Shanny close?

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Sure, Larry Brooks “confirms that Brendan Shanahan is on the verge of re-signing with the Rangers”:http://www.nypost.com/seven/07102007/sports/islanders/isles_c_guerin_as_new_leader_islanders_larry_brooks.htm, but he had nothing on the Westchester Open in today’s paper.

And we all know which is the bigger story, don’t we?

OK, don’t answer that…

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  1. Sam, Sam , Sam. If it was Larry Brooks we wanted, you wouldn’t want any of us around anyway.

  2. Not to change the subject, but Pittsburgh signed Crosby to a 5 year, $45 million extension. That contract should ultimately set the market. If Crosby is worth $9 million a year (on average), then I assume Lundqvist is worth somewhere around $7 million a year?

  3. If he’s worth $7 million per then he’ll probably be waiting a few years before digning anything long term because the Rangers sure don’t have that kind of cash…

  4. Guys, I sure do get the feeling that Souray is going to be a Ranger. I don’t know how I feel about it. If it is for 2 years and we are trading Malik I think it is ok. But if it is for longer, I say forget it. Any thoughts?

  5. Sam,

    any truth to Zipay’s blog about a player asking to be traded?!?!

    MALIK?!?!?!?!? PLEEEASE

    AZ

  6. If I had to guess, I would say Malik probably wouldn’t mind being traded – he gets booed mercilessly.

  7. Nasty:

    My gut feeling says that Souray will sign elsewhere. Even if he wants to be a Ranger, which might be true, too many things need to happen to accommodate his contract demands. I don’t see why he would sign for only 2 years, at this point in his career he probably wants a big payday for as many years as he can lock in.

    I have mixed feelings about adding him. Of course he’d be an upgrade to a Malik, but I’m not sold on him in his own zone. Overall, I think adding 3 UFA’s to a team is a big chemistry adjustment and I’d rather see them find out if some of their kids (namely one or more of Pock, Staal, Baranka) are up to the task rather than bring in another mercenary.

  8. I agree, I like the idea of bringing up the kids. Too many new faces screws things up. The damn Devils did it for years and were a real force. We definitely took a page out of their book the last two years and now we need not go back to our old ways.

  9. Dr. Ogrodnick on

    Funny, the Rangers are ruining the cap and hockey, yet Pitt signs a kid that has only been in the league 2 years at 9 million per. hmmm….

  10. RangerFan V.1 on

    Crosby is worth every penny he gets. As long as he doesn’t get injured he will be in the HOF and will be talked about with Gretzky, Lemieux and Howe as being some of the greatest hockey players ever. I don’t see how Crosby’s singing sets a precedent for Henrik and it does not make him worth $7 mill

  11. Robby Bonfire July 10th, 2007 at 11:21 am
    Pock at 26 is no kid, anymore, just a p.t. journeyman, now.>>

    exactly. he is not a solid defenseman, but is significantly better than Malik, which is not saying much.

    With 9 mill per year eventually going to Crosby, the time will come when they are going to have to give up Staal, Malkin, etc. His 9 million does not raise the bar on Lundqvst, a 2 year player.

  12. I don’t think Lundqvist is worth $7 million a year, YET. This is a guy who had a very pedestrian 1st half of the season. He still needs to show more consistency. If he really wants to be a Ranger, he’ll take a 2-year deal at $3 million, prove himself for two more years, and then he can have his big payday when Jagr’s and Straka’s salaries come off the books.

  13. Why can’t the obvious happen with Lundqvist? He arbitrates for a one year deal, at 3 or so, and then come January 1, Slats locks him up long term for more?

    Hey Dr. O, has there ever been anyone more in need of a heart punch than Sidney Crosby?

  14. This cannot be true. The Kid Kaptain said that he would not sign for big money so that he can play on a team that can afford other top players to run for the Cup. He makes a TON of $ from endorsements and would not do this.

    you guys don’t know him. he is a team player. those reports during his rookie year about him needing protection from his own teammates were just jealous ranger fans causing trouble.

    those times when you saw a teenager allegedly yelling at refs, or even at Lundqvst are also misinterpretations. Any good lip reader can CLEARLY see that, due to all the noise, he had to yell to the refs…asking them if they needed water—or to Lundqvst: he was inviting him out to lunch.

    this is a supremely talented and humble kid. He is the new Gretzsky, with all the dignity and class that the Great One had.

