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The Rangers are doing the off-ice thing today in Florida before hopping a flight to Atlanta. First kayak races in Lake George, then a bike ride in Santa Monica, now a workout at their Florida hotel. Is this a hockey team or some sort of elaborate Club Med vacation?

Meanwhile, a couple of quick updates:

  • No, that was not an illusion, Jaromir Jagr did lose a couple of teeth last night in the win over Florida. But here’s the good news: none of them were his to begin with. Somehow I don’t think that’s something you hear often in, say, the insurance business.
  • Colton Orr is day-to-day with back spasms after being slammed by Florida’s Martin Gelinas last night. If you’re Nigel Dawes and you don’t at least play the next game, you have my permission to be completely disenchanted.
  • Get ready for Hossa on Hossa tomorrow night. The comparisons are inevitable when the two brothers meet in Atlanta. For instance, one is the leading scorer in the NHL and among the brightest stars in the game. The other? Well, he owns skates, too.

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    1. Wow, I watched most of the ranger ganes this year and I don’t remember seeing or hearing the announcers mention his name, I wonder why. What exactly does this guy do on the ice that makes him a NHL caliber player, ask Renney that question. I would sure like to know.

    2. i would scratch hossa so he can watch his brother from atlanta from the stands… maybe he’ll see how much heart and fire his brother has and starts thinking and pondering… scratch hossa, orr is out, so dress 7 d-men… if renney won’t let pöck play defense, let him at least get a shot at forward, which happens to have been his natural position.

      play pöck and dawes! aaaaaaaargggggghhhhhhh!

    3. Sam,

      I really felt that the Rangers controled the play until to the moment they weren´t able to capitalize on that double minor to Chris Gratton as the Rangers failed to make it 3-0…
      Then they simply decided to protect the lead instead of going for the third goal. Betts had a great individual effort last night but I suppose to see more of it from guys from the third and fourth lines. Jags, Straka, Nylander and Shanny won´t be able to carry them all the time.
      Now I really recognized that you guys are not very satisfied with the play of Hossa. As I have no idea what Colton Orr can add to this offensive production….

      Oh man I haven´t see such a bad defensive coverage as probably every defenseman were focussed on the left of the zone when Ruslan Salei was almost on himself in front of the goal, what a clunker, starting the comeback of the Panthers…what a heck Rachunek or was it OZO is doing on this sequence ? .And once in a while the defense don´t have the mobility on some speedy guys and I really feared that they would lose even in regulation, sometimes shots seemed to pouring down on Lundqvist and nobody was able to clear the zone especially on that third one by Bouwmeester.
      Henrik was really solid last night but once in a while he is allowing those kind of rebounds even on soft shots, but I really see him improving and I wish him a shoutout in order to regain his full confidence reaching his level of play from last season….

    4. My outlandish prediction of the year…. Marcel outscores Marian tomorrow night!!

      Any takers? Better question… is anyone a gambler? Someone give me the odds on that.

      But heyy…. for more far feched optomism…. maybe being that they’re brothers… maybe Marcel knows exactly how to shut down big brother

    5. Oh, I’m looking foward an interview outta you Sam haha… I’m sure you’ll have some interesting questions for our Hossa…. He’s a pretty funny guy from the few interviews i’ve seen from him…. should be good if you decide to go that route

    6. Doodie Machetto on

      Ozolinsh has Theo Fleury syndrome. When he wants to play, he is great. Other times, he is drunk.

      Why is everyone so set on winning the cup this year? Yes, that is the ultimate goal, but they made the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons, and all of a sudden everyone wants a cup? In case you haven’t noticed, only 6 teams have won the cup since the Rangers in 94. Flat out – this team isn’t good enough. The way it will work under the new NHL is you can have a few choices:

      1) perennially make the playoffs, but never get anywhere. I think this is where the Rangers fall. The reason you don’t get anywhere is because you get shitty draft picks form making the playoffs.

