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Turns out Glen Sather had more than “no comment” about the Mark Messier story that surfaced today. No, the Rangers GM and President wasn’t about to anoint Messier as his successor. But he didn’t quite dismiss the idea, either.

“Mark can make a comment about basically anything he wants to do in the future,� Sather said a day after Messier told the Edmonton Sun that he’s going to proactively pursue the position. “But anything we’re going to talk about with each other is going to stay with us. At least it’s going to stay on my side.�

Asked if he had any plans to step down as GM, Sather was vague.

“Who knows in the sports business?” he said. “But I have no immediate plans to do anything.”

Sather was even more vague when asked if Messier would be qualified to just step in and run an NHL team, especially when he already has an assistant, Don Maloney, who’s basically been the team’s acting GM, anyway.

“I think in today’s and age, it’s difficult enough to do this job unless you spend some time training,� Sather said. “But Mark’s capable, as we all know, to do a lot of things with his life. He wouldn’t be the first athlete to come into a position of responsibility and do well. It depends on a where a guy’s ambition is.�

Well, we already know where Messier’s ambition lies. Whether he gets his wish is another story.

More later…

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  1. crappy first shift is right. they would Euro-circle right back into their own net if they could.

  2. Doodie Machetto on

    I like how Avery has done so far. I really liked just now how he drew the penalty and then gave a little “how do ya do” to Oduya.

    I don’t think Hollweg should be scratched in favor of Orr, however.

  3. Renney should make Nylander skate up and down the ice all practice long without spinning once. It’s like a bad tic now.

  4. Sather: �| have no immediate plans to do anything.�

    That was his attitude when he was hired. He does show up at payday though, I’ll bet…

  5. anybody notice that that as soon as Straka enters the offensive zone with the puck he skates instead of to the net, he skates to the boards truly pathetic to watch

  6. “Does he wipe his ass with sand paper when he is in NJ?”

    He wipes his ass with sandpaper everyday. 80 grit.

  7. just switched channels to catch the TSN hosts, one of which was Nick Kypreos, both calling Sather the WORST GM in the east. glad to see the media catching up with the fans.

  8. oh sure, a cross ice pass thru the crease is no soft goal.

    maybe your hero Weekes can lead them to the CUP after you get Henrik traded.

  9. onecupin67years on

    Like most people I don’t like change ,I thought maybe the rangers would win tonite after that great trade.February in ranger history is known for great trades.Feb.64 bathgate for seiling ,brown and nevin.Anyway,Lunqvist never played little league baseball thats for sure.2-1 after 2.

  10. Parise scores his 21st goal of the season. Sather passed him up to draft Hugh Jessiman.

    Jessiman can’t even find his way out of Charlotte for cripes sake.

  11. czechthemout!!!!! on

    the rangers are losing this game becuase they still don’t have enough scoring and callahan is still in the minors.RENNEY,FOR 53 GAMES NOW YOU HAVE TRIED THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER ON THE POWER PLAY.ARE YOU JUST STUPID OR BLIND.CANYOU NOT SEE THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING DOES NOT WORK.CHAGE UP YOUR POWER PLAY LINES,PUT CULLEN ON THE POINT WITH ROZY,GET AVERY IN FRONT OF THE NET AND JUST BLAST AWAY.KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID AND I DO MEAN STUPID.

  12. billybleedsblue on

    is it just me, or is Jagr just becoming a shadow of himself? I really think there is something going on inside his head that is making him play poorly. He took himself out last night for the final minute in a game the Rangers desperatly needed point(s) from? and tonight, he’s ok to play? OF COURSE HE IS, HE WASN’T INJURED AT ALL LAST NIGHT. HE JUST DIDN’T WANT TO BE OUT THERE WHEN THE RANGERS COULDN’T TIE THE GAME. there, i said it. i am so upset. somebody needs to call him out on this crap. he is soft and not playing smart hockey at all. i’m so frustrated with this team, i don’t know what to think sometimes…i’m really starting to think that JJ is a complete head-case. ugh. Let’s Go Rangers!

  13. czechthemout!!!!! on

    one thing i will give krog credit for,and that is he goes to the net.also they are playing with more life tonite,but not enough scoring is really hurting this team.yet callahan is still not in the line up,and prucha is not on the power play.

