As Hossa goes…

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…so go the Rangers.

Isn’t that what I’ve always said?

Meanwhile, looking for some help in an ongoing discussion with some of the writers: Who is the best former Ranger currently in the NHL?

Candidates include Mattias Norstrom, Sergei Zubov, Alexei Kovalev, even Marc Savard. Feel free to write-in a few of your own.

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  1. Schneiders a damn good player as well, though i havent been following what hes done this year.

    but id go with Norstrom. not many players like him.

  2. Doodie Machetto on

    I’m in class, how is the game? I see Hossa scored. Seems like it’s going well.

    Best former Ranger is Petruzalek (Sorry, I had to)

    For real, best former Ranger currently in the NHL is either Zubov, who is year after year in the top 5 of defenseman every year. Schneider is a very close second. Savard third.

    Others for the list: Mike York, Kim Jonsson, Eric Lindros (who is doing surprisingly well in Dallas).

    Best former Ranger not in the NHL but still playing hockey: Theo Fleury.

  3. Doodie Machetto on

    just put your stick on the puck and don’t get down on your luck, it’s the Rangers victory song…

  4. Are we talking guys who started their careers with the Rangers, or anyone who’s ever played for the Rangers? I’d go with Zubov either way though.

  5. Hey Sam,

    Wayne Gretzky’s still in the NHL, technically.
    Just kidding. Hey, stopping doing so well with the Rangers beat, it’s making me look bad.

  6. No question, it is Zubov. When the Rangers traded him, along with Nedved, it was when Neil Smith wanted team toughness and Zubov was seen as a soft defenseman. What a horrible move by Smith – Robitaille underperformed on Broadway and Samuelsson was the only steady part of the deal. However, in retrospect, Zubov is a talented playewr that has proven to be the model of consistency in Dallas. I mean, Neil, how do you trade the guy when he was leading your team in points in ’94 regular season. I mean can you believe a defenseman was leading the team in points on that great team. Just looking at that, Neil deserved to get canned. Honorable mention for former Rangers still playing goes to Mattias Norstrom who went on to captain the Kings and also be a consistent player and leader. Norstrom was also traded in Neil Smith’s desire to find team toughness. The Norstrom trade was atrocious bringing us McSorely who was slow and miserable, Nathan Lafayette – who was aquired because he hit a cross bar in one of the Finals games against the Rangers in 94, SHane Churla – who was tough, but slow and fought so much he broke his hands, and finally Jari Kurri, who was past his prime, but was servicable playing on a checking line with Niklas Sundstrom (did he retire?). How about starting discussions about who are some of the worst or underachieving Rangers who are currently playing in the NHL – my votes go tro Manny Malholtra and Jamie Lundmark!

  7. I believe Zubov, HATED that stupid trade and it soured me on Luc R. forever … God he did NOTHING here and we lost Zubov for him! UGH!

    He is still going strong and every year he quarterbacks the Stars PP and is just near the top of the League for a D-Man in minutes played and points … I am certain that he will finish his career with them ….

    GREAT Game tonight by team … from the defense to the forwards(Specially that checking line, they are really hustling and playing very well, specially since they keep the play in the other team’s defensive zone most of the time that they are out there) … Henrik got a Shutout and well deserved .. he made some key saves tonight … just before Jags scored the 3rd goal of the game he made a nifty save that would’ve made the score 2-1 and instead a few moments later it was 3-0 … BRAVO!

  8. ZUBOV,SCHNEIDER,NORDSTROM,JONSON, ON D
    SAVARD,YORK,LINDROS,KOVELEV,MOORE,SAMUELSON,KNUBLE AT FORWARD.
    MARKENNEN,DUNHAM..G
    OHH..AND TOM POTI!!

  9. Not the best at this point but Ammonte. other Ekman had a good season a with the sharks last year. Weight won the cup with carolina last season. Sykora is having a good season with edmonton. But Zubov IMO is the best.

  10. The answer to this is obviously Glen Healy, afterall i think that commentator status fits into the “still in the nhl” guidelines you’ve given us. hands down the coolest backup golie ever in my opinion, and i dont even really know why. Healy for president ’08.

  11. I concur with Zubov, but I also think Norstrom and Aaron Miller are two that stand out. And Patrick beat me to the Zidlicky.

    Based on some of the comments the last couple of days:

    Damn, Hossa sucks.
    That Jagr sure is holding us back. As long as he’s on this team, we’re done.
    They should have given Shanny the C, because he has so much Ranger history.

