Shanny and Cullen miss practice; Ortmeyer close

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Here are some tidbits from practice today:

1. Brendan Shanahan and Matt Cullen sit out: No cause for alarm. Both were just banged up last night and need the break, according to Tom Renney, and Renney said they should return to the ice tomorrow. For what it’s worth, both were in the weight room after practice, so they must be fine. Neither came into the locker room and were thus unavailable.

“Just some minor aches and pains we thought we’d take care of,” Renney said.

2. Jed Ortmeyer is getting close to returning to the ice: After yesterday’s call-up, this is hardly breaking news. Renney said they’ll look at Ortmeyer again at practice tomorrow, then decide what to do (although that’s what he said yesterday). Renney isn’t sure whether Ortmeyer will be activated or sent back to Hartford for another conditioning assignment. Ortmeyer felt he got rid of some rust and is ready to play. He’s no longer taking medication and feels 100 percent healthy.

“We’re going to see him tomorrow and watch him very closely again,” Renney said. “I think we’re getting closer to getting him in the lineup, whether that happens right away here or if we send him to Hartford for a couple more games remains to be seen.”

“It’s their decision,” Ortmeyer said about possibly going back to Hartford. “Of course, I want to stay here and I want to play as soon as possible, but they’re making the decisions. If I go there, it’s not going to change my attitude or the way I approach things. I’ll try and get ready to get in the lineup again. If it means going down there and playing, that’s what I’ll do.”

“I got the rust off and got the adrenaline going,” Ortmeyer said. “Now it’s just seeing where I fit and what I have to do.”

“There’s no medical issues,” he added. “I just have to be aware of symptoms, but other than that they’ve cleared me to go.”

3. Renney is undecided on Straka: I asked Renney twice if he had a feeling for where Martin Straka will play Friday. He wasn’t sure yet, but said Straka can play anywhere. I’m sure many of you will disagree.

“There is some chemistry that you can appreciate with Michael and Jaromir,” Renney said.

Petr Prucha played a little on the first line, even before Nylander went out, but Renney said it wasn’t specifically to get Prucha going. “We need scoring from everybody, naturally, and Petr’s one of those guys that has a good touch. I think he can provide that pretty much anywhere in our lineup.”

4. Lampman had earned a look: That’s essentially how Renney termed the decision to promote Bryce Lampman over Baranka or Girardi, who he singled out by name for their strong play. Again, he wasn’t sure if Lampman will play — the health of Marek Malik may impact that, he said — but the staff wanted a look at him since it’s so difficult for the NHL guys to catch Hartford. Renney said the Hartford staff recommends players and that they’ve done well so far. He noted Pock’s strong play yesterday and Immonen’s continued contributions.

“We may do something there,” Renney said of playing Lampman. “It may depend on Marek, but we just wanted to get educated a little bit.”

5. Nylander contrite: Michael Nylander — who, as you know, was benched for the third period, along with others like Jason Ward, Darius Kas, and Marcel Hossa — was very contrite today. The penalty wasn’t intentional — he told me he tried to hook Martinek’s stick and that his just slipped high — but Nylander understood the benching; it was a penalty he couldn’t take.

“Of course, you want to play and help the team and go from there,” Nylander said. “But the reason was the penalty was a double-minor. … Our team has taken a lot of penalties in the past. We want to be disciplined and stay out of the box. I think Tom had seen a lot of penalties in the past and he wanted to set an example.”

“If we’re going to win hockey games, we have to stay out of the penalty box,” Nylander added. “That was one way to show the team.”

Renney felt Nylander was working hard on the play in question but that he had overextended his shift. Nylander was told that, but he said the penalty itself was the tipping point.

“I think the biggest part was the penalty,” Nylander said.

6. A little fun and games: An intense practice lasted about 10 or 15 minutes longer than normal, but about 30 minutes more after that there were still two players on the ice and I saw them as I left the rink: Your goalie, Henrik Lundqvist, and your captain, Jaromir Jagr, were playing the hockey equivalent of a 1-on-1.