  14. We need new coach… Renney makes me sick. And if Jagr won’t begin playing at his usual level there is absolutely no hope for Playoffs. He’s one of my favourite players but I have to admit – he looks awful. Avery – so far – best Ranger on the ice. And one more – Pock – he’s not playing his game…

  15. czechthemout!!!!! on

    the devils should be out lawed from the nhl.simply put, they interfere,grab,slash hook and never get called for it.that is the secret to hier success.

  16. billy bleeds. I DID call him out on it last night. and Stuart Smalley had a hissy fit. they just can’t stand the facts. he is the Prince of Pout

  17. Jagr, Betts, Orr, Hall, Renney, Straka, Malik, Sather, Maloney, and Dolan are all garbage and this organization will never get rid of all of them, might as well watch another team or none at all.

  18. Doodie Machetto on

    They really need to get Shanahan off of that first PP unit. Put Prucha in his spot. Shanahan can be on the 2nd unit in Prucha’s spot.

  19. billybleedsblue on

    Jagoff, i didn’t realize you had called him out, but you’re with me aren’t you? ha, that goal he just scored…he learned that bank-move from Mary-O, his mentor and biggest cry-baby in the game. unfortunatly, the bank-shot isn’t the only thing he picked up from that oversized panty-waist. i’m glad somebody else is seeing this crap the same way. i don’t know what the solution is, but i don’t like what’s going on.

  20. billybleedsblue on

    Jagr’s numbers are good, but you can’t deny that something has been “off” with him all season. we put a lot of pressure on our stars, that’s for sure. i’m also of the opinion that there’s something wrong with the guy. even though his numbers are good, he’s certainly not playing to his potential.

  21. What’s so complicated? His shoulder is injured and he’s weaker than he was last year and this has created an [mental] additional hesitation. The tougher question is what’s wrong with Nylander? Sympathy pains?

  22. Doodie Machetto on

    billy: it’s his shoulder. On the PP, they pass him the puck in situations that last year he would’ve one-timed over the shoulder and under the crossbar without hesitation. Now he plays pattycake because he doesn’t have the power he used to. He’s also playing at something like 10 lbs under the weight he likes. He started the season even lower than that and has had to put the muscle on IN SEASON. That means extra lifting and stress on his body. The guy is mentally the same as last year, he’s just not physically where he wants to be and it’s very frustrating to him. Imagine knowing as a pass is coming to you that before you injured your shoulder you would’ve been able to drill it home no problem, but now you don’t feel that power.

  23. Doodie:

    I don’t think Avery has been better than he “should be” — he’s shown that playing hard is how every other Ranger “should be”.

  24. Doodie Machetto on

    Chris: it’s beyond playing hard, he’s shown skills above those that he is supposed to have.

    Hollweg plays hard, but I’ve never said to myself, “man, Hollweg looks good tonight” in any fashion other than hitting.

  25. Doodie Machetto on

    He also left his feet on the hit, shouldve been a charge.

    Another poor puck movement choice by Lundqvist. He needs to work on keeping his focus.

  26. Doodie Machetto on

    Don’t worry about the Canes or any team in any other division. Mathematically, it is almost impossible for 4 teams from any one division to make the playoffs because of how often intradivisional rivals play each other. This season, the Atlantic is the weak division, so it will only have 2 representatives. That means the Rangers are going to have to finish 2nd in the Atlantic to make the playoffs.

    Worry about Pittsburgh, who just beat Nashville, a game that we lost.

  27. Doodie:

    I live in LA, I’ve seen him play a bunch. This is who he is — he’s a better player than most of our scrappers.

  28. Doodie Machetto on

    I understand he’s better than our scrappers. I’m saying he’s playing better than I’ve seen him play previously. I’ve seen him a few times because my brother is a Sharks fan.

  29. czechthemout!!!!! on

    worry about renney who is an asshole that keeps puting the same group out on the power play over and over and over again.

  30. Doodie Machetto on

    Nylander has 2 goals and 3 assists in his past 6 games, 3 goals and 10 assists in his last 12.

    Granted, he should’ve buried his shot once he had Brodeur down.

  31. oh well I think I just watched the last game of this season. Have fun everybody and don’t do drugs like Renney hyena.

  32. Frustration goes on… Nylander couldn’t lift the puck when Brodeur was down and just waiting to see it in the net… but he couldn’t lift it… come on!!! And Cullen… why not Hossa? He scored few already. But Renney just SUCKS BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!

