I knew very well had all the press clippings back then). A nice guy. Still not convinced he’s anything more than a 3rd liner, but definitely a guy who made his own good fortune due to his work ethic.

  26. And my first imprssions of Jeremy Roenick were at Hockey Night in Boston in the Summer of 87. He was projected to be a NHL 1st round pick and I saw him take a (CHEAPSHOT) run at a player and almost put him in the hospital. People had problems with him way back then. A tiger can’t change his stripes!

  27. If I remember the Nagano Olympic incident correctly, someone burst into Richter’s room while he was sleeping and sprayed him with a fire extinguisher, so I don’t think we can say that he was as guilty as the rest of the team.

  28. Previously, I thought the Sharks would be a force, but now I see them going rotten, at least at the beginning of the season. I think if Roenick retired after the lockout, in hindsight, he probably would have had a better chance at the HOF. At that point, he had 1,120 points in 1,124 games. A point per game is very good, especially before the lockout. Obivously, at that point he would have been too young, at least in his eyes. But still, he is 45th in points all time, so I still think he will get in. All the eligible players around him on the 1,000-point list are in except Bernie Nicholls.

  29. Yeah, Pierre…I do recall hearing something about that…Frankly, both Ranger reps on that squad strike me as class-act players(even putting aside my obvious bias) and don’t strike me as the hooligan type prone ot drunken mayhem…but I say this with a minor grain of salt.

    I think good teams have good leaders. Someone should have stood up on that team told the others to buck up and fly right, long before the bad press caught up with them. I mean, I can’t think of who would be on the team today, but it definitly would look nowhere near as good as the 1998 squad, a team that had Patty LaFontaine, Roenick, Tkachuck, Guerin, Weight, Chelios, Suter and Leetch, all basically in their prime. They squandered what might have been USA Hockey’s best chance for the gold since 1980.

    Orr: That’s right…I remember that too, JR getting all pissy because his deadbeat ass wasn’t invited to the team. I’ll say there was a good reason for this too, which extended beyond his waining play…

  30. This might be old news – but after hearing 20 different stories…

    Is Immonen coming to camp this year…? because i remember Larry Brooks writing that he was going to Europe back in like June with Bryce Lampman.

  31. Derf: Immonen just recently signed in Finland. Outside of a miricale, I think he’s done with the Rangers.

  32. From tdchi re: Roenick:

    He was on a damn good Phoenix team with Tckachuk, which should have made a splash out there in the desert. But lo and behold, they sucked…. I frankly think there’s a pattern here… Yes, this is largely subjective, but I’ve never really liked the mouth on this punk. Hopefully they keep his dead-beat ass out of the 500 club and definitly out of the HOF.

    Amen.. tough customer, but no HOF for Roenick

  33. “Speaking of Mr. Reinprecht, I knew him as a Badger a long time ago. When he was a colleg Freshman at UW, he volunteered his time and came by to speak to my 6th graders for “Canada Dayâ€?. He was never expected to be an NHL player (While Brad Englehart, a kid I knew very well had all the press clippings back then). A nice guy. Still not convinced he’s anything more than a 3rd liner, but definitely a guy who made his own good fortune due to his work ethic.”

    so are you saying you want him or don’t want him?

  34. NHLLINE.CA reports that CUJO is close to signing with San Jose

    http://nhlline.ca/blog/?p=301

    Joseph, Sharks in talks
    Goaltender Curtis Joseph could be the next player swimming with the Sharks. Former teammate, Jeremy Roenick signed on with the San Jose Sharks earlier today and sources tell TNL Joseph is close to signing a one-year contract with the club. The two had played with each other last season in Phoenix.

    Nothing is done yet, but the two sides have heated up negotiations as of late. The Sharks have also inquired about former Flyers netminder Robert Esche but they would like to have a veteran netminder, like Joseph, backing up starter Evgeni Nabokov.

    Cujo can still put up decent numbers and with the way Esche performed last season, the more “reliable� goaltender in this case could be Curtis, but that’s all opinionated.