    You’ve got it all wrong. He signed for much less to make sure that Malkin, Staal, and Fleury are with him long term. Friendship comes first. The Cup comes 2nd. Money? to him, it is way down the list of priorities. Nike takes good care of him.

  15. Dr. Ogrodnick on

    Heart punch indeed. Haven’t thought about that in a while.

    I’m not saying Crosby isn’t worth the money, especially when you factor in that the Vanek situation probably scared the crap out of Pitt. But the whole point is that players aren’t supposed to earn that kind of money until UFA status. What does Crosby get for his next contract? Plus, Malkin is now pretty justified in holding out for 8 million per when he goes RFA.

  16. Crosby is a cry baby and a prima donna. Crosby couldn’t carry Gretzsky’s jock strap.

  17. Doodie Machetto on

    Personally, I wouldn’t want Fleury long term. I hink he’s the most overrated goalie in the NHL. He’s also one of the worst. I’d take the backups from a lot of teams over him.

  18. Robby Bonfire on

    At this point I would rather see Sanguinetti, as well as our Staal in there, rather than Malik, or Pock, or Tyutin, or Mara, or Strudwick, or Souray, the human rumour. How would Sanguinetti be worse, than any of the above, this coming season, excluding Souray?

  19. Robby Bonfire on

    “Friendship” before the Cup? That is insane and exactly what any respectable professional sports organization or athlete is NOT about.

    Christ, here we go again with the P.C. “Barbara Boxer Time” crap. “Friendship before the Cup” ranks right up there with the bogus story I saw at Yahoo yesterday, about how “The Alps are growing taller because of Global Warming.” Any more hockey-related “Chicken Little” fables we need to get out of our system before moving back into a genuine H-O-C-K-E-Y focus? We certainly live in the age of media disinformation.

  20. I have no problem with Tyutin at all or Strudwick. But if having Strudwick in the lineup meant Staal not being in the lineup I would have a problem with that. Studs is not going to score any goals for you or really being a defensive stud, but he makes the right and safe play and you can’t really argue with that. He is also a tough enough guy to have around.

  21. UKRanger – that’s another possible question I was thinking about, but it doesn’t really have as much bearing on reality. I was saying the poll should be about who we _think_ is most likely not to be on the team in October rather than who would not _want_ to be on the team. Probably should start the poll after Souray and our own FAs are signed to make the picture clearer. The prospect poll brought up in the last blog entry is a good idea, too; we could probably fit both over the summer, Sam?

  22. ‘Tis a shame; another broken sarcasm meter. Bonfire, I think it’s pretty clear Seamus was joking. I wasn’t sure at first, but the third paragraph gave it away. Looks like he doesn’t like Kid Krybaby either.

  23. ORR Kicks Yin Yang on

    ADAM Z

    Lol…Good one….That was classic

    Hopefully Malik is asking to be traded…that would make my week….

    Imagine its Jagr…Cause Nylander is gone…i’d cry

  24. Toots is by far our best defenseman right NOW. Staal/Sanguinetti could be better, but I’d say Staal is the most NHL-ready player out of our top D prospects. Give him a shot.

  25. ORR Kicks Yin Yang on

    Since NJD signed Vishnevski….Does that mean there out of the Souray hunt….

    TFP is saying the Simon will re sign with NYI….Eh just as good…If hollywood doesnt have the balls to fight Simon then Orrzie will gladly do it for him…

    We need a tough D man…Someone who is gonna stick up for his teamates…I just realized we dont have one of those…..

  26. C’mon Slats get er done. We want Shanny, Avery, and Lundy happy and under contract. And just say no to Souray.

  27. Apparently the Fan 590 claims that the deal is done and is a 1 year deal. Now I guess we have to await TSN confirmation.

  28. Stop with the references to Barbara Boxer. Next thing you know we’re going to get postings from “Hillary Bleeds Blue” and “Ellen Wants the Cup.”