      2) Go deep in the playoffs a few years in a row, possibly win a cup or two, but then be crap for 5 years because all of your players have become too expensive to sign. Three different stages of this are going on right now: Tampa Bay (too expensive), Buffallo (deep in playoffs, cup or two), and Penguins (when Buffalo is in Tampa’s place, Pittsburgh will be in Buffalo’s)

      3) Suck every year because your whole organization sucks. Phoenix, I’m talking to you.

      Now, having not made the playoffs 7 years in a row would mean that if you were patient and didn’t try to make the playoffs every year, by the 7th year, you would have a killer squad. See Pittsburgh. But if you try and buy every player on the planet at the cost of losing all of your first round draft picks, and then squandering those you had, you’re just going to be OK, but never a contender. See the Rangers. Bottom line? I hope they make the playoffs because I like to see them win, but they just are too slow to win a cup, and it’s not something one or two players are the cause of, or would be the solution to.

    7. They should give Marcel assignment to shut down his brother, to shadow him and so on. Thant would be interesting to see.

    8. Anyone see that hit in the Detroit-Edmonton game? Sometimes even the “new” NHL has its tough moments…

    9. Marcel’s only hope of shutting down his brother is to take him out drinking before the game.

    10. Hey Doodie Machetto ,
      I don’t know if your comments were towards my post about I want to win a cup at least once in a while, that’s not asking much and I don’t espect them to win this year or any time soon. In case you havent’s check, the rangers haven’t made the playoffs in more than seven years until last year so this negates what you are saying about pittsburg, they should have gotten good draft picks and also if you haven’t checked but the devils have made the playoffs every year and have gone deep several times while winning cups and they seem to keep bringing up players from there farm systwem. Buying players has nothing to do with giving up #1 draft picks, this isn’t baseball when you sign for free agents.

    11. The bottom line here and what I’ve been saying on this blog is sather and maloney don’t have a clue when it comes to drafting, period and i don’t expect the rangers to win any cups anytime soon as long as they are the people running the show.

    12. As I haven´t seen much games of the Rangers this season yet, I just want to ask you guys how the Rangers powerplay can be most productive with Shanny stationed at the half boards or side of the net as he did on the first one passing to Nylander behind the net who set up Straka for the one timer or even himself waiting for that one timer or…

      stationed in front of net blocking the view of the goalie going for deflections, rebounds scoring a kind of garbage goals ????? I think Martin Straka would never got through without Brendan Shanahan partially blocking the view of Eddy Belfour ! Or would you prefer to have Petr Prucha in that position like he scored Sunday against the Sabres ???

    13. from Larry Brooks—

      “the Blueshirts are the only team in the NHL with four forwards – Jaromir Jagr, Brendan Shanahan, Martin Straka and Michael Nylander – getting at least 20:00 of ice per. Atlanta, Minnesota and Tampa Bay each have three. Nine teams – including imposing Buffalo, Dallas, Detroit and San Jose – don’t have even a single forward amassing that much time per game.

      And not only are Jagr (fifth in the league among forwards at 22:36), Shanahan (12th at 21:36), Martin Straka (15th at 21:29) and Michael Nylander (25th at 20:48) being asked to assume too much of the burden and too soon, there isn’t a set of young legs among them. Straka and Nylander each turned 32 within the last two months. Jagr will be 35 in February. Shanahan will turn 38 in January.

      At the same time, while the top of the lineup is being overworked, others are wasting away. Specifically, 21-year-old winger Nigel Dawes, has not only been scratched in four of the last five games, he’s averaged just 6:44 per in the eight matches he has played.”
      ———————————————-

      This really shows what a piss-poor job Renney is doing. How long will it be before Jagr and Shanny are injured from overwork? It will be like last year’s playoff, when Renney had Jagr out there on the PK when he got hurt.

      But think about it. 4 of the best teams in the league–Detroit, Dallas, Buffalo, and San Jose—don’t have a single forward playing as much as 20 min. per game. Yet, Tommy boy Renney is playing his oldest guys FAR more than ANY coach in the league.

      If that is not short-sighted, short-term desperation— leading to probable long-term problems, I don’t know what could better illustrate Renney’s malfeasance.