  35. I think CuJo would make a good back-up to Henrik, and would be a good mentor to him too. I get the impression they are going to see what happens with Vally in camp. There are still options like Caron or Burke or Noronen available – its a shame Montoya would be such a big cap hit if he made the team, otherwise i think this would be settled by now.

    As for Reinprecht, forget it Grim you’re still in EA Sports mode – never gonna happen..!! Gomez is going nowhere for the next few years at least and i’m betting on Ansimov to make the 3rd line center position his.

    I’m looking forward to seeing how we fare in Traverse City and who plays themselves into contention for a spot with the big boys.

  36. Anthony (Abev) on

    I know it’s hockey season when I can’t wear white shirts anymore (check!) and Sam starts updating his blog on a *regular* basis (check!).

  37. I’m not saying either. I don’t agree with the Gomez/Reninprecht trade and I don’t think he would be a good 2nd line center. I do think he’s a good player and would make a decent 3rd line center BUT I’d rather see Dubinski or AA in that spot.

  38. “1) Anderson was Messier’s linemate for several years in Edmonton.

    2) The best player on the early-to-mid ‘90s Blackhawks teams was not Jeremy Roenick- it was Eddie Belfour. You could even make the argument that he wasn’t even the best position player once they got Chelios.

    3) Like I said, Roenick had 4 great seasons, and a bunch of pretty good seasons. I give him credit for the longevity, but the Hall shouldn’t reward consistent good play- it should reward consistent great play. There’s a major difference between the two, and I think Roenick falls on the wrong side of that line.”

    Adam –
    1) Exactly. Anderson played on Messier’s line. So defenses focus on Messier, giving Anderson more time and space, less attention focused on him.

    2) You’re arguing semantics now. Roenick was the most dangerous scorer on his team. Better?

    3) I don’t have an answer for this one, I don’t care if he gets in or not, just saying it’s ridiculous to compare him to Domi.

  39. UKRanger, I agree, my vote goes to Artie for that 3rd line center spot. I’d much rather see him there than Dubi, as much as I like Dubi.

  40. Anyone who thinks we’re trading a guy we just signed for an older, past his prime player is a fucktard.

  41. Peter

    1) You argue that Anderson got less attention than Messier because they played on the same line. That’s like saying Scott Gomez will have a ton of open ice this year because Jagr will be on his flank. I don’t think that’s gonna be happening. Anderson topped 40 goals in 4 seasons, including 2 with over 50, and cracked 100 points three times. I imagine opposing lines took notice of him when he hit the ice.

    2) No, not better- also inaccurate. During the five seasons he overlapped with Steve Larmer in Chicago, from 89-93, Roenick scored 179 goals, and Larmer scored 182.

  42. Anybody know when the rangers regular season tickets go on sale?
    ——–
    Individual games or miniplans?

    Also, anyone else REALLY excited about Callahan? Watching him play in game 1 vs ATL again the other night was amazing. The kid looked SO COMFORTABLE making intricate playes/moves with the puck around the boards. Totally impressive. I hope he gets a lot of face time with Shanahan this year, that would be the perfect man for Ryan to craft his game after.

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    PETER

    I dont know about a f*cktard…but maybe he should just dig up his granny’s vintage shotgun and smoke the pipe…and booom…

    Then he’ll be in a world were Jagr and Shanny never existed, and Reinprecht and Jovo ruled NYR, and Gomez sufffered from concussion problems, and oh yeah…Grim Gomez gets laid…

    In this world that will never happen. To bad for you Grimy

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    SALTY

    I hope Cally’s dad and friends go to his games next year…Cause he played amaazing when his dad and his former coaches went to game 3 vs ATL were he scored 2 goals…Actually in Mr Callahans words…he played…Phenaaaaaminal…Phenaaaaaminal just Phenaaminal

  45. As to when ticket plans go an sale….
    I went down to the Garden last week and met with a
    Season Tickets Rep Upstairs.

    I first inquired about mini-plans and he said there are none available at all and there won’t be any more for this season. He took my name and email just in case something opens up.
    I then asked about when regular season tixx go on sale to which he replied,” they aren’t really going on sale this year.”
    Basically, from what I understood, the ticket situation for the whole season (barring the Rangers sucking) will be like a late playoff race-first round atmosphere. If tickets are available, they will be gobbled up instantly and in very limited quantites.