I only saw them briefly – they left not long after I started watching them – but a helmetless Jagr basically lined up three pucks between the circles and took each at Lundqvist, sort of a shootout at short range. Jagr was thwarted on his first two tries but pumped the third past Lundqvist on a short wrister. I got the idea Lundqvist had proclaimed he’d stop all three because he seemed annoyed Jagr beat him. Either way, you should be glad to know they not only left the ice last but they were sweating profusely. The moral? I don’t think Jagr has quit on the Rangers, as many of you have said. He wouldn’t have been out there otherwise.

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  1. Patrick Hoffman…good catch. I’m probably the first, er, one-millionth, to make the mistake and thus prompt the joke about how Marcel’s team (juniors, minors, NHL, whatever) wishes it was Marian. Looking at it like that, you have to feel bad for the guy. I would compare him to Eli Manning, but right now he’s more of an Ozzie Canseco.

  2. According to Zipay’s blog Billy Guerin is on the Rangers radar, and they’re also looking to make a deal for a dman probably one over 30. Josh what were the lines in practice today?

  3. hockeymanrangers on

    I don’t think Renney see’s the urgentcy here, he is taking these losses with a HO HUM attitude. I saw a pregame interview and it was just ridiculous with what he was saying. My god!!! he could at least just act like he is getting nervous about losing his job or concerned about the 6 losses. This kind of a attitude ticks me off to end, I am sorry to say this and I would never wish this upon him BUT if a one of our diehard NY fan got ahold of him, my god help him.

  4. “””””according to Zipay’s blog Billy Guerin is on the Rangers radar, and they’re also looking to make a deal for a dman probably one over 30.””””

    gee, what a surprise. as I said before, JD will be trying to unload his over-the-hill-vets for Ranger youth. It just never ends.

  5. Actually, Guerin does not sound so bad… He is physical power forward – may add some toghness plus he rejuvinated his play from last year in St. Louis. But that means we going to have to give up some our youth espesially to St’Louis since they are re-building. This deal would sound better if we package Kaspar and maybe Hall or Hossa… Just wishful thinking.

  6. BG is a UFA at seasons end…shouldnt cost too much…Ward and a pick could get it done..problem then is the competition for other teams to snag BG….culd become an auction for the highest bidder.

  7. p4b as usual you’re dreaming if you think that Guerin will come at the cheap of a price considering how he’s play. I’d also add that other gms now how stupid Sather is, and they’ll demand the moon and the stars.

  8. thinking that any other team would want Jason Ward in exchange for a first line player is beyond ridiculous.

  9. Heres an idea………
    Play the kids, If they wanted to they could try and find answers to our problems within the organization

  10. First off- JD is not that dumb. Your package of players probably couldnt make a dog make this trade.
    Second-Bill Guerin is 36 and anyone with brains would realize it isnt worth the kids we would give up. (It might happen because this Organization is run horribly)
    third- I think Bill Guerin has more goals in the last week than Hossa, Hall and Kasparaitis have in their whole season

  11. “”””””””Heres an idea………

    Play the kids, If they wanted to they could try and find answers to our problems within the organization”””

    of course that is the best course of action, I agree, but you can expect Sather to do just the opposite, trade youth for more vets.

    just like he traded for Isbister, just like he told the fan Brad that “the kids aren’t ready”, just like he toys with bringing back Leetch, or going after Guerin, the “Marquee Madness” will never stop.

    the Rangers first problem is a poor coach, who is clearly inferior to Ted Nolan, Lindy Ruff, Peter Laviolette, John Tortorella, etc. etc.

  12. This hasn’t been addressed anywhere, so I’ll ask. What’s going on with Ozo. Is he not reporting to Hartford? He is not listed on the roster on the Pack’s Web site and has yet to play a game for them. Josh, Sam? Could you find out what’s going on?

  13. czechthemout!!!!! on

    hey ,maybe we can get brett hull and adam oates for montoya,dubinsky,staal,bobby s.and a number one from the blues and also rob ramage coming to us as well.