  33. czechthemout!!!!! on

    that is what happens when you don’t hit the net on a 2min 4on3 power play in over time one single time.this is what happens when you go one for seven on the power play because you have a jerk of a coach who refuses to change anything on the power play now for 53GAMES!!!!!!!!!!.this is what happens when you don’t have enough scoring on your team,but still refuse to bring up a player who is averaging more than a point per game in the minors.they beed to fire this stubborn moron who is in way over his head in the nhl.a coach who flopped badly in vancouver.a coach who’s only meaningfull succsess is a silver medal in the wjc.

  34. Wow, im surprised how many people are blaming Renney for this loss. I simply cant do that on this one, actually im going to give the 1 point to him. His strategy of never showing the Devils the same look twice in a row was brilliant. Kept the Devils off their game for the bulk of the night. Why was Cullen in there? hes 7/12 lifetime or something like that, those are awesome numbers if you ask me.

    Renney did a masterful coaching job in this one.

  35. Prucha gets nailed with a major league elbow and once again nothing gets done. The officiating is an absolute joke in this league.

  36. All you need to know about Aaron Ward is wrapped up in the Devils’ second goal. Give away the blueline to Oduya like he’s freaking Rocket Richard, backing up so far that Henrik had to use pliers to pry his nose from between #4’s cheeks. What a waste of time and money.

  37. Longtimerangerfan on

    Doodie Machetto
    February 6th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
    Can we replace Renney with the coach from the Oppenheimer Funds commercial?

    I do believe that’s Gene Hackman…and I don’t think he coaches hockey…that said, he couldn’t do any worse!!!!!!!

  38. Wow. I did not read posts all night I am suprised by the negativity. They got a point in NJ, they played well and had their chances.

    My observation is Girardi can play. He is better then Pock. He should stay in the lineup no matter what. He is far from flashy, just steady and smart.

    The 2 points they gave away last night will come back to haunt them with about 10 other gift points.

    If they play like they way they did tonight the rest of the year they have a chance..

  39. Longtimerangerfan on

    cto

    Judging from you recent posts you need to get your blood pressure checked! Dude, it’s still only a game.

  40. on the elbow to Prucha.. I am in LA and had the NJ telecast they said it was clean. I was yelling at the TV he raised up and hit him with the shoulder minimum possible the elbow…

    the NJ announcers always try to say the devils are not boring, interesting they have to continually make that point.

  41. “Prucha gets nailed with a major league elbow and once again nothing gets done. The officiating is an absolute joke in this league.”

    I can’t believe Lokowich wasn’t scared of our supergoon Colton Orr. How dare other teams’ players not be intimidated by Orr? They should shit their pants and call in sick when they see Orr is in the lineup.

  42. Longtimerangerfan on

    Except for the goalie interference, Avery looked pretty good out there…better than a lot of the others that have just been collecting their checks. If he continues to play like that, he will be a fan favorite.

  43. czechthemout!!!!! on

    i appreciate your concern long time.your right it is only a game.i am just frustratedw with this team and the bs they are shoveling at us fans.this blog is a great place for me to vent though and it actually helps my blood pressure so thank you sam for this blog.

  44. a few notes on the game:

    1) avery was the best ranger on the ice….created a lot, high energy

    2) matt cullen didnt cover his man until it was too late on the 2nd goal…he left his man WIDE open to put it home, and only skated to him after the pass was made. as a centerman, you need to have your head on a swivel when in the defensive zone so you can pick up the 3rd man high

  45. if u ask me, the rangers actually played smart and kept the devils on their feet. pandolfo was on the ice w/out jagr, now that says something. the devils and f***ing marty brodeur stole this game. its not fair, yeh but id rather have 1 point in the standing than none.

    and i could say that this was a pretty good game by lundqvist. never mind the shootout, there were some key saves in the 3rd and OT. what a turn around for henrik, and he continues to play well against the devils.

    avery was ok. im not gonna flaunt about this guy, b/c the second goal by the devils was a direct result of him not moving his feet. and one might say that his positives out way it, but no; who knows what would have happened had he forechecked the devil? however, i do like how he says whatevers on his mind, makes for quite some stories.

    overall, i cant say im really disappointed with this outcome. shootouts suck. seriously. how intense was 4 on 4 OT? it was great (had they score on the PP it would have been better), but even so its better than awarding an extra point to a team that can go 1on1 w/ the goalkeeper.

    the devils stole this game. end of story.

  46. Doodie Machetto on

    longtimerangerfan: Hackman is speaking, I’m talking about the hands that make a brief appearance behind a dry erase board constructing a play.

  47. Doodie: Guess you’re right about Nylander’s production, but, man, has his style become painful to watch and that penalty shot made me crazy.