    14. I wasn’t really sure why they brought Hossa back this year.. he did seem to be playing with some spark at the start of the season but his production is just obviously not there, and he’s taking the place of youngsters who could be either contributing or at least getting some experience under their belts. I feel bad saying it, but it is time to cut the dead weight and get someone else in there to take Hossa’s minutes.

    15. “What exactly does this guy do on the ice that makes him a NHL caliber player, ask Renney that question. I would sure like to know.”

      ——–

      It is not what he does on the ice. It’s what he does in the darkroom, developing photos of Renney and his favorite farm animals.

      That’s a baaaaaaad joke.

    16. Inferno–right. It is only a matter of time before Jagr and Shanny go down. Those stats did not include last night’s game, in which Jagr and Shanny and Nylander all played 24 minutes each.

    17. oops, should be “I feel bad saying it, but it is time to cut the dead weight and get someone else in there to take Hossa’s minutes.”

      same goes for Betts and probably Hall

    18. Hossa vs Hossa = Manning vs Manning, on skates?

      Maybe Bettman will produce a commercial with those two fighting as they follow their dad around the mobile home that Versus uses for a studio

    19. I have to admit, I thought renney did a good job last year. This year renney is not making any sense with who he plays at all. There is no way you could convince me that dawes and pock aren’t better than, lets say, Hossa and Malik. There are a few more guys I could think of but what is the use. it is, what it is. It makes no sense.

    20. Hey Inferno, 4rangers got that post off a sports writer for the NEW YORK post. It was written and displayed yesterdays paper.

    21. Any update on Wolfpack to Brooklyn? I heard this the first time it was aired on 1050 and even exchanged email with Larry Brooks about it. Speculated about the ice rinks at Flyod Bennett Field. He came up empty. Hartford Courant beat writer said he heard the rumblings, knowing MSG contract with Hartford Civic Center ends after season. Then I heard it mentioned the second time on 1050. It just comes up and dies.

    22. If last year I was happy that Rangers are winning and expected them to actually make the playoffs and be competetive- this year even though they do win I am not at all happy. Rangers team is like sinking ship it will go down sooner or later and I have not seen Renney do anything to reverse the inevitable drowning. IMO Renney was lucky last year since he had a pretty good group of players to bail him out. This year is just a recipe for disaster.

    23. Tom G–

      I quoted from Brooks’ article, I gave him credit for it, and then I added my comments to make my point. I did not pretend otherwise.

    24. Again, last year’s success ended on Feb.11— before the Olympics. Since then, the Rangers have only won 17 of 43 games played. And what was the reason for the dropoff after the Olympics? Exhaustion of overplayed stars, which continues to be the Renney bugaboo.

    25. Hmm, if you look at Section 4 of http://www.ctcda.com/images/customer-files/HCC%20RFP%20final.pdf they only seem to specify a facility for UConn games, little mention of Wolfpack. But the place does run a nice deficit and is only used about 100 days a year.

      But the Wolfpack lease (See Attachment G pg 37) expires Aug 2007 and they have an option of extending it for six years. Not sure if they can build a new arena before then. But nice terms for the Wolfpack.

    26. Tom G: Don’t take this the wrong way, because I’m certainly no Sather apologist, but I think you’re a little overly critical on a draft record that is just starting to shake out. Sather’s only had only TWO top-10 picks since becomming GM, that being Montoya(which some might argue was a wasted pick) and Blackburn(which was by fluke consequence a wasted pick). And in seven drafts, he’s only had three picks in the top-20. In that same time, the Penguins had five picks in the top-5, and six in the top-20, with that seventh being Colby Armstrong, who was picked 21st.

      True, Slats was the moron that dealt away picks for guys like Bure(gave up a #10 pick and a second rounder). But Smith was the fool who traded away a 2000 pick (I believe a #8) to get Brendl in 1999.

      Here’s the problem with the Rangers’ drafting that lead to seven playoffless season: after 1994, there was no real rhyme or reason to the drafting, other than to find possible replacements for Leetch and Richter. Then, just as Slats started to formulate a plan for the future, the NHL rules changed, making such draft picks like Falardeau and Jessiman no more than afterthoughts in the now fast-paced game.