  14. Bill Guerin. Just shoot me.

    Sather already tried that with Lindros, Holik, Bure, Malkhov etc etc etc.

    Little doubt the clown will do it again.

  15. Ozo is posting at Bird’s and Rodent’s site indicating how underrated he thinks “Ozo” is. He is using various alias’s but can easily be spotted.

  16. Just say no to Guerin,Weight,Ruscinski, Tkachuk,Roberts,Foote,Holik,..UNLESS a veteran goes back the other way.

    The only way to trade is to dump vets and retreads for low draft picks.

    I did think of one I might do. Weekes,Straka,Kasper. For Fedoryuk and Esche.

  17. straka is easily the rangers most underrated player. he does so much both with the puck and without.

  18. PLay teh kids…and lsoe all teh games…thst is if you put tehm ont he top two lines. Other than Prucha it dosnt seem the Ragners have and top two line kids 100% ready. Callahan could go there I guess, but as young as he is the AHL IS a good thing for him…theer is something to letting a kid devlope in teh AHL for at least one year. Dawes isnt even doing as well in hartford, so he should be left alone to get his game going for this year…and teh Ragners dont, as far as i know, have a top two center in the system that is ready to move up. SO the paly teh kids thing really will jsut point out even further the weak areas the Rangers have now. I really dont think there is much to the Rumors with St. Louis…the guys who are reporting those rumors are always reporting the rangers are about to trade their top prospects for old palyers…I dont think they ehar anything…or they hera of a team calling to say player “x” is availible, and they turn it into the Rangers are interested.

  19. Who honestly believes that Jagr has quit on this team? He tries to come back and play defense although he admits he isnt good at it. He takes hits without complaining that NO ONE besides Shanny does anything about it. And even at that all you hear is “oh and shananhan has some words with ….”. In all honesty he has a right to be somewhat annoyed with the others and their lack of production! No team can win on the back of one player, or one line of players. When a team becomes one dimensional its easy to key in on their best player and shut them down see the NY Rangers down the stretch last yr. Add to that suspect defense and giveaways and you have a recipe for disaster.

  20. wildcard play the kids and lose all the games you say? Well they’re playing all the geezers and losing so I’d rather see young hungry kids instead.

  21. I don’t think Jagr has quit on the team but he does seem to be back to some of his pouty ways like when he was with Washington. A lot of folks posting about playing the kids are pretty much on the money but I think that has got to stop. It’s just not going to happen. What, if anything, about this current “braintrust” gives folks an indication that they will play the youngsters? Yet, folks keep calling for that. Not gonna happen. Not under this group of people. Folks need to get that through their heads. People should also stop complaining about Colton Orr. He hasn’t played the last few games so it’s a mute point. Once the “almighty savior” Ortmeyer is activated, Orr is likely gone anyway. So people can just save themselves headaches by complaining about those two aspects of the Rangers ’cause the kids ain’t playing and Orr will soon be gone.

  22. Guerin, Tkachuk, Morris, Weight?!?!

    same old Rangers!

    Ridiculous!!!

    i thought this bull was over!!…obviously not…

    nice rebuild…

    AZ

  23. >>”Again, he wasn’t sure if Lampman will play — the health of Marek Malik may impact that, he said — but the staff wanted a look at him since it’s so difficult for the NHL guys to catch Hartford. Renney said the Hartford staff recommends players and that they’ve done well so far. He noted Pock’s strong play yesterday and Immonen’s continued contributions.

  24. “Again, he wasn’t sure if Lampman will play — the health of Marek Malik may impact that, he said — but the staff wanted a look at him since it’s so difficult for the NHL guys to catch Hartford. Renney said the Hartford staff recommends players and that they’ve done well so far. He noted Pock’s strong play yesterday and Immonen’s continued contributions.”

    So basically you’re saying that the NY staff doesn’t trust the Hartford staff to know when somebody is ready for the jump. That’s what I suspected all along.

    I know it’s naive to think that politics doesn’t exist within the organization, but this quote confirms that it does.

