More sweeping changes through the Rangers

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Michael Nylander shaved his goatee.

Is there really any stopping this team now?

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  1. Doodie Machetto on

    I actually thought he looked better with the goatee. He needed SOME hair on his head, ANYWHERE.

  2. Sam great daily column! I’ve been watching the Rangers since the mid seventies & have had plenty of joy & frustration watching my beloved Broadway Blueshirts. I really enjiy your reporting it makes me feel like an “insider” even though I’m down in Northern Virginia. I watch the team on Direct TV & occasionally watch them on the road against the Caps. I have a few questions for you:
    1- Can you ask Renney what his definition of playing youth is? Why are they not allowed to make mistakes & grow? ie Peter Prucha being put on the 4th line & not the first!
    2- Is this Girardi kid going to be allowed to play his game even if it means growing pains?
    3-Who the hell is in charge of the drafting? Has it changed since 04? It seems 04 is the turning point where someone must have gotten Slats ear because it seems we may have done better since then. Things like Drafting Jessiman over Parise are whats killing this team!
    I just hope they don’t make a bonehead trade at the deadline because this team is too soft & is not going to get out of the 1st round!
    We should model the franchise after Detroit,Buffalo & the Devils & make it a tough team to play against.
    Play the kids & let them learn!
    C

  3. its a shame… 7 years of abysmal hockey leading to quality draft pick positions… and next to nothing to show for… considering Pittsburgh grabbed Crosby, Malkin, J. Staal, Fleury etc…

  4. when the rangers get the first pick in the draft, i’m sure they’ll be able to draft a superstar as well, just as pittsburgh has.

  5. Well actually…it wasn’t 7 years of abysmal hockey. It was 7 years of mediocre hockey, which ended up with the Rangers NOT getting any quality draft positions.

    Constantly picking around the 10 spot usually means the top end talent is gone by then.

    Pittsburgh picked up Crosby, Fleury, Staal, and Malkin because they’re a crap franchise they continually needs to be “saved” and has been mismanaged for years and years. So they end up getting top 2 draft picks for years in a row.

    Yes, I’m bitter about the fact that Pittsburgh managed to pick top 2 in the draft 4 years in a row. That’s just unacceptable in my mind.

    But my original point was that the Rangers have not had quality draft positions over the years and comparing them to the Penguins is a poor comparison when it comes to drafted players. The Penguins couldn’t have messed up their draft picks if they tried.

  6. Doodie Machetto on

    Look, the Jessiman draft was a blunder, but for the years that they actually had a first round pick under Sather, he didn’t do THAT bad. I mean, a lot of the best players get overlooked in drafts because they are unknown. A great example is 1990:

    Jagr was selected 5th. Those that were selected above him:
    Owen Nolan, Petr Nedved, Keith Primeau, Mike Ricci. Derian Hatcher was 8, then mostly nobodies until 19, Keith Tkachuk. Number 20 was Broduer. There were only 21 picks in the first round.

    Somehow, 4 GMS found Jagr not to be the best, and those 4 and 15 others (not counting the Pens) decided that their lousy picks were more valuable than Brodeur.

    PS, the Rangers drafted Michael Stewart at 13. We could’ve had Brodeur.

  7. Does anyone think that Shanny sits out too often?
    Do you think that has any impact on his chemistry (lack of) with linemates?

  8. Doodie Machetto on

    rich, I might think that if he even had consistent linemates. seeing as his line is constantly reshuffled, I don’t think he would have enough time to establish any chemistry anyway.

  9. Why on earth would we have drafted Brodeur when we had a very young Mike Richter AND Vanbiesbrouck at the time? Besides, after watching that Game 7 of Rangers/Devs from 13 years ago I still wouldn’t trade places. Despite our team’s lousy last 10 years, and their great 10 years, head-to-head, when it mattered far more than it ever has since, our team won.

  10. Guys, you can’t really predict how player improves over the years after drafting. Brodeur has improved a lot.

  11. Doodie Machetto on

    Yeah, but it would’ve been that much easier to beat NJ if they didn’t have Brodeur.