    Ugh, the power play. Come on.

    There had better be a tape of that hit on Prucha going to the league. That was not legit and should have inspired a little retaliation.

    Stuart, think it’s a case of too little, too late frustration.

  48. Doodie Machetto on

    “2) matt cullen didnt cover his man until it was too late on the 2nd goal…he left his man WIDE open to put it home, and only skated to him after the pass was made. as a centerman, you need to have your head on a swivel when in the defensive zone so you can pick up the 3rd man high”

    Sounds like a repeat of the whole beginning of the season. He is dreadful playing defense when he is the 2nd line center because he becomes way to concerned with forcing the offensive play.

  49. czechthemout!!!!! on

    justine-avery was way better than o.k.i think he is as much responsible for the point as anybody on the team.he is much better than any third liner we have.he is what a third liner should be. and that pen. on him was bogus.

  50. Doodie Machetto on

    Sam, what will happen to this blog in April when the regular season ends and the Rangers are in 10th place?

  51. definitly agree that hit should go to the league. all the other teams are doing it, especially pittsburgh. it also seems that the leagues not going to review anything rangers b/c they’re completely biased. (ie- orr adn brashear. orr got 5 games and brashear got like 1?) so rangers might as well ask…

    time to get some retaliation!

  52. The positives are Avery looked good and the team played a pretty complete game against arguable the best team in the East.

    The negatives, 29 games remaining and the Rangers remain
    6 pts out of a playoff spot.

    The Rangers have 8 games left prior to the Feb. 27th trade deadline. Cleary, the Rangers will not be able to squek into the playoffs this year. So I ask everyone on here what moves you think the Rangers will make given theor situation before the trade deadline. Any chance Renney gets fired if the Rangers continue to suck, much like they ended last season?

    Here are my thoughts on possible moves to come.

    The Rangers still need a 2nd line center and they do not have anyone within the organization who is ready to jump into that spot. Now the Rangers have 2 choices, trade for someone now or in the offseason or look for a free agent center in July to sign.

    If they trade for a 2nd line center they should do so thinking that the individual will be their 2nd line center not only for the remainder of this season, but also for next season.

    Of all the names I have seen, the one that I have some interest in in Brendan Morrison in Vancouver. He is still young, he’s a playmaking center, is a North American who can complement Shanny and either Avery or Prucha on the wing. My other choice would be Nathan Horton in Florida, who apparently is unhappy. He is young, big and has a lot of potential.

    Forget Forsberg, Perrault, Stumpel, etc. The price may be too high and they will not mesh with our potential 2nd line.

    I would look for a trade also for a defenseman. The two biggest needs are a puck-moving defenseman and a physical defenseman to move people out in front of the net. As I said before the option is a trade or a free agent pick-up.

    Brewer from St. Louis is an option, but I am not sure how prolific a scorer he can be and JD will aks for a ransom for him. Brooks Orpik in Pittsburgh would fill the void as a physical defenseman. If Sheldon Souray becomes a free agent in July, the Rangers should do whatever it takes to get him. He would immediately be our # 1 defenseman, who can score big on the power play and has a booming shot.

    Dead weight on this team such as Orr, Krog, A.Ward and Malik can be traded for picks or prospects.

    What is everyone’s thoughts?

  53. Doodie Machetto on

    If Avery plays this well from now on, then I’m not the least bit upset about the trade.

  54. Maybe Mess will reconsider and decide to take over behind the bench if Renney gets canned! I can only dream, I guess. Actually, Jim Schoenfiled has made quite a team on Hartford and I wouldn’t mind seeing him behind the Rangers bench either.

  55. Doodie Machetto on

    Omeyer, I’m not really going to comment on any of your stuff other than Morrison is clicking well with Naslund and Vancouver is not likely to let him go as a result.

  56. czechthemout!!!!! on

    cris drury is the only forwrd i would sign.i agree on souray.dump the playrs you said.also time to move weeks.renney needs to go.oh on a side note,we sather now has the dubious distinction of having the only first round draft pick from the 2004 draft to not played a single game in the nhl now that eric fehr (who scored 2 tonite)and shawn belle of dallas has now played also.

  57. Longtimerangerfan on

    Let’s not forget, fans, Malikenstein said he will be ready for Saturdays game…we have that to look forward to and you KNOW Renney is going to play him.

  58. O Myer good post. Horton is young no way Florida will give him up..
    Orpik is not being traded the Penguins are on a run. Perrault also would be a good pickup, I am not suprised how well he is playing in Phx. and they got him for almost nothing because no one wanted him.