      Ultimately, time will tell. But with Prucha, Lundqvist, Hollweg and Tyutin showing great promise, Dom Moore and Zidlicky already established in the NHL and with what guys like Dawes, Staal, Callahan and Dubinsky have already shown, I wouldn’t be too critical at this point. That’s not even mentioning the numbers Pyatt and DuPont are putting up in juniors…

      Now, it seems as though they’re drafting players that seem to fit particular molds

    27. Dom Moore was traded prior to the season bud….and he’s way more productive than Hall, whom the Rangers got in that trade

    28. Thanks for bringing that up nakedjoe, i had made that point last week on this blog about that trade, That is another issue I have with Sather, he does not make good trades as far as i am concern. I have to admit to tdchi, I am probably over criticle of my teams. I guess you can say that I am the typical new york fan, born and raised. I’m never 100% happy even when there doing well.

    29. doodiemachetto on

      Tom G: Don’t take this the wrong way, because I’m certainly no Sather apologist, but I think you’re a little overly critical on a draft record that is just starting to shake out. Sather’s only had only TWO top-10 picks since becomming GM, that being Montoya(which some might argue was a wasted pick) and Blackburn(which was by fluke consequence a wasted pick). And in seven drafts, he’s only had three picks in the top-20. In that same time, the Penguins had five picks in the top-5, and six in the top-20, with that seventh being Colby Armstrong, who was picked 21st.

      True, Slats was the moron that dealt away picks for guys like Bure(gave up a #10 pick and a second rounder). But Smith was the fool who traded away a 2000 pick (I believe a #8) to get Brendl in 1999.

      TomG, when I read your post I was literally thinking that in response. Almost word for word. That’s why I mentioned patience in rebuilding, and not trying to buy your way into the playoffs, which is what the rangers were doing in those days, when there was no cap.

    30. I hear you doodiemachetto, time will tell. I was just listening to a pod broadcast on espn’s website and Barry Melrose was asked if he was a GM on any team what kind of trade would he make and his response said it all what the rangers are about. Melrose said he would trade any old and slow defensemen or forward and bring up younger players because the new NHL is about speed. I know it is hard to trade these players because of the cap and there salaries but if the rangers could just dump some of these dead wood defensemen or forwards I would feel alot better.

    31. doodiemachetto on

      Slats made most of his bad trades when he first showed up. Towards the end, he started making good ones, starting with Carter for Jagr. Brilliant. Ever since, the Moore trade is the only bad one he has made, while making other good trades. A couple of others that come to mind:

      Kondratiev for Sykora and a 4th rounder.

      Niemenen (indirectly) for Ozolinsh.

      Murray for what then was a very promising Marcel Hossa.

    32. doodiemachetto on

      Well, first off, there’s a reason why Barry Melrose has been in Broadcasting since being fired by the Kings. That said, it is IMPOSSIBLE to trade these guys, irrespective of their salaries. No one wants to trade young talent for slow defensemen. My idea is to waive them. Waive Kasparaitis and let him be picked up or rot in the AHL until someone gets injured. Waive Malik and maybe the Ducks will pick him up for shootout purposes. He’ll pull the Malik special every ngiht(the shootout move, not the first assist on the other team’s goal)

    33. I didn’t think the trade getting Ozolinsh was a good one and i still don’t. I don’t ubderstand why people on this blog is in love with Ozolinsh. He is another over the hill washed up slow defensemen. I wouldn’t be surprised if he and kasper end up drinking buddies. I liked Niemenen, he played chippy and could score a goal once in a while.

    34. Ozo has been washed up for years. Why is he in a Blueshirt…I dunno! Tom Renney is showing some serious patience with the group of defencemen. Either that, or he’s writing his own tombstone. As for Nigel Dawes, just break his psyche and trade him to either Pheonix or Chicago and get a lousy 3rd rounder in return.

    35. TOMG: Its not that Hossa is better than DAWES…its that DAwes is an offensive wingger and Hossa is a defensive wingger…you dont replace Hossa with a Dawes…you replace a Hossa with a lets say Flerdeou (sp) not to say they shoudl call him up, but thats just to make the point. I agree with Pock for Malik, at least give it a try, not that its guaranteed to work but it would be worth the try.