    Also, why would we draft Montoya when we had Blackburn? It’s called depth. The Sharks have two great goaltenders and a third in the pipe (Schaeffer). They also used to have Kipprusoff. Why not have a steady stream of great goaltenders? And by the way, Richter had that great year, but was pretty pedestrian for the rest of his career.

  12. Doodie Machetto on

    STF, that’s my point. Just because we haven’t landed a superstar doesn’t mean they aren’t drafting the right guys. Unless the player is a slam dunk like Crosby, it’s really hard to predict how they’ll turn out.

    The Islanders are guilty too, taking Dipietro over Heatley.

  13. Doodie, that’s fair.

    I’ve been thinking it over, and everyone says how come only Girardi, and the more I think of it, I think calling up only 1 person, for NOW, was a smart move. I think we need to see Girardi in gametime action in order to be certain that he’s here to stay. If Renney decide he stays, THEN you waive someone else paving the road for the next man. Otherwise, he becomes your open slot.

    Does that make any sense?

  14. Doodie Machetto on

    Rich, in a way, that does make sense, provided that he is given a legitimate shot to succeed.

    The problem is, being so close to the trade deadline and with the season able to slip away within a bad 4 or 5 game stretch, there isn’t really too much try out time for other players if you slowly introduce them.

  15. Trevor Kidd was more highly regarded than Martin Brodeur.The Hockey News had Kidd rated higher then Brodeur.Many people were surprised the Devils passed up on Kidd to take Broduer

  16. One at a time makes perfect sense. As much as I’d like them to be, the Rangers ARE NOT the Sabres. If we call up too many kids and they suck, you know everyone on here is going to complain anyway, so we may as well just do it one at a time. Buffalo was lucky to call up half of the kids from the Rochester Americans and have them all mesh and form a deep team. That could work for us, but who knows… not really sure.

  17. Doodie Machetto on

    “Trevor Kidd was more highly regarded than Martin Brodeur.The Hockey News had Kidd rated higher then Brodeur.Many people were surprised the Devils passed up on Kidd to take Broduer”

    Exactly. You never know.

  18. Levitate,

    Pittsburg won the crosby pick in that stupid drawing they had.

    If the NHL wanted to grow the sport quickly after the lock-out, they should have rigged the draft so The Rangerws got the 1st pick. What could possibly be better for the NHL than having the wonder-boy Crosby play in front of the big lights of NYC?

    Didn’t the NBA rig the Ewing draft so he can come to NY?

  19. Girardi is a start. But in all of Renney’s comments and interviews he sounds as if he knows he needs more or better personnel, but his hands are tied.

  20. “Levitate,

    Pittsburg won the crosby pick in that stupid drawing they had.

    If the NHL wanted to grow the sport quickly after the lock-out, they should have rigged the draft so The Rangerws got the 1st pick. What could possibly be better for the NHL than having the wonder-boy Crosby play in front of the big lights of NYC?

    Didn’t the NBA rig the Ewing draft so he can come to NY?”

    But the NHL is mismanaged and run by morons. who puts an allstar game on a wednesday night opposite american idol, and on a channel no one gets……

  21. Seems to me that one at a time is hedging your bets. How many games is Girardi going to get to prove himself? What if he makes some mistakes? Then the management is still not going to feel confident losing the dead weight veteran d-men and then they call up another young guy and go through the same process?

    It’s better than nothing but it still feels a bit too cautious for a team whose defensive corps is just not good at all.

  22. Seems to me that one at a time is hedging your bets too much. How many games is Girardi going to get to prove himself? What if he makes some mistakes? Then the management is still not going to feel confident losing the dead weight veteran d-men and then they call up another young guy and go through the same process?

    It’s better than nothing but it still feels a bit too cautious for a team whose defensive corps is just not good at all.

  23. I have felt all along that Renney is subject to Mr. Sather’s repeated MO of not giving youth a fair chance to either, make it to the NHL level or, be used in situations to succeed at the NHL level.