  29. “Glen [Sather] has been really good in communicating with me while he was dealing with the [Henrik Lundqvist and Sean Avery] arbitration issues,” Shanahan told The Post on Saturday. “I said all along I had no desire to test the market or accept other offers.”

    I find that quote so ironic. Didn’t someone report the other day that Sather wasn’t returning Shanny’s agents calls or anything? It just goes to show you that outside of Sam and a few other sites, you can’t trust anything you read since it’s mostly journalists trying to spice things up.

  30. From the NY Post..

    The Rangers and Brendan Shanahan are on the verge of completing a one-year deal, with the club seeking league approval on the structure of the bonuses that will be included in the 38-year-old winger’s contract, The Post has learned.

    It is believed that Shanahan, who told The Post on June 20 he would work with the Blueshirts in order to grant the team as much cap maneuverability as possible, will sign for a base of approximately $2.5M with an additional $1.5-2.5M in readily attainable bonuses.

  31. Jon RX –

    Are you referring to a one year deal for Shanny or Souray? And did you hear that over the air or is it on their website?

  32. Or more likely the FAN 590 is reporting what Brooks did. Still, usually by the time rumors spread this far they’re pretty credible. Im sure it will be announced soon…

  33. Adam

    “Didn’t someone report the other day that Sather wasn’t returning Shanny’s agents calls or anything?”

    Yes

    Someone, actually some people kept bringing it up and I kept saying that it sounded like total BS.
    Agents (my bro-in-law is one) usually have a direct line of communication with management; especially with a player like Shanahan-

  34. Sam I think today’s a perfect day for a mid-day/early afternoon stop by the training center. Just to stand near a rink or a cold building.

  35. This today from blueshirtbulletin.com concerning Alexei Cherepanov and his plans to PLAY IN RUSSIA FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS, Yes that’s right-

    “Alexei Cherepanov told everyone after he was drafted in the first round by the Rangers that he will come over to North America after next season. But in an interview at Russian Hockey Prospects, Cherepanov said he plans to honor his two-year deal with Avangard Omsk. “Rumors have circulated that Cherepanov will definitely plan to leave for the NHL after this season,” the interviewer said. “Your American agent said the same thing. What is your comment?” Cherepanov answered, “I don’t even know why these rumors started to circulate — that I plan to anul my contract with my Omsk club. I have an active two year deal with Avangard, and don’t plan to get out of it and go anywhere.”

    http://ordinaryleastsquare.typepad.com/blueshirtbulletin/

  36. blueclue,
    evgeni malkin said the same thing, he’ll be in the rangers system if not a ranger by this time next year

  37. Hope so

    Is there a chance that there’s a misunderstanding with Cherapanov and this year is the second year of a 2 year contract with Omsk, and therefore he would come over to NA next year, but not this year as maybe he believes others are suggesting?

  38. Today’s NHL-

    It’s all about youth it seems. Serving the youth, those young, hardworking kids who deserve a shot.

    Unless of course your team is in New York or another major market like Dallas or LA.

    All these buzz words like “rebuilding” or “youth movement” to me is just rhetoric. But it’s not the case for a major market like New York that has plenty of income to pay for proven top talent. Fans in larger markets understand their teams have the highest revenues in the league, whereas the smaller the market, the lower the revenue.

    fans in larger markets expect to see proven NHLer’s out on the ice when they pay $60 a seat to go to a game. When you pay $25 a seat to go to a game in Washington or Carolina, you’re expectations of the product you see on the ice is lower.

    Once again all I hear from my friends is how the Rangers bought their team, the Rangers don’t develop their own talent, the Rangers are all superstars, they shouldn’t lose a game next year. I think this is all a bunch of nonsense.

    The Rangers have not “bought” their team. The Rangers have used trades and drafting as well as UFA signings to put together the current roster.