    36. Trading Murray for Hossa was dumb but made even dumber because despite the fact that he can’t make a pass, can’t take a pass, seldom hits, scores in bunches which come with the frequency of lunar eclipses, and is a total misfit in the NHL, he keeps getting ice time that prevents real potential prospects from getting on the ice. Murray is a fairly competent penalty killer and plays with a lot of grit. Didn’t they know that in Hossa’s last 44 games with the Habs he had one goal and one assist and that in the previous year had been sent to the minors by November? Too bad fans couldn’t sue Sather and Renney and require them to pay $600,000 out of their own pockets to the fans as compensation for the distress caused in having to watch this guy.

    37. Either play Pock and Dawes or send the back to Hartford, both deserve to play. Get more ice to Hollweg, Betts, and Ward/Hall, whoever is playing the wing. Trade Hossa to HC Sparta in Prague for Jan Hlavac and get him back in the Rangers Blue to play the wing. There are some answers for you.

    38. Wildcard,
      how do you know what dawes is (defensive or offensive), he hasn’t played enough to even make that statement.

    39. First of all, Sather drafted Jessiman early in the first round. It would make me violently ill to post the names of the other first rounders the Rangers could possibly have had in his place. Im fairly certain he was in fact a top ten pick. Not to mention that you don’ t use your high draft picks on goalies. In fact, Sather’s philosophy is complete idiocy. You dont draft gfuys that you think will be a project, or that you need to develop. Generally speaking, defensemen (Tyutin, Staal), goalies (Montoya, Blackburn) and power forwards (Jessiman) all take the longest to develop, and as a result, when you draft those players, if they aren’t NHL-ready, its a total crapshoot. What you try to do especially in top 10 picks is draft someone who can step right oin and help your team. Not only do the Ranges not do that, but even when they do (Brendl was thought of that way) they don’t put the guy on the ice and let him play. instead, they try to bring in old slow players, overpay for them and are then obligated to play them. With the exception of last year, which probably happened because nobody wanted to sign here, nothing has changed in Rangerland in 10 years because Sather frankly does not care at all about his team. I think he really, truly does not care how this team does.

    40. If you want to talk about Pavel Brendl, don’t forget guys like Rico Fata and Dominic Moore (who are both playing well in Pitt.). Blackburn isn’t even playing anymore, though it isn’t his fault, and when he did play he was pretty good.
      You have to take the good with the bad. Sather does pick up a lot of old players who are past their prime, but there have also been a lot of young pickups (and veteran pickups) who have played well to this point, Lundqvist, Weeks, and Prucha are the leaders of that group. Most players you draft are not going to make an immediate impact. Not everyone is Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, or Alex Ovechkin.

    41. doodie, I also disagree that any of those were good trades. Maybe the Kondratiev one was OK in retrospect now that the guys back in Russia, but Sykora is no longer here and couldn’t step up at all in the playoffs when Jagr went down. If the Rangers wanted to duplicate or build on last year’s success, they should have not traded Moore, not signed Rachunek or Roszival (lets face it Poti was better – probably a lot better – than both of these clowns), signed Witt instead, considered not signing Straka, and found a way to dump Malik. then they could have played youths with vets on defrense, had some physical presence, and incorporated Dawes, Immonen and Dubunsky into the forward lines. Maybe we would have struggled more early on, but by the end of the year we’d be on our way. Then next year add in Staal.

      Eh, never mind.

    42. I didn’t realize that rico fata was still playing in pittsburg, are you kidding me. What do you mean, “Sather does pick up a lot of old players who are past their prime, but there have also been a lot of young pickups (and veteran pickups) who have played well to this point,” I hope you don’t mean Yagr who some posters have brought up. Lets face it, at the time in the old CBA nobody wanted or could afford Yagr so stop bringing him up, please. I like to know who else are you talking about.