    What really bites me is that only in a city like New York do you get so many bandwagon fans and corporations who pay through the nose and gobble up all the seats. The team makes the playoffs 2 years in a row, we sign Gomez and Drury and suddenly, the Rangers are the hottest ticket in town.

    My advice>>>>

    Go on EBAY and get 300’s blue line seats for about 55 bucks a pop. That’s basically face value, if you consider ticketmaster fees.
    I already got Devils 10/25 and ATL 1/22 which I hear may be the REAL Leetch Night-

  46. BlueClue,
    Thank You for the info. It does suck but that is the way it is in new york specially ranger tickets. I usually just go to the garden the day of the game and usually I can get in by buying one ticket or scalping. I will check e-bay.

  47. Agreed Blue…..total bullshit…. but in the same hand its that same new york atmosphere that allows us to snatch players like jagr/shanny/drury/gomez

    It especially sucks that the further down in the garden you go, and the closer to the ice you get, the less people seem to pay attention to the game and are more concerned about their cell phone, food order, smoking chick, etc.

    I seriously just want to hit about one game per month in the 300-400’s….. I did this last year, (about 6-7 games?) and it felt like I was down there plenty…. even that is kinda in jeopardy right now though…

  48. Doodie Machetto on

    “1) You argue that Anderson got less attention than Messier because they played on the same line. That’s like saying Scott Gomez will have a ton of open ice this year because Jagr will be on his flank. I don’t think that’s gonna be happening. Anderson topped 40 goals in 4 seasons, including 2 with over 50, and cracked 100 points three times. I imagine opposing lines took notice of him when he hit the ice.”

    Two responses to this:

    First, I actually think the Gomez thing will be the case, but not for Gomez, but rather for Straka. I think defenses will be so concerned with shutting down Gomez and Jagr that Straka (or Hossa as the case may be) will be WIDE open, a lot.

    Second, those totals are apples and oranges. Fact is, the 80’s were a pretty high scoring decade. The early 90’s, while still high compared to the late 90’s, were still lower than the 80’s, ESPECIALLY compared to that Edmonton team.

    And third, in reponse to this:

    “No, not better- also inaccurate. During the five seasons he overlapped with Steve Larmer in Chicago, from 89-93, Roenick scored 179 goals, and Larmer scored 182″

    Dude, those numbers are bogus for a few reasons:

    1) The first year that you use, Roenick was a rookie called up halfway and played only 20 games, scoring 9 goals, while Larmer played the entire season. If you subtract that year, the totals become Roenick 170, Larmer 139.

    2) Those totals are just for goals, and do not include assists. If you add up the point totals (not inlcuding his shortened season), Roenick has 370 ; Larmer 335.

    In no way was Larmer the more lethal scorer than Roenick during Roenick’s time in Chicago.

    I like JR, and he is a sure fire candidate for the AMERICAN hall of fame, but as for the HOCKEY hall of fame, he should fall short: not because of his point totals compared to someone like Anderson, but because of the big goose egg under the “Stanley Cups Won” column. If he won a cup, I would give him the nod above Anderson, simply because Anderson was never the top guy, or even the 2nd, or even 3rd best player on his team, and for most seasons wasn’t even 4th.

    My vote is no on both, but if Roenick had one cup to his credit and got the 5 extra goals, then I would give him a yes.

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    Anderson’s the man….Hopefully he’s back on Pre Games on Thursdays like always…

  50. Doodie

    No on Glenn Anderson for the Hall of Fame? Really? Putting aside the regular season stats- 214 points in 225 playoff games. 17 playoff GWGs, 5 of which came in OT- you’ll recall that two of those game winners came in Games 2 and 3 against Vancouver in ’94. That’s not enough for the Hall? What else do you need?

  51. Hey Bare,

    I have pics of all the new reebok edge jerseys that have been released check em out here: http://getitnext.typepad.com/hockey/

    check out the isles, not as bad as the fisherman logo but ugly nonetheless. flames did a good job, all the original 6 kept their theme which is good.

    can’t wait for camp to break. must be quite a change sam, going from golf to hockey.

