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Granted, maybe it’s because the Wolf Pack are off to a discouraging start at 1-6, but I wouldn’t exactly describe the atmosphere here at the Civic Center as electric.

Or put it another way: if Darius Kasparaitis wasn’t depressed when he was first sent down to the AHL, he probably is now.

Speaking of which, I had a chance to talk to Kaspar in the empty Civic Center prior to tonight’s game, and it’s clear how much the demotion has stung him — even if it might be a better fate than being put on waivers.

“It’s a very painful thing in my career playing with New York and being sent down to the minors,� Kasparaitis said. “There’s nothing I can do but play good and get back with the Rangers, or play good and maybe be somewhere else.�

Indeed, you get the sense that Kasparaitis isn’t entirely convinced that he’ll be back with the Rangers, or for that matter, that he felt he got a fair shake when he was there. When I asked him about his conversation with Tom Renney, in which the coach told him he wanted to see him back in New York, Kasparaitis shrugged.

“That’s what he told me, but anything can happen,â€? Kasparaitis said. “I was sent down to the minors after playing only a couple of games in the NHL….All I need is to play and have the coach’s support. Sometimes you need somebody to support you and tell you we’re here, we care about you, we want you to be good.â€?

Meanwhile, for those keeping score at home, the Wolf Pack are at 2-2 with Portland early in the second. I’ll have more on them later….

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  1. Kaspars a good guy, but hes gotta be realistic. His play just wasnt any good while with the big club.

  2. Kasparaitis is confirming that Renney is a bad coach that lacks proper communication, a liar, a backstabber, and a hyena.

  3. vinny…what planet are you watching the rangers from?? Kasper is upset…but his attitude is all wrong…he KNOWS the rangers have a glutt of defenders….its a conditioning stint…unless waived he HAS to go back to the rangers after 10 games

  4. Kaspar being sent down is the best thing for him. It’s clear his confidence is really rattled. Has been since the surgeries. I think we all agree his play has not been very effective this year. But what he doesn’t realize is that being sent down most likely means he won’t be traded. At worst, he goes through waivers and is picked up by another squad. Probably though, he’ll pass through waivers without that happening.

    I really like Kaspar… but if he remains this negative, his career in NY will be over.

    The other thing that’s clear is that the Rangers players have lost their faith in Renney. I believe it’s because he has not created a clear indication of what is expected from his players and/or he has inadvertantly created one too many double standards. Just think if we at home find many of Renney’s moves to be irrational, i can’t imagine what its like to be a player on the team.

  5. “But what he doesn’t realize is that being sent down most likely means he won’t be traded. At worst, he goes through waivers and is picked up by another squad. Probably though, he’ll pass through waivers without that happening.”

    if you look at his quotes, it sounds like part of him wants to be traded.

    “There’s nothing I can do but play good and get back with the Rangers, or play good and maybe be somewhere else.�

  6. “The other thing that’s clear is that the Rangers players have lost their faith in Renney. I believe it’s because he has not created a clear indication of what is expected from his players and/or he has inadvertantly created one too many double standards. Just think if we at home find many of Renney’s moves to be irrational, i can’t imagine what its like to be a player on the team.”

    I agree with that paragraph.

  7. Renney may have lost his players’ faith and never had true control of the reins, but I’m going to be sick if he gets canned and I have to see ole Glen back behind the bench, jonesing for a cigar and trying to pretend he wasn’t the luckiest man in the history of hockey.

  8. I want Renney to be promoted to another position, i still think he is valuable to the organization, but i think Jim Schoenfeld should be the Coach.

  9. If you look at the 3rd and 4th line combos the rangers have iced every game this season – they are built in a highly limiting and non-specific fashion. Tonight is another prime example of mismatched lines…

    3rd line Hollweg, Betts, Hall… (not bad)
    4th line Orr, Ward, Dawes… — SERIOUSLY? If you’re gonna do that just send Dawes to the minors. What a ridiculously bizarre line combo. Something has got to give. That line makes no sense at all!!!!

    FYI… just for argument sake, if that Moore-Hall trade never happens, these would be the lines tonight.

    3rd line: Ward, Betts, Hossa
    4th line: Hollweg, Moore, Orr…

    Okay, still not perfect as Hossa is not the best and Orr would be a place holder for ortmeyer and no Dawes, but at least those lines would make a little more sense. The purpose of these lines would actually be clear and the players would be a little more suited to those roles.

  10. Kaspar should be traded/waived as his salary is a hindrance and his play indicates he is nearing the end of his career. Sure he’s a good guy and he brings a physical element (when he feels like it) — but honestly don’t let the love for a player cloud your judgement.

  11. I don’t understand why Rozsival and Malik are never held responsible for their pathetic play?

  12. “4th line Orr, Ward, Dawes…—- SERIOUSLY? If you’re gonna do that just send Dawes to the minors. What a ridiculously bizarre line combo. Something has got to give. That line makes no sense at all!!!”

    Trust me Dawes has a lot more chance to score on that line than if Betts was his center.

    But if Coach Hyena had any brains he would make lines like this:

    3rd: Dawes-Ward-Hall
    4th: Hollweg-Betts-Orr

  13. “They have pictures of renney. Im convinced of it”

    I have a different theory:

    Renney judges his players by looking at stats–Rozsival and Malik are not minus so that means they are not a problem. WRONG douchebag!!!

  14. “But if Coach Hyena had any brains he would make lines like this:

    3rd: Dawes-Ward-Hall
    4th: Hollweg-Betts-Orr”

    But God forbid his boy Blair (offensive impotent) Betts gets demoted to 4th line. And God forbid we ever have 3 lines that can score.