    43. Peter,
      You have stated the first thing that I agree with in this blog. I’m glad to see somebody has a clue.

    44. It’s Jagr, not Yagr…and not, I wasn’t talking about him. I ment more along the lines of the young guys who are producing now. Betts, Hollweg, Lundqvist, Prucha, Jason Ward, Tyutin, Hall.

      Thomas Pock and Dale Liffiton should both be in the NHL and playing right now, same with Stahl. You’re right Peter, they should have dumped Malik, look at those two assists for the other team he had the other night, just great plays don’t you think? And yes, Poti was better and he is playing well on the island right now.

      And Rico Fata was a relatively good young player. So were Kim Johnson and Jan Hlavac who they traded for Lindros, and York and Dvorak who if I rememmber correctly went to Edmonton.

    45. vinny pooh,
      “it is time to cut the dead weight and get someone else in there to take Hossa’s minutes.â€? same goes for Betts and probably Hall…

      I’d bet that you would see better offensive #’s from these 2 if they had a bit more ice time (aside from the PK) perhaps even power play time. Especially Hall, park him in front of the net where he scores all his garbage goals.
      My problem is that the 1st line’s european style requires patience with the puck. (which eates up a lot of time on the power play clock) by the time the 2nd PP line gets on the ice, there is only about 20-30 seconds left (and a fresh set of defenders waiting for them). How can they be expected to score when Jagr and co. stay out on the ice for so long? So many times I see the 1st line pass…and pass…and pass…and then lose the puck without a shot on net. Then the 2nd line steps out and produces an offensive flurry with what little time is left, but alas the 5th man comes out of the box and disrupts the play. I say Renny needs to keep the power play shifts shorter, or start the 2nd line first, follower by Jagr’s line.

    46. Ozolinsh has Theo Fleury syndrome. When he wants to play, he is great. Other times, he is drunk.
      Why is everyone so set on winning the cup this year? Yes, that is the ultimate goal, but they made the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons, and all of a sudden everyone wants a cup? In case you haven’t noticed, only 6 teams have won the cup since the Rangers in 94. Flat out – this team isn’t good enough. The way it will work under the new NHL is you can have a few choices:
      1) perennially make the playoffs, but never get anywhere. I think this is where the Rangers fall. The reason you don’t get anywhere is because you get shitty draft picks form making the playoffs.
      2) Go deep in the playoffs a few years in a row, possibly win a cup or two, but then be crap for 5 years because all of your players have become too expensive to sign. Three different stages of this are going on right now: Tampa Bay (too expensive), Buffallo (deep in playoffs, cup or two), and Penguins (when Buffalo is in Tampa’s place, Pittsburgh will be in Buffalo’s)
      3) Suck every year because your whole organization sucks. Phoenix, I’m talking to you.
      Now, having not made the playoffs 7 years in a row would mean that if you were patient and didn’t try to make the playoffs every year, by the 7th year, you would have a killer squad. See Pittsburgh. But if you try and buy every player on the planet at the cost of losing all of your first round draft picks, and then squandering those you had, you’re just going to be OK, but never a contender. See the Rangers. Bottom line? I hope they make the playoffs because I like to see them win, but they just are too slow to win a cup, and it’s not something one or two players are the cause of, or would be the solution to.

      Doodie

      This is genius stuff! You are SOOOO on the mark!

    47. Tom G. – Dawes is a straight-out offensive powerhouse. The kid is quick, slick and crafty with the puck. His drawbacks are that he’s a tiny bugger standing somthing like 5’9 and a bit stocky at a buck-ninety or so. I’m not as assured of his playmaking skils as I am of his abilty to net goals. Defensively, I think his size is a bit of a liabilty, but that’s more opinion than fact.

      P.W. I was a Fata supporter, but talk about Hossa not finishing, that was Rico’s big problem, which is why he’s not skating in the NHL right now. Washington waived him and now he’s supposedly skating in Germany. He wasn’t, however, a Sather pick. He came over from Calgary during the bleak years.

      NakedJoe: yeah, dig it on Dom Moore. What I meant was that he(and Zidlicky) were two guys drafted by Slats who panned out well in the NHL.