  52. Doodie – Thanks for the FACT BASED analysis. I notice that Adam really had no reply for you on those points.

    Adam – Game 3 was a 5-1 blowout, so Anderson’s GWG was the 2nd Ranger goal of the game. I wonder how many other of those GWG came in Oiler blowouts. Yet another one of those NHL stats that is often misleading.

    Not saying Anderson shouldn’t get in, but obviously this guy benefitted from the better players around him. When you think of those Oilers you think of Gretzky, Kurri, Messier and Fuhr. There are a lot of peple who wouldn’t even mention Anderson when asked about the most prolific scorers of that generation.

    However, JR was always a complete player…Speed, scoring, hitting. Guy did it all.

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    I heard Russia lost again, does anyone know the score and how Artie played??

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    Nevermind…I got the score….8 – 1….Ouch

  55. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    SPIDERPIG

    Alright i just got back in the league…

    I am the mighty Indianapolis ColtOrr’s.

    No one shall stand in my way…Just ask Fedoruk

  56. Peter

    Doodie’s analysis was fine, if not earth-shattering. I’ll concede Roenick being called up halfway through ’89, and we should throw out the numbers from that year. I should have done better on that one. Even still- 370 points to 335 points isn’t exactly a blowout. And Roenick only had 5 more playoff points than Larmer- 51 to 46- during those years. Seems fairly even to me

    How about this point- during the last 14 seasons of JR’s career, his teams made no Finals, and exactly one appearance in Round 3.

    To top it off, your “analysis” of Game 3 of ’94 is atrocious. You’ll recall Bure was completely on fire in that first period, scoring on the breakaway and drawing two penalties- we got the gift goal by Leetch to tie the game, but the Canucks were dominating that period in front of a frenzied crowd- that was our only shot on goal in the first 15 minutes of that game. The sudden momentum shift before the first intermission- Bure’s ejection and Anderson’s ensuing PP goal less than a minute after that penalty- changed the entire complexion of the game. You want to try to argue that that wasn’t a huge goal? Good luck with that.

  57. YOu should just stop posting. Bure getting himself kicked out of the game was the difference. Not a goal by Anderson, especially when 3 more goals came after it and Vancouver didn’t have a hint of an attack without Bure.

  58. This question is completely off every single topic, but it’s been bugging me since I watched Rangers Fan Faves and saw Dominic Moore playing for Pittsburgh…

    Remember two years ago when the Rangers surprised everyone after being tabbed to be the worst team in the league? That year they had arguably the BEST 4th line in the league when it came to shutting down opponents’ top lines. I remember that it consisted of Ortmeyer and Moore but I can’t for the life of me remember who was the third. Was it Jason Ward or Ryan Hollweg and WHY didn’t we make efforts to keep Moore and keep that line together?

  59. That’s a great point Peter. The Bure ejection was the difference, but the goal we scored on that PP was actually insignificant. That has to be true, because we knew the other three goals were on their way.

    Same thing in Game 4. Richter shouldn’t have tried so hard on the Bure penalty shot, because we were going to get four that game anyway, and Vancouver was only going to get two.

    Don’t forget Game 5 either. We needn’t have scored those threethird period goals, because we knew Vancouver was just going to score three more to make it 6-3.

    And of course, this means Anderson’s GWG in Game 2 was meaningless, because it was only the second goal and we scored three that game.

    Thanks for clearing all that up.

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    WHERE’S BURE

    Yeah that was a great 4th line of Ortmeyer Moore – Hollweg….Hollweg actually played physical hockey unlike last season.

    I liked the line of Orr – Moore – Ortmeyer better…Just cause it sounded funny…Or or ortmeyer…they all has 3 o’s and 2 r’s in ther last name.

    I dont know if there is a difference between Moore and Betts but eh.

    Moore is a free agent if im not mistaken. Im surprised PIT got rid of him, but of MIN was smart they’d re sign him, and Hall for that matter. I think they were both a nice pickup for them, didnt matter much in the playoffs but who cares.