    I dunno, but this team has potential to skate with any team. We have beaten or played with the best (including back to back wins against the last two Stanley Cup Chanmpions and almost a third with the Devils minus the Pitt and Carolina games) teams, like Buffalo, Anaheim, San Jose, Toronto and Atlanta. The two different style scoring lines make it a tough defensive game plan for opponents. If we play disciplined all four lines get to play. Add Ortmeyer to the 4th line over Orr and you’ve got 4 decent lines (yes, Hossa has earned his third line status along with the obviously needed reunion of Betts and Ward- what took so long?) I think Ozo is the only suspect guy, as Malik seems to have at least returned to last seasons form. I’d still like to see Kaspar back for a few games.

  12. Without a doubt it’s Zubov. He’s a great player who didn’t get the respect he deserved when he played at MSG. Trading him was one of the worst moves in recent Ranger history — which is saying something, right?

    Funny how tame this board gets when the Rangers win…

  13. Dammit, why couldn’t they have won 5-0. And allowed zero shots on goal. And won three fights. Bums.

    Jagr: Here’s a guy who came off major shoulder surgery and still led the league in scoring. Unreal. The guy really is superman. Now that he’s regaining his full strength, if he stays healthy look for him to make a shambles out of the scoring race.

    The Zubov Trade…Blame Messier for that one. After a Philly playoff game where the Flyers keyed on Zubie and repeatedly smashed him on the forecheck, Messier deemed Zubie too soft and was a heavy influence on Smith to trade him. Broke up one of the most potent d-men power play combos in NHL history while they were still young. Thanks a bunch, Mess.

  14. I thought when we traded Kondratiev the defensive zone drop passes would stop. But Malik has done it twice in the last week or so.

    Now THAT is an automatic benchable offence if you ask me.

  15. The Zubov Trade…Blame Messier for that one. After a Philly playoff game where the Flyers keyed on Zubie and repeatedly smashed him on the forecheck, Messier deemed Zubie too soft and was a heavy influence on Smith to trade him. Broke up one of the most potent d-men power play combos in NHL history while they were still young. Thanks a bunch, Mess.

    That is the first time I heard that version of why Zubov was traded. Where did you find that story?

  16. I thought when we traded Kondratiev the defensive zone drop passes would stop. But Malik has done it twice in the last week or so.
    Now THAT is an automatic benchable offence if you ask me.

    I agree. Malik is the one who hurts the Rangers D. Not Ozo. Malik gives up the puck more often, and can’t make a pass even if he had the puck tied on a string to a teammates stick! Just awful.

  17. Chris- Right on! People love to doom and gloom, but it’s not nearly as much fun to talk about a team positively after you’vce spent hours blasting everyone in the organization.

    I want a solid development system. I want homegrown stars. BUT, and this is a big BUT (I cannot lie!) the bottom line is I want a team I can get behind with pride. After 7 seasons of futility, last year was incredible. The only bummer was that we finished weak and didn’t have any answer after Jagr.

    Our biggest complaints during the 7 year exile from the playoffs was that we had a team that didn’t care. Yes we had vets, but the difference between those vets and this group of vets is that they care and they are producing. They work hard and that is all I can ask from the players on the ice.

    The team has had a few off nights this year and we definitely stumbled out of the gate (jags and lundy were not themselves. Look at our fortunes with them playing well now) but over this last stretch, the games we have won have demonstrated we can play with the best in the league.

    The comments about how Jags is hindering our progression towards a team that the city can love is ridiculous. Jagr is like nothing that has ever been on broadway. He’s got charisma, a sense of humor and the ability to dominate a game. We still have a young team and we have prospects who will be pushing to get in over the next two years. I don’t particularly like Ozolnish or even Malik, but I wasn’t thrilled with Hossa and Renney’s patience with him shows he knows a lot more about hockey than I ever will.

  18. I meant to say also that this year we have struggled early, which even Adam Graves mentioned was a good thing. The best teams struggle with adversity early and get better as the season progresses. We also have a secondary scoring threat with the Shanahan line. That line is different than the rucinsky-sykora type second line which played too similar to Jagr’s line. We have a 1-2 punch anchored by two very different 600 goal scorers who are still at the tops of their game.

  19. Sam, any idea where Joe Tollesson was last night? Early Thanksgiving?

    The fill-in for Joe T is ok but I prefer him to wear the (A) as he usually does. But the fill-in (A) last night is perfect for the general info announcements with his “Disney” voice.

  20. Zubov or Kovalev is the best player in terms of skill and talent, but in terms of current form Petr Sykora has 11G, 11A (3G 6A on PP and 4 GWG)in 21 games with the Oil this year

  21. Technically Hossa gets the game-winner, and between this and the SO, he now accounts for 4 of the Rangers points!

    Hossa for captain!

  22. DOUG WEIGHT…….. Guess everyone forgot him… His Career numbers are close to Tony Amonte’s though: 896 to 877 and still counting

  23. Weight got Tikkanen which helped get the cup. Zubov got Robataille who did nothing who got K Stevens. So the Rangers traded Zubov for nothing.

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