      Looking at Sather’s first four draft years, he managed to net eight regular NHL players(this includes Dan Blackburn, who would have been a starting goalie by now were it not for injury but excludes Nigel Dawes who hasn’t officially made it so to speak). In comparisson, Neil Smith in his last four years as GM managed to acrue four NHL players (York, Lundmark, Malhotra and Holmqvist, who is barely an NHLer).

      Also look at the draft years of 2003-2004, where eight of Slats’ 23 picks are in Hartford this season; five others are with the Checkers affiliate and five more are still in college…then there’s Jan Marek who lead the Czech league in scoring last year. ..Indeed, rebuilding takes time. And given these years alone, 18 of 23 picks still being on the immediate radar screen is a VERY GOOD sign.

      To contrast, Smith’s last draft year, 1999, only three picks of 11 ever pulled on a Wolfpack OR checkers jersey, with only one, Jamie Lundmark, ever skating a game in the bigs.

      There is something perculating in this organization. It might take a few years, but I have a feeling it will end up pretty good. After seeing the organization starve from 1995 until basically 2005, this crew is a welcome breath of fresh air, even if they don’t win the east or the cup.

    48. Sather has absolutely nothing to do with the draft, which might be a problem in a way. All he does is asks for the best player based on what the scouts thinl or just leaves it to Maloney and the gang, he is just a figurehead. Maloney puts too much emphasis on interviews, family, and “whether the guy is a Rangers fan.

      I’d bet that you would see better offensive #’s from these 2 if they had a bit more ice time (aside from the PK) perhaps even power play time. Especially Hall, park him in front of the net where he scores all his garbage goals.”

      Betts get tons of icetime under Renney, he is just a lousy player, should have kept Moore and traded Betts away instead. Hall had plenty of icetime in Nashville including PP he is not a very good player and is way overpayed at 1 mil.

      “Dawes is a straight-out offensive powerhouse. The kid is quick, slick and crafty with the puck. His drawbacks are that he’s a tiny bugger standing somthing like 5’9 and a bit stocky at a buck-ninety or so. I’m not as assured of his playmaking skils as I am of his abilty to net goals. Defensively, I think his size is a bit of a liabilty, but that’s more opinion than fact.”

      Dawes is fine defensively, he is quick and often steals the puck away or lifts a stick and he is heavy enough to bump most players off the puck.

      I would take Fata over the likes of Betts or Orr or Hossa. I don’t get why Capitals got rid of him, he was +3, had zero giveaways, 4 takeaways, 2 points in 10 games, 10 blocked shots. I guess they decided it would be better to develop a young prospect with higher upside instead. Something that Rangers will never get.

    49. That Orr-Ward-Hossa line has probably been the WORST line in the history of the NHL. All 3 of them are completely useless in every aspect of the game.

    50. Tom “That Orr-Ward-Hossa line has probably been the WORST line in the history of the NHL. All 3 of them are completely useless in every aspect of the game.” EXCEPT of course that Ward has teh only short haned gaol of the year for the Rangers, and has consistantly been one of the best PK guys on the team, Hossa the same, goes out and dosnt let the other team score or even get to many chances on the PP. SO yeah…other than that those guys are worthless. ORR I have less good things to say about, he shows flashes of being a good crash line type guy, but than he goes a long time not showing it. But lets not put Ward and Hossa into a worthless catigory, not every palyer looks flashy and gets on the scoreboard, and those two work hard, most people seem to think Hossa just skates around and dose nothing, but it always seems that his man is tied up, and he always seem to be fighting ont he boards for the puck, dosnt turn it over..granted he is missing an offensive touch, and he isnt a big hitter…but since when dose a player who jsut dose his job on the 4th line and PK a guy who is hated? Oh wait…i forgot..since Rangers fans said they wanted to give young guys a shot, and wanteed a rebuild…yeah, thats right…Hossa a young guy, not a alot of games in the NHl and during a rebuild waiting for the other young guys to force him out of the lineup..and sincec NOONE is ready to step into that role he is filling, he is a good choice…why dont people bakc off of Hossa..and Ward for that matter, he is in the same boat, works hard, get HIS job done, and noone is ther to replace him…lay off these guys…

    51. I know one thing and that is if you put a gun to Hosa’s head and pulled the goalie and asked Hosa to score he still couldn’t score and I don’t know what Dawes is because he doesn’t play. Before anybody makes a comment about Dawes do you think we could at least see him play first. I watched Hossa now for more than a year and I have seen enough.