  15. “don’t understand why Rozsival and Malik are never held responsible for their pathetic play”

    because they are members of Jagr’s czech posse, that’s why. Jagr tells Renney what to do, not vice versa.

  16. Did you just hear the pregame comments? Genone(sp) said that Ward-Tyutin pair proved to be the best pair for the Rangers, yet guess who is out top pairing? That is right, Giraffe and Chimp, I can hear Hyena laughing.

  17. So there is a report out of NY that the Wolfpack will be moved to Brooklyn? Sounds good to me! I’m sure the NYC area will be able to bring more than the pathetic approx. 2500 that showed up last night at the Hartford Civic Centre vs. Portland. The Brooklyn Wolfpack… sounds good to me :)

    Hey, if it works for the Flyers (AHL Philly Phantoms) and Toronto (AHL Toronto Marlies), then I’m sure it could work in NYC. Although, I did attend the Marlies season opener and about 3000-3500 showed up at the Ricoh… disappointing to be honest…

    GO NY Rangers… GO Brooklyn Wolfpack!

  18. I think it is disgraceful what the Rangers Organization is doing to Kasparaitis. Renney is showing no support to him. He should be with a Coach and a team who supports and respects him.

  19. “The pathetic approx. 2500 that showed up last night at the Hartford Civic Centre vs. Portland”

    It was a Wednesday night game– not good for the minors. The average attendance around the league that night was 2818.

    Sure, the Wolf Pack aren’t exactly burning up the league, attendance-wise, but you’re missing part of the picture.

  20. Michael O'Neil on

    Wednesday attendances around the league have notoriously been low because it is tough to get out during the weekdays to games. Weekends for most teams are when the bigger crowds show up and the atmosphere is more exciting. It is stupid of the AHL to have weekday games, especially when they see how low attendances are. Attendances will pick up for the Pack the rest of the season. The Pack rank right in the middle of the AHL for attendance anyways. Whaler fans make the biggest fuss over small crowds because they are bitter, when in fact they could greatly help improve attendance. I am not saying all whaler fans because a bunch of them do show up and support the Wolf Pack, but I am talking about the disrespectful, annoying, worthless group of whaler fans involved in the HWBC!

    Attendances would be better if whaler fans would get off their high horses and come to games and actually show the NHL that the love for hockey is still here. They are one of the reasons why wolf pack crowds have suffered in recent years.

    The Wolf Pack are not moving to Brooklyn or anywhere. MSG is set to make an announcement soon that they and the Wolf Pack will be here until 2013 when their contract runs out. Yes, they did renew their contract and it will be made public soon.

  21. Michael O'Neil on

    A new arena is to be built in Hartford but it will be for the Hartford Wolf Pack. Also remodeling will be continued on the Hartford Civic Center. They plan on losing the smoking section and blowing out the concourses further back to enable for more room. Also Hard Rock Cafe will join the Pack shop in the HCC. Check back as more information becomes available pertaining to these items mentioned above. This and the information in the previous post can be viewed on the Rangers bulletin board.

    Thanks, thats all for now.

  22. I just think the people of Hartford don’t really like the Rangers much. Perhaps the team SHOULD be moved into Rangers terroritory! Brooklyn sounds great! :)

  23. Michael O'Neil on

    Whaler fans need to get over it and deal with the Pack being here. They are NOT going anywhere. The Pack and MSG is here in Hartford for the long haul so deal with it you bunch of whaler whiners.

  24. Michael O'Neil on

    Shooting Down the Rumors
    For those who heard a radio report that the Rangers will announce on Thursday that the Hartofrd Wolf Pack will be moving to Brooklyn’s Floyd Bennett Field, here’s a dose of reality.

    There’s no 10,000-seat AHL-sized arena at the complex and THE LEASE IN HARTFORD RUNS THROUGH 2013—-although it can be broken with sufficient notice.

    What’s going on is that MSG has entered a partnership with Aviator Sports and Recreation, which operates the multii-sport complex that has two rinks (one of which can seat about 2,000) and basketball courts, a gymnastics and fitness center and rock-climbing walls in four refurbished hangars. Three people familiar with the issue told me on Monday that the WOLF PACK WON’T BE MOVING THERE.

    It’s certainly a facility where MSG could stage some Knicks, Liberty and Rangers workouts or clinics and practices—especially to take a poke at the Nets, who are pronouncing that they will own Brooklyn when and if the Bruce Ratner downtown project is built.

    More accurate news—on Rangers practice—coming up soon…

  25. Mike O’Neil doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Nothing is being built for the Wolf Pack. People here hate the Rangers and the Wolf Pack, hence the 2500. Last year they retired Ron Francis, Kevin Dineen, and Ulf Samuelsson’s numbers and it drew 13k, basically for a team that doesn’t exist anymore. Looks like Mike needs to get over the fact that no one likes the Wolf Pack and he needs to pack his gear for trips to Brooklyn…

  26. Michael O’Niel:

    Please, the wolf*pack needs to go to Brooklyn! Hartford is a MAJOR LEAGUE CITY. Do you think if the Yankees left for Orlando and the Mets (or god forbid, the Red Sox) put an International League team, you’d see fans at Yankee Stadium? No, you would NOT.
    Michael – Whalers fans hates the Rangers — we always did and always will. We don’t need a farm team for the CRAPPY RANGERS – and MSG did VIOLATE their CONTRACT with the state of Connecticut – they were supposed to play at least one exhibition game at HCC, they never did. San Jaun is NOT the HCC!
    Michael, the MSG will be out at the HCC (when the new ARENA for the new NHL Whalers gets built!). MSG take the Wolf*Pack and stick it where the sun don’t shine!

    The Spout

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