    Renney’s comments that SAM posted yesterday plainly echo his position of modest influence in attempts to call up and acutally use skilled Hartford players.

    Hall is next to go. His recent view(s) from the press box certainly suggest that. So who would be the next RW call-up? Callahan?

  24. Richter’s career was pedestrian?

    Hmmm…….

    14 years with the same team
    301 career wins – A team record
    2.89 career GAA
    .904 career Save Pct
    24 career shutouts
    Multiple All-Star
    All Star game MVP
    Stanley Cup Champion
    World Cup Champion
    Olympic Silver Medalist
    A 42 win season
    4 S/o’s in one play-off year
    A brilliant one-on-one netminder

    Pedestrian? If I was a young goalie breaking into the league and a fortune teller told me I’d have a career like that. I’d give my left lung and sign on the dotted line.

  25. I just hope Renney commits to the kid (Girardi) so he he can relax & play his game. Otherwise he may play scared thinking if he coughs it up or misses a hit he’ll be sent back down.

  26. “If the NHL wanted to grow the sport quickly after the lock-out, they should have rigged the draft so The Rangerws got the 1st pick. What could possibly be better for the NHL than having the wonder-boy Crosby play in front of the big lights of NYC?”

    But there is one small problem – Bettman hates Rangers…

  27. yeah, the nba rigged the ewing draft. they froze NY’s envelope so that the deputy commissioner would be able to easily pick it out from everyone else’s. 2 former NBA exec’s have come out and said that.

    melrose and i think either shanahan or roenick came out and said that the rangers should have just been given the top pick for the good of the league.

  28. Chris, good point. I wish they didn’t waste SO much time giving players like Ozolinsh or Kasperitis. However, I don’t think anyone from the Rangers thought we’d be where we are now. That, and as much as we are thirsty of young blood, it can’t be forced, they have to be ready. Girardi will debut vs. the Flyers and than the Bruins, and I don’t think its coincidence. If he can prove himself in those two games, then we have a problem.

  29. I meant to say if he “can’t” prove himself in those two games, then we have a problem.

  30. Doodie Machetto on

    Beck3 “2.89 career GAA
    .904 career Save Pct”

    yeah, I hear the Hall of Fame calling any minute now.

    The 301 wins as a Ranger is only because he was the only goaltender they had long enough to get that many wins as a Ranger.

    His 14 year career exclusively with the Rangers just goes to show that Richter was a Ranger through and through, and his number deserves to be in the rafters. But don’t try and make him out to be some kind of all-time great goaltender. Aside from that year in 1994, his NHL(not counting international competitions) career was pretty average for a starting goaltender.

    By the way, over a 14 year career, 24 shutouts is nothing to brag about.

    Hank had better numbers in his rookie season than Richter had in any one year of his entire career. You could even mix and match Richter’s best GAA’s and save %s and Hank still had better ones.

    By the way, 1994, Richter’s best year, was also Beezer’s best year, where he played with the expansion Panthers and had the fifth highest GAA and sixth highest save %, both better than Richter’s, earning him a nomination for both the Vezina and Hart trophies.

    Richter was big in big games(which is why his international record was great), but rather average in the regular season. Kind of the opposite of Marty Turco.

  31. Nobody is calling the Hall of Fame. But his career was steller and much more then just pedertrian. It’s a juvenile comment IMHO. The fact that he put up such excellent numbers with a crap team in front of him for half his career is even more impressive. But, I don’t think that’s gonna really make a difference with you so it’s a dead in the water subject I suppose.

  32. Doodie Machetto on

    Yeah, especially when you consider that those numbers aren’t, in any way, impressive.

  33. Longtimerangerfan on

    Beck3 “2.89 career GAA
    .904 career Save Pct�

    yeah, I hear the Hall of Fame calling any minute now.

    The 301 wins as a Ranger is only because he was the only goaltender they had long enough to get that many wins as a Ranger.

    Giacomin was with the Rangers a long time and to tell the truth, Villemure usually was better during the season but Eddie was a money goalie…the same holds true with Chico Resch and Billy Smith.

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