    52. The Rangers have tons of problems, but it’s funny how amazing players get in the minds of fans when they’re no longer on the team or when they are on the bench. Fata never, ever finished and was nothing more than fast. That’s why he’s not in the NHL. Dawes MAY be great, but he’s not a guaranteed “powerhouse”. The kid could be a bust, also, for all we know now. Dvorak never amounted to much. Ditto Hlavac and Lundmark.

      Blair Betts is just not that bad.

      Marek Malik, however, is worse. But we’re stuck with him. So maybe it would be nice if someone taught him the game.

      Sad are the days when one longs for Dale Purinton…

      And, though I think he’s just awful at his job and always was, the idea that Sather doesn’t care at all about his job is silly. Of course he wants to win, that’s how he’ll make even more money than he’s got. The problem is he seems to have no idea on how to do it.

    53. True Fans bleed RW&B on

      Wildcard, great points!!! I love how everyone just wants to bash Hossa – the guy is a solid Penalty Killer and basically doesn’t let up any goals 5-on-5. He’s a -7 but isn’t on a killer offensive line so that -7 almost literally reflects being on the ice for 7 goals against for the entire year. The Rangers have scored 51 goals (5th in NHL) and allowed 54 (25th). Do we really need more goal scorers that won’t see any ice time in the last 30 minutes of play or on the Power Play? NO!!! We need solid defense and Renney to discipline guys who only show up for 50% of games…ie. Nylander. We also need renney to start sharing ice-time better, but that’s a whole different point. Someone bashed Straka earlier, one of three guys who shows up daily to play and skates his 5’9 rear off everynight, and is defensively responsible…and for everyone else, if you haven’t noticed Shanahan, despite his 12 goals and 20 points, he’s slipped to a -2 in the last 2 games. Hmmm…but we’ll still bash the same guys: Hossa, Ozo, & Rachunek.

    54. “Before anybody makes a comment about Dawes do you think we could at least see him play first.”

      Speak for yourself, most of us have been paying attention to the dwarf #10

    55. Hey Vinny Pooh,
      I’m sure I’m not the only ranger fan that has that opinion. I thought I read one of your blogs that you knock renney for not playing Dawes, now you throw a negative comment towards me about dawes and you rather not see him play. Do you have any positive thoughts or your deal is to quote people on this blog and say something negative?

    56. it wasn’t a negative comment, he is significantly shorter than everyone else so he is very easy to spot when you are watching the game. Ahd he has been fairly noticeable most of his shifts. Where did I say that I rather not see him play, what I meant was that I make GOOD comments about Dawes because I SAW how good he plays. YOU said that you haven’t made up your mind, because you have barely seen him play.

    57. Oh, I see, ok, my mistake. It’s hard sometimes to read a coment and understand what the person means.

    58. The reason why I made that comment was because another blogger made a statement that dawes is a offensive player and not a defensive player so what I meant was that I don’t think you can say that yet only becay=use he hasn’t really played enough NHL games to say he isn’t a defensive player. He’s got great speed to play both ends of the ice.

    59. give me a friggin’ break True Fans RW&B. Shanny will go straight to the Hall of Fame.

      Hossa, Bozo, and Raccoon-neck will drift into ignominious oblivion.

    60. True Fans bleed RW&B on

      Maybe I can excuse some Rangers fans for being so naive, (like 4rangers)…but hockey’s a team sport. A career of great hockey from Shanahan will not get this Rangers team into the playoffs and not everyone on a winning hockey team makes the hall of fame or all-star game, for that matter. You need role players. Esa Tikannen, Adam Graves, and many others will never make it but you should know their importance to the Rangers organization…or maybe assuming that still gives you too much credit.

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