    I like their young D men; tyutin, girardi, Pock(eh), Staal is suppose to be very good.

    They need secondary scoring.. Look at Avery he will never score 30, but he can skate and eliminates some dead weight on the roster.

    They need grit, and secondary scoring… They are not that far off from being a good team. As far as my optimism goes, the chance of them making the playoffs is about 33%, their schedule is not that hard, if they can put together 2 5 game winning streaks they have a chance…

    they have 2 games on Carolina, and they are not out of it yet…

    I would only make a trade if they keep all there blue chip minor leaguers else a marginal pickup for some dead weight and a later round pick is fine……

  59. czechthemout!!!!! on

    woooohhoooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooMALIK is playing watch out caps.

  60. weekes contract is up. they need montoya or Valiquette to be the backup. This will allow them to save money.

    Drury would be a huge get. He is everything they are not; gritty, smart, not flashy, and tough……….

  61. they should play some kids to see who is ready for next year.

    then you can sign a player inn the summer to fit the need, such as a C

    but forget trades unless they are selling not buying

  62. Longtimerangerfan on

    Let’s not forget, fans, Malikenstein said he will be ready for Saturdays game…we have that to look forward to and you KNOW Renney is going to play him.

    Which means that Girardi will probably be sent down ’cause he still needs time to hone his game in Hartford.

  63. lets not ignore the fact taht almost EVERY team is going to want drury. definitly try for souray though; an offensive dman should be the number 1 priority. and get rid of weekes and bring up montoya. some say he’ll only be the #1 goalie, but he’ll never be #1 if he doesnt play a freaken game in the nhl.

  64. czechthemout!!!!! on

    callahan/drury/shany 2nd line.jagr/dubinsky/straka.let nylander go at the deadline for a good prospect and a pick.avery/cullen/prucha.trade betts at deadline.hossa/pyatt/hollweg,byers,brodie dupont.on d staal/tytin,girardi/souray,sauer/rozy.trade ward at deadline,trade krapunek as well.pock walks ufa.look to aquire another young d,maybe vandemeer.the king and montoya as backup.and most importantly,fire renney.

  65. you can forget Souray. what would be the point,Pun intended, of getting a guy with a blast from the point when Jagr demands that his czech cronies be at the point and he calls point shots stupid.

  66. Doodie Machetto on

    Rachunek scored from the point tonight. So much for your Czech crony no point shooting theory.

  67. billybleedsblue on

    Doodie Machetto
    February 6th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
    billy: it’s his shoulder. On the PP, they pass him the puck in situations that last year he would’ve one-timed over the shoulder and under the crossbar without hesitation. Now he plays pattycake because he doesn’t have the power he used to. He’s also playing at something like 10 lbs under the weight he likes. He started the season even lower than that and has had to put the muscle on IN SEASON. That means extra lifting and stress on his body. The guy is mentally the same as last year, he’s just not physically where he wants to be and it’s very frustrating to him. Imagine knowing as a pass is coming to you that before you injured your shoulder you would’ve been able to drill it home no problem, but now you don’t feel that power.

    ———————————

    If it’s a physical thing, then how come he’s 6th in ice-time amoungst forwards in the NHL? why is he double shifted and allowed to play as long a shift as he likes? you say it’s his shoulder, but does a shoulder make him skate to the left side to avoid players like Witt on the icelanders when he’s shadowed? I think not. The Jagr that i’ve been watching for years plays through a hack like that, rolls over the competition, plays THROUGH these players, not around them. Gimme a break. It’s not the shoulder. it’s something mental. It could be the pressure of the big C on his sweater. It could be his being somewhat overshadowed by Shanahan’s presence. It could be his favorite panties were discontinued and no longer in production. It could be any number of things, who knows? I see him play without the drive that I know him for…you can see it in how he skates to the bench for his changes. How many -‘s Jagr avoid and Shanahan get as Jagr took his time skating back daydreaming and watching the play develop into the Rangers zone? He’s out to lunch. Somebody please get him a check-up from the neck-up.

  68. Sather said “Who knows in the sports business?� he said. “But I have no immediate plans to do anything.�

    Yea, we know glenn, that’s why another year without making the playoffs.

  69. Omeyer 41 I like your plan. I’d like Horton but we’d have to give Montoya & something else to get him. Horton is young as well. Souray I’m not so sure about his overall game but he’s great on the PP.

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