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    Leetch night

    Jan 24th vs ATL

  62. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    Got that from Blushirtbulletin.com

  63. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee – ssss

    Bill Clement isnt coming back to Verses or NBC

    Woooo Hooooooo

    Im happy

    First Leetch night, now this…This is turning out to be a damn good day.

  64. Also If people had the blue half season plan for this year you should of gotten a call from your rep today asking if you want to add the game to your plan. I just did that around 10 minutes ago. They charge you the same amount as any other regular season game, but this will now get rid of most of the tickets for individual sales unless people with the blue plan say they don’t want the game which I am sure many people won’t be doing.

  65. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    Im going to that game, for sure.

    This will blow Mess night out of the arena….Ive always liked Leetch more. I was able to go to Mess, and Richter night, so i have no choice but to go to Leetch night.

    Hopefully we destroy ATL worse then we did back in game 3.

  66. Adam – Your logic is flawed, and your rants aren’t even making sense. You’re throwing in random games and random “what if”s. Bottom line, the defining point in the game is Bure’s ejection. He doesn’t stick Wells in the face, Anderson doesn’t score a PP goal. Arguing anything after that is moot.

  67. Again, Peter, that’s really a terrific point. Let’s expand on that further. Anderson can’t deflect the shot from the point if Zubov doesn’t shoot it. Zubov can’t shoot it if Keenan doesn’t put him out on the PP. Keenan can’t put him out on the PP if Roger Neilson isn’t fired and we have a head coaching vacancy.

    This is all very entertaining, but I fear we’re getting away from the main question of: does Glenn Anderson belong in the HOF? I say anyone who scored 498 regular season goals, amassed 214 playoff points, tallied 17 playoff GWGs, and won six Stanley Cups deserves to be in. Peter says none of this would have even been possible if the NHL hadn’t been founded in 1917 to begin with, so it’s all ‘moot’. Good times.

  68. Dude, you’re the clown that keeps going back to the “What ifs”. You went back and said Anderson’s goal changed the series, because “what if” we didn’t score 3 more later.

    Pawning your idiocy off on others doesn’t give you a point.

  69. I did not say that Anderson’s goal changed the series, Peter (dude). I merely pointed to it as one of his 17 GWGs in his playoff career. I further said it was a huge goal that changed the entire complexion of the game- which I believe it did for reasons already mentioned. You argued that it did not, essentially saying it was merely one goal in a game in which we scored four others. You then let your emotions get the better of you, launching ad hominem attacks and making grammatical errors, while I attacked your points easily and with thinly-disguised sarcasm. Which brings us to now and your next reply.

  70. I just hope when a puck “leaves the playing surface”, as the Public Address announcer says every game, it somehow finds that idiot Tim Robbins and gives him a black eye… what a complete tool.

  71. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    VOGS

    LOOL

    What’s your beef with Timmy

  72. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    Here’s a recent interview between Henrik lundqvist and NYR.com

    NYR.com Tell us about your summer. Did you spend a lot of time at home in Sweden?

    Lundqvist: I stayed in New York until mid-June. Then I went back to Sweden for a few months and spent time with friends and family. I got back here a week ago, and now I’m getting ready.

    NYR.com Are there are a lot of NHL and Rangers fans in Sweden these days? Do people come up to you and talk about the Rangers?

    Lundqvist: Yes, they do. They think it’s fun, and they’re happy that it’s been going well for me. Obviously there are lots of Swedes in the NHL, but a lot of people are now following the Rangers, for sure. That’s happened.

    NYR.com: Anders Hedberg recently rejoined the Rangers organization as a European scout based in Sweden. You and he are two of the best Swedish players in the team’s history. How familiar are you with him?

    Lundqvist: I met him through the national team when he was working for the national team a few years back. It’s great to have him here again. He’s obviously done a lot of great things for this organization in the past, so I think it’s good to have him as a scout.

    NYR.com: You resumed working out at the MSG Training Center well before the official start of training camp. What are your goals between now and the opening of camp on Sept. 13?