    Goal: Lundqvist, Montoya – draft picks

    defense: Tyutin, Staal, Pock, Liffiton, Sanguietti – draft picks
    Rozival, Mara, Malik, Strudick – UFA’s or acquired by trading UFA’s signed earlier (Mara)

    Offense: Hollwegg, Orr(waiver pickup), Dawes, Dubinsky, Anisemov, Callahan, Prucha – draft picks

    Straka, Drury, Gomez, Shanahan, Cullen -UFA’s
    Jagr, Hossa, Avery – Trades

    The youth on this list represents half the Rangers roster and future roster. Add a Sauer or Pyatt or Byers or Jessiman to the roster and the list grows. It just so happens that this organizations weakness in the past came from drafting centers. They have been strong in goaltending and defense and wingers.

    I want to see kids like Staal, Callahan, Gomez, Tyutin and Dubinsky take leadership roles in the future, and their time will come when players like Jagr and Shanny retire. But right now they can learn from these veterans and make themselves better as they get older.

    The Rangers should be proud of what they have accomplished. They have added excellent young players to bring energy to the ice and the room in a city where nevers can get tight and locker rooms can get tense, yet they have balenced it out with veterans who have been there and won cups (Drury, Jagr, Shanny, Cullen).

    The whole “youth movement” rhetoric is all wet. And s Straka, Drury, Gomez, Shanahan, Cullen -UFA’s
    Jagr, Hossa, Avery – Trades

    The youth of list represents half the Rangers roster and future roster. Add a Sauer or Pyatt or Byers or Jessiman to the roster and the list grows. It just so happens that this organizations weakness in the past came from drafting centers. They have been strong in goaltending and defense and wingers.

    I want to see kids like Staal, Callahan, Gomez, Tyutin and Dubinsky take leadership roles in the future, and their time will come when players like Jagr and Shanny retire. But right now they can learn from these veterans and make themselves better as they get older.

    The Rangers should be proud of what they have accomplished. They have added excellent young players to bring energy to the ice and the room in a city where nevers can get tight and locker rooms can get tense, yet they have balenced it out with veterans who have been there and won cups (Drury, Jagr, Shanny, Cullen).

    The whole “youth movement” rhetoric is all wet. And Straka, Drury, Gomez, Shanahan, Cullen -UFA’s
    Jagr, Hossa, Avery – Trades

    The youth of list represents half the Rangers roster and future roster. Add a Sauer or Pyatt or Byers or Jessiman to the roster and the list grows. It just so happens that this organizations weakness in the past came from drafting centers. They have been strong in goaltending and defense and wingers.

    I want to see kids like Staal, Callahan, Gomez, Tyutin and Dubinsky take leadership roles in the future, and their time will come when players like Jagr and Shanny retire. But right now they can learn from these veterans and make themselves better as they get older.

    The Rangers should be proud of what they have accomplished. They have added excellent young players to bring energy to the ice and the room in a city where nerves can get tight and locker rooms can get tense, yet they have balanced it out with veterans who have been there and won cups (Drury, Jagr, Gomez, Shanny, Cullen).

    The whole “youth movement” rhetoric is all wet. And singling out the Rangers as not having one makes no sense any way you look at it.

  39. a casual observer on

    Joe said it right.
    David Liffiton is the tough defenseman that would stand up for our team. I wish he would make the team but it’s a tough numbers game.

  40. once upon a Time, America was educated and sarcasm was a sharp tool in the hand of the skilled communicator.

    Where hae ye gone, my blued eyed son?

  41. Brendan Shanahan is back on board.

    The heart-and-soul winger has agreed to a one-year contract to return to the Rangers. The deal will pay him a base salary of $2.5 million with myriad bonuses that could get him back to the $4 million mark he hit last season.

  42. BlueClue

    The quotes are correct. I have read the original interview in russian paper and this is exactly what he had sad. But you may be right and it’s possible that he meant the second year of his contract, at least I hope so.

  43. your boy Malik on

    Whew…..finally something other than rumors….glad to have Shanny back…thanks Josh!

  44. Robby – so you want Tyurin (all of 24) gone because he’s too old now? I suggest you move to Canada and follow the junior teams (but then you’ll be peeved at the 2nd or 3rd yr junior players). Or you can switch NHL teams to root for (just look at which team has most 16 to 19 year olds and you’d be all set. But when they get to be 21 they would be too old and you’d have to find another team).

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