    They are saying, “OK, you say he’s ready but we want to see him in practice for a week or two before we give him actual playing time”… and of course, after 2 weeks of not playing, the player will have lost his edge, and his timing, and will be deemed unready for the NHL. This has happened a number of times already, with Dawes, Callahan and Pock. “So there, you guys in Hartford aren’t that smart.” Nyaaa Nyaaa.

    Of course, the only staff in the organization that IS trustworthy, IMO, is the Hartford staff. I’d like to see a flip-flop of the 2 staffs – I’m sure we’d be much improved. If Renney is such a good developer of talent (we certainly didn’t see much of that so far with the big club), then he’s more suited for the Wolf Pack than the Rangers, where the “talent” is supposed to be developed already. (BWAAHAHAHAHA!).

  25. Go NYR posted this contradiction :”First off- JD is not that dumb. Your package of players probably couldnt make a dog make this trade.
    Second-Bill Guerin is 36 and anyone with brains would realize it isnt worth the kids we would give up. (It might happen because this Organization is run horribly)
    third- I think Bill Guerin has more goals in the last week than Hossa, Hall and Kasparaitis have in their whole season”

    First you say that Ward and a pick couldnt get BG

    Then you brilliantly post how BG isnt worth the kids we would give up. So is he or isnt he worth anything?

    Third – you state exactly why this team could use someone who can score…I’ll take a 36 year old for 5 months who can score over two years of 25 year olds who cant.

    Your collective mentalities contradict themselves consistently. You want to win with the kids , yet when we play the ones who can handle the NHL without looking like a deer in the headlights , you complain they suck.

    Now we have 2 rookies in the lineup and you will still complain. I believe it has more to do with losing than the kids…If this team was winning , you wouldnt be bashing guys like Hossa and Betts who backcheck wonderfully night in and night out , and do their job well…sure they may turn the puck over occasionally , but even the best playes in the world do that occasionally. Your expectations are way too high for this team and Maloney stated before the season even started to expect that. Considering its close to the same team , how did he know that? Does he know , does the organization know that the team overachieved last season. What happened to Jagr’s claim that we had the best 3 and 4th lines in the league?

  26. I thought we were done with the corporate backstabbing when Neil Smith was fired??? This management team has a blind owner who will never fire Sather. But still there is backstabbing between Schoenfeld and Renney?

  27. hockeymanrangers on

    Ok I was just on the Blue Shirt Bulliten sight and apparently no one is to concerned yet. I guess they pay no attention to people that matter most THE NY RANGER FANS. Renny, Sather, the entire team please find the panic button and press it TODAY.

  28. If the organzation listened to the New York Fans , we’d have a team that closely resembles the Hartford Wolfpack and be playing for the first over all pick from the basement..

  29. yup big difference from 4 playoff games in the last 7 years, and 0 top picks imagine if they had the #1 pick in 04. P4b you made a dopey trade suggestion, and are now upset that everyone called you out on it.

  30. Bobby Holik is 8 10 18 and a +7 this was the Bobby Holik we thought we were getting when he signed for a ton of money a few seasons ago. This is the BObby Holik I’ll take on my team now. Of course as it seems in NYC, he was a player signed and then played in the wrong situations. He is a checking line center ask to keep the puck out of the net when on the ice and he’ll get his fair share of points by playing transition hockey. He was our #1 center here in NYC, and he had a horrible time here.

    The same is true for Matt Cullen. Cullen is NOT a 2nd line center, he is a checker who should get his points on transition or the PP. But of course because of horrendous drafting and trading Sather makes the same mistake again. It’s like putting a Toyota Corrola in a NASCAR race and asking it to finish in the top ten, it’s not made for it.

    And Billy Guerin would not help this team because a) it will take more time away from Prucha, who in my opinion should be playing more minutes per game instead of less and b) the R’s are still deficient at the center position, so who is going to get him the puck? And who will play defense when BG is on the ice?

    The Rangers need help up the middle, they need a star, they need a Mats Sundin (if indeed TO falls out of the race before the Rangers do or they need a Mike Comrie) but enough with the wingers.

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