    Lundqvist: First you just want to get back here and get your technique back. You’re a little rusty the first couple of weeks. You need to skate a lot. It’s also fun to see a lot of the guys starting to come back. We just try to work really hard before camp, because we don’t have that many weeks to get going before the season starts.

    NYR.com: Do you feel you’re even more focused going into this season as a result of the strong playoff performance last spring?

    Lundqvist: I think a lot of guys are just really excited to be back. The team looks really interesting right now. We’ve signed up some really good players for this season and I think a lot of guys are excited to get things going here.

    NYR.com: Where were you on July 1 when the Rangers signed Chris Drury and Scott Gomez, and what went through your mind when you heard the news?

    Lundqvist: I was back in Sweden, and it was great to hear. I was really happy, because this is good for the team, good for the organization and good for the fans who get to see these two really good players here. It’s definitely going to help us improve our team this year and be an even better team.

    NYR.com: Drury scored a very memorable goal against you in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference semifinals last May. Have you talked to him about that now that you’re teammates?

    Lundqvist: I have talked to him, but we have not talked about that. It will probably come up during the year, at least one or two times. He seems like a great guy, and I know he’s a really good player.

    NYR.com: With the new faces and returning veterans, do you feel the team is stronger right now than it was going into the season a year ago?

    Lundqvist: I think we’re stronger than last year. The team looks very similar to last year, but we just added a couple of really good players. Also, there are some younger guys coming up who look really good. We had expectations last year, too, and we know we just have to do well. It’s a lot of hard work. Even though we’ve got so many good players coming into this season, it’s going to be a really tough season because a lot of teams are looking really good out there.

    NYR.com: Last year, the team didn’t really take off until the second half of the season. Will there be more pressure to get off to a fast start this time?

    Lundqvist: That was last year, and it’s hard to predict how the season will be. Our goal right now is just to get ready for the season and Game 1. You don’t try to look too far ahead. Obviously, you want to have a good year and prepare for a good playoffs, but that’s so far away that right now our focus is just on getting ready for the season.

    NYR.com: This will be your third season with the Rangers. Do you now feel as comfortable in the NHL as you ever did playing in Sweden?

    Lundqvist: I guess, if it’s really possible to ever feel comfortable. It’s a tough game out there for a goalie. You need to perform and win games. You need to help the team all the time, and it takes a lot out of you to stay at the top. It’s exciting, though, and I know it’s a lot of hard work in front of me to try to be even better this year. It feels good, though. I feel more confident this year and I know what to expect. The first year I was here, I didn’t know at all what I was going to get into. Last year, I had a better feeling about it, but this year I really know what’s going on around the league and what it means to play in this league. But at the same time, things can change so fast, that you always have to be aware of how hard you have to work just to get ready for a new season.

  73. ORR Knocks Reinprecht Out, Grim Gomez Starts to Pout & Malik Prances But Hollweg Does the Dances!!! Bow Chicka Wow Wow!!! on

    What are you two whining about….Its been going on all day…

  74. ORR try just giving a link instead of copying the whole thing ala groupie fan stuff. Take a chill pill……. I’ll reserve my comments on timmy robbins & his political nonsense.

  75. Orr – Your namesake wasn’t on the team in 2005-06, unless you were just making up that fourth line hypothetically.

    I guess the Rangers really wanna slap Atlanta in the face; also a game that’s more of a lock to win than any other because some players (in many sports) have trouble being in the NYC for a long period of time, and Atlanta will be there for at least three days. I figured it would be in January, but was hoping it would be on my birthday against Boston four days earlier. In any case, I definitely won’t be able to go, since I will be away at college. :( Hopefully I’ll at least get to see a replay of the ceremony at some point.

    I’m trying to think of some sort of current-related topic to discuss, but everything’s been exhausted already during the summer; just gotta wait until the players take the ice together. How about projections on how Immonen will do in Finland? (j/k)

  76. Anisimov just scored on a nice tip while parked in front of the goalie on the PP.

    In an odd twist, Anisimov just delivered a knee on knee on a canadian player, it was clearly intentional. Dang…

  77. You you could change the webpage subject title Getting a headstart | Rangers Report to more generic for your content you make. I loved the the writing still.

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